The PESH Deli - The one where Cheggers Goes Pop-Pop!

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BESH BABYWIN STATS

This isn?t a fucking list ? right?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.

UPDIFFED
Cheggers, she won 2 baybees, due soon
Ponymum, the one with the worst hips, due mid June
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, the ginger with the dodgy joints due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
Pandora, She's got wings, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
Honeymoo, puppy lover, due November 1
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6

I dream of that day! I'm just feeling sorry for myself lying in bed with snotty nose and there's no one here to make me nice drinks/peanut butter on toast.

On the good side, I have inherited mr moos laptop as he is getting one from work. Hee hee! No more arguing about mumsnet!

Just think - the baby will be much worse! I think you should make Mr Moo do all the early rising for now. You need your sleep and you'll be the one up at all hours when miniMoo arrives, so it's only fair that he's the puppy night nurse!

BTW we've been looking into everything regarding introducing baby to dog etc and it appears that some dogs find baby cries quite disturbing so actually crave their own, separate place of sanctuary that they can hide away in and put their paws over their ears! So there's another reason for woofymoo to have his own spot far from your bedroom
Ours lives in a crate in the understairs cupboard and retreats there during any periods of stress - when she isn't well, during fireworks and so on. She's a sensitive soul so I expect to find her hiding away quite a lot when junior has arrived. Poor thing.

I'm probably breaking ALL the doggy rules here. But since the beginning of August last year we've had them in the bedroom. They each have a cushion on the floor, big dog on jailbait's side, von P on my side. It's really worked for us and they'll sleep in with no bother. Before that I had THREE fucking years of Von P doing "dirty protests" and/or barking at every cat/squirrel/moth which passed within a 50m radius. They don't attempt to get on the bed and they're both quiet.

Are you going to keep them in with you after Julian arrives? God is so tempting to do that, but I hear ya Curly. I feel its a bit unfair on Mr Moo and we end up arguing at 5.30am most mornings.

rots. Yes, ours does appreciate comfy sleeps a lot, but she's not old enough to refuse a walk yet. She has been known to stay in bed from 9pm to 9.30am, but the minute you head out that door, she's like a rocket. A perfect reflection of the half collie/half greyhound that she is.

But then moo has a working breed that's designed to be on the go all day. Maybe something mentally tiring will buy you some leeway honey? A Kong filled with breakfast?
Somewhere to watch the world go by (assuming he's not a yapper)? It's amazing how much just being alert can tire them out...

He is a show actually, but still has the "needy" characterisitics of a cocker. He follows me into the loo for e.g. Won't eat unless you watch.

I think brekkie in kong could be a good plan. We will try it... Either that or I remember Minimu saying wake HIM up and then extend it.

The latter sounds like a good idea. If he learns that you coming to him to start the day = lots more love and attention, he might just start to hold out for that. Especially if he gets no fuss at all when he's done the waking...

Ok we have a plan. thank you!!

honey I think we'll leave the bedroom door open so they can come and go as they please... I can just see them now hiding behind the sofa with paws over their ears giving it the big "make it go away mummy" eyes! Revenge will finally be ours!

Von P's alarm clock is set to 9am. She'll quite happily sleep through until then but at 9am she wants everyone up and moving.

Having them in the bedroom works really well, they seem to know the difference between staggering up for a pee and getting up. They won't even get off the cushion or raise their heads for a bathroom visit but if I get up to pace (as pregnancy insomnia dictates) they're happy to get up and lie on the sofa for a few more hours. Sleeping is what they're good at.

Continuing this subject, I've just spoken to SFF. When he was walking Mutley this morning they bumped into a two year old girl with her mum and gran. Everyone was keen for a meet and greet between the two youngest as mum explained that they were getting a puppy soon. SFF invited little girl to feed Mutley a biscuit, which shhe did. Little girl then went to stroke Mutley's head - putting her right in the firing line for a big lick to the face! Little girl quite taken aback, Mum, Gran and SFF pissing themselves with laughter

I think we're all going to be alright...

