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BESH BABYWIN STATS

This isn't a fucking list - right?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April 12

UPDIFFED
FannyPriceless, her pelvis went menkul, due June 14
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, hospital botherer due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November
ReginaMonologue, must-get-the-goss-from-ski, due November 20

boxer/silver/carrots Thank you, I think all I can really do when it comes down to it is do what me & jailbait feel comfortable with. If the baby ain't blue it's all good.

okie Yes, I'd forgotten that - that was the reason she gave for not having a bottle - that the baby wouldn't be able to understand a nipple. But I want to be able to do exactly as you've suggested - express and let Julian get used to dad feeding him because once I'm back at work he's going to have to be familiar with the routine and not throw a blue fit just because jailbait's waving a bottle in his face. Never mind I might fancy a night out with the girls/long ride or anything else like that.

boxer That's really funny about your friend! I do understand that some people are going to need more help than others managing basic day-to-day tasks - but, dare I blow my own trumpet? I'm pretty fucking capable of anything - sugar plum fairy dance excepted. I've had my own animals for nearly 10 years now and only killed one dog. And one cat ran away from home. But that aside my success rate runs at 67%.

ski You need to get (LOL I'm going to deliberatly write my advice that way from now on) expert advice from a breastfeeding counsellor if you want to bottle and breastfeed because it can all go horribly wrong and baby can refuse the breast once he's used to a bottle.

Or it can be really easy. LC took both from about 2 weeks (I fed him his reflux medication from a bottle) - never got confused, bless him.

But personally I wouldn't want to risk just giving him a bottle without advice as I would be worried about him stopping BFing.

Today I have done some pleasing work and finished it off and dispatched it, so my conscience is clear. Then I washed and hung out all my baby clothes that are not organic and they are now flapping dry in the sunshine. Then I sat out for 40 mins in the garden with a book and it is scorchio and this is truly The Life

Rots the only problem cases I have seen is where poeple haven't introduced the bottle early enough. I didn't like breatfeeding in public so getting mini c to take a bottle of expressed milk was really important to me. I still fed to 6 months but was restricted to always having to have somewhere private to do it but I still did it and didn't give up just because of my own social hangups. As Ski says it would be difficult to return to work and not have the baybee take a bottle! Having the flexibility of offering a bottle of expressed milk on ocassions and boob the others was a Godsend for me. Anyway, each to their own.

Cunty you day sound perfect. A lovely jug of Pimms would ust top it off huh?

I'm with okie on this one. It's not a case of me wanting to confuse the baby on day 2 with a bottle - but I want him to accept boob or bottle without drama. And, eventually accept bottle from jailbait without drama.

VAG There's a thread on Baby Names right up your street.

An ex colleague told me that if you have big tits generous frontage then it can be harder to bf.

So, who would care to enlighten me?

VAG I can kick your arse with late night stories for last night I was in bed at 1.45am... having got home at 1am and then had full on cry-a-thon due to tiredness i expect I did go to a musical and then out to dinner you see.

cossie yay for your years and your appt

reggie I hope you are ok - and lurking?

and for everyone else (especially poo) BUMSEX

I'm going to echo cunty and share the fact that I am writing to you from the garden, under a parasol, surrounded by freebies aquired via Emma's Dairy and Bounty packs I scavenged picked up earlier today during an epic adventure in town, during which I overheated and got the hunger shakes so ended up in Pizza Hut scoffing buffet on my ownsome

I have (i think) bought everything to get me/SFF/house prepped for the big event - even an extra double duvet for the futon in the nursery, as it will serve as a bedroom when grandparents arrive en masse to dog sit and generally hold my/SFF's hands. Couldn't find any newborn cup-feeding cups though. Will have to ask MW about them.

pissed off with lack of available bra sizes in store at mothercare. I don't want a fucking black one in this weather!

And while I am moaning, is it too soon to use the parent and child spaces? Or can preggos at least be disabled? That way I might have got a spot in the shade and closer to the shops instead on hobblign in the heat.

