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The most helpful thing about breastfeeding you wish you'd known...

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Fishpond · 11/01/2012 03:04

I am hoping to breastfeed DC1 when he/she is born next summer. I am not a crazy anti-formula woman, but it's very common here in the US to bottle feed so I expect to get a bit of Hmm looks and meet a bit of resistance, so would like to go in with the most knowledge possible from (imo) the best experts - mums who previously breastfed.

What do you wish you had known before you started? I plan on not buying bottles / formula in 'just in case' as I have heard that makes it much easier to stop. Family is already telling me that I'll "need to have bottles or else you can't pass it to anyone else" Hmm

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LittleCatZ · 17/01/2012 22:24

Gosh OP what a lot of advice, BF is an emotive subject and very personal. The single most important thing is to go to a group - ideally before baby arrives! That way you will have people (who can actually see you and baby for latch issues etc) that you can call on for advice as and when you need it for whatever issues you have.

bouncysmiley · 17/01/2012 23:01

Get your DH to read the leaflets and help with positioning as another perspective helps but don't stress too much about being 'textbook' - for example my DD is a noisey eater, not textbook but it works.
Breastmilk squeezed onto nipple and left to airdry after feed really helps with cracked nipples.
Keep taking off and reattaching as many times as it takes- persevering when the positioning is out whilst seeming easier when really tired but can result in super sore nipples.
It will get better and become easy and enjoyable....I thought my MW was nuts when she asked me if i was enjoying it yet 3 weeks in but now i totally get it.

PerpetualProvocateur · 18/01/2012 00:27

Be prepared to just go with the flow. The first four-six weeks can feel like one big long feed, but try to keep in mind that it will later seem to have passed in the blink of an eye, and just enjoy snuggling your newborn.

It can hurt a bit, even if you're doing everything right. It really gets to me that the professionals always harp on about how it shouldn't hurt, but most people I know who have breastfed have had some sensitivity at first.

If you are feeling unsure about anything, see a breastfeeding counselor straight away before you learn to live with anything that's not ideal. At the very least it will boost your confidence.

What you drink and eat really does effect your milk supply, so make sure you look after yourself. It is worth planning easy to eat meals and snacks for the early days.

If you have large breasts, the cradle and crossover holds may not work well for you. Once I discovered the rugby hold and the side-lying feed, everything clicked into place. The latter is a godsend for getting some sleep too, especially during growth spurts.

It can be really, really lovely even if you have a few problems at first, and is definitely worth sticking it out.

Good luck!

MrsH2010 · 18/01/2012 08:38

I think one of the most important things is to go with the flow (scuse the pun!). A breastfed baby will make their own schedule and certainly for a while no two days or nights will be the same. Long feeds, cluster feeds, days of doing nothing but feeding a growth spurt! Def dont need to have bottles in so that others can have the baby... My job was feeding till a year- others had cuddles, walks so I can rest, bath and nappytime. Feeding was all mine so dont feel pressured on that!
I found a great thing was a bebe au lait feeding apron ( i dont know abetter word to describe it!). Hook over neck like apron, covers baby and you giving complete discretion yet has a hooped top so you csn still have eye contact with baby. Especially excellent when they get a bit older and wriggly. Folds so small so no hassle to take out and about.

Housewifefromheaven · 18/01/2012 08:48

The most helpful thing I wish I'd known...

That even after all these years (10) I would still be classing it as one of my greatest achievments :)

Truffkin · 18/01/2012 09:24

So much advice here! Thought I'd share my experience (my DS is nearly 8 weeks old and we are BFing on demand)

  • that it can work well from the outset and not be a nightmare of bleeding nipples and screaming baby! I'd heard so many horror stories that I was unprepared for us to take to feeding so readily

  • that even with ginormo boobs I could learn to be comfortable feeding in public

  • that cluster feeding is normal from time to time and natures way for the baby to tell your body to up production to maintain a good supply.

  • that there are lots of things for Dad to do to care for the baby so EBFing does not mean excluding him!

