October 09 - Bing bong...this is the final call for October babies, the final call October babies

[twinklegreen]

Here's the list, have tried to update as much as I can. Apologies if I've missed anyone. (also added how late/early they were for you princessmel) Babies due

Cookiemonster1 - 2/10/09 Boy
dogstar - 4/10/09 Girl
Sparklytwinkletoes - 06/10/09 Don't Know
Heylottie - 09/10/09 Don't Know
Kowaikiwi - 10/10/09 Don't Know
SassJ - 12/10/09 Boy
Hackneybird - 15/10/09 Don't Know
HalfMumHalfBiscuit - 15/10/09 Don't Know
littleblessing - 19/10/09
Princessmel - 21/10/09 Boy
NewbeeMummy - 21/10/09 Girl
Jellytotz - 21/10/09 Girl
Dizzytrout - 21/10/09 Girl
MrsHappy - 23/10/09 Girl
Ronniemummy- 24/10/09
MeHimCatBlob - 25/10/09 Girl
Hattie05 - 30/10/09 Girl

Babies born
theboob - Madison Rose born 14/09/09...14 days early
Devilsadvocaat - Charlie born 25/09/09...14 days early
LittleMissBliss - Marley born 25/09/09...10 days early
Mrs Kitty - Eliza born 26/09/09...9 days early
CalypsoFLame - Annalise Francoise born 28/09/09...2 days early
Ohmani - Patrick David born 29/09/09
Wibblydibs - Louis Dashiell born 29/09/09...7 days early
KleineMaus - Magnus born 30/09/09...on due date
Twinklegreen - Amelie Eva born 30/09/09...2 days late
Fidelma - Connor Ben born 30/09/09...9 days early
Treats - Isabel Rose born 30/09/09...7 days early
HumphreysCorner - Matthew John born 01/10/09...2 days late
Willmouse - Henry John born 02/10/09...15 days early
Rubyslippers- Ruby Francesca born 02/10/09...3 days early
Patmum - Adam james born 03/10/09...3 days early
JamesDavidsMum - Alexander Ngawaka born 03/10/09...1 day late
Neon - Thomas (Thom) Laurence born 03/10/09...
Lix - Phoenix Tabitha born 05/10/09...5 days early
BellaCullen - Nathaniel Alexander born 05/10/09... 3 days late
HappyTangerine - Joseph Richard born 05/10/09...5 days late
Smallone - George Robert born 5/10/09...12 days early
KKKKaty - Hamish William born 06/10/09...4 days early
Sammysam- Girl born 06/10/09....9 days late
Littlepea72 - Faith Scarlett born 07/10/09...5 days early
Sugarkane - Aiden Riley 8/10/09...born on due date
Jules88 - Artemis Arte born 10/10/09
Fluffycats = Ella Rose born 10/10/09
Andrea75 - Benjamin born 12/10/09
Mossop - Merryn born 12 Oct...9 days early
Lal23 - Maia Jo born 13 Oct...12 days early
IDOB - Caitlin Abigail born 14/10/09 ... 17 days late
Peachespaige - Frederick William Patrick (Freddie) born 17 Oct...6 days early
saraheb - Robert James born 18/10/09... 10 days late
Flamesparrow - Carys Jean born 19/10/09...3 days late

I must keep telling myself this wont last forever, but just when you think its getting better, it gets worse, but its the weekend & my DH will have to take over some off the night feeds....that will help alot. I like what you said Fidelma, about all the other mums up at the same time i will think about that tonight. Also some of us were talking about the bleeding & pains....i have just taken my period 4 weeks after having Faith, so now i know what the pains were leading up to, i think because its been so long since having one, i forgot they would return, but like someone said, it arrived with no warning & heavy, be prepared if you are going out, just incase!

Treats, what is the tigger in the tree?? Sarah my HV isnt really a nice woman to be honest, and she still thinks Faith should be only taking 3 oz bottles, wont give anything for the reflux & says she is just a greedy baby & i shouldnt give her anymore milk, easy to say when you dont have to listen to your baby screaming. Im just going with what i think to be honest.

