How to stay awake during night feeds part 6 - all welcome to join us!

[funchum8am]

Hi everyone, cannot believe we have exchanged over 5000 messages!

mrsn when we shared our locations on here a while back, heff, goat and I all turned out to live near Uxbridge so we met up having met on here. It is lovely, if you are ever down south let us know!

macaroons sounds like we are in the same boat I officially return to work on 15 Feb but that is actually the Friday before half term so only have that day and then another week off before full time return hits. I am lucky that DH is being a SAHD til 1st July so no drop offs, pick ups or worries about the childminder ringing me because babyfunch is ill etc, and she is in great hands with him, much as I have been critical of him til we talked it over recently. However I am worried about being at work on no sleep - I will get in a lot of trouble if I lose my rag with a pupil or indeed a member of my team (one of whom is a pain). I will have to perfect the art of letting some things go (eg uniform issues in the corridor as opposed to in my lessons - I spend a lot of time arguing with pupils about these and intend to stop save for the very worst!) and dealing with others by just reporting bad behaviour to heads of year rather than dealing with it myself. I am head of faculty so will focus just on what happens in lessons in my faculty rather than working quite so hard on having the best corridor behaviour in the school in my area - it is great having that but takes a lot of time, energy and conflict so it will just have to go n the back burner until I am getting proper sleep again. At this rate dd will be in year 7 by then herself and can help me!

Oh susie I would be the same. I don't think there is an easy solution for you but on the bright side I don't think that many teenagers are still breasted.

small that sounds dreadful - especially the pigs trotters for tea I hope you got your wine and that bedtime goes ok.

I had a frustrating trip to the doctors yesterday about baby chilli's possible allergy. He was very dismissive and just sent me off to try another brand of formula which I would have been happy to do if he'd had a mild reaction previously, but the reaction was quite bad so I'm reluctant to risk it. I'm going to make an appointment with another doctor and push for a referral.
We had a lovely time at baby massage this afternoon though and baby chilli was so excited to be around so many other babies he was almost hyperactive! It was quite funny to watch him trying to have a conversation with everyone.

He's in bed and been there for 50 mins which is a minor miracle for us - I also gave him calpol and teething gel as he's showing all the signs and I can't understand how one small baby can make so much dribble! I'm knackered so will be crawling into bed shortly myself, sending best sleepy wishes to all babies tonight.

Oh dear small :( we also have days like that - so frustrating! Baby bee won't nap longer than 45 mins in cot but I'm happy with that as its huge progress from last week!

I had a terrible morning was dry retching with nausea then just a hysterical mess! Drove to baby massage and then couldn't get out the car for crying. Had a friend over this pm which helped.
X

amey I'm so sorry you're feeling so low, we're you able to talk to your friend about it? More hugs coming your way xx

small that does sound like a difficult day and a glass or two of much deserved. Pigs trotters and ice cream...yum

funch how did today go?

Took babylump swimming this afternoon for the first time which she really enjoyed, we went at 5ish so it was nice and quiet and we could just bob about without risk of being run over by herds of older children. Might see if DH can meet us at the pool after work next week so both girls can swim as dd1 loves swimming but ive not been able to take the both of them on my own.

I hope whoever said about swimming tiring the babies out was right, I'm praying for a better night tonight!

Heff xx

Thinking of you amey - hope you are getting lots of TLC at home!

small hugs for you too!

heff glad you had fun swimming - I can't wait to take little man.

Attempting bed time here - not happening so far!

Lots of positive thoughts being sent your way amey.
Baby larle has got colic, he has hardly napped all day and is totally exhausted but wakes up after only a few mins asleep screaming. Think it'll be a night in the chair for me as he'll only sleep sitting up

Oooo heff well done swimming! Hope it tires little heff out, I definitely need to get baby loup in the pool (and do a few lengths myself!)

Sorry to hear you're down amey second what others have said, maybe we can help? I have complete melt downs from time to time, I'm sure we all do....

Sorry to hear the gp was dismissive chilli hope you can get a second opinion.

We had slight progress last night but that was in part because I brought loup into bed with me at 145 and half slept during her feeding as just couldn't stay awake. Has decided not to dream feed tonight and see how baby loup does. She's been down since 715, not a peep so far......

Hope baby loo is feeling better susie sorry to hear about him crying to be BF, it must be so hard. I have lots of feelings of guilt switching loup to formula but she actually doesn't seem that bothered

Right what the betting DD wakes up just as I nod off.....?! Sleepy dust to all x

amey hugs coming your way, you are doing great if you are managing to get out to things like baby massage. We are here if you need us.

small hugs to you too, that sounds rotten. I hope the vino helped.

susie my sympathies, I can't offer any useful advice but I bet there have been threads about this on MN before, which might give some ideas (i suppose you have already tried that though, sorry not helpful.)

heff swimming sounds fun, we are planning on starting classes but could go for a bob about before that actually.

The hospital meeting was great, surprisingly! The head of midwifery was very keen to hear my feedback and the two midwives who I thought were shocking are going to have to give statements and be interviewed and given guidance etc etc. One thing I found out is that there was no reason I should not have been given gas & air during induction - they don't want to give it out at the first moment in case you have a long latent phase and need it to still work later on (it stops working after a bit apparently) but she could have given me it instead of lying and saying it wasn't available on the antenatal ward! They apologised for all the policies that were ignored and have stated clearly what they will do about each of 7 points I raised. One big one is that they will do an audit of how long it takes women to go into labour with propess, with a view to letting people go home with it if the average is long enough, and also to audit how many ask for G&A and if it is the vast majority, and the average time it takes for induction to lead to labour isn't too long, they will make G&A available to all who request it, rather than letting individual midwives decide. Plus they let me have s rant about postnatal care too, and came up with good suggestions for improvements there too. All in all I am delighted to have got it all off my chest and to feel something good may come of it all. Phew.

