**August 2010** Part 6!! Starting to show with gusto now ladies.

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Thread 6.

You lot talk too much.....

Happy chatting

cazzy you are now approximately 26 weeks pregnant (based on me being 25 weeks and due on 7th August!) I think our current official check should be around the 25 week mark - I have my appointment on Tuesday....

Maybe your midwife can try and fit you in this week if you haven't already seen her in the last couple of weeks....

morning.

cazzy I am due aug 4th (they go by scan dates) and on wednesday I'll be 26 weeks. The last midwife apt was at 24 wks.

Hi all,

Sorry I've been so absent for the last few days. I very foolishly got caught up in an AIBU thread, which sucked me in and took up all my MN time!! Plus DH is working like a slave at the moment, so it's quite rare for me to get on the internet at the weekend. Couldn't believe that this thread had even fallen off my 'I'm on' list .

Cazzy on your question, I agree with CazEm that you're about 26 weeks, but your MW might not want to see you yet because it's not your first pg. Round here, the 25 week check is one of the ones you miss on your 2nd+ baby. I saw the MW just after my 20 week scan, and they don't want to see me again until 28 weeks. Depends how straightforward your previous pregnancies were, though.

LCR just wanted to say that I really feel for you. I had a serious wobble just before my wedding (all DH's fault, though I won't go into it ) and had a genuine moment of wondering whether to call it off. It sounds ridiculous, but part of the reason I didn't was because of the sheer embarrassment of cancelling a big, expensive wedding a few weeks before the day . Anyway, 5 years later I can't believe I almost made that decision - we're very happy and have been since day one. I agree that it sounds like your DH is just sowing a few pre-wedding oats (of a sort). I'd say that if you had no doubts about the wedding until recently, then it's probably just last minute nerves.

All's ok here, though I'm beginning to feel slightly sorry for myself, TBH. Now I'm nearly in the 3rd trimester, the physical ailments are beginning to kick in. I'm sleeping dreadfully (up from 4 or 5am most mornings), getting sciatica twinges and just starting to get that uncomfortable-moving-around feeling. Nothing really serious, but just enough to make my heart sink slightly when I think about the next couple of months. Hey ho. Just have to remember that I get a lovely baby at the end of it .

Bit cloudy and chilly here today, but looks like it's going to be a lovely week ahead - 23 degrees by Wednesday . And I had a lovely weekend, in spite of my whinging - lovely sunny picnic with old friends in Greenwich Park on Saturday, and loads of gardening with DS yesterday.

Morning girls!

Well done cazem for finishing your essay! Woop woop!

LCR honey, you poor thing - it's tough being pregnant when you don't think you dp understands or is being empathetic. I had this with my dh when pregnant with ds. I just didn't feel like he was interested, convinced myself that I was a burden and he would never love our baby. But in the end, he was just trying to cope with all the stress of selling the flat, buying a new flat, having to move into rented accommodation to break the chain blah blah blah all on his own. he didn't want me to feel any of the stress he was feeling, so just withdrew completely. Needless to say, it all worked out in the end!

I had a lovely weekend with lots of fresh air, picnics, BBQs and time at the allotment but feel mighty peeved to be back at work today. Tempted to bring my mat leave forward a week, but worried about the financial implications. Hey ho. And no seat on the train AGAIN this morning.

Can't believe I'm only a week away from the third trimester though - this second trimester has flown by soooooo quickly! Better start thinking about names dh is being rubbish and keeps suggesting ridiculous names. I need some inspiration!

Have a great Monday everyone!

Thanks for the support ladies - he really is the greatest guy but I think being a man he is concentrating on more "practical" stuff like plumbing in the dishwasher and plastering the walls whereas soppy old me wants a walk on the beach and one-on-one time. He is very generous with hugs though! But yes we have a lot goign on - wedidng in under 3 weeks, baby, new house in a state of disrepair and both have very demanding jobs. I'm sure once house is in a better state and I no longer have this high-pressure job, we'll find our new groove as doting parents....