Curly that's lovely and I'm glad to see the foxy fox passed her test! Big dog came from a family with children and I think as she's old now she's got the sense to remove herself from the situation when she's had enough - although she was great with the kids in the park the other week. Von P on the other hand - has anyone ever seen "Drop Dead Fred"? We envisage that sort of scenario "Von P made me do it". x 1000

As an afterthought - having dogs has taught jailbait a valuable "fatherhood" lesson. He's had his nuts jumped on/headbutted so many times now he's quite immune to this - which should come in handy for the toddler years.

pandy amused by your FB post

Moomoo - sorry I can get bit boring about dogs - so do feel free to ignore...re: dogs in bedrooms... that is totally not a problem (in terms of 'pack') so long as you are always happy for them to sleep there - although you can always change the rules, but it is harder as they get older.

The behaviourist I used a long time ago always has her dogs in her bedroom cos that is where she wants them. The trainer I use now doesn't - cos that is how she wants her house to work. It makes bugger all difference in terms of how much the dog listens to you etc. It's just what you actually want. If you want your puppy in your room - then have him in there!

FWIW - mine sleeps downstairs at home - he isn't allowed upstairs at all - he doesn't even try to go upstairs. When we stay in a hotel or at my parents - he sleeps in the room with us. He is happy either way as it is his routine.

Anyway - cassie speaks much sense on the sep anx ishoos - and agree that your baby puppy needs to learn to cope with time alone - and so maybe having him in room might not help this.

rots in terms of pack stuff - pack theory has been discredited - however apparently dogs usually see human children in the same way they see their own siblings - hence the lack of taking orders

I will find you some links mooface and some more info if you like? Don't wanna go on too much tho...

Links to - teaching puppies manners here

Separation anxiety: here

Crate training: here

Not sure they all relevant - but they all useful....

moomoo I just emailed you and got an "out of office in meetings" when really you are at home in bed dreaming of peanut butter sarnies!

me update: more pinkness on wiping (was streaky red earlier - TMI?). Called MW, now got to phone AN day assessment (at the consultant unit) and arrange to have it checked out. But it's probably nothing, I'm told...

curly I'm glad you've phoned already! I am worried now you said it was red streaky earlier. I think you need to get along there today to get scanned - the rest of us can't take the pressure. Can you leave work now and drive to the maternity/EPU straight away?

Best get checked though curlyone, it's sure to be nothing but for peace of mind worth getting checked.

I haz just googled intended name of baybee:

i) Laird Julian Fuckbuckle.
ii) Julian Fuckbuckle Kinky Fetish club owner.

What do you think?

ski That's what I've just been told to do. Leave work, pick up maternity record from home, and go to Consultant Unit immediately.
off now
will let you know what happens.

cas I had the same with LC, was all fine, if I catch you before you go.

iggs I thought you'd say that about packs, I understand that my understandings are out of date!! I haven't quite got my head around it all recently, but it's interesting how differently Caspar treats the little fella. He's perfectly friendly with him but he just looks at him and says, "Yeah, like I'm going to listen to you, little puppy" in a totally distainful way.

pandy ignore what I said about your FB comment, I misunderstood it! I'll post on FB.

Incidentally, where IS pandy?

Cas - glad you are going to check, will be thinking of you

rots and everyone else can I be your FB friend? If so how do I do that without revealing too much (oooer)

curly hope all goes well with appointment!

pony ahh, thanks for stroking my head, I feel all fulfilled!

Soz for ghastly quietness today, nausea is hitting an all time high and all I want to do is throw my head down the loo... in the words of a well known song...

On the doggy note, I too have these concerns, not about separation anxiety as we took the hard nose route from when ours was a puppy (even though we had 3 sleepless nights) but more with the how the hell he'll react with a baby in the house. My blister tells me that Caesar Milan (dog whisperer man) has some good tips on this sorta stuff so I may well read up on that... looking at him now snoring on the sofa it's difficult to imagine just how much his little life will be altered for ever more in about 7 months! Personally I think the biggest issue will be with baby toys, since they generally seem to be the same colour/size of the toys the dog has at the moment...