June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

[CantSleepWontSleep]

Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

Thanks for asking about me/us. Life carries on at a frantic pace. I am less sore but certainly have sad moments. It all seems rather surreal still.

Sunworshipper why do you have to have a CS under GA? I'll probably have an elective CS but not once did they mention a GA, only a spinal.

Cadmum it's nice to hear from you, glad you are ok (ish) .

I will be using disposible nappies. There is no way on earth I can be bothered with all the extra washing and hassle that is involved with re-usable ones.

Those of you with or getting help in don't know how lucky you are .

Phil Spencer.........
I'm really not seeing it myself!!

Hello Cadmum, nice to hear from you, I'm pleased the physical part of your recovery is going well. Are you ready to look forward to Cambodia yet?

Ah, Sunworshipper what a bummer about your CS. It's funny, isn't it, how a 'normal' birth, which let's face it, isn't a process most of us would voluntarily go through if it didn't result in a baby, suddenly becomes very precious when you know it's not going to happen. I wonder why that is? Anyway, the first moment when you meet your new baby is going to be a huge turning point in your life, no matter how it happens: I'm certain that will hugely outweigh any 'hows' when it comes.

LOL at the Phil Spencer meme. I can vaguely see where you'll all coming from but having spent years working in commercial property which is an industry largely staffed by Philclones, it's grown a bit stale for me!

Oh, and Can'tsleep, sorry but I didn't get up to the attic last night - had CrisisGirlFriend round for a glass of wine to tell me about her latest crisis and got sidetracked. Will do so tonight and email you!

Hi all,

Can I join you? I?m a bit late for the party, but better late than never!

I?m 31, due on 3rd June with my first and we decided not to find out the sex (although obviously were both looking on the scan for any telling evidence ).

I?ve got a few nappies second hand on freecycle as we wanted to try some different ones out before buying a load. Sounds like a good idea to get a few disposables in for the first few days.

I?ve so far wasted hours of my life looking at buggies and have a shortlist of urban mountain buggy (very interested in reading the comments a couple of days ago), Easywalker Sky and Jane slalom Pro capazo. I think we need to do some test driving.

Barbeasty, whereabouts near Stroud are you? I live in Rodborough. Keep meaning to make it to the pregnancy yoga at The Subscription Rooms but it?s on a Monday lunchtime so it keeps clashing with work commitments.

Good to meet you all x

CSWS& - gumtree is a great place to advertise for help, although be warned: you will be snowed under by responses!

I agree with Gizmos sliding scale of care, and just wanted to add some more info about doula's, especially for the first time mums:

DH and I had decided that of course we didn't want a maternity nurse bossing us about and trying to take over when we had ds (dc1). The rest of my family were utterly at this, because they all had people 'bringing the baby in for a feed' when it woke in the night etc for at least the first 5 weeks!! Times have changed...! But this did make us wonder whether we might have been a bit hasty deciding to 'go it alone' - except with only 4 weeks to go it turned out to be too late to organise any help anyway. Then we discovered that a number of friends regularly booked their maternity nurses as soon as they got pregnant !!

Anyway....

Suddenly we discovered that my mum's 1st cousin was just finishing her doula training and needed a family for her 'case study' to qualify. So we got a free doula for 6 weeks...and she was totally amazing. Honestly, the biggest-sanity-lifesaver on the planet. Had we known then what we knew afterwards we would have fallen at her feet in tears when she offered to help us!!

So...a doula: looks after the mum, makes sure she's eating/sleeping properly. Will do any household tasks piling up (washing, dishwasher etc) and look after all older kids (if any) as well as baby to give mum a break and chance to sleep. Will give fantastic help and advice on all aspects of small-baby-care, like feeding/washing/sleeping/health issues. Will act as personal cheerleader ("you're doing a great job, don't worry"), take you to hospital when your post-partum stitches get infected, help talk you through the common-sense (not political) approach to dummies, breast-feeding, sleeping, routines etc. Mine also helped me crack stuff like bf-ing lying down so that I could feed/sleep better. Honestly, brilliant Whenever we had an awful night with ds, and panicked we didn't know what we were doing (regularly in the first few weeks) it was enormously reassuring to know our doula would be arriving at 9.30 and would put the world to rights....