Back - need to sort, goign to find me a physio!

Hi girls!

Long time no speak....;-) Gosh I have missed so much.....:-( I have been on holidays then work and moving the new house and then again holidays and now I am back...!! Finally!

I had my scan and didn't share that lovely news with you yet....I am expecting a little Angel GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My first baby and its a girl...and I was so convinced its going to be a boy it was great surprise ;-)

I cant believe how quickly time goes...and we nearly in 3rd trimester! Its my 26 week and enjoying every moment of it...even tho my back is starting to hurt so much and these restless legs... I have my midwife appointment today for double check up....

Did you girls started signing up for antennal classes? I have received a letter from NCT blimey the course cost 300 quid!! So expensive....Do you have any ideas about maybe cheaper ones?

Hope all mummies are good...and I will be here more often now..finally :P xx

Have a great day

Morning girls, well I'm on for a whinge I've had terrible leg cramps/aches and buttock pain through the night for the past month and (typically of me) I have just ignored it and put up with broken sleep. But last night and the night before I must have only managed about 3 hours sleep in total, and that was in 15 minute bursts because if I stay in the same position for more than that I wake up in agony.

So I am trying to see my GP but that is proving a nightmare because they say they are only taking 'emergencies' on a daily basis and that 'routine appts' can only be made 1 week ahead. I can't face a whole week of no sleep and pain but they do not class my problem as an emergency. I mean, what are you supposed to do?

Can I just go straight to an osteopath/physiotherapist (I have absolutely no idea about medical stuff since I never go to the docs etc.) Last time I went with my heartburn he said he 'wasn't an expert on pregnant women' and had to look through a book and make 3 phone calls, then call me back 4 hours later just to prescribe me some bloody antacids... So I am feeling a bit desperate and so tired I could just cry. So if anyone knows whether I can just go straight to someone other than the GP who will no doubt be useless, please let me know!!

Sorry to come on here, unload and run - I'm at work and have a lot of picking and packing to do today so limited computer time - my back won't be thanking me for that either but I have to get the weekend orders out for all the lucky people that need swimsuits for their holidays in the sun.

Hi everyone. Welcome back YummymummyK sounds like you've been busy.

Vix that's ridiculous that you have to wait for a whole week to see a doctor. I would say the prospect of w week with very little sleep when your pregnant is an emergency!

Just got back from my MW appointment. All is well and get to here the heart beat again.

A cloudy day here today but at least it's not raining.

Off to stay with family for a few days on Wednesday. Very much looking forward to some creature comforts such as a bath (only have a shower as in the middle of renovation works) and also not going to miss the ladder climb up to bed!

Happy Monday everyone!

Oh and I finally got myself a swimming costume. Got it from ebay, BNWT from Mothercare for £7 including postage so not bad.

yummymummy you had two holidays I'm Congrats on the baby girl! DH and I did the NHS antenatal at the hospital last time, they were pretty good.

LCR hope you have a lovely week and forget all your worries

cazzy I just had my 27/8 week appointment, first one since 21 weeks and they've booked me in for the 32 week check-up in four weeks' time. You do get less on subsequent babies!

CazEm well done on finishing the essay!! [pops champagne cork]

I'm so far avoiding a lot of 3rd trimester woes, I've always got back ache due to a previous injury so it gets worse but I'm sort of used to it iykwim. Sleeping's crap anyway because DD is up so often so I haven't noticed that The only thing is that whenever I bend down I get a surge of heartburn and I'm always bending down to sort DD out! And of course the obligatory huff whenever I stand up/sit down but that's mostly for show I feel very large already though and am dreading the next 3 months' growth!

I wish it was Friday, I'm missing DH today...
What are people having for lunch?

yummymummy fab news on your Girl,

vix the number for the physio should be at the back of your notes, my midwife told me just to phone whenever I liked. It took 2 weeks to get me an appointment but better booking now and getting one than waiting. I found it really helpful and actually slept really well for the first time in weeks!! yippee!!

