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In search of a suitable British boarding school

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gorgiasencomium · 19/08/2023 23:27

My spouse - an American - and myself - a Belgian - have two children; a son who is 9 years old and a daughter who is 7. We live in Seattle, where our children attend a bilingual primary schools (French-English). Furthermore, our children master the Russian language quite well, as they have a Russian nanny.Personally, I wish to send them to a British boarding school, as I do not find the curriculum of American schools stimulating enough - there are, of course, some excellent boarding schools on the East Coast - and I refuse to have "all-American" children. Also, I was lucky enough to spend my secondary studies at a Dutch-speaking Jesuit college in Belgium - not a boarding school - , where intellectual stimulation was held in very high regard. But not enough in my eyes. That was due to the fact that our school, like almost all schools in Belgium, depended on the State's educational plans. Our school sometimes had problems with the administration, which felt that the curriculum was too advanced. One of the criticisms was, ridiculously, that we studied too much French literature and instead of debates, we should be practising short and everyday dialogues. So I would wish my children to be pushed to their limits on an intellectual level; I don't want them to be bored, as I was sometimes bored at school.Right now, we are looking at the options for our son. He is, though I say so myself, rather intelligent and curious. I remember that two years ago, he was reading a comic book from my childhood and read the following sentence, "Action, reaction." He asked me for an explanation, since he was not sure if he understood the meaning of it completely. I told him about Newton's laws and he got very excited. That whole evening he was trying to find examples/applications of those laws. Two things that intrigued him a lot recently: Fibonacci's row and the Battle of Stalingrad.He is also sporty; he swims, plays tennis and enjoys hiking and skiing in the mountains. He likes debating, but does not cope very well with losing an argument. Hopefully, this will paint a clear picture of what our expectations are and what kind of boy our son is.In our search for schools, we made the following list - for the moment:- Winchester College: In my career, I have met people who went to school there and seemed to have a fond memory of their time there. However, I have heard/read that the school is undergoing major change. The fact that girls are being integrated into the school does not really bother me, though of course it would be unfortunate if the school lost its identity as a result. Rather, what bothers me about the whole thing is the way the school has implemented this change, namely without discussion and as "un fait accompli". I also read about the fact that wokism is, apparently, taking an increasingly important role at the school. I fear that, despite my rather young age, I am a bit too old-fashioned there and consequently do not really find such an education desirable for my son. But of course, I don't know to what extent this is true.... Furthermore, I wondered what kind of students one finds there. Do they come from ordinary families or from very rich families, as is the case at Eton?

  • Eton College: The school with quite a reputation, but not necessarily the most positive one. That children do come well-off and privileged families does not bother me, but arrogance and ingratitude I do not consider, arrogance and ingratitude, as being enviable values. That's a bit of an image we have of Eton, but again, I don't know to what extent this is accurate.
  • Tonbrigde School: Students there are said to be more athletic and less intellectual than at Winchester, yet do they score better than Winchester as far as A-levels are concerned? Again, what kind of students does one find here?
  • Sevenoaks/Marlborough: Given that our son is not British, they might be a good fit for our son because of their international nature.
  • St. Paul's/Westminster: Given the small number of students boarding there, we don't think this is the appropriate choice.

You might wonder why I ask so much about the pupils' origins. This is because of my own experience at my high school: the students came from the rich and/or aristocratic families of my country. Many of their parents I knew through my parents, but I found that they, the children but also the parents, were often very disrespectful, condescending and arrogant.
Additionally, and this is something very Belgian or even linked to Brussels, the majority at this Dutch-speaking school were French-speaking. You had to choose your camp, which I found difficult as a bilingual who had grown up in both of these worlds. I always say that my school in itself was great, the students not so much. Such atmosphere, is not what I wish for my children.

Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions.

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Enriquetta · 20/08/2023 15:27

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 14:27

@Enriquetta In that case, I guess that there are a lot of insane parents in the world... There have always been children coming from China, Hong Kong,... to board in the UK. That's also the other side of the world.

Besides, American education is different from a European one. I have experienced that quite a lot, while living in the US.
Is it morally so wrong to want them to be educated in both worlds, in order to have a more balanced world view? I do know that my son enjoys his time in Europe; he says it each time when we come back home from the Old Continent.