Hiccups here last night too (being a hardened Jock, I find the word hiccoughs very "quaint" but I know it's just a southern thing, I think). At one point I was being naughty, with the dog draped across me on the sofa. Her heart was pounding on my leg and baby was pounding me from inside and I felt like a bloody timebomb about to explode in front of Doctor Who (being a geek and watching it all from the start of the modern Dr, Mr Eccleston on TV on Demand).

Congrats on the anniversary and the scan cos! Have no idea on HBs, but if yours if a girl, I have plenty of clothes to pass on!

Come back reggie!

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soz about the wailathon iggy. Is not fun. What did you see? I can't imagine sitting in the cinema at the mo never mind the theatre - well done!

Generous frontage not a problem here...

I have ample breastage and found I had to hold boob in one hand and baby in the other to get good feeding position so imo yes, more difficult for those gifted with big tits generous boobage. I always felt ripped off that I didn't have a spare hand to hold a remote control let alone a book and the ability to turn a page while feeding!

I will master it this time though!

For those with perfectly formed neat buzzums then you should be able to feed while on the phone and preparing a three course meal all at the same time.

hurrah for no small boobs for once!

Drat. Can see it now! So big tits ample bazzokas do not equal easy multi tasking.

Will have to get the slave husband to get me an aqualung prepared in readiness. Shall of course contain 2/3 gin. Neat gin would just be too chavtastic.

My second question of the day - wot books for preggos? WHSmiths have got an offer on. One book was a day by day pregnancy book - quite cool. Husband will like. Or do I go for the MN guide !?

You bitches have just ruined my day. Two handed bfing it is then. No wonder wimminz turn to bottles...

silver I think reggie has the day-by-day one. cunty is a fan of the mn one. I have the "practical parenting magazine" one.

ski don't fret - my mum had no trouble and managed one handed and she is similarly proportioned to me in the oversize tit department... There must be a way!

caspy I saw Priscilla - and it was ok cos is only about an hour to sit still - then get up for interval and wander around - then another hour... cinema I couldn't cope with... I am also v. starving at the mo - so can quite imagine doing a pizza hut buffet

Ski you are used to handling a hoss. I boob and a baybee must be well easy in comparison!

Silver I have the "what to expect when you are expecting" one and the "what to expect the first year" one.

Thx for info. Will ponder. The " what to expect " is an American book? Did have a test read of it and quite liked it.

Wonder if any chance of blagging cheaper one off eBay? Hmmmmmm

Silver I don't think it feels too American. Maybe it has been slightly adapted for UK audience??!

ooh pizza hut buffet

I had full roast pork dinner at lunch, and we are off for mexican at Las Iguanas tonight.

Did someone mention food?

cos Mmm, me want roast pork too. Yes, I know it's v hot, but us preggos can eat what we want, surely?

DD is better. She came home from hospital late last night with a truckload of new meds which she's not too keen on, but seems none the worse for the scare. She even brought home some art work which she had painted with the student nurses while there!

ski You probably won't use the sleeping bag right from the very start, maybe after a few weeks depending on how big Julian is. DD was swamped by hers to start with. And besides, she was sleeping on me anyway with just a light blanket/wrap draped around as needed. Used one of those fine merino organic ones. (Shock! Not cotton.) Then she was swaddled. Then sleeping bag. And every baby/parent is different! Go with what seems right to you at the time.

Breastfeeding - I didn't get any help and it was fine. I just did what it said in the leaflet we got at NCT class. Most important thing is the baby needs to get really a giant mouthful. The entire nipple plus a whole lot more. Bring the baby towards the breast with nose at nipple height, wait til it opens its mouth super wide then make the connection. I have DD/E breasts and once latched could even manage with no hands at times, or fine with just one. But I am an expert pillow arranger.

boxy at your friend!!

cossie Happy anniversary. I think heartbeat below 150 means boy, above means girl. So you're having...

silver We have the what to expect first year, and toddler books. Get the UK adapted versions - still a little bit American, but mostly just useful neutral-ish information. Medical section very good.

This hospital bag packing malarky is a nightmare. I seem to just be shoving piles of stuff around the spare bedroom... [blush}

Silver, I have what to expect , the MN one and a Miriam Stoppard () one. I like the variation.

