AIBU to feel a bit sorry for this newborn baby?

[TheCountessOlenska]

Just seen some pics of a new baby on Facebook - only a couple of weeks old. I counted at least two other family members aside from the Mother giving the baby it's bottle.

Surely in your first few weeks on this earth, it's not too much to ask to be snuggled safe with your mummy breastfeeding

There are no kangaroos!

I will get kangaroos and they will never ever eat turnips. DS is convinced he's getting a real lion that won't eat him because DS is 'ever so nice to lions'

i'm properly laughing at that Mud

bless his little cottons

we've got a 'thing' that looks like a kangaroo but it's on all fours - it says 'china' on the underneath so i will never know.

Maybe it's a wallaby

He thinks the lion will sleep in his bed. I suggested a hamster called lion but he's not convinced.

Maybe he will be the next lion man!

How do you lot know what the OP said??

All I could read was "Blah blah blah blah, I am a twat, Yadda yadda yadda"

Is there some secret code I dont know about?

I did suggest a career in animal keeping but he wants to be a space ranger builder knight who rescues princesses. He doesn't understand there's a recession and those jobs are hard to come by these days

of course YABU.

did you not get the memo with your 'build your own Zoo' manual ferret?

t'is a new quiche don'tchaknew

Ok, Ok - IABU.

I shouldn't have put in the crossed out bit about breastfeeding I realise that. I don't even think there is anything wrong with FF.

I admit I was a bit pissed off about the responses to the Breastfeeding Seven year old thread.

BUT I did think that it was supposed to be a good idea for mum and dad to feed the baby esp. when so little. Not random relations.

hmmm my HV told me that even if the baby is having the odd bottle, its better for the mum to do it rather than passing the baby around....is this just HV drivel or is there anything to it? someone please google it for me coz I cant be bothered....

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No one can draw any conclusions about a few pics of a newborn baby.

But of course it is not good for a baby to be fed by lots of different people. It won't matter on the odd occasion, of course. But routinely, the baby needs to be fed by the same person (or maybe two people, tops) when he is young.

This is based on what we know about how babies develop socially, emotionally and cognitively. Feeding, whether it's breast or bottle, is an important part of a baby's life - it's not just a means of growing bigger. Babies learn to relate and to communicate and to love and to share experience at the breast/over the bottle. This important learning and experience is affected if it is in the 'hands' of too many people - the baby over-stimulates and protects himself by switching off from the learning/experiencing.

Utterly wrong, insensitive and blinkered to say the baby doesn't care who feeds him (as someone did near the start of the thread). If we care about babies' early experiences, we should care about them having feeding experiences that help them and support their development.

But - no, I would not feel sorry for the baby in the pictures, unless I knew that most feeds were like pass the parcel, in which case, I would.

So what about babies who are tube fed in hospital by different nurses and both parents

Or thise who are in nursery from a young age, fed by different staff members?

moomin, babies who are tube fed need lots and lots of skin to skin contact with one or two special people, if at all possible. It needs to be recognised that tube feeding means the baby is missing out - of course it is sometimes necessary for the baby's physical survival, but there is normally no reason for the baby to go without physical closeness as well.

Babies in a nursery from a very young age, fed by different staff members, are missing out. A good nursery will make sure their very young babies are fed by one or two known carers, whenever possible.

However, if we are talking about babies who are a bit older, it's not so much of an issue. I was really talking about babies in the first days, weeks and months.

Babies that cannot be fed by a few people or must be fed by tube are getting a rough deal out of life. That happens. Being fed by tube is presumably necessary or it wouldnt be done.

Passing baby around from person to person isnt usually necessary and should be avoided if it is found to be detrimental (and I am not going to disagree with Tiktok on that).

I'm glad I didn't have to read this crap when my baby was in hospital and wasnt able to be taken out of his incubator, luckily now the time has past I know that not being able to feed him or pick him up in the beginning has done him no harm what so ever

Babies recover from a difficult start, moomin. Their early days, even weeks, can be difficult and they may have to be separated from their parents. Good practice in special care/NICUs is to encourage skin to skin (sometimes called kangaroo care) even with very tiny, sick babies. When this does not happen, it does not mean the baby is permanently harmed - your baby came home, you no doubt showered him with love and responsiveness and you made up for the difficult times as a result.

Why would you call it 'crap' when someone points out that when babies are separated from the physical closeness of the mother because of having to be in an incubator, the baby misses out? The mother misses out, too :(

If it really doesn't matter a bit that a baby is in an incubator, then lets have all babies separated from their mothers and cared for in nurseries by other people and tell mothers they're surplus to requirements!

Oh is the zoo a quiche?
I always wanted to be in a quiche.

whyever not, Mud

only thing is, i'm veggie so a non-meaty zoo quiche

Hmmm as long as you're the one explaining to the massive meat eating beasts that they have to change their diet

I really do need to start building the zoo.

nah, the lion's your department

Maybe we could start a vegetarian zoo quiche, we could feed the lions cheese and tomatoes

mud the proncesses are probably the hardest thong to come by nowadays, maybe he could forget them and just be a space ranger builder knighthph

Ds2 had a thing about crocogatots when he was younger , maybe we could bread some

moomin, do you understand why I was not writing 'crap' in my previous posts, then?

I must be a shit mother then I have several pictures of DB, DSD, DM and MIL feeding DS... Maybe I should put comments underneath saying that I feed the first half of the bottle, they fed a bit then he came back to me for the rest! Despite that DS will only take a full bottle from me, which is lovely but not good when I'm at the hospital all morning and he's with his Grandma or Daddy, he goes hungry as he won't feed from them.

It's amazing how someone can make an assumption from seeing a few pictures.

DS was BF till 6 weeks when I got an infection and needed antibiotics that i couldnt BF and take and tried as hard as I could to express but with no success. Everyone presumes that DS was bottle fed from day 1, nobody realises that having a premature baby was hard as my milk didn't come in till day 6, no one realises that having to stop BF started my PND

One thing is for sure, DS will look round the room for me. He doesn't like being separated for long so clearly I'm doing something right....

Ohhhh happy days!!

winter I made this great joke about photos not giving you the whole picture earlier in the thread....