Litre bottles of readytodrink formula!

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I can't believe I didn't know these were now available! I need to work out how much more they cost than faffing with mixing up powder and hot watet, but omg at bloody last.

formula companies! Finally they are taking responsibility for manufacturing a sterile and safe product rather than making parents deal with the stress and difficulty of making sure milk is made up safely.

Now, DS almost 8mo is shifting from 5 bottles a day to 4 of about 250ml each so these will be perfect. I assume they need to be ditched after 24hrs like the little cartons.

Those links are bonkers but strangely fascinating.

Given they appear to be from the scientifically illiterate canon that is nutritionism I am not going to take his or her recommendations too seriously...

Sorry OP. have hijacked your thread ;)

Just something else for new mums to stress about

My DD has been driven formula since 6 weeks and she's the healthiest child I know, hasn't been sick once in her 11months.

*given

For lurkers: please do not ever try to make your own formula. It would be extremely dangerous.

I second that hoop

i'm not suggesting you make your own formula all the time. i only did it once when dd was 9 months old and i went to a wedding abroad and i wasn't sure if i had expressed enough. i used the recipe here:
www.westonaprice.org/childrens-health/recipes-for-homemade-baby-formula/

my real point was that if are considering starting any form of formula feeding (and you have the choice to continue breast feeding), then do some research on the list of ingredients in baby formula and see how you feel after that. Most mums I know wouldn't buy food for their children with the kind of sythetic ingredients that are found in baby formula, but are happy to use the formula because it is so convenient. I just find it funny that everyone seems concerned about reading the list of ingredients in most food items, but not in baby formula. Mothers often try to avoid giving their children sugar when they're too young (a good idea), but gluclose (i.e. sugar) is very high on the list of ingredients in most baby formulas!

i thought this article from the ecologist was interesting:
www.theecologist.org/trial_investigations/268337/breastmilk_vs_formula_food.html

Er, but formula is supposed to have sugars in it for energy. BM has a lot of sugar in it!

The guidance for no added sugar is so that babies aren't given more sugar than what is in BM / F and naturally occuring in foods.

wholesomebabyfood.momtastic.com/homemadebabyinfantformula.htm

Found this link that warns against making your own

Just looked at the ingredients list for Aptimil ready-to-feed and couldn't find any glucose. I mainly bf, buy have no problem with formula at all.

1789 - I really don't think making your own formula is as safe as giving commercially prepared formula that has to be made according to certain rules and regs particularly to avoid giving a baby glucose! Suggesting that people do this is dangerous.

Just looked at sma ready made no glucose in that

BM has lactose, which is a naturally occuring sugar. Aptamil has galacto-oligosaccharides which are made up of galactose and gluclose. However, I am even more concerned about the vegetable oil content in formula as well as the potassium chloride, magnesium chloride, ferrous sulphate, zinc sulphate, calcium carbonate and potassium citrate in formulas.

I am really not suggesting you should make your own formula, just that you should stop and think about the ingredients in formula before deciding to give up bf. It's a different story if you really can't bf for whatever reason.

This is interesting:
www.bcbabyfriendly.ca/whatsinbreastmilkposter.pdf

Personally I'm not worried by all those minerals mentioned by 1789. They are just forms of minerals used for supplementation. The same ones are in my breastfeeding multivits, so I imagine my baby is getting them via my breastmilk.

Those are just the chemical words for vitamins, which are freely available from carrots and apples

1789 I find your post quite offensive and a bit bonkers to be honest, are you saying that mothers who can't breast feed are fine to use the (according to you) oil and poison laced formula but that mums that choose to stop breast feeding when they could potentially carry on are evil thoughtless cows who are might as well be liquidizing turkey twizzlers?!

total fat (g/100 ml) 4.2
fatty acids - length 8C (% ) trace
polyunsaturated fatty acids (%) 14
Protein (g/100 ml)
total 1.1
casein 0.4 0.3
a-lactalbumin 0.3
lactoferrin (apo-lactoferrin) 0.2
IgA 0.1
IgG 0.001
lysozyme 0.05
serum albumin 0.05
ß-lactoglobulin -
Carbohydrate (g/100 ml)
lactose 7
oligosaccharides 0.5
Minerals (g/100 ml)
calcium 0.03
phosphorus 0.014
sodium 0.015
potassium 0.055
chlorine 0.043

Goodness me - what is that nasty list of horrible chemicals? I couldn't possibly ever give them to my baby. What - it's the chemical composition of breast milk you say?. Oh no!!!! There are chemicals in breastmilk? Really? I've been giving my baby chemicals? ????

Just as well my babies have had formula then.

Just off to put some acetic acid and sodium chloride on my fish and chips....

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1789 kindly take your so called methods off a FF thread and hurry back to the breast feeding threads there's a dear you see the problem is us awful terrible FF mums don't give a flying fuck what you think.

Oh and don't be concerned, you did the best thing by breast feeding, the rest of us who didn't don't really need your concerns thanks.

I'm not even arsed with getting offended tbh, it's hilarious the idea of making my own formula, which scientists have carefully developed over decades to resemble breastmilk as closely as possible. I'm sure I could knock something up. I quite like the idea of liquidising turkey twizzlers

V amusing, not something I've ever read about before so thanks for the funny links all!

Oh I'm the OP, have nc'd.

1789, you do know that raw milk can contain brucellosis and listeria, right? And that both of these can be extremely serious?

I have no problem at all giving my children any of the ingredients you listed. I take it when you introduce food into your children's diets you have scrupulously excluded anything of 'synthetic' origin??!

I suspect you are probably quite heavily influenced by the nutritionism movement. In which case, I have just two words to say to you: Ben Goldacre :)

I also had a good giggle over the links, I had never heard of making your own formula

A FF and proud

Ahh whatcha moanng about, I bet it's easy. A dash of vitamins A,B,C, etc, a glug of lucozade, a just a smidgeon of crushed lacewing flies. Maybe add a chicken nugget or two when they turn 4 months old, for protein yaknow.

Bob's your Uncle and Fanny's your mother's sister, homemade but just as good formula, for a bargain price.

Someone alert the media.