Due in June 16!! - the before we all graduate!!

[katzguk]

one new thread as requested!

hoepfully this will get those babies to start appearing again!!

Still nothing here!

have tried everything:
pineapple
raspberry leaf tea
Clary sage/Rose/Jasmine oils!!
SEX!!
White trousers

nothing!

well today might try everything all in one go!

Hello Everyone

Welcome back Jezebel!

Coop where are you moving to in Dec/Jan?? back here or still somewhere hot and gorgeous?? Although I like the idea of living in a gorgeous climate, I would hate to have to do all the moving you do for dh's job I couldn't cope with that.

Hello Tea I will not make any comments on the fact that you are still here. Just keeping my fingers crossed for ya.

I can't remember what was happening with Lua today...caesar or induction?? Good luck to you whichever it is.

I wonder where Lynny is, I expect she is having to take it easy or being monitored. She wasn't going to be allowed to go over 37 weeks I think..? Which for her will be about next week.

Charley, have fun painting the bathroom, then I think you should call it a day!! You will be able to do things once Pod is here, it's so much easier with only 1 newborn who can't get around

I am going to put the gloss coat on baby's chest of drawers (my old ones from home!!) and then that's us finished! The carpets arrive on friday and we'll be able to move back in properly at the w/e. That should take a fair few days to find everything again, but at least we'll be in!!! I haven't been using washables since the upheaval it was all too much and I feel dead guilty about that darn landfill

Once the carpets are down (37 wks), that is the day I officially begin labour 'proceedings'; R.L. Tea, pineapple, bouncing etc, packing labour bag.

2 weeks free accomodation for an Italian meal is pretty good It has been so great not having to cook and just be in a nice environment!!

Ooooh the nursery I have dd on the waiting list for called and said they have a place for her at the end of July!! She'll begin after our holiday in mid August!! I am so nervous for her and excited too, she is very ready for some more stimulation and it will give me time with the new baby. 2 mornings a week for 4 hours, 10 minute walk away too, so not much time spent getting there and back. Time to buy name labels and a peg bag My baby!!!! Any tips on first day at nursery anyone?

Hi All
Anyone on for live chat?????

Hi to Jezebel , and THANKYOU Kat for new thread. lets hope all the babes get on this one.

Spent 5 hours at hospital having tests, coz BP was up again tuesday, All o.k though.

I could have found out the babies sex today in Ultrasound, but thought i've waited this long, i might as well stay in the dark.
Saw babies little face with nose all squashed against cervix and saw it opening and closing mouth, very cute.

check out this for some seriously weird ways to bring on labour

pregnancy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=www.gentlebirth.org/archives/natinduc.html

mmm hope that works

ages since I posted here, but yes, am live for a chat and also suffering the blood pressure thing

in fact, just thinking about it raises my BP, you can't win.

There's no protein in my urine, I don't want to keep spending 5 hours in hospital to be told I'm fine - my husband simply can't keep coming home from work

Oh i meant the link works not the suggestions
I don't know how appropriate or medically safe they are, but funny to read.

I think i'll just wait and keep myself distracted if possible.

Bye for now Your probably all having lunch.
I'm off to bed....

Hi Mog

Do u have swollen legs and feet or headaches, silver spots in vision???

sorry Mog
really am off to bed now,
Take care

afternoon all,

tea-had to laugh at your ds-how cute is that?!!

jonah-think your'e brave trying "it" again.once was enough for me-just wanted to convince myself i still know how to.

charley-glad you enjoyed your indian.we had chinese which was also yummy.

mrsw-glad to see im not the only one cat napping in the afternoon.i was up at 7am this morning and asleep again by about 11am!!

coop-ive also been having weird dreams.mine are really scary,as i have the baby and the midwife says "its a girl!".i wonder how often they get the sex wrong.

hi uwila-nice to hear from you.hopefully it wont be too long before we're all on the post natal thread-if we've got the time.

hi trib-havent had weird tummy pains-just lots of aches in the lower part of the bump,but im sure it must be normal to get all these aches and pains,especially as we're reaching the end.

hi lippy-bet you cant wait to move back home.bet you'll also miss not being waited on.must be lovely not having to cook.

uki-sorry to hear about your bp but at least youve now been chcked out and how lovely to see the baby again,before the birth.

hi mogwai-nice to hear from you again.sorry to hear of your bp also.