MHCB...well done

HC....how are things with you?

trelism and princessmel-gosh, you both had some ups and downs. So glad of the happy outcome.

Flame-chin up my lovely, am thinking of you.

littlepea-I seem to remember that when I bottlefed DD1 the I ended up making up more than 8 bottles a day, some with just 2 oz used as a top up for the copious amounts she was already drinking. Sorry you are feeling low at the moment.

It would seem that Matthew is a baby that is only happy being held or with is nose buried in my boob. If not he cries. Still sicky and doesn't settle well at night between his 2 hourly waking.

DH home so better get some tea on.

Big wave!

HC
x

I hope I am not the last! After being induced ( horrible horrible) I had a short labour and a beautiful baby. Whoever said second births were easier is a liar!!! LOL!!! Born Wed 11.27 am 8lb 11oz.

Babies due

NewbeeMummy - 21/10/09 Girl
Hattie05 - 30/10/09 Girl

Babies born

theboob - Madison Rose born 14/09/09...14 days early
Devilsadvocaat - Charlie born 25/09/09...14 days early
LittleMissBliss - Marley born 25/09/09...10 days early
Mrs Kitty - Eliza born 26/09/09...9 days early
CalypsoFLame - Annalise Francoise born 28/09/09...2 days early
Ohmani - Patrick David born 29/09/09
Wibblydibs - Louis Dashiell born 29/09/09...7 days early
KleineMaus - Magnus born 30/09/09...on due date
Twinklegreen - Amelie Eva born 30/09/09...2 days late
Fidelma - Connor Ben born 30/09/09...9 days early
Treats - Isabel Rose born 30/09/09...7 days early
HumphreysCorner - Matthew John born 01/10/09...2 days late
Willmouse - Henry John born 02/10/09...15 days early
Rubyslippers- Ruby Francesca born 02/10/09...3 days early
Patmum - Adam james born 03/10/09...3 days early
JamesDavidsMum - Alexander Ngawaka born 03/10/09...1 day late
Neon - Thomas (Thom) Laurence born 03/10/09...
Lix - Phoenix Tabitha born 05/10/09...5 days early
BellaCullen - Nathaniel Alexander born 05/10/09... 3 days late
HappyTangerine - Joseph Richard born 05/10/09...5 days late
Smallone - George Robert born 5/10/09...12 days early
KKKKaty - Hamish William born 06/10/09...4 days early
Sammysam- Girl born 06/10/09....9 days late
Littlepea72 - Faith Scarlett born 07/10/09...5 days early
Sugarkane - Aiden Riley 8/10/09...born on due date
Jules88 - Artemis Arte born 10/10/09
Fluffycats = Ella Rose born 10/10/09
Andrea75 - Benjamin born 12/10/09
Mossop - Merryn born 12 Oct...9 days early
Lal23 - Maia Jo born 13 Oct...12 days early
Cookiemonster1 - Benedict Matthew born on 13/10/09...11 days late
IDOB - Caitlin Abigail born 14/10/09 ... 17 days late
Chocolaterabbit - Thomas born 14/10/09 ... 5 days late
Peachespaige - Frederick William Patrick (Freddie) born 17 Oct...6 days early
HalfMumHalfBiscuit - Bethan Rose born 16/10/09 ...1 day late
Dizzytrout - Emily Mae born on 17/10/2009...4 days early
saraheb - Robert James born 18/10/09... 10 days late
Kowaikiwi - Sadie May born on 19/10/09...9 days late
Flamesparrow - Carys Jean born 19/10/09...3 days late
JellytotZ - Emma Grace born 19/10/2009... 2 days early
Heylottie - Violet Dixie 21/10/09 ... 12 days late
Princessmel - Frederick Nicholas (freddie) born 24/10/2009... 3 days late
Mrshappy - Phoebe born 25/10/09 ... 3 days late
littleblessing - Molly Kathleen 28/10/09 ... 9 days late
MeHimCatBlob - Sophia Isabella 28/10/09 ... 3 days late
Hackneybird - Joe Lyle born 29/10/09 ... 14 days late
Trellism - Judith born 1/11/09 ... 7 days late
Ronniemummy- Millie Rose 4/11/09- 11 days late
dogstar?
Sparklytwinkletoes?
SassJ?

