PESH Deli - Taking the B out of BESH

[skihorse]

A new thread for the gabbers.

Hopefully we will find out during the course of this thread whether dear cheggers has laid a baybee or two yet!

ski don't know v much re horses but that sounds most awful, poor you

cunty so desperately sorry for your friend - that is a nightmare. is currently my worst nightmare too as 12 week scan in couple weeks and constant paranoia re that happening

thanks for vomiting sympathy. every fucking book/site etc says 'oh yes it will start to get better from 10 weeks on'

lies. i threw up all day yesterday. took yr advice ski and phoned docs but can't get appt til friday. hey ho.

switty congrats for your scan, that's vg news

also panda laughed out loud at the bra pics - i can well see where you're coming from, getting fitted this week for new ones as busting out of the old ones - this is a MAJOR event in my small life, being a dancer have never had any norks to speak of so this is a great shock

and not ideal for costumes actually, picture something like gwynnie had in shakespeare in love and you get the picture

rots i watched OBEM also, so terrifying - can't imagine how they work with such tiny tiny babies. amazing.

ski yes I understand what you mean. With my parents being carriage drivers you see the odd injury where a horse in a multiple has knocked the other (although typically O/R boots and bandages make this a rare event) but what you've described sounds really freaky. BUt isn't that the way with animals - if they get an injury, it's always something really weird. As you say, sounds like a shod horse caught her but who knows.

I can see what you mean about filling it. I think I recall you saying you knew a really good farrier? It was a while back... but I'm so glad you're feeling more positive about it. There's nothing worse that waiting (been there, several times).

sal glad you're growing norks . Sorry about the vomming. It will stop, probab pretty soon but if not at least when the baby's born . NO seriously, I really am very sympathetic. I was so lucky not to actually get the throwing up (just the feeling sick which was bad enough) but mine passed at 10 weeks (with the odd bit afterwards). I'm sure yours will pass soon.

Iggy lets wear red carnations and carry copies of Time Out to the Portland Open day! We're going in the am as we have friends round for Sunday lunch.

at honey's dream-gasm. All my mates with kids say use the 2nd trimester horniness to shag for your life!

So I went to the baby shower on Sunday despite being knackered, and the hostess just rang me to say one of the guests has this contagious childhood disease. Going to ring MW in a bit but in the meantime someone with kids tell me not to panic!

PS Jealous of cunty's doula

Huh, never heard of that skater. But the NHS page clearly says it's not a danger to you or babe so that would be good enough for me.

pony I need a really big kick in the backside please. Just back from docs about neck pain (ongoing problem, seems worse at mo prob with hormones) and also piles that I've been complaining about. Basically he says, have the baby, that's the only treatment.

Feeling V sorry for myself and I need a no-holds-barred in the grand scheme of things this is absolutely nothing and I should be grateful I can still walk and this is stuff which can be treated after the baby's born kind of kicking, please.

And no nancy pancy, "well I may be in pain, Carrots, but it's subjective and just because mine is worse doesn't mean you aren't having a bad time".

Skate I have one of those rubber rings with a hole in it (from the first birth!), here settle your bot bot into this and pop a a hot water bottle onto your neck.

Well - its says there's a risk of miscarriage, but it's super-small. I have stopped panicking.

How is your 'orse today, ski?

Oi! I dont have piles, I will have you know!

(yet).

Shimmies in... do I look different like this

ski poor horse but sounds like you got it sorted? Hope she heals fast - guess a good blood supply will help that?

skates Newspaper under arm innit

sal Not being voice of doom but my vomming didn't pass until 18 weeks. Just wanted to add that so that you're not too downheartened if it doesn't actually pass at 10 weeks like all these other lucky people! Saying that though, the last few weeks it was few and far between and I kept thinking, maybe it really has gone... well it did eventually.

ski Sorry for Ginge. I have no experience of this type of injury but it sounds like you're on to it.

rots Who am I to judge another's pain? We each carry the burden that is given to us, and us alone, to bear...

Who am I kidding? Stop being pafetic. Harden up! Are you man or mouse? (And don't whimper er, neither.) Grow some balls. Take it on the chin. Sing yer little count your blessings song and get busy with something useful instead of moaning to me!

There. (Hard enough for you?)

Pull yourself together rots and mainline some serious chemical-filled drugs. Oh, and shove on some bum grape cream, will ya?!

(feel better soon though)

I fell out with SFF in the middle of the night. He came to bed (woke me up). We lay there for 15 mins. He got up and went to the car. He came back.