So where a maternity nurse will see it as her job to look after the baby, put it into a routine, etc etc, the doula basically enables you to look after your baby, and supports you through the first 6 weeks to get you well established in whichever groove you choose.

Goodname - my nanny looks after the kids, that's her job, not the house. So she does house-stuff that's related to the kids (tidies their rooms during the week, changes their sheets, does their laundry, irons school uniforms, cooks their food etc) and makes sure the living room/kitchen etc are tidy after the kids have been in there. But if I wanted a housekeeper (which it sounds like your sister is covering), I would employ one. Your sister does need to assert herself, and perhaps needed to be clearer about the remit of her responsibilities before she took the job but could always have a formal conversation now. Fire-laying does not sound like a nanny-job (although I love doing stuff like that!!). FWIW my nanny does loads of extra stuff, including all the adult laundry, makes my bed, changes the towels etc but I always regard this as 'extra' rather than part of her job.

LaT - you didn't sound whingey and you are sooooo right. You should see the filly-mummy-guilt in action on a day I miss something critical!

meggymegmegs we did do NCT...it was okish for the social aspect (although I'm no longer in touch with any of those mums, as I prefer hanging out with my real friends who have all had kids since then) but everything in it was totally covered by the brilliant book by Yehudi Menuhin called "Birth and Beyond". Which also has brilliant yoga stuff, health stuff, and is simply the best baby-care book going...some of our friends call it the "baby bible"!!

I'm with mampam on both the Phil Spencer (no thank you!) response and the disposable nappies [guilty emoticon]. Even though I'm pretty environmentally conscious about everything else, I just can't see the point, and am not convinced the extra laundry is worth it

Greensnail - my DD decided to have a temper tantrum (full blown angry yelling) every 1.5 hours through the night last night. No idea why, nothing wrong with her and she was totally exhausted when she went to bed. Shattered today, even though we decided to stop going in after the first 2 Anyone want a very bloody-minded 2 year old...she's up for grabs right now unless she changes her ways....

at Cadmum...how soon are you off?

I leave in four weeks tomorrow. I am looking forward to the move. A change of scenery is needed for all of the Cadclan.

The goodbyes are bound to be sad and in some ways it is worse to have another four weeks to contemplate that part...

I will try to use the year to make a full recovery before making any decisions about adding another lo.

I am feeling surprisingly cranky about this rotten scar that leaves my belly with no feeling and having no baby to show for it. (Does that mean that I am in the anger phase of grief?)

cadmum lovely to hear from you. Good luck for the big move, hope it gives you and your family the space you need to grieve and you the space to recover physically.

Welcome marmiteaddict

I'm just back from DD's swimming lesson and freezing my bum off MNing in the hall with the door open as DD is asleep in the car. Was so exhausted this morning, but the freezing air and a hot cup of coffee seem to be sorting me out a little. Feeling a bit concerned that bump seems to have shrunk this morning - I know it just means baby has changed position and really isn't anything to worry about, but I can't help it. Roll on next tuesday when I next get to see my lovely doctors and will hopefully be filled with reassurance that all is well.

It will be a great experience Cadmum and hopefully a good opportunity to recover mentally, physically and spiritually from the past few months. I'm sure you're still a long way from being through your grief right now and have every right to be feeling seriously pissed off with the world.