hi still only read half the posts. my ds has been very loud and in our faces since ds2 was born and the others are doing well but they all need extra time.i have been giving them all a quick massage after their baths and it has really made a difference.hard as its another thing to do but worth it for calmer happier children.i use either massage oil or olive oil.AND YES I AM EXHAUSTED !!!

Congratulations MeHimCatBob and ronniemummy

mel I am so and at your midwife. I don't think I could have coped with taking 2hrs to deliver the placenta, you did amazingly well.

trellism 6 day labour? That brought me out in a cold sweat!

littlepea, it's so hard isn't it? But fidelma is right, we're all up at the same time walking around like zombies but still somehow managing to feed. I just keep saying "this is temporary" to myself.Still doesn't stop me crying my eyes out sometimes though.

Bella so glad the op went well

HC Joseph wants to be held or on the boob all the time as well, I find it exhausting and really restrictive, especially the co-sleeping. The cradle swing helps, as does the bouncer someone gave us but I miss all the things I used to be able to do, esp preparing meals to cook. Will be getting to grips with the slings this weekend, hope it makes a difference-will let you know.

flame big hug, you sound like you're going through it at the moment.Hope you feel better soon.

Like everyone else, I am shattered. My cough is still bad and is really intefering with Joseph's sleep when he's on me-I keep waking him up. His cluster feeding at night has been a real challenge and last night I was so sore that I sat and sobbed for hours. Its the closest I've come so far to sending DH out for formula. DH took Joseph out in the car again-I must have been tired as I woke up at 7am. Apparently I woke up and fed Joseph twice-I have no memory of it. Found some videos online of breastfeeding positions and tried them out today. The pain has all but disappeared in my left breast and he's feeding far more efficiently from it. Right one is still a bit sore but it's his favourite and still has a blister so hopefully that will improve.He's fed roughly every 1.5 to 2hrs today and has finally worn himself out.

Can you all do me a favour and shout at me if I don't mention that I've gone out at least once each day next week? I have a tendancy to withdraw into myself when things are tough and this enforced isolation is doing me no good at all. I have a raincover for the pram now and have ordered a portable breastfeeding pillow so no excuses. I started my OU Modern languages degree this week and do a lot of studying in the wee hours. Have already "met" another bf mum online on the course who was up at the same God-awful time of the morning and we are planning to meet up locally. Am stupidly nervous-I don't really know anyonne in my area as I was working all over the UK. I was the only woman in the company I worked for for 8 years so have almost forgotten what a girly chat is(or how to have one)!

Love to all x

Congratulations MeHimCatBob and ronniemummy. Sorry to hear the induction was horrible rm. My first birth was so long and painful so my 2nd (induction) was painful but quick and not much pushing so I found it better. My 3rd (this one) was all natural, less painful but pushing was harder.

HT-meant to say that someone at school has leant me a swing thing with lights and music but of course Matthew doesn't like it. Still put him in the rocker chair but only DH can get him to sleep in that. I suppose it is because he knows DH isn't going to get a boob out. Let me know how the sling goes because I think that may be the next step although being only 5ft I am worried about backache.

Also, when I feed laying down I have him on his side but have to hold my boob for him. My arm underneath me gets pins and needles, don't quite know where to put my arms.

I'm another one up all night at the moment, so we are all definitely not alone. The lack of sleep is so hard, I've sobbed through nights too. Think we've discovered the meaning of colic now well & truly. Last night she screamed from 10-5am and she started at 9 tonight. I'm now sleeping laying on the couch whilst she sleeps on the oven under the extractor fan with it on full! Helps for a bit anyway.
Hi to everyone else up all night
kk

Congratulations Ronniemummy Lovely name .