Afternoon all,

Mrs Wed, that?s so funny about your DS and the dr?s visit. Just out of interest, what age does this start being an issue (better be prewarned if bump is a boy)?

The only reason I can be bothered with ?it? is that I am DESPERATE to get the baby out. Desperate times call for desperate measures . Like you say Bubb, its nice to know I still can

Uki, glad everything is still okay. It must have been fantastic seeing his/her face at this stage!

I've had a bit of a stressful day today. My grandma passed away in the early hours of the morning. She had been v. ill for a while, so it was no shock and probably a blessing for her. However, the main stress came from the family arguments which then ensued an hour later. Honestly, families!! Then my mw appointment put me in an even worse mood as she STILL thought the baby was potentially breech, then decided the heartbeat was too fast. She changed her mind about both, but it didn't either instill my confidence in her (not great anyway), or do much for my stress levels. Okay. Grumble over. The lovely news i had today was a friend of mine, due on the same day, has just given birth to a little girl. The whole thing took an hour, so there's a good birth story for all your 2nd timers....

LUA????

Glad there's at least a couple of you as disorganised as me in the nursery department Cot mattress arrived today so dp can finally put the cot up when he gets home - I'll have to shield my bump from the inevitable profanities I suppose

Jonah - I'm sorry to hear about your gran - it's always sad and a bit of a shock even if they have been ill for ages. I know what you mean about death and family arguments - in my family though they tend to at least wait until the funeral! (But then the disagreements last for the rest of their lives

I hate getting inexperienced mws - I suppose they all have to gain experience somehow though don't they? I'm sorry she worried you. I had one a few weeks ago who couldn't get a blood sample from either of my arms until about the 8th attempt - I'm not squeamish, but the way she kept digging around in the same holes made me feel a bit sick.

Lippy - Good for you - you sound so sorted! I'm very very put the sealant on the bathroom today, so will be able to put the coloured paint on tomorrow. I'm quite excited. But nervous because I was a bit brave in the end and got this traditional greeny bluey duck egg colour (late Victorian stylie) for the panelling, instead of the safe sensible cream. So I hope it works... Good luck with the glossing - I HATE using gloss - it's just so messy and the preparation takes forever. Are you painting the inside of the drawer fronts? I have these decisions to make when I get round to tarting up the kitchen cupboards... Well done for getting dd in your fave nursery! Dp and I are already worrying about getting Pod in the school of our choice. By the way - slings - Cheapest Maya Wrap I've found is £28.03 here Still not sure myself. I do like the idea of a Maya, but don't know if the rings and the tail will look too big on my small frame. Thinking about going the whole hog and getting a tie-yourself Ellaroo...

Coop - glad the Fybogel's working for you! Piles are very common for pg ladies aren't they. I bet a few of us have them, or the beginnings, but we're too shy to mention them

Trib - I get something like your pain which hurts when I press it - it's not as painful as yours sounds though, but I put mine down to "muscle confusion" (made that up, but I hope you know what I mean)

Uki - sorry I missed your "live" chat and sorry you've been in hospital with your bp - Isn't it sweet seeing your baby sucking and stuff in there? you're very strong not asking about the sex! I reckon you're having a BOY!

Hi Mogwai! There are quite a few of us on here (myself included) who've had bp worries. I did have a trace of protein too, but apparently that's gone now.

hello all

well i worked out today that my bump would appear to be not getting any bigger!! i put my coat on for the first time in weeks (first time its rained) and it fits the same, therefore bump has not really changed in size since about 35 weeks 4 weeks ago, my notes say soemthing similar. So just waiting to see midwife tomorrow who will measure again and then might have to have a scan to check on the little one. Its still wiggly and hicupping so not worried on that score. will post tomorrow when i know more.

jonah-really sorry to hear about your nan.i lost my great nan who was 104 last year and sometimes it is a blessing,for them.its always the people that are left behind that tend to suffer.
great to hear about your friends new baby though-an hour cant be bad.how long was her labour with her first one?

