How to stay awake during night feeds part 6 - all welcome to join us!

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Hi everyone, cannot believe we have exchanged over 5000 messages!

mrsn when we shared our locations on here a while back, heff, goat and I all turned out to live near Uxbridge so we met up having met on here. It is lovely, if you are ever down south let us know!

macaroons sounds like we are in the same boat I officially return to work on 15 Feb but that is actually the Friday before half term so only have that day and then another week off before full time return hits. I am lucky that DH is being a SAHD til 1st July so no drop offs, pick ups or worries about the childminder ringing me because babyfunch is ill etc, and she is in great hands with him, much as I have been critical of him til we talked it over recently. However I am worried about being at work on no sleep - I will get in a lot of trouble if I lose my rag with a pupil or indeed a member of my team (one of whom is a pain). I will have to perfect the art of letting some things go (eg uniform issues in the corridor as opposed to in my lessons - I spend a lot of time arguing with pupils about these and intend to stop save for the very worst!) and dealing with others by just reporting bad behaviour to heads of year rather than dealing with it myself. I am head of faculty so will focus just on what happens in lessons in my faculty rather than working quite so hard on having the best corridor behaviour in the school in my area - it is great having that but takes a lot of time, energy and conflict so it will just have to go n the back burner until I am getting proper sleep again. At this rate dd will be in year 7 by then herself and can help me!

ok last transfer went ok but up again at 4:30 so have given more calpol but she seems wide awake now .

susie I use old skool sugary calpol too, it is a key happy memory from my own childhood and I want babyfunch to have the same. I got it in Boots.

Third feed here so got 3 hours sleep in one go which feels like a luxury these days!

funch poor both of you. Teething really is no fun at all. Hope you both finally get some sleep.

larle I found bf without a cushion quite difficult for the first couple of months until babybrain was big enough to be more on ny lap. Now that he's reliably latching on and rests across my knees it's much easier except that now he gets distracted by anything and everything even when I cover his head

Welcome chocolate How old is your ds? Hope the spurt doesn't go on too long!

Not a bad night really although he woke quite a lot he would settle with his projector and a muslin to play with.

I am very excited about sugary calpol!! Is it the actual calpol brand or boots own? I am in town tomorrow so will go and purchase some-I hate giving him medicine at the moment because I have to pry his mouth open!!

Goodness, such a lot of activity here! Unfortunately it is quite hard to keep up now that Kid is in his own cot, as I feed sitting in a chair, and since he is on bottles, I don't have a hand free for phone or iPad... And am trying to make my slightly insomniac self go straight back to sleep afterwards, rather than MNing and keeping myself awake.
Thank you for all the half birthday wishes! I wish I could say that Kid has magically learned to sleep through the night having reached this auspicious milestone, but you'd all know I was fibbing through my teeth, so I won't bother! Last night was not too bad though. There seem to have been some pretty dire nights out there - I really hope you get some catchup sleep! Also hoping that babyloo is feeling much better today.
Hello to all the new faces...
I have homemade Brazil nut banana bread if anyone wants a slice. From the freezer. Made in the days when Kid reliably had a long nap and didn't need constant entertainment when awake!
mrsn hope your teeth are feeling better, glad the counselling helped. Sounds like you like the counsellor, which is a big help!
amey wishing you a brain that gives you a break and lets you remember what a good mum you are (I empathise here!)
funch Kid says to tell Sophie that sleep gives her the energy she needs to learn to crawl and go to the next level of running your parents ragged... So much fun to be had!

First morning feed here, I'm already showered and breakfasted as it's Weight Watchers this morning! I'm so proud that I managed to stick to points yesterday because I so wanted to binge - I hope it shows on the scales!!

Little man woke me up twice after his first feed crying in his sleep! Has anyone had that before? I just put Ewan on and he settled, but I've noticed he's been quite wingey recently too.