Only two more to go now!!

Hi everyone, congrats to ronniemummy!

I hope everyone had better nights, everything seems so much worse when you are tired. I can't recommend a bedtime bottle highly enough for those who are bfing. I either have less milk or a rubbish letdown when I'm tired so I would be up all evening feeding non-stop if I didn't do ebm. I feed at 7ish and 9ish and then go to bed and leave DH to give 3-4oz at about 10.30, this knocks him out and DH is usually in bed by a reasonable hour. Then by the time he wakes for his next feed I've had a good chunk of sleep.

Littlepea, do you think she just wants to suck? Have you tried a dummy? She'll soon spit it out if its milk she really wants.

HC and HT I can really recommend a sling, George will happily settle in mine even if he's screaming the place down and I can get on with things. He does like to be squashed up tho, I think he wishes he was still inside me! I'm 5'1" and don't have any back problems, I have a pouch sling and it holds them really close to your body so you stand straight rather than feeling like you're being pulled forwards.

As for feeding lying down, I lie on my side and hold him tummy to tummy, with his mouth a bit higher on my nipple than when sitting up, latch him on, then put a rolled blanket behind his bum to keep him against me. Bottom arm bends up towards the head board and goes under the pillow and top arm either by my side or over him to hold his shoulders in place.

I'm having issues with DD at the moment, she's really over zealous with DS and I'm finding it really hard not to lose my rag with her when she's hurting him. She doesn't seem to be jealous, she just won't leave him alone, and is really rough with him. The only thing that seems to be helping is trying to force him on her! So I offer cuddles with him as much as I can, I'm trying to make her sick of him so the novelty wears off!

Hi everyone!
Congrats to Ronniemummy and MeHimCatBlob!!

Thanks for your story Trellsim, thank goodness it all turned out ok. A cord less than a foot long is !!

All of you who are having trouble with babies not settling in moses baskets etc, can I ask how they were when they were only a few weeks old? I remember dd settled lovely in her moses basket for the first 3 weeks, and slept a LOT, then after that she seemed to wake up literally 5 mins to the second after I layed her down. And only wanted to be on my shoulder.
Currently Freddie is sleeping well in his but I am aware this could change, he is still only 2 weeks old...
Ds was different to the other 2 and he didn't settle in his basket atall, straight from birth. Or bouncy seats etc.

HT I was not coping very well delivering the placenta, but I had no choice! It was horrible.

twinklegreen I did buy the Lifft sling. I am still not sure if it is the correct size. It is quite tricky getting him in it. But on the website it says to 'wriggle' him in so that makes it sound like it's supposed to be tight. I haven't really used it yet as Freddie seems to either be feeding or asleep in his crib/pram etc. I am planning on using it when I collect dd at lunchtimes from nursery. So I don't have to get the pram out of the car for a 5 minute trip. This should happen next week when dh is back at work. But actually a lot of mums are doing a combination of the morning, midday and 3 o'clock lifts to help me out. Is your one tight/snug??

afternoon all - have finally managed to read through the whole thread - though it looks as though Maia's about to wake up for another feed.....

Reading the birth stories reminded me about something when I was having Maia - I progressed very quickly once I was in the assessment room, was 8-9cm dilated when I was transferred to a birthing room. Anyway - when I was in the birthing room the mw said "looks like this baby is going to be breathed out". When it came to the pushing stage mw was telling me to push, I was saying it was too sore and could she "tell me more about that breathing out thing..." All I could think about at that time was how I wished I'd read more onthe childbirth topic about breathing out the baby. So at least you know I was thnking about mumsnet at the appropriate time!

Mel - Maia wouldn't settle at all in her moses basket, so she spent a couple of weeks in her carrycot until we finally got her a cot. She won't settle in it either - looks like she just prefers being in bed with us.

Re using sling on school run - I planned to use ours for the school run too - but its easier to use the car seat in our travel system than faff anout getting her in and out of car seat and then in and out of sling too.