Can I ask for general opinions please? I had a GP check this morning, my first anything since 15 weeks (am now 22.5). She was totally that my scan isn't until tomorrow, when I will be nearly 23 weeks. Yes, it means that the images will be clearer, but (as I am fully aware, and Gina's update reminded me), if there are any issues then I will be dealing with them at 23+ weeks rather than at a sensible 20 weeks. I'm now quite as I queried this with the hospital several times when they made the appointment and it seems to go against all NHS guidelines. Any thoughts? Hopefully fillyflump is fine and it will be a non-issue, but I feel very abandoned by 'the system'.

LaT - how did your scan go? Wasn't it this morning?

'I am feeling surprisingly cranky about this rotten scar that leaves my belly with no feeling and having no baby to show for it.'

Oh Cadmum I'd be raging...just at the general bloody unfairness of it all, but yes, I think it does help to have a specific focus for the anger. Plus you've got all the forelog of stress associated with goodbyes and moving, even if you're used to it, it's bound to take a toll emotionally.

For those thinking of a mother's help then Can'tSleep is right about Gumtree, although the quality of response might be a bit variable. The other place that might be worth trying is a posting on the jobs section of Nannyjob.co.uk (the message boards are also eye-opening for nanny employers interested in trying to build a better working relationship with their employee!).

Filly retrospective at your trainee doula...golly that would have saved me oceans of tears in the first six weeks of DS1's life.

Welcome Marmiteaddict!

Hmmm, Filly yes, as you say, hopefully it's a non issue, but it's not a comfortable one.

Apologies, I'm going to be very cold blooded here - but in the worst case scenario, actually what is the difference between 20 and 23 weeks? If (God forbid) you have to terminate then I would have thought the emotional impact is similar. Your legal status is different, of course, but termination after 24 weeks is legal for situations where the fetus is likely to be born with severe abnormalities so you may find the legal and emotional aspects are aligned. Lord, that's a depressing paragraph...sorry.

However, how does it make you feel about the general standard of care you have received: is it a typical example of the way things have been done throughout your pregnancy?

Filly I don't think I have any valuable advice about whether it really makes a difference to have this important scan delayed but you are right to feel dismayed about being abandoned by the system. The timing guidelines are there for a reason and hospitals should do everything they can to reassure Mums and alleviate any anxiety. We're bound to be worried when hospitals can't meet these timings and yes of course everyone knows how under pressure maternity units are but it still isn't good enough when you are the Mum on the sharp end of the delay.

Hello Marmiteaddict glad you could join us.

Mampam I was born with scoliosis and have metal rods in my spine and a complete lower spinal fusion so they can't get the spinal block/epidural in.

Greensnail and Gizmo thanks for your words of wisdom and valuable perspective. Could really hug you both. I was reasonably prepared for a GA but not the ban on my DH being present. I'm seeing my midwife tomorrow so will have a chat with her about what else we can do to ensure that at least my DH doesn't miss out on those precious first moments. However, as you said, it is one day of many many days with our LO and can see that it's important not to get too het up about the perfect birth plan and hang on to the bigger picture.

Interested in all the post-birth help options. Is a maternity nurse/mother's help/doula more useful do you think than having one's Mum around or is it more a question of a professional being able to offer more targeted help for a particular period of time?

Hello Cadmum. Anger is also energy which I guess can be quite a release if you feel able to let it out. Hope you are getting lots of support for how you are feeling right now.

Hmmm, sunworshipper I'd say it honestly depends on the relationship with your mum but in many cases I think it might be, for practical and emotional reasons.

For example, I love my mum to bits: we have a very good understanding of what makes each other tick. But I'm a bit wary of depending upon her - I feel slightly protective I think (not that I need to) and even if I didn't, she's 200 miles away so not available on a regular basis.

If you're 100% comfortable with your mum possibly seeing you at your worst, and 100% convinced that you will share a similar approach on all matters baby related, then I'd say go with mum. Otherwise, the slight bit of distance between you and a professional can be quite helpful for you to get things done the way you want them, and for you to manage whatever stresses come your way in the best way possible, without worrying that they might have an effect on your relationship with your mum.

