Due November 2009 - we just can't stop chatting!

[BeckyBendyLegs]

A new thread!

thats a great sign. lol

EasyEggs I'm so so sorry to hear that. Would I be out of line if I said he was acting like a total arse? You poor thing, and on a day like today, too. I feel so angry and hurt for you. Will be thinking of you. We're all here if you need to talk. x

RE: "Underage and Pregnant" (can't remember who asked, sorry). I have been watching it, simply out of curioisty, as the girls are around my age. But I just end up getting angry and how either the mothers / partners of the mum-to-be are interfering or doing too little. I think one couple (Was it Kelsey and Chris?) - he drove me bonkers. He was like, "Well, I still want to go out and spend time with my mates, so I'm worried she'll be calling me asking to help out." Its your child FFS

Am still in so much pain, today the pain was so bad I was actually remdered entirely confused - I couldn't remember if I'd eaten, or taken my meds or paracetamol, couldn't even work out where the noise was coming from when the TV was on. I have pains in the side of my bump and on top. For about five seconds earlier, I had the most agonising pain shoot through around my pelvic area, though it was gone as soon as it had come. Have no idea what it was, but did spook me.

Sorry to rant. Just - UGH this pain! And a very childish part of me is sulking, thinking - "I have ME and BPD, why have I got MORE pains to deal with? Its not fair!". Am going to blame that on being so disorientated with it all hurting.

Bryn is still kicking away quite merrily, so at least I know he's okay. Going to try and get some sleep, have just got up to take some more pain killers. Can't walk, am having to shuffle along the floor

I really hope today is a better day for everyone.

Not doing much here today. Working, but only with one little one and DD is going to holiday club so she will be out from under my feet! I feel the need for some nice scrummy cake today so will have to search some out!

Couldn't sleep last night. Was up from about 1.30am - 4.30am constantly moving and feeling aggitated with restless legs and a painful bump

Morning all

easyeggs how are you feeling this morning?

Last day of my course today, leaving at lunchtime then flying up to Aberdeen to see my in-laws. I have my letter for the airline so am hoping that it's all plain sailing (or flying!) and I don't get any grief.

erika I really think you should get in touch with your midwife. If you're going to the Royal Sussex then there is a number on the front of your notes for the monitored line to the midwives there. Please phone them and explain what you're going through. Whilst spd can cause a lot of pain, and they can't get rid of it, you can get support belts etc. on the nhs which will make a huge difference.
More importantly, if you don't get help you can do long term damage your pelvis.
I can't stress how important it is that you get help. Struggling along will only make you feel worse physically and mentally ... and you won't get any medal for it

Sleep well?? What's that? Room next door to me this morning were banging about at around 4:30 ... sigh...

Sorry to hear the upsetting news over the past couple of days. Physical pain, emotional pain, pains-in-the-arses... Have been reading with sadness and thinking of you all, trying to send positivity your way so that hopefully something good can come out of these situations

As to sleep, I was woken at half 5 this morning by lower leg CRAMP - argh! What a rude awakening for myself and DH - he thought I was being murdered I think... agony.

Just popping in to say hi - my laptop seems to be broken, so I've had to come to the library to get my fix check emails.

I sincerely hope today is a better day for everyone. The sun is shining here, where yesterday it was p*ssing it down, so I'm hoping that's a good sign.

Big hugs to all of you in pain - very un-MN but I am feeling incredibly hormonal at the moment and reserve the right to hug all and sundry, whether you like it or not.

raggie am with you on that one, it's a killer!! My DH now wakes up partly and grabs my foot to pull backwards. It does work.
I was also told by the mw that tonic water can help, something in it but I can't remember what it's called ... quinine maybe?

Morning all, hoping everyone has a better day today. sending out hugs to all.

For cramp putting it on a cold floor helps, eg tile or stone.

Am going crazy. Told ds to clean his teeth when i meant go have his breakfast, luckily he realised mummy was being silly, and I gave him his juice in Daddy's glass instead of his plastic breakfast tumbler.
keep doing other silly things too.

Have just ordered the cotbed and mattress for Titchy which will arrive on the 2nd, so am happy but feel slightly anxious in case anything will go wrong now, (dont know why ordering the cotbed makes it worse but for some reason it does.)