HT - glad that the bfing is going better and that your nipples are recovering. Don'tbeat yourself up if you end up using a bottle of formula - it's really not the end of the world and if it takes the pressure off you and makes you feel happier then that's good for the baby. I'll try and remind you to get out if I can - it's certainly keeping me sane even if I just go for a walk round the block. It'll be harder now that the weather's getting colder and it's getting dark earlier, but that's why it's more important. Glad you've found someone to share with in the local area - it's so important.

princessmel - do you swaddle? Isabel didn't like her Moses basket at first, but settles reasonably well now that we swaddle her. I think - like everything - these things go in phases.......

Like the new biscuit smiley!! Very LOL!

Hi treats
Yes we do swaddle but not everytime and not too tight. I do it more in the night really. I wrap him in a sheet and then put a blanket over the top.
Freddie is doing fine at the moment, I was just wondering whether the mums on this thread who were having trouble with settling, had been having trouble from day 1, or if their babies had started off being ok in their baskets/cribs then stopped liking them after a few weeks. This is what happened with dd. And ds1 never liked being in them! We'll see what happens with Freddie.

I'm in on my own at the moment. Well with Freddie! He's in his crib and I'm watching Strictly.
Dh took the dc's to their school halloween disco then onto the fireworks display with my sister.

Hope everyone's ok.

Apparently short cords don't show up on scans all that well and it would not have been a problem had my placenta not been so high (I was complimented on how nice and high it was at one of my ante-natal appointments).

Will probably blub through X Factor now as I spent last week's episode hanging off the mantelpiece having contractions and went to hospital the same night.

Judith has discovered that she'd far rather wee once her nappy is removed and, just before her first bath, piddled all over DH. She's a bit grumbly this evening, as she's discovering digestion for the first time. It's hard to tell the fireworks from the baby farts.

hello all

sorry not been around much - was away for 2 weeks with hardly any internet access

am back at home

DD is 5 weeks - she is now 8 lbs 8 oz

she was 6 lbs 3 oz when she was weighed at 10 days - all that feeding is doing something

i will try to catch up on everyones' news but i had a question about cluster feeding

whose baby does it and for how long? Ruby feeds a lot early eveing until 9 ish. Has been going on since she was around 2 weeks old ... does anyone know how long it lasts

Morning all.

Congrats to trellism ronniemummy and mhcb Lovely names!

My ds1 had a short cord too and I ended up having a ventous to suck him out and then he was only just out because of the length. When I was pushing him out it was like a yo yo, his head just kept popping back up! Bit longer than yours though Trellism.

Freddie is still feeding every 1.5 to 2 hours but thankfully settles in his crib well.

ht fresh air defo helps and I find baby sleeps better too.

Ive forgotten what your posts said now...
Ill pop back later.

thanks for all the good wishes - birth story was apparently quick - mild pains from 3am, chekced in hospital at 3pm - 1cm dilated so sent home but pain ok. By 7.30 pain very bad with TENS and paracetamol so back to hospital where i had the last labour room and was found to be 5cm - had G&A and then a shot of diamorphine which apparenlty helped (according to MW and DP but not my memory!). Demanded more diamorphine at around midwife only to be told i was 10cm. Sophia arrived after 18mins of pushing at 00.33am - in my hazy memory of the birth, the stitches were way more painful!

main issue for me is breastfeeding -if one more person tells me that if it hurts then I'm doing it wrong I think i will scream - it hurts when she latches on although having seen the BF councillor and been told I'm doing everything right did make me feel better - am battling on with Lansinoh and painkillers but still have nights where i am in tears the whole way through. not helped at present as both Sophia and I have upset stomachs due to antibiotics which i am taking for a utereine infection - of happy days!!