Interesting questions gizmo and sunworshipper and I think you've hit the nail on the head regarding how I feel about care this pregnancy. I wouldn't mind if the scan was late because the hopsital was busy, but its being done late because "thats when we like to do them these days, we get a better image". Which makes me feel quite about whose best interests are being protected. Overall, I've felt utterly abandoned this time around - yes, I know I've had 2 healthy dcs and no misses, so in theory I'm 'low risk', but I hadn't been checked at all since 15 weeks until today, and that was an 'unofficial' extra check with my GP because I didn't want to go from 15 weeks to 26 weeks with no bloody contact/urine checks/general assessment at all Yes, I have a scan tomorrow, but I won't be seeing a mw or consultant at the same time, so that doesn't really 'count' in terms of actual care received. Guess that makes me feel a bit pissed off whilst at the same time being supremely grateful (please don't get me wrong!) that I get to be in the low-risk-doesn't-need-to-be-seen category, iyswim.

Sunworshipper, my parents and MIL live 2 miles away and I generally get on well with my mother, but we do have different views on many things, childcare in particular. For example, my mother weaned me (dc1) at 9 weeks 'because you were ready' ! Bollocks! So there was a lot of advice I would take from my doula (even though she was actually family) because it was impartial (and not delivered in a "you must do this" manner but more like "you could try this...or this...if you want to achieve x") that would have done down like a lead balloon from my mum! And don't get me started on my MIL's approach to childcare which seems to involve avoiding tears at all costs and allowing the kids to totally run the show. Even at 2 weeks ...(filly refrains from commenting on BIL and SIL adult behaviour being a result of this....)

Hi ladies,

Lots of interesting discussions on ehre this morning - which I am, sadly, to knackered to join in with after our scan which was FINE. As Filly will know, I was getting massively wound up about it.

And Filly, I think that in your position I would feel horribly frustrated. Look at the state I got in! I'm not sure where you would stand legally if you were to make a complaint. It's tomorrow isn't it? I'll say a little prayer that the issue disappears into thin air.

Sunworshipper - I was very distressed when I found out - about ten days before it was due to happen - that I had to have an elective c-section. I had the complication that it was very dangerous for me to have GA, and thankfully didn't have to but I do understand how you feel. In the end, we had to have an em-csection, the upshot of which was that we were fine and I am very grateful for that. It made me want to put a lot of effort into bf DD, although I don't know what you're planning. But I can tell you that I did have the absolute torrent of love and tenderness towards DD as soon as I saw her that I think is the ideal after any kind of birth.

So, the consultant has approved a VBAC under restricted circumstances. On the upside, I have to have scans every 4 weeks from 28 weeks and he will let me go overdue and if I do I can decide about an induction or an elective c-section. On the downside, I will have to go into hospital as soon as labour starts and they will only let me have established labour for 6-8 hours which seems like a very short time. I would really like to do this one under my own steam but I do just have to bear in mind that we were so lucky that me and DD were fine last time and that is the end objective.

Breathe...