Things are getting tougher for all of us. Easyeggs am so sorry for what you're going through. Your Dh is truly being selfish. Funny how men are made so differently..I hope its a little blip and he realises what he's done to you at this stage of your pregnancy. I am thinking of you..

Am so tired I can barely lift my arms these days. Heartburn is eating me up and i have to pack for our hols..the thought of it makes me tired! We really don't have long to go..its quite scary..for me the thought of dealing with more than 1, sleepless nights again and colic and burping makes me very very nervous!! It feels like just yesterday that I got rid of all those muslins! here we go again!

Big hugs to you all and courage too

Meant to say yesterday - thank you to all of you for your kind words, really appriciate them. Think my brain is gradually evaporating...

Scarlotti I'm going to PRH, but I think I will call them later. I text my MW earlier this week, and late last week, with pain related issues, am concerned about sounding like a broken record Seeing her tomorrow at the labour class (eek!!!) so will have a chat with her then.

Easyeggs I hope things are a little better for you today, thinking of you. x

Would anyone like a dog? I'm going to turn him into a fur blanket otherwise. He's driving me bonkers. Currently jumping around the garden, howling at the seagulls, he looks a bit like a dancing bear as he keeps going up onto his back legs...

Erika eeeek what is labour clinic?!

My antenatal classes start next Tuesday, am nervous... We're going to the NHS free ones on Tuesday nights, and the NCT (expensive) ones on Wednesday nights - what a hectic social () life we will be having...! Seriously though, is it all crawling on the floor with birthing balls and pretending to groan? I am a bit nervous.

Got my anti-D appointment and GTT/blood tests at the hospital tomorrow. Fun. Lemontop when is your app with the consultant? Good luck. I am sure they will be able to reassure you.

EasyEggs and Turtle, just want to say that I am thinking of you and hope you are doing OK under the circumstances.

Hello everyone, think it must be that time of the month for these men, grrrr.

Sorry to those of you having difficulties in this department.

So everyone is thinking of the antenatal classes already makes it all that more real that soon we will have our babies, omg omg omg!!! Panic.

I went to NHS classes with ds1 but never went to any with the others. It's a shame as I made some lovely friends there. Would be good to do again but no point me going and taking up a space when I don't really need to.

Erika so sorry you are in so much pain, it sounds awful. I really hope they can do something for you. And no not out of line for saying dp is a total arse - that just about sums him up right now

He completely ruined yesterday for me and I cried for all the wrong reasons over all the wrong hings rather than my dd which it was supposed to be about

Just want to add a HUGE thank you for all your lovely thoughts and words too x x

Anyway moving on..........

raggie Cramp - how annoying is it?!! I constantly at night get cramp in my right foot and lower leg, it's driving me mad. Apparently eating bananas helps because of the potassium. I'm going to try it when I've got the energy and time to go shopping.

Does anyone elses bump seem to just constantly wriggle/kick?! I swear she is hyperactive. She moves day and night, seems non stop but I'm sure she must sleep at some point Maybe I just eat too much chocolate and she gets so many sugar rushes (can you eat too much choc?!)

I hate being pregnant, worry if they don't move, worry if they move too much, so many things to constantly worry about.

Bump still not seeming to get any bigger so still worried about that.

Hopefully she will catch up in the next couple of weeks though. Knowing my luck she'll end up being a 10lb'er

EasyEggs good to hear from you. I don't think it would be taking a space up for the NHS class - think it might be good for at the minute, if you have the time? Yep, I can fully sympathise on the 'worry if it moves too much/worry if not moving enough'. Mine seems to have been moving constantly for the last 48 hours, I can't imagine when he has been asleep! But some days he doesn't seem to wriggle all that much. He definitely responds to sugar and I have been eating chocolate daily (oops) too! I'm sure it can't do any harm....

Same problem as Laugs, internet broke down, I'm now in an internet cafe next to a smelly guy so I couldn't even catch up properly. Really sad to hear all those negative stories about pains, especially those with problems with their partners. I think, mine if far from being understanding for my emotional problems, but expect me to be understanding for his big problems about broken computers and lazy workmates. But I do realise now that I'm still quite lucky. Strange that men seem to become too nervous at 6months. Anyway, I really hope you can all find a solution that is good for you and your children.

