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How to stay awake during night feeds - part 5

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MrsNPattz · 03/12/2012 21:19

Here we are Grin

goat thanks, I could but am worried about putting the car seat in!

We are putting the Moses basket in the big cot tonight to start getting him used to it as he will be too big for the basket soon!!

Bed time not going well so far.......

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Susieloo · 19/12/2012 18:09

Evening all, last feed (hopefully) before bed, babyloo had some banana today which he loved but it seemed to disagree with him so my poor mum and dad had a screaming baby for an hour because I was at work, they then reminded me that bananas make my mum sick and give my dad indigestion!!

We have had our usual hour and a half nap through the day so I'm hoping he is knackered enough to stay asleep for a while, me and dp are having a glass of wine together which I'm really looking forward to.

Not a bad night last night but up for an hour between 3-4 with a very unusual poonami-must be the weaning!!

Re birth story mine is a little odd in that I'm tokophobic (fear of childbirth) and have been since I was about 15, as soon as I found out I was pregnant which was a happy accident I asked to see a consultant to agree a c section-it was the only option for me and thankfully my gp had noted my phobia a couple of times on my medical records going back a few years. The nhs were very good although they did keep me waiting until 36 weeks before confirming they would do the section but I had kept stating all the way through that if they refused I would keep going through whatever channels until it was agreed-I like to think I was 'forceful' in presenting my case but I was probably a pain in the arse but only because it was the only option for me because my thought processes around birth are not normal or rational which I guess is why it's a phobia!! I did get a lot of 'too posh to push' from people when I tried to explain my phobia and in the end I got so fed up with being judged that when people used to say it I just used to say yes I am!!! (I'm not!)I had a very lovely section at 39 weeks and for me it was perfect, particularly seeing dp in his hat and gown!

Attempting transfer........

Smallgreenone · 19/12/2012 18:26

Evening all. Gosh amey 6 seconds!!! That's amazing!!
We've done better with naps today because I drove baby small round for two hours at lunchtime! Hoping it makes a difference if not i have just wasted a load of expensive petrol!
Birth story............my waters broke at 25 weeks so was on twice weekly heart monitoring and once a week ultrasounds. At 36 weeks went for my routine appointment and consultant didnt like the heart trace so told me to return next day for another one and another scan. Turned up the net day and trace still not good and ultrasound showed hardly any water left so he wanted to induce there and then. DH was on a stag do so they let me wait until he got back. Stuck me on a drip to induce and after 3 hours decided baby small was distressed and they whipped him out. My consultant was a good family friend was weird having your cervix checked by someone you're used to seeing at social events of your parents!!! He was however amazing and delivered baby small expertly and barely a scar to show for it thanks to his neat stitches. I wouldn't have another c section though would like to try and do it normally next time. If there is a next time of course!!
Attempting transfer now.....

MissingMyBaubles · 19/12/2012 18:56

Evening all.

Rubbish nights all around. I fell asleep mid post last night!! Slept in the chair for I don't know how long, had at least three transfer fails st different feeds, singing for an hour, then co-sleeping from about 5 resulting in sleeping til 9. Hope tonight is better, for everyone.

There's lots of 'stuff' going on too. Glad your DH and HV are supportive, Amey; I hope you are able to get sorted, and yes, hormones are bizarre I feel quite broody at times!! You too, MrsN, I hope your counselling goes well.

I also am rubbish with daytime nap routines.

Clumsasaurus · 19/12/2012 19:49

Loving the birth stories :-)

We kinda cracked naps 6 weeks ago in the sense that every 90-120 mins babysaurus needs one! He'll take the first of the day in his cot no probs but the rest he needs to Bevin the pram, although I have perfected the art of rocking him off in it now in the house - the first couple of weeks I was out in all weathers to get him to sleep now in my slippers with tea in the other hand :-) all that aside he only naps for about 30 mins at a time so pretty pants in the world of naps!

Birth for me was lightening quick to start then slowed right down! I had a bloody show at 2:15am and the contractions came thick and fast! By 6am I was in hospital 6cm dilated! The rush of oxytocin was making me sick (a lot and everywhere - sorry tmi!) so I had a shot of diamorphine to slow everything down (weird spacey out stuff) and then constantly fed glucose tablets as I threw anything else up! Babysaurus finally came at 6:02pm with nothing but gas and air. I initially said never again but... Maybe I will :-)

Crossing everything for good nights for us all!.