I'm only 2 months in, but BFing has amazed me and been far less difficult than expected. Hope it works for you.

all4u · 18/01/2012 09:39

I can offer the lessons I learned with two - DS then DD
Well No 1 and all that really matters is make sure little one gets the colostrum - totally painless a charming experience and sets up their immune system for life!
I made the mistake of letting DS do what he wanted - should have been more strict and popped him off as I later got v. sore. Wasn't at all ticklish and I am v ticklish!
No problem re milk elsewhere - I expressed (an electric pump is the only practical way and my team secretary leant me hers bless her) from 4 1/2 m when they started Day Nursery when my maternity leave ended. They were amused when DS spat artificial milk out when they ran out of mine one day and looked at the nursery nurse as if she was trying to poison him!
NB Human milk is incredibly sweet - try it! But modified cow is tasteless and powdery. But it takes a lot of work to suckle and bottles just tip it down the throat and they can gorge - hence the wind and long sleeps. DS only soiled his nappy once a week and it hardly smells - so much is digestible but artificial milk (including 'follow-on' of course) means large smelly nappies so that was a boon!
Anyway DD could not be bothered and gave me up at 7 months! Now she loves milk drinks tho' DS loved it all and we weaned him at 10 months. Now he only has ss goat milk in his tea! So they are all different (And so are Mums so you do what you feel is right for you!)

If you go for artificial nowadays though I would suggest that you stock up so you have supplies in case there is a Pandemic or some such that interferes with shops re-stocking - it is totally sealed so this is easily done. It would be truly terrible to run out and not to have anything to give him/her! You should still be able to boil water to sterilise and make it up somehow

And after all that? Well I was a 36A and went up to 36B when feeding but have gone down and breasts seem fine And we tell the story of DS aged about 8 months getting us to stop the car on the long journey home; take him out of his seat tuck him up my sweatshirt - it felt funny so I pulled up my shirt up to see what he was doing and he took his warm chubby face away and was laughing at me! It was his first practical joke! We both laughed and he has done these ever since!

Enjoy!

FickleFingerOfCake · 18/01/2012 12:22

The best tip I can pass on was given to me by one of the midwives on the maternity ward when DD and I were just trying to get to grips with the whole 'positioning' malarky:

DON'T hold the back of the baby's head when they're feeding

To explain, while it's important to support the head because newborns are so floppy, it's hard for the baby to drink when they can't move their head back and forth. The midwife asked me to imagine trying to drink a glass of water without being able to tilt my head back, and it made perfect sense. Simple but it helped us a lot.

Also, drink a glass of water for every feed in the early days and EAT WELL.

DD is now 8 months and still guzzling and was EBF to just under 6 months so it worked!

And to follow on from Housewifefromheaven above, always remember that being proud of your ability to breastfeed your baby is not the same thing as criticising bottlefeeding. Too often there's an assumption that it's somehow insensitive to admit (even to yourself) that it's a bloody big achievement (if that makes sense...)

Good luck.

mrssweetpotato · 18/01/2012 15:09

I also found it extremely painful for a couple of weeks even though the latch was good (I had it checked by 3 different midwives with bf training) and the pain gradually decreased to nothing at all by around week 3 or 4. It was hard to take after the pain of childbirth, and alongside exhaustion, flu and perineal trauma but it was COMPLETELY worth persevering because now I can give him what he needs any time with no preparation, I get better sleep because I don't have to get up in the night (or even sit up, as papooshka said, lying down is great). I also never expressed, I know it works for many, but I like the simplicity of no bottles or pumps or sterilisers, and I think supply and demand works best this way (judging from friends' experiences with mixed feeding)

Himalaya Grin my nipples were nearly the size of his head when he was little!

mrssweetpotato · 18/01/2012 15:31

Oh, and good advice I was given was don't try and lose weight, eat plenty of healthy calories (up to 700 more than usual I was told), keep drinking plenty of fluids and get some DVD box sets that you always wanted to watch but DP didn't want to as you'll be sitting for hours! Make sure both breasts are well drained regularly and that clothing or bra straps/ underwiring doesn't restrict the milk flow. Enjoy!! Good luck!

mrssweetpotato · 18/01/2012 15:46

Also dads do feel excluded, so make sure he knows he's needed. My DH was genuinely helpful with latching him on in the early days when I was exhausted and nervy about the pain.

judyinlondon · 18/01/2012 15:52

Enjoy it! it's such a lovely cuddle.
Top tips:

Baby straight there as soon as delivered. Tell the midwives you want it. very calming and comforting. Improves let down reflex. Then again, the first one that was not possible for 40 minutes and I had more milk than I knew what to do with. I could feed one side and catch a bottle of leaked milk the other at the same time.

before you leave hospital, make sure you can comfortably lie down and feed. It's dangerous to just sit in a sofa when you are dead tired (may smother the baby), but it is fine to lie down carefully on your side on a firm mattress. For me, I put a pillow behind the baby's back and the side I was feeding from behind the baby's back. This helps with the night time tired feeds.