Had my last working day today, tomorrow off for Devon and Cornwall and then maternity leave. Work was really hard in the last couple of days but I guess the early start will mean some rather boring weeks ( when I will probably not go and check out all those museums in London)
Hope, the next couple of days will bring good news or progress in better directions for all of you.

Turtle & EasyEggs I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles. Take care of yourselves. I'm sure whatever happens it will be for the best.

Erika I hope you manage to speak with the midwife tomorrow to put your mind at rest. Nobody warns us of all these aches and pains when we fall pg.

I had totally forgotten all the niggles and sleepless nights I had when pg with DS and now I have a new ailment on my list, sciatica. Which I will say has eased as I think the baby has moved position and feels a bit higher up so it taken a bit of pressure off my lower regions! Also, this baby is a wriggler too and doesn't like it when I sit down to rest!

I'm officially on maternity leave this week. Felt I could have worked an extra 3-4 weeks but no work being offered. I've now got 9 weeks to fill up with nesting and chasing around after DS. Hoping it will go quickly!!

Start my NCT refresher antenatal classes next week. Looking forward to that.

I am thinking I may have gone a bit unhinged in this pregnancy and I wonder if I may think differently about some things in a few months.... does anyone else not feel remotely normal at the moment?

I made a bit of a melodramatic decision to bring my maternity leave foreard at the end of the summer term due to issues with my boss/ restructuring at my school. Since then I have tossed and turned every night stressing about the whole situation, getting ragey, playing situations out in my head again and again etc. I saw a colleague today and he made me see things in a different, much more laid back, way. He also reminded me that my boss is widely seen as a bully within the organsisation, and that I should not let her become a mountain instead of a molehill. It was all quite thought provoking and now has really made me question my judgements in the last couple of months.

I do wonder if the last year of miscarriages and pregnancy have driven me slightly crazy? I went over a speedbump badly yesterday and part of the car started to rattle- I went into a total panic attack- very bad when driving! and could hardly breathe. Turned out it was some kind of splash pad thing that had fallen off, not terribly serious- but my reaction to it was a bit of a wake up call.

Hmmm, sorry to burble on, just wondering if I am the only one making drastic decisions, having giant overreactions etc. Am I thinking straight or am I thinking through a hormonal mist???

Wook I am sure how you're feeling is totally normal. Were you able to 'officially' start your mat leave from 1 Sep so you were paid over the summer holidays? Otherwise seems a shame to let the bully do you out of money. However, definitely better that you are not subjected to him on a daily basis throughout the autumn. Glad colleague made you feel better. I am definitely reacting in a lot more of an emotional way than I usually would. I can burst into tears at the best of things, and am unduly sensitive, that's for sure. Also definitely feeling far too stressed by things like house mess which would normally not bother me as much as it is doing. Right now, for example, I cannot concentrate because I know there is clutter in the hallway!

I have to go and rescue DH from a work fancy dress party. He was really not up for it so he told people me and him were going out for an anniversary meal (is not our anniversary!) so he could only go for an hour. Now he feels bad about lying, so has told me to meet him and he will take me out for a meal and we have to think of an anniversary it could be Not that I'm complaining! Think we are going for Dim Sum.

How's everyone? Sorry to hear of all these aches and pains I can't really complain as just have back ache in top left bit of back, when I am in certain positions and esp in the evening. I had heard it was meant to be lower back pain that was the problem but mine is definitely upper back...

BTW on a ridiculously trivial note.... Ordered a breadmaker!

Anyone considering hypnobirthing? Hippy-bollocks waste of money or fear and panic free labour?
Dp has got to the point where he just says yes to everything to keep me happy so don't know if I'm being silly and over the top on the whole labour thing or if it might just work. Any thoughts/experiences?

