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It WAS very childish of me, but I got a dig in at some Formula companies today......

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 04/04/2006 16:55

Got sent a market research survey today asking me my opinions on formula milk.

So i gave them.....WinkGrin

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Chandra · 05/04/2006 15:30

Gosh Koolkat! you really are!

colditz · 05/04/2006 15:32

Prrrrp

You all need norkulating.

Chandra · 05/04/2006 15:33

I better not ask what is that Wink

koolkat · 05/04/2006 15:33

I advocate the "fundamentals" of bf, so I must be a fundamentalist:

good positioning
good latch
bf on demand
co-sleeping,
even god forbid baby carrying in a sling
bf for at least the first 2 years, etc !

Does this conjure up a nasty image of someone carrying a bomb/machine gun, or a super happy baby ?

lockets · 05/04/2006 15:33

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JoolsToo · 05/04/2006 15:34

I was going to post something else to add to the debate - I typed it and deleted it

cos you know what? I couldn't give a toss what each of you individual mothers decide to feed your kiddiwinks on, you all love your children. Mine have all left home, job done!

oliveoil · 05/04/2006 15:34

bf for two years? I would rather chop of my own foot. IMO.

GDG · 05/04/2006 15:34

And a bloody marvellous job you did too JT Grin

GDG · 05/04/2006 15:34

ROFLMAO @ Olive!! Me too!

lockets · 05/04/2006 15:36

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Chandra · 05/04/2006 15:36

Lockets? are you pregnant again? congratulations!!!!!!! :)

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 05/04/2006 15:37

good positioning
good latch
bf on demand
co-sleeping,
even god forbid baby carrying in a sling
bf for at least the first 2 years, etc !

Does this conjure up a nasty image of someone carrying a bomb/machine gun, or a super happy baby

OK - I did the "on demand" bit with both of mine. But you know - what - they're both super happy babies.

JoolsToo · 05/04/2006 15:37

tee hee lockets! Grin

I must say though Earl Grey AND SMA both taste somewhat of cardboard!

koolkat · 05/04/2006 15:38

Olive - quite - that is exactly how some women feel about formula feeding for ANY length of time !

Good afternoon ladies, I can see you are all having fun.

GDG · 05/04/2006 15:38

Chandra, where have you been?! Grin

lockets · 05/04/2006 15:39

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 05/04/2006 15:39

oh and I had all fo them for DS1 - co-slept, fed on demand, carried in a sling (well layed in my arms - he was permanently attached LOL) etc etc etc - and you know what - he was the most miserable baby I've ever met for the first 4 months. If he wasn't feeding or sleeping (the latter being a rare commodity when he was little) he was screaming his lungs out.

Chandra · 05/04/2006 15:40

In the allergies topic I suppose Blush. Besides, lockets doesn't post at midnight which are my Mumsnet posting hours Wink

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 05/04/2006 15:40

that is exactly how some women feel about formula feeding for ANY length of time !

Yes and they're also the ones who feel bl**dy awful, and probably end up with PND if things don't work out and they end up bottlefeeding.

GDG · 05/04/2006 15:40

Hehehe!

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 05/04/2006 15:41

anyhow - I think I'm going to have to be norkulated (whatever it is), wake DS2 up from his nap, get to Morrisons and Wilkinsons and then take DS's to the park before dinner as I promised..........

oliveoil · 05/04/2006 15:43

QOQ - I think you need to go and have a lie down.

BornBerry · 05/04/2006 15:43

Quote - Spare a thought for those of us who have had no choice but to formula feed (my milk ran out after 4 weeks) and so had to swap to bottle feeding rather than starve my DS. I hate the fact that I couldn't continue to feed him myself and worry all the time that I am not doing the best for his health but what choice did I have ? - End Quote

Big hugs to you as sounds very similar to my situation with DS1. When I later discovered apart from in rare cases such as retained placenta or severe thyroid conditions for example milk can't just run out I was really angry at the lack of information and support I had received. There is nothing at all a new mum can do in this situation and I stopped blaming myself or carrying any guilt whatsoever when I realised the HP's are the ones who let me down and who should feel guilty. I (and many others)were/are new mums but they're the experienced people paid to help us.

Quote - Perhaps the breastfeeding campaigns should be more focused on mothers who want to BF but are experiencing problems rather than saying just "breast is best" and forgetting about providing breastfeeding support? - End Quote

Couldn't agree with this more! I had 9 months of "breast is best" but not once did anyone tell me what to expect, what a growth spurt was, how sore nipples could be avoided etc etc. Promoting something without the support to actually do it is totally pointless IMHO. UK breastfeeding rates are brilliant at birth, by 6 weeks theyre terrible.

Quote - It's not even necessarily what is said - it's the language they use (e.g. substandard - as you pointed out) which is clearly used to evoke a response. - End Quote

I'm sorry you feel this way, my language isn't used to provoke a reponse because to me factually that is how it stands and saying yes breast IS best would be lying - my post was also in reply to someone stating breast was best but formula was a good alternative. My point was its the ONLY alternative and I used the words substandard when demonstrating that point. Not to rile anyone nor casually thrown into a conversation but in the context of a specific reply.

Emotions, history and personal "baggage aside" If I held 2 white bottles infront of you and said one is "free" and contains a substance your baby is designed to be fed, the other contains a substance you pay for; it contains no live pro-biotics, hormones, anti cancer fighting properties or cells whatsoever and in addition you pay for this, from the information we have shows it may double a childs risk of childhood cancer, plus a whole other heap of other long and short term illnesses and diseases... which one would YOU say was substandard ??

I think its FAB if mums can be happy with their choices but IMHO many aren't and until mums receive the true information and support from HP's on which to make these choices emotions will always run high and mums will always feel guilt, something which I think is very wrong.

Perhaps \link{http://www.bobrow.net/kimberly/birth/BFLanguage.html\the language of breastfeeding} explains it better?

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 05/04/2006 15:44

I should really - I'm working tongiht and I've been up since 8am arghhhhhhh. Still not as bad as at the weekend. Got up Saturday morning 8am, did a huge shop in the mornings, spent the afternoon 'relaxing' (haha) at home, worked all night (busy night at work too), got home, played for the service at church, went to the shop for some wrapping paper, went to a 5yr old's birthday party and finally crashed into bed at 6pm Sunday afternoon!

Caligula · 05/04/2006 15:48

Great link Bornberry.