Me: "What are you doing?"
Him: "Getting my earplugs"
Me: "Why?"
Him: "Because you were snoring"
Me (high pitched, tears already flowing): "I fucking well was not you lying bastard. I've been lying here awake since you came to bed and yes, I might be breathing heavily, but I do not snore while I am awake. Do you not think I feel like shit enough without you throwing lies at me and making me feel bad for the state my body is in????? "

Him: "I'm sorry I said that, I didn;t mean to upset you."
Me: "Well you've already upset me by getting your fucking earplugs. You've accused me of snoring while I have been wide awake before so clearly you're not fucking sorry, you're just saying that to shut me up, NOW LEAVE ME ALONE!"

Casper cries herself to sleep. Grunts at husband during brief waking moments together in the morning. Goes to work.

I think it would be fine if he hadn't been an arse about the fact that I'm supposed to be sleeping on my left hand side now. I always sleep on my right with my back to him and he whinged when I said that would be changing. But it's ok for him to turn over and snore in my ears. Selfish cunt.

Spare room currently out of action due to boxes from loft. One word out of line tonight and he's sleeping with the dog. I'm carrying his child FFS. If a little heavy breathing makes him precious about his sleep, wait till he has a screaming newborn in the room.

RANT OVER, as you were

P.S I am still not particularly hormonal...

rots/piggy/pony/etc Yes, that would make sense - it can only have been a collision type injury. Funnily enough, one of the triggers for me going barefoot with her was that she got a nasty overreach injury when she was 4. I figured no shoes, no injuries - didn't count on other people's nags! She's doing fine today and I've been in touch with my farrier who also happens to be a vet student - so I trust him more than any other foot/leg-spert - also my Jackapoo came from him. So frankly, he owes me one! He'll be coming out in a month or so to see where we stand. One of the girls is just about to join the police and freaked out when the vet stuck his fingers in the wound - we did try to tell her that she'd probably encounter this with real, live people on the job - "but I liiiiiiike Ginger". hehe

Skater I have not had the 2nd trimester sex-surge, we're doing it - but I'm not pinning him down and demanding it. I feel cheated.

What do we think will be in the Portland Day goody bag? I fink:
15% off Isabella Oliver maternity voucher
2 tickets to Hampton Court for two for tea
Boden catalogue
Elaborate little box containing two Godiva choccies.
Eton brochure.
Horse & Hound.

dontry had a baby

cas and pony cheers me dears. I now has bloody "count your blessings" song going round my head. Google it with sound to get the full appreciation of its twee-ness. Thank you VERY much. . OK, so I liked all the talking to dead people stuff, but the hymns left something to be desired (and IMO, sorry to all you churchy people, standard ones do so bizarre ones are just - odd).

cas Hmm, me detects a leeetle bit of hormones going on there dear. pats on head in patronising way as carrots is never hormonal . Don't worry, it will only get worse when baby comes and you're all struggling with no sleep as well as hormones. Rule in our house - if YOB snores, he goes into spare room. If I snore, YOB goes into spare room. In case of no spare room, sofa will suffice. Nothing to do with pregnancy, it's just The Rule (and as it should be). Not that I snore, ever, of course.

Re sleeping on left side, personally (and I'm not a MW LOL) I would just sleep however you get any of the bloody stuff. I mean, optimally left side and all, and preferably not on your back, but, seriously, getting sleep is WAAAAY more important than how you do it, IMO. But what do I know.

skater What it says is, "There is some limited evidence that catching hand, foot and mouth disease during pregnancy may result in miscarriage in very rare cases." which I would interpret as, it's all fine I would say there's lots more higher-risk things that you'll be doing, like going outside the front door. Reassuring nods. misspiggy liking new name - didn't know who you were until you said "innit" .

I have never understood why we ought to sleep on our left hand side. I have, and probably always will - sleep on my right. In fact, when I lie on my left it's almost as though I can feel my heart having to work harder because of the extra weight on it. What is the medical reason for the left? Or was it just decided?

OMG donttry laid a baybee. I'm a little bit about it though as cunty and I were due at the same time. It was another one of those BESH weeks where we got 4 BFPs in one week.

Very knackered (pooter nearly works though - well, works in the office but not at home. But I am buggered if I am doing the 3 and a half hr round trip to Heathrow more than once a week - they are not getting me do go into work more frequently just cos I am knocked up!) So just popping in to say 'get well soon Ginger-horse!' Sound horrible, but I am sure it will heal OK - big horse has managed to romove several bits of his foot using only a single brain cell over the years, and all his feet still work! It is always 'other people's horses' that are the bother. That's why when I had a poorly knee last year I would happily do a XC competition, but not go hunting.