I do appreciate the concern of all of you, but by asking a question on this forum I didn't do it to hear that I'm, allegedly, an insane person who wants to make the life of my children miserable. I just hoped to get information on some of the mentioned schools and of other schools.

Yes, those parents are insane too. Just because something always has been done does not make it right. Again if you’re desperate for your children not to be American send them to a British university.

Hoppinggreen · 20/08/2023 15:35

It’s morally wrong to send your child halfway across the world for no good reason in my opinion

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 15:44

@Enriquetta But what is, intrinsically, so wrong with boarding school? I know a lot of people who have really enjoyed their time there. I mean, you spend your education far from home - but you call your family regularly, see them from time to time during the different terms and spend your holidays with them - and are surrounded by friends and caring, erudite teachers. Is that so horrible? It can be, of course, in certain situations, but it doesn't have to be.

Furthermore, I believe that the recurrent abuse you had in some boarding schools, doesn't exist anymore.

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BCCoach · 20/08/2023 15:48

To answer your question about ‘ordinary families’, the vast majority of pupils at all these schools will come from extremely rich families. The boarding fees are nearly twice the median gross household income.

continentallentil · 20/08/2023 15:49

You need to find a school in the US until they are 16. The days of fire and forget are long gone - there are exeat weekends where most parents will see their kids. Obviously there are kids that come to the UK from Russia, China or the developing world, but that’s because there are no similar options there.

I’m guessing there will be an international flavoured boarding school to be found around NY, along with a dozen or more very good trad prep schools like Exeter.

I’m not anti boarding school at all, but not seeing your kids at all except for the holidays for no good reason is poor parenting in the extreme.

For 6th form (16-18) they could reasonably come to Europe

You could look at Atlantic colleges - there’s one in Wales but they are world wide

Sevenoaks, Christs Hospital, Oundle, Westminster, would all be good places for co-Ed 6th form. Marlborough is fashionable rather than v academic so knock that off.

I’m not sure Winchester or Eton do much in the way of 6th form only places, Wycombe Abbey (a very academic girls school) might do.

Seriously OP - do not send your kid across the Atlantic to school at 13

CurlewKate · 20/08/2023 16:02

@gorgiasencomium

Do you have family or friends in the UK who would take them on exeats or deal with any emergencies?

LIZS · 20/08/2023 16:05

Would also add Wellington College and Kings Canterbury into the coed list. Or the Round Square group www.roundsquare.org/our-schools/ although perhaps not all as academically rigorous.

Dabralor · 20/08/2023 16:08

Would you not miss them?
I could never send my children across the world just for intellectual stimulation.

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 16:21

@CurlewKate Well, like I said I'm Belgian and my parents and sister still live there. My parents own a holiday home on the Isle of Wight, where they spend a few months each year. Thus, they could pick him up for exeats. They could also eat together on Sunday. Or, he could even go to Belgium during an exeat.

A very good friend of us lives in London and could take care of him in case of an emergency.

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Enriquetta · 20/08/2023 16:26

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 15:44

@Enriquetta But what is, intrinsically, so wrong with boarding school? I know a lot of people who have really enjoyed their time there. I mean, you spend your education far from home - but you call your family regularly, see them from time to time during the different terms and spend your holidays with them - and are surrounded by friends and caring, erudite teachers. Is that so horrible? It can be, of course, in certain situations, but it doesn't have to be.

Furthermore, I believe that the recurrent abuse you had in some boarding schools, doesn't exist anymore.

Others have said it all, it is morally wrong to send your child halfway across the world in pursuit of some nebulous idea of academic stimulation, which I don’t even think these schools offer in the way you imagine. I know people who have been to all these boarding schools you mention they’re not exactly Plato.

It’s not about physical abuse, it’s about what it does psychologically to a developing child to be far away from its parents for absolutely no good reason. I’ve seen the damage boarding school has had on my husband and his brother, who did have a good/ish reason to go to boarding school.

as others have also said, you are probably a bot anyway, so maybe that is why you can’t understand why this is nuts

Hoppinggreen · 20/08/2023 16:27

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CurlewKate · 20/08/2023 16:32

So grandparents on the Isle of Wight for a couple of months a year and an aunt in Belgium.