Neither of my 2 children had an ounce of formula. The first one, after a couple of weeks, I expressed and bottle fed from time to time. I also had a lot of milk so I froze some then "cycled round" so the oldest was fed to the baby. The second one, I didn't bother so she refused a bottle completely when I wanted to go out..... Think about how long you want to be the sole feeder and whether you want them to be happy taking a bottle (of your milk).

Other tips:
Some people have too much milk with their first child, I slept on baby change mats to save our mattress.

If you are due in cold weather, get a zip up fleece or cardy so you don't have to expose your back.

Get comfortable latching the baby on in a peaceful place, then you can just pop the baby on and noone will notice.

Just enjoy!

nocluenoclueatall · 18/01/2012 16:17

Forget all idea of routines / schedules if you want to breast feed. You will only torment yourself and screw up your production if you feed on schedule.

The more you feed, the more milk you will have. So feed as much as you can basically!

Feeding lying down is brilliant, whenever possible.

If it's still painful after the first few weeks, or if your baby's not gaining weight, have them checked for a tongue tie. DS had this and it was a nightmare all round. It's surprisingly common, and very quickly rectified.

mathanxiety · 18/01/2012 17:34

That you need to feed the baby around the clock, and that the feeds between 11pm to 2am are really important to get your supply going in the early weeks, so forget about sleep and if you are determined, ignore the well meaning family members who insist on giving a bottle to let you sleep. Grit your teeth and go sleepless.

That family can be very concerned about co-sleeping, which is often a necessary arrangement with the cluster feeding and two hourly feeds that go with breastfeeding. If you have the baby in a crib in another room you will end up going insane. This goes completely against the training of American mothers of previous generations, so if you have an older MIL you may expect much flak about the marital bed.

That after a few months you can get a good Medela pump or other good brand that can take the pressure off.

That well meaning family members often prefer to hold the baby while you get on with housework. Learn to tell them what you really need without going ballistic (which they will interpret as all sorts of problems associated with breastfeeding.)

That you will not get much help with breastfeeding in an American hospital even though they may have a 'breastfeeding consultant' complete with clipboard and nametag with her surname. Join La Leche League and try to find a breastfeeding educator in your area (maybe through LLL). For problems like tongue tie, you may well be on your own as far as the hospital is concerned. Find a pro-breastfeeding pediatrician. Ask through LLL (whom you should establish contact with while still pregnant) when you are researching pediatricians. When researching pediatricians, ask about the quality of the nursing staff in the office too -- you want an attitude that they will gatekeep well and not have you come to the office for every little thing (and then charge you through the nose for issues that could have been dealt with by knowledgeable nurses over the phone for free).

That a good latch can be achieved by forming your spare hand into the shape of a letter C and squeezing your boob from underneath and above, making the nipple easy to insert as far in as it has to go (which is quite far in). Your hand should be close to your chest, not out near the nipple. Was taught this by a nurse originally from Africa. Your nipples may still feel as if they are being sandpapered, and one good way to cure them is to let them air dry -- close your blinds or curtains Blush.

That if your baby loses more than 10% of birthweight in the two weeks after birth you will have a lot of pressure to give formula. Do what you are advised to do. Jaundice is a potentially serious issue. You can breastfeed at the same time and can eliminate the bottle when the crisis has passed.

That you shouldn't bother buying special breastfeeding tops. A loose T-shirt that can be pulled up and then sort of draped over the baby will be fine.

That public breastfeeding is legal and no-one and no manager of a business premises has the right to make you go to a separate room to breastfeed.

That it can be difficult to ask for help if you need it when family is negative about breastfeeding. You may feel the baby blues are tipping over into PND but feel they would automatically blame the breastfeeding. Develop support systems outside of the family if they are really negative so that you will have someone to lean on if the need arises.