LCRLCR I had the weeks before your wedding are so full of emotion, and I had many a grumble about my DH, even right up till the wedding, (when he was running about getting drunk with his mates whilst I was running about sorting things for the wedding!). On the day I didn't feel any of this at all, just so glad that we were getting married, had such a lovely day. So anyway all I'm saying is don't worry, It's a stressfull and emotional time the weeks before a wedding, let alone being pregnant too! you will have a fabulous day and all your worries at the moment will seem like 1 million miles away, so chin up my luv

Thanks mrsZaC I'll have a look at my notes when I get home, I don't remember seeing anything like that. If it was just backache I could cope but this is agonising cramps that go from my waist down to my toes, you just can't sleep through them unfortunately I have left it too long, should have got it sorted earlier...

no problem vix sounds horrible! Maybe try phoning your midwife and saying that you can't get a doctors appointment for week?

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vix sorry, xposted. I'd ring up the GPs and ask for a cancellation if you don't have a number, I don't have a physio number on my notes. Definitely hassle them though, if you've got cramps/back pain that's stopping you sleeping you need to see someone. If needs be cry down the phone that might buy you some sympathy!

Thanks - I'll try and book a midwife appointment in the nesxt couple of weeks.

I am also going to have one of those 4D scans - so needed to know for that.
I am so hopeless.

I have just walked past dd1 crying (she attends the school I teach at - she never gets upset!!!) It was girl trouble - girls can be si horrid. I feel all upset for her now

AND I have a 2 punctures on my bike and had to drive to work which is double because the sun was out this morning but now is a bit cold AND whilst I am moaning I have a huge spot - ahhhhh. Can my day get any worse? (well actually the answer is yes but hopefully not!!!!)

Hey girls, sounds like you all had lovely weekends

We had thunder and lightening yesterday . Was still very hot but the kids were terrified - we'd just got in from Asda (bought yet more nappies - counted them and I now have 150 size 1's and 130 size 2's . Need to stop now!! We also have 18 packs of wipes). The whole lot hasn't cost me that much either - about £25?

CazEm at you getting your essay done - well done you!!!! Hope your dh is better soon - what a worry!!

MrsZaC Did you have a nice time at the baby show? Fab bargain you got there with the nappies. That pillow is soooo cute practical - which one did you get?

LCR I'm sorry you're feeling down at the moment hun, have you had your hen do yet? That might cheer you up . You sound like you've got so much on your plate right now - weddings are stressful! I'd rather move house 10 times that plan my wedding again, everything will be picture perfect on the day tho

Weehector You've been through so much, you poor thing. You're definitely due some happiness

Marzi Glad to hear baby is kicking well again and good luck with the house move.

Neenz Hope your ds is ok! Seems like Friday was the day for falling over, my dd tripped in the kitchen and bumped her head on the corner of the kitchen counter. I was putting my shoues on in the hall at the time and she came running to me and showed me her hand which had a small drop of blood on it, I told her to go wash it off then I saw her head and face . Never been so scared in my entire life!! Blood had dripped all down her fringe and down her face - cleaned her up and it was the tiniest cut ever, about 5mm. She's fine tho - day off school and no need for hospital. They do scare you tho don't they??

Bubba Hope you're ok after the silly bugger on the road.

Cazzy Did you manage to get your dates and appointments sorted?

YummyMummy Welcome back Have added you back onto the list hun - and congratulations on your scan and little girl

Vix Sorry you're in pain love, could you possibly see you mw and see about a physio referral? Not really sure what else to suggest. And how does your surgery rate what is an emergency and what isn't? I don't have a physio number either in my notes.