Oh yes and it's a

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 BOY
31/05 RnB, 31, #3
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 GIRL
31/05 - mampam, 30 #3
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
2nd - meggymegmegs, 31, #1 SURPRISE
2nd - Justbeme , 41 #3
2nd - AlwaysHopeful, 35, #2 SURPRISE
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
3rd - Flossysmum, #4
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 34,#2 GIRL
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - MrsC09, 29 #1 SURPRISE
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
8th - LittleRobbo, 35, #3 GIRL
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th - Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2
9th - greensnail, 28, #2 SURPRISE
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - woofie, 33, # 2 BOY
11th - amandajo, 34, #3 SURPRISE
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
12th - Georgee, 38, #1 GIRL
12th - Fabi76, 33 #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
15th - Millymollymoo, ?, #4 BOY
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 BOY
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - Summerhols, 31, #1
17th - Barbeasty, 30, #1 GIRL
17th - chestnut100,30 #1 GIRL
17th - MomBanks, #2 BOY
18th - Virgo1979, SURPRISE
18th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
20th - addictedtofrazzles, 33, #2
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3 GIRL
21st - Sunworshipper, 36, #1
22nd - gaelicsheep, 33, #2 - NOT TELLING
23rd - GinaFB, #1 - scanned
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - Earlyonemorning, 35, #4,
23rd - SecretLemonadeDrinker, 23, #3
23rd - IckleJess, #4 BOY
23rd - Bobolana, 29 #1 Girl
24th - GibberingGinger 34 #2+3 BOYS
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 #1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
26th - herewegrow 31 #2 GIRL
26th - imkeepingmum, #1,
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 -
27th - muchchocolate, #2
27th - nikkisbump #1
28th - diznom 32 #1
28th - Wheredidmyfeetgo 32 #3
29th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
29th - MumfieMagic, 37 #1,
29th - playftseforme, no 2 + 3
29th - JBroRo, 30 #1.
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2
30th - MonkeyMargot, 35, #2+3
30th - LaTrucha, 36, #2 BOY

Which I'm very about. Although I was happy with either, I was really expecting another girl and now I feel like I know nothing about boys (all I do know is that I vow that he shall never wear a 'little monkey' or 'little monster' style T'shirt - apologies to those with other fashion preferences. DD doesn't wear slogans either.)

La Turcha congrats on having a wee boy. I was very shocked at having a boy too and thought the same thing about knowing nothing about them. Once the shock wore off though I got pretty excited, I'm sure you will too. Also there are some really gorgeous little boys clothes out there (with no slogans). I should know because I cant stop buying them!

Ah, congrats on a boy LaT. I was a bit like that when I found out that we were having ds after dd, but you know what, he has been so absolutely adorable, and still loves playing with dolls, that I now think that boys are quite cute (until they grow up anyway ). We are a non-slogan family too, though it's hard when friends buy stuff with slogans on. Ds ended up this week in a Mr Man t-shirt that was bought by a friend saying 'Future Hunk' on it (was pic of Mr Strong iirc), but I think it's the only one that he's worn so far.
I will also get scans every 4 weeks (due to the gestational diabetes), so the other ladies can at us every time we get an extra glimpse of our babies .

filly - I think my view would depend on whether bad news at your scan would determine a different course of action for you or not. If (like me, fwiw) you wouldn't terminate regardless, then a scan at 23 weeks might actually be better, as it's 3 less weeks of worrying about whatever problem is discovered. If, however, you potentially would terminate then yes, I can understand that leaving it later is a bad thing. You strike me, however, as a strong lady who would have probably have spoken up before if you thought that the date was too late.

sunworshipper - agree with what others have said re mums after birth. I would pay for mine not to be around, but if your relationship is good and she would help in whatever way you wanted (ie not just cooing over newborn, but cleaning, cooking, booting out visitors when you've had enough etc) then great.

filly - will have a look on gumtree thank you. Is this the sort of thing that you can also get agencies for, or do they only really do nanny roles?

gizmo - no rush at all re nappies. I will need to have a sort out and see what I've got anyway!

Welcome marmiteaddict. But don't go smearing your yucky brown beefy self anywhere near me will you - I'm very much in the hate it camp!

(Oh, and can the next person to update the list remember to remove Gina please?)

Can'tsleep I got the mother's help who came to help out after DS1 through an agency. I'm not sure I'd recommend it as a first port of call, though, because it is an expensive way of going about things!