Hello all
Jonah - Sorry to hear about your Grandma . Hope you are OK. Thanks for the positive 1 hr birth story too. I needed to hear that.
Kat - Try not to worry about the coat as the bump begins to drop towards the end and so stops growing out if that makes sense. The fundal height measurements are expected to decrease towards the end too ie you will measure bigger at 37 weeks than 39 etc. again due to the bump dropping a bit. Main thing is an active baby and it is good you can see the midwife tomorrow to get everything checked.
Charley - Yay for mattress. You realy are the DIY queen. I don't think the piles have arrived yet, but had a feeling they might without a little fybogel help lol. It is very common for us preg ladies from what I have read.
Hi Bubb and Uki sorry we missed you
Hi Mog - Sorry you have been plagued with BP scares too. What a nuisance, but at least you know all is OK.
Lippy - Nearly there with the house. We will be back to the UK in Jan. Don't know where yet though and prob won't find out until Nov at the earliest. V annoying. It isn't easy to keep moving about but you do get to live in some great places too ie York which was fab and now Cyprus . Actually you will be glad to know it has rained on and off all day today! Yay for the nursery too. DD started creche when she was just 11 months (Awww!) so no real advice for starting nursery from me. She will thrive there though. DD loves creche and it actually quite put out when I pick her up.
Trib - I have a pain at the top of my bump. It reminds me of having a chinese burn like the skin is being stretched. I have a few other sore points too but I think these are bruises from the bump booting me. Hope you are OK.
Charley, I don't think we will hear from Lua until her little one is here. I have been thinking of her today and hope the induction worked.

Nice to catch up with you all, have been very slack about posting. Phew this thread is exhausting!!

I don't think I've grown much either, just recently. I didn't think I had stretch marks but I've got some under my bump. Dh refused to believe me cos he thinks stretch marks always run vertically and these are horizontal. Are they going to get worse? I think I've got off lightly (and belly button still an innie!!)

Posted too soon. I was going to tell you all about my hospital visit. Well......I don't want to go there. The actual hospital is very much like any in the UK. All the wards are two or four beds and it did seem quite quiet too which is good. The lady showing us around was a real sweetie too and I felt quite sorry for her as we were not a very positive group and one lady was particularly vocal although she was saying exactly what I was thinking. Getting there is a pig. A half hour drive and then the parking is hilarious. DH will have to dump the car and get me sorted before parking. Have to walk through big entrance hall and then wait for (very slow) lift to first floor so not looking forward to that bit but could be worse. They monitor you when you arrive for 30 mins and then you go to a two person room to labour until you are 8 cm or so. This upsets me cos even if I am quiet I could do without hearing someone else in labour and I will feel self conscious about things plus there is no bath available as we were promised and I don't want to share a loo etc while in labour. I knew we couldn't deliver in a pool but we were told that a bath was available for pain relief and this is not the case.
The delivery room was awful and nearly made me cry on the spot. I am sure I won't care at the time but it was SO clinical like an operating theatre with all instruments etc on display, bright lights etc. Just SO different to what I had with dd. It appears that it is still standard to offer us shaving enemas and episiotomies so I have to be aware and ready to say no to all of those (can just see m/w eyes rolling already) and they put the baby in a heater incubator for two to three hours although this is by our beds. I can say no to this too (as I probably will) and I have to say no to the Vit K jab and sign for that too and wait for my UK m/w to bring in the oral dose. If I want to leave early (as I will) I have to get the paperwork sorted and sign that I am discharging against medical advice which is a bit scary too.
All this coupled with no pain relief means that I am not looking at this very positively I am afraid. Our m/w who came with us kept comparing it to the NHS but as I pointed out if I was in the UK I would be delivering at home with my hired pool so there was no comparison for me. And any way you look at it it can't compare with the military hospital that is 3 mins drive from my house and would have gas and air and birth balls and UK speaking midwives etc. I feel SO let down that the clinic is not going to be ready for me unless there is a miracle as I have been constantly reassured that everything will be OK by the time I deliver. The probs started in November fgs and I still cannot get my head round the fact that they are making me go to Limassol because of no op theatres which I will be gobsmacked if I need. I know safety is important but it is not the only factor when you have a baby. I left feeling scared! When I visited York expecting my first I left feeling excited. Quite a difference. I am worried that I will panic adn get scared and lose the confidence I have in my body to do this job. On the other hand I just want to get on with it and get it over and get my baby and get home to dd and dh. It has to be done and I have no choice so I just want to do it and so I can stop worrying about it. Dreading it all now and finding it all quite hard. It is too late for me to get back to the UK or arrange anything private out here (what all the Cypriots do) and I know in my head it will be OK cos it has to be. But.......... I feel a bit stressed by it all. Sorry to use you all to let off steam.....and sorry for the length of this post. I will be more rational tomorrow I am sure and writing it down doesn't make it seem as bad. Just no pain relief aargh......Hope it is quick.

