Due November 2009 - Remember, remember we're due in November, but not yet quite ready to pop!

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oh mumsie how scary for you! Hope you are resting now. How did you get home? Did someone help you? How are you feeling now?

I have felt like someone has put led in my legs so walking is very very slow and a little painful right now. I probably should go and get it checked out, but I just cannot be bothered with being fobbed off, and sent packing. I went swimming with DD and DH today, and it was just so slow. I had serious indigestion made worse by lying in the water and could not run around after DD, after 20 mins I got out and left them to it as I felt so achey!

Yesterday, my bump felt very heavy and like pressure was being put on my pelvis. I don't know why, but I feel that this baby might come early. I don't mean like now early, but not 40wks. He just does not seem very comfortable or happy in there. Not sure if that makes sense? Its probably just paranoia!

My poor friend who has just had her baby is struggling a little. She has gone home to stay with her folks until friday as her DH is working away, but baby is suffering from colic, sleeping in the day, awake at night. I cannot for the life of me remember what we did to help us through the harder early weeks so I don't know what to say to advise her. I feel like I should be able to suggest something...any ideas?

Oh, mumsie, how scary. I hope you're feeling better now. The doc's advice is good, you should be slowing down. Are your iron levels checked regularly? And you must have something for breakfast, even if it's a cereal bar on the run. It's bad enough to go without breakfast without the extra demands that pregnancy puts on your body. Take good care of yourself.

Lecture over.

mumsie sorry to hear about your morning, are you ok? I fainted when pg with DD and it was because I hadn't eaten. Could you maybe have a packet of tracker bars in your bag or something for mornings when it's all a bit of a rush?

pavlov I've had a similar thing recently but feel a little better now. Mine was caused by constipation though I think

I have no idea when this little one will arrive as I've had 3.5 weeks early and 1 week late with my other two!

skorpion x-posts but great minds think alike with the cereal bars

Thanks for sympathy everyone - always makes me feel better . Yes I am going to carry snacks now - I really should have done that before, silly of me really - but it's taught me a lesson that's for sure.

Pavlov your poor friend. No advice from me as I'm a first time mum but going to stay with her mother sounds like a good idea. Will help your friend get some much needed sleep - poor thing.

Hello all,

Koumak there is a link to the predictor page on a thread on pregnancy I think (will go have a look!

wook I got a letter to phone the midwife last week and she told me I had low iron 9.5 I started tablets last Thursday, not sure if you've been told this but I was told to take the tablet at night (prevents sickness) with a glass of fresh orange (helps more iron be absorbed). The midwife has said I need to be 11.5 or over to deliver at the birthing centre.

pav your poor friend, all she can do is try holding holding the baby in different positions to help ease colic (sort of hooked over the arm) and sleep whenever the baby sleeps. If she is breast feeding cut out onion, garlic etc to see if it helps, if bottle feeding try dr Browns bottles.

mumsie Poor you, hope you feel better now, try and slow down and take things easy. Maybe keep some snacks in your handbag for further missed breakfasts!

I have my inlaws coming to stay at the end of Sept so have decided once they've gone I'll try and sort all baby bits out before next lot of visitors on 25th Oct!
Still have ds2's birthday to sort yet !!!

Mumsie - sounds frightening, hope you're feeling better now.

Pavlov - I remember we 'sorted' our DCs sleep patterns out after the first week or so (i feel they should be allowed so much 'settling in' time!) by following a really strict Gina Fordy type routine for a few days - including waking baby to feed and keeping them awake for periods - wasn't easy nor would i do it for too long, but after a few days the baby seemed to realise and swap around it's day and night and also stuck to a vague resemblance of the routine on their own. It made me feel a little bit more in control knowing when approx when they would nap / feed etc. Would your friend give smething like this a go?

beepbeep I will suggest it to her, she may well be up for anything. But tigger you might have just stumbled on something with the food - She has had her family stay with her for the entire time, apart from the first few days, and the colic started after the first week or so.

She is from African/Middle Eastern background, and her family cook using lots of spices. Her mum in particular cooks lots of curry and certainly spices, onions, garlic will be used in I would suspect all her cooking, even if the food is not hot food, it will be highly flavoured. She once told me about how her DH awoke one morning to be cooked chilli omelette using birds chillies! So, maybe she is eating too much spice? I might mention to look at her diet and adjust, see if it makes a difference.

And if it doe not work, I will suggeste bbepbeep's advice too.

Pavlov - def suggest the food changes first. Maybe she could check with her HV how she is winding the baby as well, I always found rubbing upwards and 'squeezing' slightly under the baby's ribs (whilst baby sat upright with chin cupped by other hand - if that makes sense? just so back is straight as poss so wind can come straight up rather than baby hunched over keeping the wind stuck) far better than just patting. The squeezing bit makes is sound awful, but it's more of a massage i suppose.

mumsie you poor thing- can you have a day off resting tomorrow? As well as snacks, I carry water everywhere all the time now as thirst also seems to make me woozy.

tigger gosh, why do they say you need to be up to 11.5 to birth at the birthing centre,do you know? Where are you supposed to give birth if not??