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 BOY
31/05 RnB, 31, #3
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 GIRL
31/05 - mampam, 30 #3
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
2nd - meggymegmegs, 31, #1 SURPRISE
2nd - Justbeme , 41 #3
2nd - AlwaysHopeful, 35, #2 SURPRISE
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
3rd - Flossysmum, #4
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 34,#2 GIRL
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - MrsC09, 29 #1 SURPRISE
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
8th - LittleRobbo, 35, #3 GIRL
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th - Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2
9th - greensnail, 28, #2 SURPRISE
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - woofie, 33, # 2 BOY
11th - amandajo, 34, #3 SURPRISE
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
12th - Georgee, 38, #1 GIRL
12th - Fabi76, 33 #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
15th - Millymollymoo, ?, #4 BOY
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 BOY
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - Summerhols, 31, #1
17th - Barbeasty, 30, #1 GIRL
17th - chestnut100,30 #1 GIRL
17th - MomBanks, #2 BOY
18th - Virgo1979, SURPRISE
18th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
20th - addictedtofrazzles, 33, #2
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3 GIRL
21st - Sunworshipper, 36, #1
22nd - gaelicsheep, 33, #2 - NOT TELLING
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - Earlyonemorning, 35, #4,
23rd - SecretLemonadeDrinker, 23, #3
23rd - IckleJess, #4 BOY
23rd - Bobolana, 29 #1 Girl
24th - GibberingGinger 34 #2+3 BOYS
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 #1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
26th - herewegrow 31 #2 GIRL
26th - imkeepingmum, #1,
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 -
27th - muchchocolate, #2
27th - nikkisbump #1
28th - diznom 32 #1
28th - Wheredidmyfeetgo 32 #3
29th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
29th - MumfieMagic, 37 #1,
29th - playftseforme, no 2 + 3
29th - JBroRo, 30 #1.
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2
30th - MonkeyMargot, 35, #2+3
30th - LaTrucha, 36, #2 BOY

Gina so sorry to hear of your very difficult / brave decision. Hope you are getting lots of support in RL.

Been on the missing list since last week so just had a quick skim read (waves hello to all) DD has an ear infection so has been stuck to me for dear life day and night. Ooops she's just woke up off I go again....

Ooh am finding that nannyjob site v helpful, thank you.

Hi All

Another late joiner - I am pretty new to MN, and have only just discovered this thread. But you will have to bear with me, as I am a bit self-consious around all these acronyms and abbreviations!

I am 40, and 22 weeks pregnant, with DC2. Due 16 June. DS1 is nearly 11, so big gap. This was beacause I had severe pre-eclampsia with him, and he was delivered by EmCS at 32 weeks. I developed HELLP syndrome after that, so not too good all round. It's taken us a long time to gather up enough courage to go again.

Would love to hear if anyone else has been / is going through same, as there is a 40% chance of the Pre-eclampsia re-occuring.

All was fine at 20 week scan, but due to uncooperative baby / sonographer, didn't find out sex. But am having another scan at 24 weeks, so maybe will find out then. They will also be checking for "notches" so will get better idea of chances of things going smoothly.

Oh, and I guess I need to update the mammoth list - here goes:-

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 BOY
31/05 RnB, 31, #3
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 GIRL
31/05 - mampam, 30 #3
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
2nd - meggymegmegs, 31, #1 SURPRISE
2nd - Justbeme , 41 #3
2nd - AlwaysHopeful, 35, #2 SURPRISE
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
3rd - Flossysmum, #4
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 34,#2 GIRL
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - MrsC09, 29 #1 SURPRISE
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
8th - LittleRobbo, 35, #3 GIRL
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th - Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2
9th - greensnail, 28, #2 SURPRISE
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - woofie, 33, # 2 BOY
11th - amandajo, 34, #3 SURPRISE
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
12th - Georgee, 38, #1 GIRL
12th - Fabi76, 33 #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
15th - Millymollymoo, ?, #4 BOY
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 BOY
16th - Flossie69, 40,#2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - Summerhols, 31, #1
17th - Barbeasty, 30, #1 GIRL
17th - chestnut100,30 #1 GIRL
17th - MomBanks, #2 BOY
18th - Virgo1979, SURPRISE
18th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
20th - addictedtofrazzles, 33, #2
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3 GIRL
21st - Sunworshipper, 36, #1
22nd - gaelicsheep, 33, #2 - NOT TELLING
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - Earlyonemorning, 35, #4,
23rd - SecretLemonadeDrinker, 23, #3
23rd - IckleJess, #4 BOY
23rd - Bobolana, 29 #1 Girl
24th - GibberingGinger 34 #2+3 BOYS
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 #1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
26th - herewegrow 31 #2 GIRL
26th - imkeepingmum, #1,
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 -
27th - muchchocolate, #2
27th - nikkisbump #1
28th - diznom 32 #1
28th - Wheredidmyfeetgo 32 #3
29th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
29th - MumfieMagic, 37 #1,
29th - playftseforme, no 2 + 3
29th - JBroRo, 30 #1.
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2
30th - MonkeyMargot, 35, #2+3
30th - LaTrucha, 36, #2 BOY