Chulita Ham salad sandwich for lunch - will be taking the ham out tho - yuk!!! And I wish it was Friday too as then I'd be looking forward to a 3day weekend cos I'm not working the bank holiday next week

Sorry if I've cross posted with a million people - I'm at woprk and it;s taken aaagggggeeeeessss to type this up

Love to all xxxx

Hiya girls

Just wanna run something by you please. Below is my list of things in/due to go in my hospital bag.

I can't for the life of me remember what I had in there with dd and ds - Babies. Make. Your. Brain. Mush

Please advise on if I have enough or too much cos I'm paranoid. I only have a very small case and it's full, considering separating the things tho, so I'd have all my stuff in the case and all baby's in a funky weekend bag - whaddaya think??

Hospital Bag Baby (to be added when/if I get to 36wks)
sleepsuits ? x 3
vests - x 3
shawl - ?
scratchmitts x 1pr
hat ? x 1
nappies x10
Nappy bags
wipes x 1pk
blanket - ?

Me
old stretchy vest - for labour
nightdress (front opening)
nursing bra
maternity pads - x 1 pk
pants ? x 10 cheapy to throw away
flip flops
bath sheet
flannel
toiletry bag (containing small sham/cond + shower gel, toothpaste/brush, hairbrush, hand sanitiser, deodorant, perfume, make-up (concealer/mascara/blush), lip balm)
PSP + charger (for dh when I?m in labour)
NDS + charger (for me, when I?m in labour)
Phone charger
Book (in case I get bored of NDS)
Munchies (biscuits, crisps etc)
Energy drinks
Cooling spray - for labour

Cherry Great minds think alike - I wrote out those very two lists this am and its exactly the same but with breast pads in there too for me.

I also wrote DH's paternity leave letter & sorted out my NI contributions for the last few weeks so I can fill out my MA form.

Feeling v organised for once if not particularly ready for labour itself!

sorry cheery I'm no use, but your list looks useful, I might copy it!

I really enjoyed the baby show, well worth it, lots of good advice and I now have a much better idea of what I'm doing. Also good to see products in the flesh.

Anyone else experienced baby kicking you low down? It honestly feels like baby is stamping right down into my bits! the strangest feeling ever, like needing to pee

Sounds about right Cherry - not sure you will need a shawl though (cardi instead?) and maybe your dh could bring the blanket with him the day you are discharged (keep it with the infant carrier then he can't forget!) so it is not taking up space. I would actually take more babygros and vests cos you could easy go through 3 in one day! I wouldn't bother with nappy sacks either - just put the nappy straight in the bin. I had about three big bags last time, it's amazing how much you end up taking.

Vix, you should just ring the doc's and say it is an emergency, you don't have to explain to the receptionist what is wrong with you, it is none of their business - they will try to put you off to see if it is a 'real' emergency, so you have to be peristent! Waiting a week is not possible therefore it is an emergency. I hate this with my doc's - they don't make appts in advance at all, you have to ring that morn and if you don't get in you have to ring the next morning. Stupid govt targets!

I am 24wks now and still feeling pretty good - got a bit of a cold though so a bit tired and yukky today.

Thanks guys, I am going to ring in the morning and say I am 6 months pregnant and having bad cramps, that's the truth and should qualify as urgent enough to get in to see a doctor. Gonna have a proper catch up on the thread later when I get home - having a hectic day

sorry I haven't been around for ages but I am back for a huge moan. so here is my AIBU? I am posting it here in the hope that you won't judge me like the tampon knitters out there!