As for sleep deprivation - last night DD was suffering from 'sleeping at Nana's house' withdrawal symptoms. OH wouldn't let her come into bed with us (and he was right to insist, although it didn't seem like a sensible idea at 2am.) So I ended up sleeping in her single bed with her. and she thrashes about in her sleep. So I is ker-nackered now.

Thanks rotty

Just got a text saying he hopes I'm having a good day and he loves me. Don't want to completely ignore him, but not sure what to write.

One thing I do know is that I should definitely try to stop swearing in RL I don't think she liked what mummy what saying in a whispered-yell (?)

Baby did not stop moving from 5.30pm to 10pm last night. And he felt her while we were spooning at yoga class. It was a partners session where all the logic behind sleeping on the left etc was explained.(so he shoudl get it, right?)

BTW, I understand that you should sleep any way you can and I'm often almost on my back at the mo. (Just slightly off to one side). But for him to react to advice that could impact on how our baby is born (and how much pain I end up in) in such a selfish way really pisses me off.

I know I'm a cah. I'd also have been upset if he'd moved to the sofa. Just the way I am. I usually hit him when he snores. I've had 10 years of his drunken snores and rolling over on top of me. He's had a few months of my stuffed sinuses and he's getting all precious about sleep. Wuss.

ski it's all about gravity and how the baby turns when it's coming out. It's best to have baby on the left when he/she engages. Apparently they can only turn in one direction, and if starting out on the right, they are likely to turn such that you get a (painful) back-to-back labour.

Thanks to gravity, whichever side you lie on is the side the baby is likely to end up on.

Advice is to lie on your left from about 32-34 weeks, but to start early if you are not used to lying on your left, so it becomes more normal when you are in the very uncomfortable, sleep deprived latter stages.

I always sleep on my right. But at the mo I find either side horrible because of bump and hips. I prefer to be on my back, with extra pillows raising my sore shoulders and snotty head. But then I'm lying on a very important blood vessel or summat, so that's not good either...

Sorry about what would have been for you and cunster. But not long now time you have Julian and Rastus.

sorry for the knackered-ness pandy. Single bed with anyone does not sound good.

cas you are NOT a cah. You are perfectly entitled to be "on the edge". But at the same time, he does love you, which is wonderful, and really he's a great hubby, so text him back and say you love him too My parents always said, after an argument, if one person backed down or tried to be nice, never push it and be nice yourself. That's what they say and they've been married for longer than I've been around LOL.

Yes, he was a bit daft about the left side thing, especially as he understands the details, but then, bless him, he is only a bloke. I would save it for arguments over stuff which really matters a lot, like foetal positioning later in the pregnancy. IMO.

ski there are several reasons. As your liver's on your right, laying on your left takes the weight off it, but it's not a big deal. Laying on your back can compress arteries which affect you and the baby by making your heart work harder. If you have to lie on your back, try putting a small cushion under your bum to lift you an inch or so to the side. None of it is as important as getting sleep however you can.

laying lying oohh bit of Yorkshire slipping in there

I figured you'd work out who i was from the werds innit...

I can only sleep on my left or right side - lying on my back makes me feel sick... and on my front is just impossible I switch between the two through the night - must be lovely sleeping in the bed with me I haz lovely pillow thing tho - so sleeping much more comfy than it was...

Ahahahahah! I'm going to be very excited if I get any sleep at all this time round, who gives a stuff what position I'm in! I did all the right things last time, and got no sleep as a consequence because it just wasn't comfy, and DD was still in an awkward position. She's just an awkward child, full stop. But a lovely one - bless! We went to her pre-school Easter bonnet parade this morning and she was at the back of the stage because they didn't trust the littlies as the front. So she jumped higher in the dances and sang louder to make up for it, and kept standing up when everyone else was sitting down and shouting MMUUUUUUuuuuuummmmmmyyyyyyy!!!! and waving like mad

I totally agree with rots, save the big arguments for the really big stuff. e.g., discipline, schooling, homework, "ohmygod you're not going out wearing that". He loves you to bits Curly, be nice.

Thanks Curly for the left-hand-side explanation.

rots I've been up since 2am your time... I sleep when I can and if it's only right side then so be it.

hahahaha pandora - well done for her!