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[EchoNan]

Not a TAAT. The issues are wider than that.

Yet again on here, I've seen the attempted derailing of a mother's thread about her child.

When we talk about challenges we have, ploppers turn up trying to close debates down.

This small part of MN came into being against much opposition. Huff and puff all they like, these eeijts are not going to blow our BMN house down.

I thought I'd post here for BMN to share views. Even when it's pointed out that here is a safe space, that it is Black Mumsnet, still we have deliberate attempts to undermine.

I haven't posted this in Site Stuff, for it to be swamped by other voices, I'm thinking. perhaps, have a discussion here first.

Should BMN not show up in "Active " for example? Or is that counter productive? Any other suggestions?

Thoughts welcome.

A work colleague told me that she might be overweight, but at least she didn't look as bad as I did! grin

No way! What on earth did you reply to that? I'd be so shocked I wouldn't say anything. Then I'd seethe and fume for days. Then let rip.

Hmmmmmm I did exactly what you say you would have done.
I couldn't believe my ears at the time and then went doo lally at her the next day. Then she was in tears and it was all my fault, you know the script....

@EchoNan

Hmmmmmm I did exactly what you say you would have done. I couldn't believe my ears at the time and then went doo lally at her the next day. Then she was in tears and it was all my fault, you know the script....

Yes, I certainly do 🙄

@NoYOUbekind Good suggestion.
At least one of the goady so and so's had been here quite a while though. Not everyone's a troll. Some people, let's face it, are just racist arses.

Right, I'm off to bed now as up early.
Take it easy out there

@EchoNan

Right, I'm off to bed now as up early. Take it easy out there

Night! X

The thing which annoys me is the way MN is quick to shut down threads in BMN, so that they don't upset the majority users

Why bother having BMN if they're not going to allow the people it was designed for provide each other with the support we would like???

Good suggestions @NoYOUbekind

Can someone link the thread please as I have no idea what this is about ? Thanks

I'm white. Hope it's OK to post... I do click on threads on here when they come up in active. I have mixed race nieces and equality is really important to me. So I find the threads helpful to read.

But wouldn't post as I don't think it's my space. It is supposed to be a safe space and it's fair enough that for that to happen that does exclude some people.

If it didn't appear in active people who need it might not find it though. So could a warning appear on the posting box, similar to one which appears on old threads?

In the meantime I'll report any shitty coomenta and continue not to post (obvs this exception). Just also wanted to give my support to let people who use the space know the whole of mumsnet isn't full of awful twats. Xx

Maybe you need to do the quick fire yes or no test that Joey did to Chandler to draw out the truth from newbies:

Blue or Red?
Cat or dog?
Monica or Rachel?
BLM or ALM?

Please can someone private message be the link to the thread. TIA.

me*

@Smokeymirror

Can someone link the thread please as I have no idea what this is about ? Thanks

It was deleted

Seconding @neondisco 's post.

I also hope that whatever decision you make (whether that is hiding from Active, or having a 30 day block, or something else, or if you decide that you don't want to make a change) that MNHQ fully support the decision and become much stricter on bad faith/trolls/racists/unpleasant twats invading the space.

Smokeymirror the thread has been taken down now at the OP's request.
@NeonDisco thanks for your support. Your nieces have a good aunt in you I'm sure. We've tried putting a reference to the threads being from BMN. It doesn't stop the haters who like to stir trouble.
It's a great help if you report stuff.
MN isn't full of arses I agree, there are some great people here on MN like yourself x

I’m not black, but I’m a primary school governor, and I just want to reiterate what I said on the thread which was that what Lndnmummy described was absolutely inappropriate in a school setting. Any setting obvs; but the school should for good practice have a publicly available equality and diversity policy (on their website or similarly available to all parents), which should contain some explicit detail about what they are doing to prevent both direct and indirect discriminatory experiences and resources in the school. I probably wouldn’t immediately go to the governors - unless you have to - but you should definitely see the Head (and speak fo the class teacher and also explain you’ll be speaking to the Head so s/he isn’t surprised). Items like that should definitely not be in the school. (Have a look on the website to see if you can pull up their equality and diversity documentation; if they have a policy online that may be particularly useful when you speak to them and you can point to exact places where it’s been contravened).

I’m really sorry your DS experienced that. It’s not acceptable under any circumstances. I’m really sorry too that a support thread which many people were keen to help on was derailed.

Lndnmummy
I belatedly saw your thread and commented on it, but my comment didn't go through as the thread was closed.

There were some disgraceful responses to you on there. I'm so sorry you don't feel safe and I do hope situation with your son was resolved.

I hope you stay on BMN

I don't look in here often enough. I will do so more from now on. We'll just have to support each other more, won't we?

I don't think BMN should show up in Active

Sorry, I missed some posts, thanks for your input. It takes me ages to write as I have a disability.. Often it's the next day before I finally press post message (not quite ha ha)
Lessthanaballpark
You are defo onto something there.

echoNan it isn’t so much about awful people, just people who think their experience or advice is relevant, when it isn’t. Although some are just awful!

I would never presume my experience would be relevant to a post in this subtopic unless it was specifically asked for (hoping you can exclude this one!!!) and I think most white people would see the topic and butt out.

BUT- there are those that don’t notice the topic, and those who don’t give a shit and think it’s ok to post anywhere regardless of their experience. The latter are probably your problem.

I hope you can solve this.

That thing’s disgusting and christ it’s unbelievably hideous too. Definitely take it straight to the Head with a copy of their equality policy. Anyone with any sense can see giving that thing to a young black child to wear is disgraceful.

(By anyone with any sense I was thinking about the posters on the previous thread btw!!)

(Am a white MNetter) That sticker is awful Lndn - it would be humiliating and crushing for a black child to wear it. I didn’t see the now deleted thread but you’re completely justified in being devastated.

That sticker is not acceptable in this day and age to be giving out, but to present that to a black or mixed race child shows a serious lack of care, or understanding from the school. The governors of the school need to be aware of this as well I think. They have to understand why certain changes are needed, like no handing out of stickers containing monkey images full stop. Of course follow the correct steps as you have been advised.