Oh.

LIZS · 20/08/2023 16:32

It is quite a distance from IOW to the schools you list. Not so practical for a quick lunch or sport event. If you have noone consistently nearby to cover exeats and emergencies you would be expected to employ a guardian. What do you hope to get out of a UK education which cannot be achieved elsewhere?

Els1e · 20/08/2023 16:44

Sherborne or the one at Southampton, I think King Edwards? The one Rishi Sunak went too

CurlewKate · 20/08/2023 16:45

@LIZS Don't forget the aunt in Belgium.....

LIZS · 20/08/2023 16:57

Rishi went to Winchester!

Mombas · 20/08/2023 17:15

As a past parent of Winchester I hope this is a fake post. I think it is ,or perhaps the OP really wants to send his son halfway across the world to a school with no pastoral care and a history of cover ups....

Hopefully it's not written by someone from Winchester College.

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 17:16

@Mombas Could you tell me more about the lack of pastoral care?

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Netaporter · 20/08/2023 17:29

@gorgiasencomium you need to read the forums on mumsnet thoroughly. And listen. You are quite correct there are a number of insane overseas parents who sent their kids to uk boarding schools for no discernible reason, I know, one of my kids goes to school with a lot of them and most of them attended one or more of the schools listed upthread. I also see the effect on the kids. When there is a play and two music recitals in a week there are the same local parental faces and the same disappointed kids looking into the audience for a familiar face. There are none. As I said, boarding school has its place for children of the armed forces, both parents working unpredictable hours, those relocating country constantly, the bereaved and the divorced. If you are not any of these, you need to consider the effect your decisions might have on your children’s future mental health. I’ve seen what it does first hand and it is not pretty.

Dabralor · 20/08/2023 17:37

@Enriquetta ditto my husband. He's a complex soul and the dynamic he has with his parents is very damaged to this day.

Are you sure this is what your child wants, OP?

It can be the most intellectually stimulating school in the world, but if he's not happy then he won't be in the frame of mind to learn anything.

gorgiasencomium · 20/08/2023 18:01

It's true that we, the parents, have long days and are absent quite often, hence the nanny. Often, I have to flight across the US, as does my spouse. Therefore, we believed that a boarding school might be a good option. The intention is, in no way, to create a bad or worse, toxic relationship with our children.

I mean, as every parent, we wish only the best for them, to be happy, confident,...
But, my understanding was that boarding schools, in the UK, had undergone a metamorphosis; i.e., that they're not anymore the schools described in the song "The Wall". So, it worries me a bit to read that pastoral care at a school like Winchester College seems to be nonexistent.

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TheShellBeach · 20/08/2023 18:08

Or you could parent him yourself

Yes, there's a radical idea, OP.

TheCyclingGorilla · 20/08/2023 18:10

This is such a bad idea. I don't think a British private boarding education should be seen as the bastion of excellence. There are plenty of mediocre private schools around. Also, Eton doesn't have any ordinary families OP. You have to be in a significant wage bracket to afford to go anywhere Private in the UK. Your son won't be meeting the children of ordinary families at all. Only ones with pots of money.

As for sending him around the world...no! He'll thrive much better if his family, ie Mum, Dad, Sister could see him at weekends. I wonder if Harry Potter has had too much influence in this idea. Your son might find it ok to begin with but he'll be so far away from family he might feel homesick, or abandoned, over time.

There are good private schools in the USA. Ones that would suit your child. The East Coast especially has good ones, as you say, I think your wife is right...try there first!

HawaiiWake · 20/08/2023 18:12

One friend in London, this is not going to work. Firstly, there are a lot of parental events and forms to fill out in a timely manner. Is your friend single or married? If married husband, would his wife have the bandwidth to jump in? Would they be busy with their family life? Would their work load allow them to sort out all the guardianship issues?
Check which boarding schools empty out in the weekends, Sat after sport and back on Sunday. You don’t want to have your DC and only a few pupils left behind.
The support structure for 13 years old is more extensive than Sixth Form so at 16+ boarding if your kid wants to and it would be for 2 years.

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