Hi Mog - Sorry to hear about your stretchmarks. I wouldn't think they would get any worse. I still have an innie too, but I think I have the deepest belly button in the world lol. The place I got stretchmarks and wasn't expecting them was on my boobs after dd was born!!

oh coop-i really feel for you.must be hard enough being in a foreign country where not everyone speaks english and then have to go through all this hassle with the hospital.im sure you'll be absolutely fine though especially as you said if you were at home you'd like a home birth,where you wouldnt have much pain relief anyway.i know its not the same at all but i am a real coward and have even put on my birth plan that i want an epidural as soon as poss AND i want it kept topped up so i feel as little as poss.also i havent even been on a hospital tour.i did contemplate it but me being me decided i'd get too worked up about it so i havent bothered.im still not even entirely sure where the mat wards are when i do have to go in.at least with you having your second baby it'll hopefully be nice and quick and you'll be back home with your dh and dd before you know it.

No more babies arrived then?

Well I think I ate something funny from the Chinese and feel better now.

The baby hasn't arrived thank goodness. The nursery is still a tip because I was obviously waiting for it to be painted but low and behold that isn't done and isn't going to be done so I am really pissed off. They have authorisation to paint it now but the work man hasn't phoned to set a date. I'll just have to set a date in a few months and go and stay with a friend. I am sick of the stress of it.

Not really doing much here except roasting that is. I'll be glad to have this baby out, I don't think I could stand being pregnant in the summer. I am already rolling around my bed beached and sweating. I have to propel myself to turn over now. Not a great sight

Well desperate housewives tonight so I'm off to lol about in bed.

I hope everyone is well. Haven't caught up on the thread much.

Cooperoo, it does sound like a very difficult situation to be in - all you have been presented with is negatives (in comparison to your experience with DD) so it's not surprising you are feeling so stressed out and worried. Is there any chance you could accidentally stay at home too long and summon a midwife to you? Wish I had some more practical advice. We are all here to listen though, if nothing else.

JonahB, sorry about your gran, and even more sorry about the family arguments that followed.

The little boy 'issue' can start very early - a friend at a baby massage class was mortified when her 10 week old got a very obvious stiffy - or not for ages (another friend's 18 month old hasn't had one yet). It seems to be completely random. Embarrassing whenever it happens though

Trib, I'm suffering from all sorts of random aches and pains at the moment. Sometimes my stomach feels like it's going to burst open it's that tight and sore (stretch marks are coming along a treat!). Are you due to see your midwife soon? Perhaps it's worth a mention (but only if your midwife is a better one than JonahB's!)

Uki, sorry I missed you earlier. I was going to post when you were posting but I had a stroppy DS to contend with so had to go to the park instead. In the rain.

Mogwai, good to see you again.