In other news, we have moved babyfunch's bedtime to 10pm from 7. I hope that in a few days this will lead to her long stretch of sleep being 10-3:30 rather than 7-12:30! Fingers crossed.

and chilli good luck with the second opinion, it makes me rage when medical people are dismissive like that! I feel for you.

funchum - glad your hospital meeting was great! No G&A for induction?? That's horrible! good that you've given them feedback so they can try and improve.

small - sorry for your not so good day, hope things are getting better!

amey - big hugs

darkside - I've always been tempted to take baby mac to go swimming! Did you take any class or do you just go with your instinct? (I know a friend of mine goes to classes, but I'm not that organised therefore it hasn't happened yet)

not sure if sleep training is working like it should, last night he slept 7-12, 1-6, 7.30-9.30. not bad actually but I'd be even happier if he slept 1-8 without getting up at 6! we had some work going on in the house today, so baby mac couldnt nap in his own cot, and had to nap in his pram instead. not sure if that's why he didn't nap much today, only napped twice and each time for less than 40 minutes (i always thought 40 mins is the length of cycle therefore surprised that he woke up before then...) lets see how tonight goes. i'm very tempted to wake him up now (11.15) instead of waiting for him to wake up naturally... as my breast feels very hard, can feel that something is blocked and urgently needs his help!! right... think I'll slowly wake him up...

good night all, sleepy dust to all babies!!

chili - and sorry that your doctor trip wasn't eventful. it's worrying if you see allergies but doctor refuses to act on it! hope the other one you see will refer you!

Hi my lil boy is 14 week now hated his Moses basket and am trying my hardest to get him sleep in his cot at night...its tough tho any suggestions that u have done that worked please :-)

amey that sounds awful, another hug coming your way

fun glad you feel like the hospital listened to you

Sorry not to name check everyone so hope all are okay.
I am sat downstairs while dp gives babyloo a bottle-so far he seems to be taking some of it so hopefully we are making progress, I have posted a thread asking for advice and hoping for some more responses tomorrow - probably need to accept it will take time hence why they call it weaning I suppose!!

Hello all. Sorry to hear some of you are having such a hard time.

Amey - hope things improve soon.

Love the pigs trotters dinner proposal.

Funch - sorry to hear your induction was so awful.

My day was not unreasonable, but this evening we had a visitor and DD appeared to want to stay awake to such an extent that she insisted on BFing continuously for 2 hours. Unsurprisingly she drank too much and when I finally said "enough" she vomited large amounts of milk not only from her mouth, but from her nose. Twice. It was very alarming! I'm now going to insist on half hour each side with a break in between. Poor bubs. She seems much more cautious at tonight's feed...

Result! DS settled himself in 10 minutes after being put in his cot sleepy but awake.

Hope this will continue!

Good night all.

Have had transfer fail and Ewan not doing the job either. Back i the boob. Come on baby, fall asleep.

First feed here so new bedtime being 3 hours later has led to first waking being 1 hour later. I suppose I should be,grateful it has has any impact at all so soon. Soooo tired though

yay for baby Mac self soothing! Long may it continue

Same problem here muffin.
Baby larle has slept for about 3 hours altogether since 11.30, the rest of the time he has spent on my boobs. Slowly losing the will, nipples now getting sore so having to swap boobs every 15mins. Is some sleep too much to ask for?

Oh and I mean 11.30 am!

I'm despairing of these night feeds, we are getting no long stretches at all. He had 7oz at 11 and was up at 1 again. Can't work out if its really hunger or just waking for some other reason (although he's not a baby who would feed when not hungry) annoys me that in the day he goes 5 hours sometimes but not at night :(.

Thank you for all the hugs & support. Really hoping things improve soon.

On the plus side my brother got the all clear today so that is a weight of our minds! Poor love still can't walk on his foot but is so relieved! X

funch I was induced and had gas and air at 2cm as my contractions were 30 sec apart and I had an unbearable urge to push. I'm horrified you were denied it - how on earth did you cope you poor thing?

amey glad your brother got some good news and I hope you are getting some RL support as well.

Baby chilli woke at 10.45 and I was so deeply asleep I had to fight to wake up. He then refused to settle and at one point I had to stick my head out the window to try and keep my eyes open! At 12.15 I gave up and had him in my bed and he's just woken now for his next feed. Fingers crossed he goes back in his cot this time.

I hope you are all nicely asleep

Too tired too read or post

First feed here - not too bad after going down just after 10.

amey that is such fantastic news about your brother - Yey hope you feel a bit better.

funch really glad it went well!

susie sending sympathies - I hope you manage to get things sorted soon.

Hi to everybody else! Hope there are some good nights!

No such luck - in bed with me again...

Second feed, finally had 3 hours sleep and feel so much better for it!

Good morning ladies.

Can I join in please? I have 2 week old twin boys and although I'm sure this might not count as an official night feed I did start feeding them at 5:30! My boys were born at 35+1 and we had a 10 day stay in hosp with jaundice issues and getting feeding established, but we're home now and it's all go. I also have a 16 month old daughter, who is v gentle with them but crying a lot at the moment which is unlike her.

I am struggling to stay awake during night feeds, the noise of their breathing and swallowing in stereo is enough to send even the most hardened insomniac to sleep!

DP and I give them a bottle if expressed milk at around 1ish then I do the rest of the feeds. Struggling with latch issues with the one twin but it's getting better.

I suppose I'll be seeing most of you tonight.