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jellybrain · 17/05/2005 11:05

Thought I'd start a new thread as No 3 is pretty long now! If anyone knows how to link between the 2 threads can you put one in - I'm not called Jellybrain by accident you know .

Had a job interview yesterday but, haven't heard anything back yet . I don't think my preparation was all that good and was pretty busy over the weekend with birthday party preparations and was consequently shattered.

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Rochwen · 14/06/2005 15:37

KMS, thanks for the useful advice !

I'm so freaked out about the spd thingy, I used to think that only women carrying twins or more would get it or women who already had a few children. I had no idea it would ever affect me.

I've go three really burning questions KMS (or anybody else who has experience with SPD, firstly will it get worse. I'm 32 weeks now and the pain started about 4 weeks ago and has been getting slightly worse. Does that mean it will get really bad the bigger the baby and I get?

Secondly, I've read somewhere that there is a chance the pubic bone can separate if I slip or the pressure gets too much (or if they stick me into stirrups during delivery). That totally freaks me out, the whole pelvis would have no support if it were to separate, would it not? How would they fix it if it broke, more importantly can they fix it or will I be stuck in a wheelchair for life?

Finally, will it really go back to normal after delivery? I'm leading a very active and athletic life and if I still had a niggling pain left and the fear of the pelvis being instable then I'm not sure I could get back to competitive sports. I just can imagine a life without sports and the thought really really really scares me.

I've made an appointment with my normal GP to discuss these things as my m/w just keeps saying that these things just happen when you are pregnant but I will not accept a lifetime of disability because of a pregnancy complaint.

Can you tell that I'm a tad irrational and freaked out about that? Bloody hormones !

Rochwen · 14/06/2005 15:40

'can't accept a life without sports' I meant not can. Gee I should read my messages before I post.

Also, just thought of another question, is there anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse?

KMS · 14/06/2005 23:26

Rochwen- have you been intouch with the pelvic partnership?
They have loads of tips on the website. I think it may be worth talking to someone there about your concerns. They are great for support as they are all people who have suffered, not just profecianals reading text books!

With my last pg the pain started at 33 wks was diagnosed (by me!!) at 35wks (GP said "never mind only 5 wks to go" I told m/w and she said tell him as only 5 wks need emerg physio then!) was on cruthches from 38wks and DD was 10days late 8lb 14oz. Was walking normally from 3 days after birth and was 100% sitting cross leged etc by 3 mths. I started martial arts classes when DD was nearly a year without having to think about SPD at all. Only started to think about it when got pg again.
Yes the pubic bone can separate in extream, very rare cases. this happened to a friend of mine and wasnt spotted until baby was 6mths as she wasn't responding to the physio. She then had a plate surgically fitted to fuse the pelivs again. I have to add that this is extreamly rare and was 5 yrs ago when the condition wasn't as recognised as it is now.

stick to the tips on the SPD website as they do help to stop it getting worse. You can feel a bit of a prat walking like a gaisher(sp?) girl but it is worth it to stop the pain getting worse! Stop anything that makes it hurt. even if that is walking (like me!) If I had carried on I would be in hospital by now. It can be hard getting others, like partners or parents and even M/ws and GPs, to take it seriously. It is worth doing the things now to stop it getting worse than to wait until it is really bad.

Hope this makes sense!

Azure · 15/06/2005 08:43

Hello everyone. We haven't discussed names properly yet - every now and then I say "we'll have to think of a name soon", but that's about as far as it gets. Having said that, we'll probably have Thomas as a middle name. We took DS to a fair on Saturday and spent an absolute fortune - those £1 and £1.50 rides really do add up. I rather foolishly went on the Waltzer with DS, thinking it was a sit-down ride and not realising the seats would spin round so fast. I was concerned afterwards that it wasn't good for the baby, but he's been doing gymnastics in my tummy for the last few days, so everything seems fine. 30 week GP appointment on Friday. I'm starting to feel very tired - not helped by DS deciding his wake-up time is around 5.30am (and yes, we have black-out blinds in his room). Work has been exhausting, which doesn't help - I envy those of you who have given up already. Once I finish work DS will be on his school holiday, so I'm unlikely to get much rest then. I've been looking into him doing a week-long Stagecoach workshop (mornings only) in August, so at least I have a couple of hours off. Still, should't complain - my sympathies to the many of you with SPD.