Sorry for the bad nights! Pesky babies

Hi goat - we miss you!

susie have you tried getting a small syringe (you can get 0.5ml ones) much easier to get medicine in that way - good luck!

funch I'm not sure it's baby Loups teeth waking her as he just whinges rather than howls in pain, and 10 mins on the boob sends her off again.... Although realise that quick fix isn't helping me long term...... Maybe I'll try a teething sachet in case... Hope he calpol helped babyfunch in the end

Sorry not to name check others, baby loup back down for morning nap and must do days worth of chores in 45 minutes! Hope babies are good today

Loup I think the teething has been just the last three nights as that is when she started waking even before 1am. Before I think it was wind and failure to self settle when coming into lighter phases of sleep. They haven't stopped, teething has just been added to the mix . DH took her at 5 and gave up on sitting in a dark room and got up at 5:30. She is fine when they go downstairs but I fear we are making her a really early riser like DH. He can deal with the consequences of that, I am not becoming a 5am riser like him!!

Off to hospital tomorrow to meet with the managers to discuss my complaint about the way I was treated on the antenatal ward when I was induced. I have a lovely lady coming to support me (patient advocate type person, who has been through the complaints process herself after a traumatic birth) and I can't wait to get it off my chest and hopefully enable them to sack the two horrible midwives who were rude and lazy improve their services.

Hello goat nice to hear from you and yes yes to the brazil nut banana bread.

How are you feeling amey?

Good luck at weight watchers mrsn

Welcome chocolate

Thank you loup re syringe, we do have one somewhere and it might be easier to get it in the corner of his mouth and squirt it in rather than using a spoon.

So sorry you had such awful antenatal care funch and I hope the hospital take it on board tomorrow. Hopefully it will make you feel better to get it of your chest.

I am sat at the train station feeling very sorry for myself because I hate leaving him, I've been okay before so not sure if its because he has been poorly that I have seperation anxiety. Babyloo will be fine with my mum and dad and they are taking him to a big local farm to pick up some pheasants from my dads friend so my mum will love showing him off, I just want to go home but I'm doing a home visit with my colleague who has been covering my case for me and its really important I'm on the ball so I need to give myself a kick up the arse and snap out of it!!!

Hello to everyone and hope all are having good days.

I lost a pound - happy with that

Good luck susie - I really understand how you feel, it's horrible but I'm sure once you are in work mode it will help take your mind off things!

funch I hope things go well for you tomorrow!

Welcome chocolate

Well done mrsn!

Hope all goes ok funch.

Susie, unfortunately feeling really rubbish, is definitely PND. Remember the feeling of being in a black hole pretty well. Even though I got through it last time I feel totally terrified of never feeling normal again. Can't help feeling like I've let my children and DH down again but at least I'm on treatment, just hope it works! X

Lots of hugs amey

susie hope your day went well and you got home to a reasonably happy baby

Well done mrsn and welcome chocolate!

funchum - what i found with midwives is that they vary even within the ward. I've met some good ones but there were some that just ignored me. it's good to give them some feedback!

smallgreenone - I just place baby mac sleepy but awake on his cot, and let him settle himself to sleep. i go and check on him every now and then, sshh-ing and patting, but didnt pick him up and wouldn't nurse him to sleep like i used to do. yesterday morning he cried on and off for maybe an hour before falling asleep, just now he just fell asleep within 3 minutes... he did sleep quite well after he eventually fall asleep, last night he slept 7-12, then 2-6. although he did cry, and it's not easy watching him cry and not pick him up, you have to tell yourself that you're doing it to teach him how to self soothe so he can sleep for longer which is beneficial to him. to be honest he doesn't seem that distressed when he got up, he didnt know he had been crying and he's smiling and kicking about. Friends told me it's easier to do it sooner rather than later, so I bit the bullet and went ahead. I'm hoping that after a few days he'll get used to self settling and wouldnt rely on us rocking / nursing him.

here's more on sleep training from MN www.mumsnet.com/babies/sleep-training-and-controlled-crying

I know controlled crying is not for everyone, there are also some no tear methods. www.babycenter.com/0_baby-sleep-training-no-tears-methods_1497581.bc

hope tonight will go well for everyone. I'm down with a cold, going to have a shower and hit the bed early to try to catch some sleep before the late feed!

and big hugs amey. hope it'll go away soon! have a cup of or when you can to treat yourself every once in a while may help!

