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[EchoNan]

Not a TAAT. The issues are wider than that.

Yet again on here, I've seen the attempted derailing of a mother's thread about her child.

When we talk about challenges we have, ploppers turn up trying to close debates down.

This small part of MN came into being against much opposition. Huff and puff all they like, these eeijts are not going to blow our BMN house down.

I thought I'd post here for BMN to share views. Even when it's pointed out that here is a safe space, that it is Black Mumsnet, still we have deliberate attempts to undermine.

I haven't posted this in Site Stuff, for it to be swamped by other voices, I'm thinking. perhaps, have a discussion here first.

Should BMN not show up in "Active " for example? Or is that counter productive? Any other suggestions?

Thoughts welcome.

I hope your ds settles well into his new school. Does he know anyone already there that he could meet up with over the summer to give him more confidence?

Regarding the state of various threads, I e said it before and I’ll say it again, I think the moderating needs to be far more inclusive. Blimey- even I would have a turn at doing it!

I also think that the posting should not be allowed for three months after joining should apply. I didn’t know MN could do that.

I do agree to a point with the poster who said about the SN being a ghost town- however if you have an interest in a topic then you can find it. I lurk quite a bit on the SN topics and post sporadically but that’s because it’s linked to my work and I have and interest/ connection with it. If something is linked to you you’ll find it so it wouldn’t need to be in “active”.

Sorry the new school bit was to @Lndnmummy

I wonder if a group of us could arrange to meet with mnhq to discuss moderation (and a bunch of other stuff). I’ve raised some questions with them which didn’t really get anywhere but perhaps it’s worth trying again? Perhaps it’s possible as a sit down and work out a way forward. I got two separate and very supportive emails from moderators and it was clear they genuinely tried to help. They did help, their moderating was really active so much so that I didn’t see many of the deleted posts (luckily probably as it was all very raw). The post with the actual sticker is deleted now. I didn’t request that I just asked to remove some other images on there that was added by accident. I don’t mind that though as the sticker is offensive and I wouldn’t want to offend anyone else. I’m all for a debate but I made it so clear last night, over and over that I did not want to debate. I asked only for people who could relate to comment. It was a thread about a child. It’s just so shit that people can’t show empathy or just leave alone. There was great support too which I’m thankful for. All the teachers, staff, governors etc who messaged. I also got PMs from parents and school staff that told they’d raised it with their schools today to make sure nothing like that would happen there. How wonderful is that.

Thanks for everyone's input on here.

Just to let you know that @MNHQ emailed me earlier. They've been following the thread, and all the suggestions/discussion.

They'll be commenting here on the thread in due course.
So watch this space......

@EchoNan my favourite mumsnetter

Great @EchoNan, thank you for doing the heavy lifting here. I’ve lost my mojo abit so thank you for driving.

Hi all, and thanks for your thoughts so far.

We've been discussing what might be the best way forward and reading the thread with interest.

Several posters raise important and thoughtful points that we are considering with regards to our moderation.

The Black Mumsnetters section is for black Mumsnetters and there’s a reasonable expectation that it should be a space to discuss common experiences without anyone having to explain themselves. We're mindful of that, and moderate with that front of mind.

We're always happy to discuss changing the way we moderate particular boards, particularly those that are susceptible to trolling or need safeguarding for other reasons.

At the moment, there are some good ideas on how to make the section more useful to posters - we're very interested to hear more.

It looks like some of the most popular ideas might be to not have BMN appear in Active and to limit when people can post (as we do with the Sex topic) so we're particularly interested to see what people think about these, but we're open to other ideas too. (As a few posters mentioned upthread - taking a discussion/area out of Active can have negative effects too - fewer people will see it and fewer will post).

While we’ve no plans to take the board out of Active right now, we’ll review this idea for the future.

Once we've got some more views, we'll have a chat in the MN virtual office about what might be most useful and workable.

@MichaelMumsnet
Well, so far, it seems that no one has more to add, than has already been said.

Outside of BMN over the last few days, there is some real dog whistle racism going on, "within guidelines". Good to see that it is challeneged by so many Mumsnetters.

I'm not saying everyone has to think the same, but BMN needs some way of sifting out the deliberate "squatting" that has been going on within this Board.

BMN is not AIBU, but, some see it as a "rent a racist" opportunity (as we have seen.)

When I've reported stuff, it's been dealt with really quickly.
What bothers me, is having to constantly press "report" with a goady pile on, whilst another BMNetter is trying to get sensible advice or opinions.

I don't want a genuine new BMNetter having to wait before they can post on here. For example, if there is an issue for DC at school.

It's a bit rock and hard place for sure.

I hope that the mods can come up with something that works for BMN.

I’m not black but many of my much loved family are. Safe spaces are important. I would be ok with reading without responding and reporting any racist posts if it would be useful.