still, she's adorable and I wouldnt chnage her for the world

sorry for the bad typing

MeHimCatBob - sounds like bf for you is like it was for me first time round. It turned out that DD1 had a tongue tie ... but it took weeks for anyone to notice! I asked mw after mw and eventually saw one whose daughter had the same problem so she recognised it straight away. As soon as we knew what the problem was I was shown different ways to hold her that would help, and with the aid of buckets full of lansinoh we got through it. Ended up bf'ing for 2 years. So my advice would be to hang in there and keep asking for help. SOmeone may well come along with the answer!

mehim
i was told DD's latch was fine in hospital and it wasn;t as i had blisters on both nipples and feeding was horrid

it took around a week to get DD's latch sorted - MW helped me

basically had to unlatch her quite a few times during a feed as she was just sucking on the nipple not having a "breast" feed

also, try a different hold - rugby ball hold was good to getting a better latch

DD is now 5 weeks and feeding really well but the inital week was hard

Matthew feeds from 7pm ish until 10pm ish then zonks until 1am ish when he wakes for the rest of the night . DD2 used to feed all evening too but only woke once a night for a feed. Sooooo tired and not helped by DD1 having dancing at 9am yesterday and a cinema party at 9am this morning. Like having a 7 day school run.

Agree that having all my stitches done was far worse than the labour. More G&A used.

DD1 has been a total nightmare tonight and I ended up shouting at her so she has gone to bed crying and now I feel bad.

Here's hoping for a better night for everyone. Off to look up pouch slings.

Big wave!

HC
x

trellism - just read your birth story with a tear in my eye. I had an ECS last time and had the shakes just like you say. Very daunting. I was shouting to the surgeons 'I'm shaking' but they ignored me. I was so out of it I didn't realise it was just my top half shaking.

Well done you. Take it easy after such an ordeal. I didn't realise how much an ECS takes it out of you especially after a very long labour.

Hope everyone else is doing well and have survived the weekend. With another DC plus baby its certainly a challenge.

MeHimCatBlob - it hurts when DD latches on initially but then feels ok. Apparently this initial latch on pain is worse if your breasts are v engorged with milk and if you squirt a bit of milk out first by hand it doesn't hurt as much. Hope this helps.

pm ds1 would not settle in the moses basket at all. resorted to dangling my boob into the basket to feed him to sleep in really desperate times. not a good look. ds2 completely opposite. he's 6 weeks now and still happy.

ruby cluster feeding - ds1 all evening up to 4 months ish. ds2 feeds like this in the morning.

ds1 is COMPLETELY over zealous with ds2. he is constantly squashing cuddling him to excess. it's a relief when he goes to bed! oh bless him. i know he means well but it's really annoying.

charlie is so huge. he's inbetween growing out of 0-3 clothes and fitting into 3-6. some smaller 3-6 month stuff fits him perfectly. can't believe he's wearing some of these clothes already that ds1 was in so much later. he's a real smiley bab. it's going so fast!

am completely gabbling, sleep deprivation taking its toll...

Hi all!

I finally had my baby girl on November 4th. We had a wonderful homebirth. I woke with enormous pressure down below about 2am and was terrified the baby was just going to fall out. But i wasn't feeling contractions as such so i was reluctant to call the midwives and wake them unnecessarily. Luckily pain took over and i did call, they arrived about 3am i think and we chatted over a cup of tea. Then everyone watched me pace around my front room once the contractions began - the gas and air came out although i was so scared of running out like it did last time that i was using it really sparingly.
I started to push at 4.20 and dd3 was born at 4.21am!
It was so perfect, with dd3 being born in the same spot of our front room as dd2 was. I had my wonderful midwife come out even though she wasn't on duty, as she'd requested to be called if i went into labour. And i was able to bath in the comfort of my own home whilst the midwives packed up. Then me and dp sat and admired dd3 waiting for our other two to wake up from upstairs and come and meet their little sister.
Both big sisters have taken to their little one very well, arguing over whose turn it is for a cuddle.
We are still deliberating over names! 3rd time round is not so easy name choosing! but we think we are nearly at decision stage .

Congratulations to others Trellism and MeHimCatBlob and Hackney bird.

Newbeemummy how are you?

Forgot to congratulate Ronniesmummy also