Thanks macaroons, I know it's not for everyone and I hate hearing him cry. Sounds like its working though. I might give it a go in the hope it solves our nap time problems, will it?

macaroons I am with your approach. If I was off work for longer I might do things differently, but babyfunch will be happier long term if she can self soothe and sleep for longer than an hour so ssh pat and s bit of cc is going to have to be the way I choose. also agree it is better to do what you can sooner rather than later to some extent - I wouldn't leave her to really cry but a few minutes of grizzling tends to precede her best sleep these days so I have come to cope with it.

Small - the baby whisperer method is working for us with very little crying. Book is called baby whisperer solves all your problems. He seems to have got the jist of - cot, dummy, laid on side and pat his back = sleep. If I catch him at right time it works. I can't deal with crying at all & I've managed it, he doesn't cry now at all. X

Hoping it's bed time here - he woke up when I brought him upstairs so it's probably wishful thinking and there will be some transfer fails to come!

Hope you are feeling a bit better now amey

More snow today, I'm hoping it doesn't get worse over night as I want to get little man weighed tomorrow.

Oh amey massive hugs, hope you're feeling ok today.

How was kit day susie ?

funch good luck tomorrow, hope you get a good outcome.

mrsn well done on ww. I've joined a local informal slimming group, just one where we get together for a weigh in once a week, 50p a session but double if you've put on weight since the previous week. We had our first one last week so crossing fingers I've at least dropped a lb or two by Thursday this week.

On that note goat your banana loaf sounds amazing...now I want cake! Must resist... :)

Just waiting for everyone to clear out of the living room then I'm going to bed. Have decided on the two nights a week where I do t have to get up for dd1 in the morning (DH takes her to CM's) I'm just going to give in and sleep on the sofa as babylump has been much better during this sleep regression (assuming that's what it is) if she's not moved from downstairs to her crib upstairs. Might as well go with the flow, anything for better sleep!

Night all xx

Wishing everyone a good night, we're feeding wide awake but hoping the fresh air and snow tires baby loup out. I will no doubt see some of you before dawn

Thanks for the link, girls I have no idea what's happened. My threads I'm on has registered I am on a thread but no link to it , then, when I go to the Breast and Bottle feeding topic, I can't find it there either, if I am logged in - very disconcerting!

Better night Sunday, not so great last night but not horrendous. Have done first feed already but hoping for good sleeps tonight. DH has been at a charity comedy thing tonight. I was supposed to go too, but Missmarbles has been too much of a nightmare to leave with a sitter DD1 is such an angel for sitters too. I do wish my parents were around as I'm sure I would have gone if I'd been able to leave the girls with them.

Well done on WW, MrsN. I have fallen off the diet wagon over the weekend but will get back on tomorrow

mmmm banana and brazil nut loaf!! Ya see! Therein lies my dietary problems

Hope it's been ok today, Susie, and that Babyloo is feeling better.

Amey. You can, and will, beat the PND. You haven't let anyone down and I am sure your DH and children don't think so either.

Hope I don't lose you all again. I still haven't found you on my phone; this will be a nightmare tonight, if the thread doesn't show up

Hi all I'm nt too happy was wide awake till around 4 baby growth spurt he hasn't been on as often today so think that's end of it! But iv been trying to get to sleep as my little one is dreaming away and I just can't!! Grrrrr

A quick report on how "putting baby down while sleepy but awake" is working. Baby mac slept at 6.30 and woke up at 12. After late feed tried to put him down when he's shown sign of tiredness at around 1, sang twinjle twinkle little star a couple of time to tell him its time to sleep,and he's now asleep at 1.15. He didn't really cry today, just made some sound. Hope this method will work and he will soon be able to settle himself!

Good night everyone!

Well done mrsn, think I might have to join ww to stop me eating biscuits! It's my cousins wedding in April and I am doing a reading so would like to get some baby weight off for then!
First feed here, little earlier than normal but tbh we haven't tried getting into a routine yet, now I need to decide if I can be bothered with the transfer fails of getting him back in his Moses basket or just let him sleep with us!
amey I haven't had pnd but have suffered from depression, it horrid And I really feel for you but you can get through it. Having somewhere like this to vent will help and I'm sure everyone else will agree that We're all here for you xx

Transfer fail, why do I bother? He was in his basket for seconds!