DP and I are selfemployed, we own a busy coffee bar and another shop which is a balloon & party shop (which are opposite each other in a shopping centre). We have a very good team in both shops but I am still working 7 days & 70 hours a week. We get very few days off and so when we do it is very precious. DP and I had decided to book a holiday 2-9th may to celebrate dd 2nd birthday and our 16th anniversary, this was a last minute decision on friday evening. I arrived at work on saturday morning and got stuck in to my day the balloon shop was busy with bookings so I didn't have chance to write it on the staff calender, our coffee bar was busy and we are short staffed as a member of staff is stuck in australia due to the ash cloud. One of our saturday girls who happens to be my best friends 16 year old daughter came over to the balloon shop during her lunch break to ask for a day off in 2 weeks time, I was busy and serving a customer when she asked and I said I am sorry but we are away that weekend and as it is only to spend the day with her boyfriend I said that it wasn't possible. This created a huge problem and she stormed off in tears. I cancelled my holiday and said she could have the day off and she didn't even say thank you. We left for the day about 5:30 as we were going to BTCC with some friends. Everything seemed fine and we all said goodbye. I got a text from her about 7:45pm to say she had had enough and she was leaving with immediate effect as she was sick of being treated like she was a pushover. As we were driving and the signal was patchy we decided to ignore it and deal with it after our day off. If we managed a supermarket or an office she wouldn't have been able to text us at that time of the evening and it would have waited until the next working day.

I was upset at her decision to leave but if taht is what she wants what can I do.DP sent her a text today accepting her resignation and wishing her all the best and thanked her for all of her hard work. As she had given us her notice I assumed that she wanted us to confirm that it was ok for her to leave.

Her Mum (my best friend) emailed me this afternoon to say that she was disgusted at the text and how we have treated her daughter unfairly, the email was a personal attack and ended by her saying that she hoped no one ever treats my daughter the way I treated hers and that we are no longer friends. I am totally devastated and came home from work today early in floods of tears. We have been friends for 10 years and while I don't blame her one bit for the loyalty to her daughter it would have been nice for some understanding of the whole situation rather than listening to a teenage tantrum and thinking that possibly the 'story' her daughter told may not be entirely unbiased. I cancelled my holiday FFS!

It feels like the line between friendship and work has been made a little fuzzy, for the 1st time I acted like a boss and owner of a company and said that it wasn't ok for a day off as we were away that weekend ourselves.

Now not only have we lost a decent member of staff but I have lost my best friend. I have stopped crying now and have stuffed myself full of chocolate but I have still lost my best friend and I don't think it is one of those situations that can be resolved.

I am now fully prepared for you all to tell me that I am being selfish and I need to man up and deal with it.

oh no coffeelady that's rubbish! big hugs for you.

My dad owned a hotel and unfortunatley we used to have these types of situations all the time, so I really sympathise. How horrible of your friend to jump on her daughters side without coming to talk to you about it first... I don't think it's fair of her to come to the assumption that you were being a mean cow...by the sounds of things you did the right thing.

here have some bananna & chocolate cake to cheer you up! everyone help themselves!! xxxx

coffeelady I don't think YABU at all. Teenagers are notorious for getting into a sulk. You cancelled your holiday and let her have the day off anyway, sounds to me like she was totally taking the piss. I'd email your friend in a couple of days and explain what happened from your point of view, as you said, it might be a totally different story from what she heard.
cherry I've been inspired to write my own list. I'd add more vests - I'm impressed with the idea of makeup, I don't wear it on a normal day so that's one thing I won't be packing! I'll swap NDS for knitting too, DH won't let me have a DS, he says it kills conversation!
mrsZac this LO is always kicking downwards, sometimes I think I'm going to wet myself

Thanks everyone - blanket and carseat are to be kept together in car so dh doesn't forget them - we do also have more babygro's and vests in the baby changing bag, which dh can grab if I need them. Nappy bags are also in the changing bag rather than hospital bag, they'll be there ready for when we're out and about then.

Have swapped shawl for cardigan - as soon as you mentioned it neenz I remembered this is exactly what I did with ds, in fact - the mw's told me off for putting a cardi on him as it was summer! Will take it just in case tho.

Have also added breastpads - thanks weehector CoffeeLady - I do not think you are being selfish or unreasonable at all. Although I think your friend is (sorry). It sounds to me as though she was expecting you to treat her daughter differently because of your friendship. I really do hope you can sort things out with her, and that she see's the upset she's caused you hun (((hugs)))