Hello ladies, hope you are all well and Mumsie hope you are over your scare.

I am just back from the physio. And finally I have some answers.
Apparently my stomach muscles have been stretched to the point where they are ripping away from my ribs and all the fibers in between that hold them together are ripping too hence the agonising pain
I have some exercises, a nice tubey grip and a follow up in November.
It should be fixable after baby shows up but is probably a problem begun in my first pg and not picked up on then exagerated 12 years later by this one.
Physio said this is another big baby and would they let me have it naturally? She must have seen the look on my face because she quickly said there was no reason they shouldn't.

Pav have they reached space yet with that never ending loft conversion of yours?

ninja its been a long time hasn't it? I said to DH, you can build a house in 6 months, and they can't seem to do a half decent loft conversion.

They have done half the plastering upstairs now. Well, just over. They had already done half the plastering before they had to rip the floor up, so they have done slightly more than that.

Oops I pressed send before I was ready!
Plastering should be done by Friday, then doors in on Monday, then tidying up.

They will be apparantly gone by the end of next week, unless he gets another job or something.

Pavlov perhaps he's taken a bit of a liking to you? Sounds like he doesn't want to leave.

LOL, I wish it was that simple. I think it is more that he has run out of steam, money, enthusiasm etc and just cannot be bothered any more. Its not like he is attractive either grin.

Anyone else suffering from horrid indigestion. Acid indigestion which gaviscon is not helping today, got so bad a moment ago, I vomited a ton of gaviscon.

Pavlov, yes, I'm having issues. Weirdly, I'm hungry all the time too, even though I should probably try to cut well back on food to see if that helps - I'm trying to chug down large glasses of milk rather than eating extra portions. I've tried propping myself upright in order to sleep, but then my hips hurt like buggery so it's a bit tricky.

Ninja, auggh, you poor thing. I've got quite bad diastasis, but I've never heard of the muscles coming away from the ribs like that! My physio recommended the pilates for mums DVDs by Lindsey Jackson for after the baby's out - she says that they've been officially approved by some physio organisation.

Ninja - i meant to say how horrible you have the muscle trouble, it sounds really painful .

I forgot all about drinking milk tamlin I will give that a try. It kept me awake for the first time last night.

wook apparently thats the safe level recommended for birthing centres. If I don't get it up I'll have to go into the city (Nottingham) to give birth. I am trying really hard though as the birth centre is 15 minutes away but Nottingham is 50 minutes on a good run, longer at rush hour! (not a nice thought) I wonder if the level is different in different areas?

Tigger - I think it's cause of (small) chance of bleeding more than normal / not clotting or something if you have low iron levels - birthing centres won't take anyone who have any complications at all - 'just in case' and all that cause they have little emergency equipment. I know when i had DS at one, they looked closely at my 1st birth, including how much i'd bled afterwards etc, fortunately it was all normal otherwise i would have used a hospital.

Thanks Pavlov and Tamlin it is excruciating but I'm glad at least I have an answer now because I really thought that maybe it was all psycho symatic (sp?) when no one could find anything wrong with me. Tamlin apparently they are three fingers apart already so goodness knows what sate I'll be in by the end. Will check out the DVD though, thanks for the tip.

I have to get up in the night and drink strawberry milk. I find it works better than Gaviscon. Due to becoming such a fatty of late though I am trying not to guzzle it. (oh and for some reason it has to be Sainsburys Strawberry Milk).

Tigger I don't know if you can stomach it but I really craved Black Pudding from about 5-12wks and the MW said they were amazed by my iron levels.
I'm sure that had something to do with it.

DS is doing the dishes as we speak. I should go and dry up I suppose. Very slack mummy laying here on the sofa...

lol thanks ninja but the thought of it makes me want to vomit
I have been trying to lots of green veg and red meat.

beepbeep that rings a bell now (bleeding more) I had to take iron tablets with ds2 also but got my level up so fingers crossed I will again this time.

tigger have you tried spatone? You can take double dose in pregnancy, it might help?

Tigger my mum swears by hot milk and molasses (sp? that sweet stuff anyway!) Also plain chocolate, apricots apparently...
I can't even look at red meat or vegetables at the moment, particularly broccoli (sp??- brocolli??) Does bacon count? I don't eat lamb but I can just about manage beef casserole if it's a very wintry day outside. Spinach I do like though! All those years of being a vegetarian have taken their toll, I am still a bit squeamish about meat, pathetic really! Does anyone know any other good iron sources? Am I allowed a Guiness? (hopeful emoticon)
Iron tablet has made me feel dreadfully sick tonight.
Fingers crossed for you at the birthing centre.

Ninjacat what a relief to find a proper cause for feeling so bad, but what a gruesome sounding cause, poor you. Glad for you that it's sortable after the birth. How did they know you are having another biggun? Just by feeling?

Wook yes by touch, size of bump and 20wk scan.
DS was 99th centile so to be expected I suppose.
It might be that they have to stitch the muscles back together but will try to avoid that one if poss.