Ameybee · 19/12/2012 19:55

That must've been weird small having someone you know examine your cervix! I suppose I was lucky that mine was only examined the once! I had a similar delivery with DD arrived at hospital at 930 and she was born at 1225, clearly I shell them like peas! Forgot to add that DS was born in his waters! DH said it was the weirdest thing ever seeing this face in a big bag of water as his head was born, it burst as his body came out & my feet (& everyone else's) got soaked! Weirdly the pain of doing it twice hasn't put me off!

susie that must be a terrifying phobia especially if they were possibly not going to allow a c section Blush glad it was a positive experience in the end. I don't think people understand phobias properly sometimes, I'm a bit of an ementophobe (fear of being sick) luckily I didn't have morning sickness, but if DD is sick I find it really horrendous to deal with & I find the whole weaning/gagging thing really hard, I could never do baby led weaning for this reason.

Well, DS had 1oz of formula again via small cup/syringe (takes ages) but it appears to make him much more settled after bath & at bedtime. Wish he would just take bottle tho Sad xxx

MrsNPattz · 19/12/2012 21:05

Yes small that must have been very weird! And it must have been very scary having your waters break at 25 weeks.

Lots of interesting birth stories! And just goes to show how different they all are!

First transfer fail here and feeding again. Obviously didn't take enough before he fell asleep on the boob last time!

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MrsNPattz · 19/12/2012 21:42

Hey guys, I have another question - how long are you all planning to sleep in the same room as your little ones? I am going to until he is at least 6 months but feel like people think I'm crazy when I tell them that!

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MrsNPattz · 19/12/2012 21:42

Hey guys, I have another question - how long are you all planning to sleep in the same room as your little ones? I am going to until he is at least 6 months but feel like people think I'm crazy when I tell them that!

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Ameybee · 19/12/2012 21:54

We will def do 6 months mrsn I know lots of people that haven't but I'm too paranoid not to with the cot death advice. I think once he's into a better pattern if it ever happens I might put him in his own room for first stretch then move him into ours after first feed.
We kept DD in for 9 months Blush & when we moved her I cried! But I'm a wet lettuce!! X

funchum8am · 19/12/2012 22:13

Right catching up with you all!
Birth: induced at 41+12, induction horribly painful and mishandled by midwives so I have put in a complaint and have a meeting with the hospital in January to discuss it. Delivery suite was fab though, great staff. I was taken there from antenatal ward at 6cm dilated, gas and air was amazing! Then had to have 3 bags of syntocin so had an epidural, also amazing. 2 hours 20 of pushing got us not very far so prepped for a Cs but they gave forceps a try first and out she came Smile. I will not be accepting induction again most likely and will also be avoiding staying in overnight in the postnatal ward if I can, as that was like a war zone! But the delivery part was actually quite a good experience! Not sure if we are going for a second child and we are considering adoption at some point but really all options are possible for now.

Re where babyfunch sleeps, we are planning on 6 months in our room but as I go back to work when she is 4.5 months I may end up in the spare room as I think I would expire if I had to go to work after the rubbish nights we always have.

Night 3 of project Gaviscon starts here! Trying to give her some in a bottle of ebm tonight, and giving a bit less as she is a bit constipated Sad

Happy sleepies everyone Smile

Ameybee · 19/12/2012 22:49

Good on you for complaining fun I did with DD as stitching was awful & i got told to stop moving and put my bottom down - I was screaming in pain because the local anaesthetic hasn't worked! DH told the midwife to stop in the end as I was sobbing! I think it contributed to PND. Complaining made me feel better.

DS just woke himself up with a very loud fart Grin! Made me laugh, he looked scared tho! X

HeffalumpsAndWoozles · 19/12/2012 23:31

Ooh birth stories, I love a good birth story! Xmas Grin You'd think given how generally unpleasant most of the experience is we wouldn't want to relive it wouldn't you?! My two were very different although I was very lucky with both that they were straightforward, quick and with no tearing.