That though fathers can feel left out, when it's the breastfeeding mother and the baby against the world it is far easier if the father stands squarely with you on the subject. Make sure your DP knows how much his emotional support will be needed, and how much practical support he can also give (and don't tell him he's hoovering wrong or not folding the laundry right, etc). There is so much besides feeding that a father can do -- burping, rocking, changing nappies. Around the house, making a decision in the morning about what's for dinner that night and not waiting to be told by the exhausted chief executive is often just as helpful as doing the actual cooking, though doing the cooking is massively helpful too, plus of course all the washing and clearing up.

mathanxiety · 18/01/2012 17:44

There has been some recent research to the effect that breastfed babies tend to cry more than bottle fed babies. The study may have been based on reported crying as opposed to actual observations so not sure how reliable it was. Family members who are opposed to breastfeeding will be quick to interpret every bout of crying, colic, and all sleep issues as the sad but predictable results of your baffling choice to breastfeed. There may also be those who think breastfeeding is unsuitable for baby boys and will turn them into perverts, or that breastfeeding is just a way for you to create a rod for your own back as it 'spoils' the baby through too frequent attention/feeding/contact/cuddling.

You will find that people have responses to breastfeeding that will really enrage you and hurt you deeply. Their responses are indications of how messed up they are.

NorthernWreck · 18/01/2012 18:02

Um. I dont actually agree that you have to feed round the clock.
And human beings do need sleep to function.
I think that sometimes saying those kinds of things can actually really put people off BFing before they even try.

You milk wont dry up if you feed pretty much every 2-3 hours in the day,(Maye a bit more in the evening)and the baby will get a full feed each time.
You don't have to become a 24/7 milk machine. You dont have to make constant eye contact with your baby the whole time.You will still bond, even if you can't BF and it ends up on SMA.
You can mix feed-it's fine as long as the baby takes to both nipple and bottle.
If you mix feed the baby will still get the benefits of breast milk.

You dont have to shove your nipple in the babys mouth every time it squawks. It won't be scarred for life if you choose not to become a human pacifier.

Not everyone can (or wants to) sit around doing absolutely nothing but feed for weeks on end. You have to establish feeding, fine, but once established you can absolutely have some kind of routine, if you want one.

imo babies like to know whats coming and what time of day it is. You follow the baby's cues, but equally they follow yours too.

mathanxiety · 18/01/2012 18:05

Initially, you need to feed the baby around the clock. This is not the same as becoming a milk machine Hmm. You can co-sleep and feed the baby when you're half asleep. But sleeping for more than four or five hours at a stretch initially is out of the question.

NorthernWreck · 18/01/2012 18:18

Oh OK, five hours at a time seems reasonable. (like I did that the first few weeks ha!)
It just sounded like you were saying that this early phase will go on for weeks and I am saying it doesn't have to. In fact, if I hadnt established routine feeding I would have gone utterly and completely barking mad.(And ds just gained weight steadily from birth feeding every 2.5-3 hours from about day 4)

mathanxiety · 18/01/2012 18:29

Once the baby reaches about 12 lbs he or she can sleep for much longer.

Elena67 · 18/01/2012 19:23

be prepared to use cushions etc, especially if you are are bit on the big boobed side... I had a v shaped cushion tied behind me - it looked lovely Hmm - and still had to hold boob in one hand and support him with the other! Also if you turn out to be a bit short of milk then try domperidone from the doctor to aid lactation. After a really difficult start and weightloss etc, we (virtually) exclusively breastfed for six months and it was the most fantastic experience of my life. Don't expect it to look like it does on films and adverts - effortless elegant and easy - and it'll be fine! Good luck.

Sophiesworld · 18/01/2012 19:52

John Lewis have good feeding facilities - wish I'd realised that sooner! If I'm out and about now and there's one nearby I'll always head there when DD gets hungry.

Avenged · 18/01/2012 20:20

It doesn't always get better after 6wks. I had excruciating nipple pain ONLY during feeding with DS and DD, even though I had my latch/position checked and was treated for various BF-related conditions (nothing was wrong and nothing made a difference). I was told to keep feeding and it would get better (BTW, imagine your nipples being hacked off with blunt sacateurs) but I had to stop BF at 4.5m or I would have thrown myself under a train to get away from having to BF.

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NorthernWreck · 18/01/2012 21:10

Avenged: I think it's OK to stop if you hate it or it's really painful for a long time. 4.5 months is still really great, and you did what you could, so well done you.

NorthernWreck · 18/01/2012 21:11

I was, apparently, bottle fed from 3 months, and I'm fab Grin

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