Thanks for the tips re cramp - will try eating more banas (already have at least one a day but I love 'em!) as tonic without the gin would be too hard to bear. It is quinine that's in there scarlotti

I had a lovely appointment with a special midwife today which totally made me feel better about the Monday one. She had a good old bitch to me about London and the NHS being rubbish and said I was right to phone because there is so much bureaucracy messing everything up and delaying messages. I phoned about the renal dilatation picked up on my 20(!) week scan that I still hadn't had any follow consultation about... Turns out I will have another scan 34 weeks to check and little one will probably be on antibiotics for first 3 months and scanned regularly to check the problem goes away

Not too serious and very common (about 1-2:200) but still bit annoyed it took so long to get any info AND would not have had new scan booked if I hadn't chased them up. A lesson learned for me I think, because I always think 'oh I don't want to bother them, I'm sure it's in hand and they're on top of it...' Well...seems often, they're NOT!

wook I have definitely been having major overreactions and feeling teary for no apparent reason a lot lately, so please don't feel alone Think the whole trying to do too many life-altering events in one go (moving, leaving school I love, having baby...) is getting to me!

Ooh, ninjacat, my friend did hypno-birthing and totally recommends it. She said she was guiding out DS's head and saying 'COme on little one, out you some...'

but sounds good to me!

sorry, come

Evening all, sorry to hear of those having emotional upset as well as the hormonal ones. Hope thing sort themselves out.

Spent the morning at hospital having GTT, that stuff is not plesent, but all in all not too bad. Get results back tomorrow (tho not holding my breath - I can't believe the NHS will be that quick!)

On apositive nte, managed to speak with a senior registrar who agreed that I shouldn't be under a consultant for Strep B in previous pregnancy, she said not to have a further test this time as had already had one -ve and that i shouldn't have antibiotics - i nearly kissed her!!! Also she wrote on my notes that if my GTT results come back clear then I should go back under midwife care - yippee!!

19 working days left -leaving at 37wkk - quite late (lot later than other 2) but am only working 3 6hr days a week so hardly straining! Also DD starts back at preschool next week and is there on a ri (one of my days off) so just having DS is a breeze.

Trying hard to make a decision over a new bouncy chair (the other's been a bit over used), thing about the Jane Fold Rocker - looks nice as it has different positions, but now I can't decide on colour!!

Raggie - have heard about tonic water for cramp, but had forgotten about it, will give it a go.

There's nothing wrong with a bit of hippy bollocks that's what I think! my mum is a hypno-therapist and although you're not supposed to hypnotise family she hypnotised me before I had DS1 and I swear it really helped me cope with just gas and air. It really worked. I can't say I guided him out going 'come on, my little sweet' or anything like that. It was more like 'this f*ing hurts, get it out!' but still... She says she'll give me a session again before this one is due.

I had my 28-week check today at home and my MW is nice but very stressed. She said she worked 8am-10pm yesterday and was running late when she came to me. I now have my MATB1 and can claim maternity allowance finally and the HIP thingy she'll drop off as she forgot to bring it. She told me all about classes on breast feeding, yoga, etc which is good.

Apparently the baby is 'traverse' or something - kind of sideways. Apparently this is normal! And phew I'm not as large as I thought I was - normal for 29 weeks. The DSs sat and watched Henry's Cat very happily while she was here - little angels they are!

I agree - def nothing wrong with hippy bollocks if it helps you through!!! I listened to a hypnobirthing cd, didn't help in getting into 'trance' or anything, but helped mein feeling positive towards the birth - i'd give anything a go!

Thank you ladies. I have to say I've had hypnotherapy before with really positive results but dp is usually so sceptical about these things I at least have to put up a reasoned argument to get my own way which means working out if it is one of whims or not, but with him just agreeing from the off I feel all at sea. If it wasn't for the cost I'd be straight in there (I definitely sway towards the hippy side of life left to my own devices - only I'm a neurotic hippy and that can prove expensive).

Raggie my ds had renal dilation picked up in his scan. He has ABs for 6mnths, a scan of his kidneys when he was a week old and a couple of scans where they put dye into him when he was a little older. Basically they were checking for renal reflux and just needed to make sure urine wasn't going back up to the kidneys. He's fine. It was never a problem but do wish he hadn't had to have the ABs for so long when he should have been building his immune system. Fingers crossed all is well at your next scan. I hear it's quite normal for the kidneys to go back down again. This baby's were a bit dilated at the start of the scan but went below alarm levels by the end of the scan.

Hope everyone is well and getting a bit more support. Dp is working away (suprise suprise) but ds washed the dishes and dried up and put them away all in exchange for an hour on the Wii. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it only took the twelve years to glimps it