Katz, I take it doing everything in one go yesterday didn't work?! You must feel like you're really, really late especially because DD was so early. After Friday I'll be the most pregnant I've ever been (DS was 10 days early) which will be odd.

Lippy, no real first day at nursery tips as DS started much earlier than your DD, but will you be able to go with her a couple of times before she actually starts, to help her get used to the idea?

Hope everything has gone well for Lua today. I wonder whether Lynny has been induced already?

Cross-posted with you Pink and Bubbaloo. Glad you are feeling better Pink. I have to say, I was starting to wonder whether it was a pre-labour clearout you'd been suffering with!

Bubbaloo - good for you

Cooperoo- I really do feel for you. I did bring this up with the people who came round doing the "XFactor" pay review last week. They were appalled and said they were going to look into it. I know this doesn't help you. I am not even pg but I am so pi**ed off with the whole thing. Remember also that as the baby will be born in a Cyrpiot hospital they will be offered Cypriot nationality make sure if this is the case you say NO as otherwise (if a boy) he will have to do Cypriot National Service (or so I have heard).

sorry- highjacking-
saying all I said above even if TPMH was open that would mean I would have to have an hr to hr and half journey just to get to a hospital were I can have gas and air!!!!!!!! and english m/w!!!!!!!!!!

Evening girls

still here

Coop - sorry to hear your hospital visit wasn't able to ease your concerns at all. Is it definitely too late to do something private?? You are right tho you will get through it coz we women are great at coping with anything...and once you're in the 'thick' of it you won't really care what the rooms look like, honest.

Jonah - so so sorry to hear about your grandma and the ensuing arguments, hope it was all peaceful for her.

Trib - I've been having loads of tight and sore feelings at the top of my bump...spoke to mw about it and she says it's muscular. I'm sure yours is too, but if you do get any accompanying dizziness, spots/lights before the eyes or nausea then do contact your mw as this along with high bp and protein are signs of pre-eclampsia...don't mean to worry you and I'm sure it's just muscles but don't overlook it if you have any of the other symptoms too - it never hurts to phone the mw - at least she'll be able to put your mind at rest.

Lippy - great news about the house being all but finished, it's nice to be waited on - but there's nothing quite like being back in your own (newly refurbished) home Re the nursery thing I'm afraid I don't have any useful tips either as ds started at his when I went back to work when he was 6 mths. However he's finished for now, but will be starting at the local school run nursery when they have a place available after his 3rd birthday in a few weeks...so I'll be asking you for tips I think when the time comes as he's become very used to the idea of being at home all the time very quickly !

Mogwai - hello again

Mrs W - ROLF re your dh taking ds to the doctors...he he he - that's exactly the kind of thing I would do . I must admit dealing with little boy issues is all so new to me - have 3 nieces aged between 5 and 15 but no nephews - so when I thought I knew it all about kids it's become very apparent I was wrong!

Lynny's last post sounded like she was almost saying goodbye for a while - wonder if she's just having a well earned rest for a while??

Pink - grrr about the decorating and general sh*t you had to put up with in the last few months...maybe staying with a friend will do you the world of good - someone to laugh and cry with...and share a bottle or two or wine with (once ds is here of course!)

Well....had a mw appoint today and she flatly refused to try a sweep and then informed me that my hospital has changed it's rules and now only induce at term +12 not +10 like the book says so I have to wait until a week tomorrow before they'll even try a sweep, and if that fails they'll induce 2 days after that, arrrrr! But.......have had a very obvious (large and messy urghhhh!) show this evening and the start of the period type pains again tonight, woohoo! so hopefully things will kick off by themselves in the next day or so (or sooner if I pray hard enough! )

Right better go and have the last slice of choc cake in the tin just incase babe does put in an appearance as I've promised I'll start the healthy eating again once dd is here!!!

Ooooooooooooohh Tea, that sounds exciting

You sneaked that in right at the end of your message! Hope start progressing quickly (and painlessly) now.

Will keep my fingers crossed for you.