Glad BabyFan is home and well fanny.

iggy good news on the 32 week scan, the fasting sounds like a complete PITA though, I suspect I'll have to go through a smiliar trauma when I have my glucose tolerence test, because you know they've deemed me suitable for gestational diabetes dontcha know...

boxy glad that your consultant seems to appreciate the concept of the patient is always right, too few and far between those gems are I tell you! And I wouldn't worry about the toxic chicken mite mutant spray, 2 heads are better than one right?

fanny I commend your acceptance of your mum helping out. Mine has offered much the same but I'm still in the "well we've not decided what to do yet" camp when she brings it up. Much as I love her to bits she can be a bit over bearing and although I relish the idea of having her her to help out I pretty sure she'd unitentionally push OH to one side, and I really want him to get comfortable with handling the baby on his own and for him to use his own initiative... me too for that matter! And I hope that t'other babe is now doing well after her asthma incident.

swits they might not have been farts you were mistaking for baby bubbles - I've had a few odd "eh!?!" moments that I can't contribute to farts or muscle doing something odd, so I've helpfully decided to myself that they were in fact baby punches or something similar... I did read somewhere though that depending on where your placenta is situated you'd be less likely to feel anything yet if it's at the front of the uterus... no idea if that is accurate or not though...

curls baby names, I've mooted a few here and there to others and have just been bombarded with things like "well have you thought of..." or "what do you think of..." or "you know your great grand father was called Winstibal, wouldn't it be nice to..." so from now on I'm keeping quiet to everyone, esp. family. I have a list, it will come to the hospital and one will be chosen once the baybee pops out (cos they do that right, just slip out if someone pats me on the back hard enough...?) ski I fully remit the baby name rights to you o/c - I know you can give a mean left hook when you need to Oh, and btw curls I'd not kick Alonso out of bed for eating biscuits for sure, though I suspect I'd break Button quite easily

okie TMI comment regarding odourous regions... I too have noticed this (not yours obvioulsy by something closer to home.. though I'm reliably informed by MW that it's normal provided it doesn't smell like landfill.... and yes I'm here! Just lurking conspicously and keeping my mind busy with all sorts of rubbish for the run up to Friday... do you think buying a new car may have been a step too far in the "what can I do next that distracts me from the impending needle of torture..."?

ski soz to hear Julian didn't play ball at the scan, though I like the idea of stimulants before the next one... got anything other than caffine in mind ? I'm with you on the health visitor meeting you had, I am much weary myself of people proffering advice, why can't we just be left to get on with it like we did when we woz all apes n' shit innit?

rots glad that you had a super holiday, I'm contemplating a trip to greece in a month or so, because obviously the hottest time of the year is the most suitable for a preggo to visit, but kinda looking forward to getting away!

silver I has the Day by Day pregnancy guide, or something similarly entitled. It's quite good because you get to read something new every day and has lots of pictures, I'd recommend it!

all Thank you for wondering where I was, I've been around but in more of a voyuer role rather than participant... not something I'm familiar with but I'm sure you'll all understand why. In any event, the big day looms, and although I'm still nervous about the procedure I've accepted it now and have become quite logical about it all and have taken a very positive stance in trying to create a healthy and optimistic view about the results and the associated risks. It's taken quite a bit of energy though and in fairness I think I look at the world a bit differently than I did 2 weeks ago, and it's probably a change for the better if I'm honest. Oooh listen to me going all Ghandi on you... I'll shut up for now!

I've even started to look at baby things to buy again, and managed to waste 2 hours on ETSY today looking at vintage baby clothes... some of the stuff is so cute and not like anything you'd get in the shops so I've book marked a few pages ready to click the buy now button when the time is right! Much as I'm a novice knitter, and will probably do a sampler blanket or something similar my skills are not up to creating something as cool as what I could buy elsewhere so I'll take the advice of the shopaholic in me for now and brace the credit card for some serious burn in a fortnight or so! What is this Ravelry place you knitters speak of, it sounds like a good place to go!

Anyway, I really hope all you ladies are doing well and thanks again for your thoughts, nothing like a slap in the face or slab of brie to get one back on their feet... .

Hooray for reggie, good to have you back

I've just found a greenfly in my ear