Hurrah - someone joining me on the 16th!!! It was getting a bit lonely there. Welcome Flossie69!

Another list update - we had our scan yesterday and everything was fine. We're didn't want to find out the sex and actually couldn't have done if we wanted to as baby was in the most awkward position. Sonographer looked extremely relieved when we said we didn't want to know as she said it would have been very difficult to see. Have decided on a colour for the nursery so can't wait to get that done now

Sorry to hear your bad news Gina - I hope you are ok and have lots of support.

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 BOY
31/05 RnB, 31, #3
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 GIRL
31/05 - mampam, 30 #3
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
2nd - meggymegmegs, 31, #1 SURPRISE
2nd - Justbeme , 41 #3
2nd - AlwaysHopeful, 35, #2 SURPRISE
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
3rd - Flossysmum, #4
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 34,#2 GIRL
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - MrsC09, 29 #1 SURPRISE
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
8th - LittleRobbo, 35, #3 GIRL
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th - Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2
9th - greensnail, 28, #2 SURPRISE
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - woofie, 33, # 2 BOY
11th - amandajo, 34, #3 SURPRISE
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
12th - Georgee, 38, #1 GIRL
12th - Fabi76, 33 #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
15th - Millymollymoo, ?, #4 BOY
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 BOY
16th - Flossie69, 40,#2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - Summerhols, 31, #1
17th - Barbeasty, 30, #1 GIRL
17th - chestnut100,30 #1 GIRL
17th - MomBanks, #2 BOY
18th - Virgo1979, SURPRISE
18th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
20th - addictedtofrazzles, 33, #2
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3 GIRL
21st - Sunworshipper, 36, #1
22nd - gaelicsheep, 33, #2 - NOT TELLING
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - Earlyonemorning, 35, #4,
23rd - SecretLemonadeDrinker, 23, #3
23rd - IckleJess, #4 BOY
23rd - Bobolana, 29 #1 Girl
24th - GibberingGinger 34 #2+3 BOYS
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 #1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
26th - herewegrow 31 #2 GIRL
26th - imkeepingmum, #1, SURPRISE
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 -
27th - muchchocolate, #2
27th - nikkisbump #1
28th - diznom 32 #1
28th - Wheredidmyfeetgo 32 #3
29th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
29th - MumfieMagic, 37 #1,
29th - playftseforme, no 2 + 3
29th - JBroRo, 30 #1.
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2
30th - MonkeyMargot, 35, #2+3
30th - LaTrucha, 36, #2 BOY

Hi everyone, and welcome to those who have joined in.

I ahven't mned for A WEEK due to illnesses - I had a vomiting bug (which is something I never ever get normally) last weekend. It was vile. Probably due to flaming pg supressing immunity, etc. Moan, whine! Mustn't grumble though, eh? Ds has been ill too, more of a flu like thing, but he is on the mend now too.

Hope eveyone is doing okay. This thread moves too fast for me to keep up with it all, so I have just had a quick skim.