DD1 was born at 42+1 after 5 (5!!!) sweeps, a pessary, ARM and syntocin drip. I was in from the Saturday evening until she was born at 8.25 on the Monday morning, although most of that time was waiting around for the pessary to work. Contractions finally started about midnightish that morning, they moved me into a birthing room at 2.45, gave me a gown to change into and left me to call DH. He then managed the 25 minute journey in less than 15 minutes as I was in such a state on the phone, totally terrified! Everything went really quickly after that and got quite intense, I went from 2cm to 8cm in an hour so was offered and then refused and epidural in the space of ten minutes! She was born vaginally after 2.5 hours 'established' labour with the help of gas & air, a fantastic student midwife and DH's very bruised hand to hold!

DD2's birth was much more relaxed, I went in for induction at 41+5 feeling really miserable as I'd been desperate not to go through induction again and had so wanted a water birth. Had already had three sweeps and a show, they examined and said already 3cm so I could go up to the MLU for ARM and if all kicked off I'd still be able to have my water birth after all, I could have kissed them! The lovely midwife broke my waters at 18.30 and we went for a walk round the hospital grounds, got half way round and had to grab a wheelchair as the contractions were coming so thick and fast I couldn't walk and was throwing up everywhere (yuck!) Then followed comedy moment of DH legging it along the corridors with me in wheelchair trying to point out directions back to the MLU while still having contractions and trying not to spew in my own lap Xmas Blush. Got back, stuck on my classical birth playlist (pissed of DH but really helped me relax!) used tens for about 40 minutes while pool was filling then had my hallelujah moment as I got in and felt instant blessed relief! About another 40 minutes of breathing with some gas and air and out she popped, all 9lb 8oz of her! It was such a fantastic experience, next time (next time she says...!) I'm considering a home water birth. I did a hypnobirthing course too which I think made a massive difference in helping me relax.

funch yours sounds awfully handled, hope they are able to put things right as far as possible when you meet in January. Adoption sounds interesting, have you always thought you might like to do that?

mrsn we'll keep babylump with us until at least 6 months too, I love having her in our room and I secretly love it when Dd1 wakes up at 4am to come in and snuggle back to sleep with us too. Just wish we had a bigger bed so there was actually enough room for everyone!

Another mammoth post, sorry! Keep the birth stories coming so I've got lots to read later at next feed!

StuntNun · 20/12/2012 00:01

Gosh I don't want to post my birth stories, they would scare you off having another apart from the middle one wasn't too bad with only gas & air, pethidine, syntocin, ventouse and stitches. The other two ended up with EMCS; we came very close to losing DS1 and we'll never know how much the hypoxia contributed to his ADHD and Aspergers. If I have a fourth it will be an elective section but I don't know whether there will be time to fit another in as I'm getting on a bit now. Next time I get broody I'll get a puppy instead!

StuntNun · 20/12/2012 00:03

I just saw the time on my last post and hadn't realised it was so late. Does this mean I'll only get woken twice in the night instead of three times?

Smallgreenone · 20/12/2012 00:25

Third waking since 9. Calpol has been administered, fingers crossed it works. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Susieloo · 20/12/2012 01:02

Birth stories all very interesting, what a great question.

We are on third feed since bed at six thirty, he's not hungry just awake, fed for a minute if that and now back in his cot hopefully going back to sleep but I'm not hopeful after last nights hour waking, dp is being annoying in his sleep by sleep talking nonsense.

I finally managed to get my hands on the salted caramel profiteroles and consumed about eight in the course of today, there is one left for emergencies later.

Mrsn-he will be staying in with us probably until he is out of a cot, we only have a two bed house and dss is here twice in the week and every other weekend and although he can't wait to share with his baby brother the reality of him having to be quiet etc is just not going to work I don't think so I'm going to put it off for as long as possible!!

Need to check nappy-hopefully just wind.

Hope your asleep marbles and doing okay.

Susieloo · 20/12/2012 01:30

Stil up-not enjoying the new poonami schedule of middle of the night-seems to wake him up too much, he's feeding properly so hopefully he will go back down until 7-this wont happen but I can dream!!

Macaroons · 20/12/2012 02:03

Hi all, new to this thread although not new to night time feeding! My DS is 14 weeks old, usually needs feeding at 23.30, 4.30 and 6.30. i have been breast feeding fine all along but today my milk duct is somehow blocked and I've spent the past 3 hours sorting it out Confused still not sorted but thought I'll say hi.

funchum8am · 20/12/2012 02:22

Hi macaroons think I recognise you from the September thread Smile Good luck with clearing the duct Sad

Re adoption, we had a phase where I thought I might be going to suffer recurrent miscarriage (i had 2) so we looked at adoption. We were sold on the idea to the point of becoming registered respite foster carers but only ended up doing one session of fostering before I got pg with babyfunch. However we are still both quite keen (and I am also not likely to survive another set of newborn nights!). we hope to move to the midlands in the next 2 years so new job and potential maternity would be very bad combo, but I am getting on a bit to be leaving a second pregnancy longer than that, and can't face another miscarriage. So all in all even if we weren't already interested adoption might be a good plan. Mainly though we would like to offer a home to a child or even siblings who are in need of a loving family. Looking into it before made us more keen not less so it may happen one day Smile

There are some pretty interesting birth stories here...glad to hear I am not the only one to complain! stunt I am so sorry to hear you had such terrible experiences....you are a hero to have had three after all that!

About to do Gaviscon dose 2. She is refusing the bottle so am back on the syringe ans it is horrible; she screams at it and it takes ages as a dose is 30g Sad

Macaroons · 20/12/2012 02:32

Hi fun chum I noticed a few other names from the sept thread - Heff, smallgreenone Wink

2.30 it's still hard like rock after massaging and expressing in the past hour. Really not happy and not sure if I should go to bed in my current state. Would gp be able to help tmr, or will I need lactation consultant? DS 3 month hand tmr at 10.30 too...

Macaroons · 20/12/2012 02:37

*jabs

funchum8am · 20/12/2012 03:17

macaroons oh no! Not sure what to advise but I would think the gp or nurse at baby jabs clinic tomorrow should be able to help. They might just say carry on expressing and massaging anyway. Have you been feeding that side? Lots of sympathy coming your way Sad Sad

Susieloo · 20/12/2012 03:26

Up again...........

Hello macaroons

I have eaten the last profiterole

That's all

elvislives2012 · 20/12/2012 03:29

Morning! First feed of the night. Can't believe it! Think it's because of DD having her first set of jabs today- she's been sparko since 8.30Grin
macaroons blocked duct sounds painful. Think it would be a dr thing but I'm not sure. It sounds like you are doing the right thing tho. Just keep feeding And massaging. Are u able to position baby so it's chin is resting on it and therefore massaging as they feed?
mrsn definitely keeping baby in with us for 6 months.
Enjoying the birth stories because I'm mosey . Had EMCS in the end as had been labouring for 30 hours with no progress and baby getting distressed Hmm she also tried coming out sideways Shock so they tried turning her with forceps to no avail. Poor baby came out with bruises all over her face but was still the most beautiful baby I've ever seen!
Attempting transfer...

MrsNPattz · 20/12/2012 03:36

First feed here - it's totally wild again outside, don't like it when it's like this. Little man's hands are freezing but I don't think it's too cold in the nursery.

Thanks for feedback re sleeping in same room, I'm glad to here others are thinking the same as me. It's the cot death that scares me too and I wouldn't feel happy leaving him yet. I think I will cry too amey!

funch so sorry you have suffered miscarriages and a bad labour experience. It's lovely to hear you might consider fostering/adoption. My dad was adopted and couldn't have asked for a nicer mum and dad. He has found his birth mum (who has now passed away) but she denied him Sad (we don't know if this was due to illness in her old age or denial) but her sister remembers dad being born, and he now has a half brother and sister who we keep in touch with which is lovely but as I said, he wouldn't change his adopted mum and dad for the world and they were an amazing nana and grandad to me.

susie 8 is impressive! I kept stealing the tops off them Blush haha we have red velvet cupcakes and I keep doing the same to them!!

Oops sorry for rambling, going in for transfer soon..............

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