Rochwen · 15/06/2005 09:16

KMS, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel so much better after reading your post. You've really reassured me. It's also good to know that when they worst comes to the worst there is something they can do.

Big 'thank you' hugs.

'Was walking normally from 3 days after birth and was 100% sitting cross leged etc by 3 mths. I started martial arts classes when DD was nearly a year without having to think about SPD at all.'

I love this !!!

beachyhead · 15/06/2005 09:44

Morning morning ladies - having merry hell with dd and ds at the moment - seemed to have really picked their week to go bonkers at home. I had both of them up until 9pm last night dd(8) picking a constant fight, tears and tantrums Elton John would be hard pushed to copy and ds(4) in a 'I just want to be with you, mummy!' mood and wouldn't be left alone. I think the combo of their long term nanny leaving in a couple of weeks and the baby coming is just upsetting the apple cart at the moment and I am too tired to deal with it........
Remember those days when ladies went into confinement for about the last two months - well, bring it on back, frankly!!!!!
Anybody else having 'other children' issues at the moment or am I the only house with hormone overload at present?
Still, reflexology tonight and then supper with girl friends - if I didn't think I'd fall asleep in my soup, I'd be looking forward to it.....
Only two more weeks at work - yippee!!!!!

fatbirdtoo · 15/06/2005 14:14

Hi all, thanks Kate for bag website, its really started me off on a fresh search! love the cord one you've chosen.
Hormones are racing in our household at present! My DS {just turned 13}has evolved from a delightful son to a Kevin overnight! I love him to bits but he has developed such a rude attitude to me {no-one else!)I've tried talking to him about it, the baby/ moving house(only moving a few streets away)but says its me- but won't say what i'm doin. I'm finding it so difficult as we've always been so close and now i'm feeling an inconvenience! Am hoping things will settle soon as feel am treading on egg shells trying to keep a nice atmosphere. Sorry to go on but u touched a raw nerve Beachyhead! Have been worrying about him for weeks. Hope yours have settled down a bit, I'm dreading the summer hols!

Eulalia · 15/06/2005 18:00

Miaou - good news on the scan

beachyhead - yes on the 'other children' issue. Mind you I always have it has ds and dd don't play well together. However ds is getting better and considering he has special needs he's doing well. I was trying to rest (ha ha) on the bed with him yesterday evening and have a cuddle and dd comes up and then they proceed to have a fight over me on the bed with bump in the middle protesting. Sometimes I get so cross and tired and shout at them then feel guilty because I am having another baby for them to get jealous over. Does that make sense?

Anyway had a nice day today as dh took the day off work and we had lunch together - alone! That will be the last time before baby comes and probably for a long time after.

Names.... hardly started talking about it and time is getting on - eek!

MINNIE1 · 16/06/2005 14:00

Twiga,

thank you for your message,
I am 12 wks and over the moon we have made it this far...
doctor said all is well and i dont have to go back till aug but have to see my own GP. Blood level is good and bubs is doing fine.
I am starting to injoy it now..

How are you keeping??

Twiga · 16/06/2005 18:10

Hey Minnie, was just so chuffed to read about your scan and am so glad things are going well. Things here are great - am on Mat leave - hurray !!! Busy with lots of decorating but the lounge is now very nearly done dh just has to assemble my cabinet for me tonight - then it's onto our bedroom and then the nursery. Can't believe I've only got 11 weeks to go, time has really flown paticularly over the last ten weeks or so. Having prob with mild spd, so have a very attractive tubi-grip thing to wear that practicaly goes up to my armpits - nice - but other than that no complaints and as long as I take it easy it's not too bad. Off to Belfast to visit Dh's family at the weekend, will be my last flight before the wee one arrrives and probably the last time we're visit as just a couple. Saw my family last week so that's everyone visited - their turn to come up here next!

MINNIE1 · 17/06/2005 08:57

Twiga,
Its all moving so fast, i feel like i am sitting and watching the world go by.. Hope you have a lovely time in belfast it will be your last, next time you will have to book tickets for 2 and an infant..
Take is easy doing the deco, i have to wait for a while as we have a family wedding coming up b4 we can start plans on the nusery (i cant wait)Might even start getting a few ideas.
Will be keeping an eye on you so take it easy,
Talk to you soon xxx
Minnie1

blossom2 · 17/06/2005 18:43

Hi everyone ... apologies that i haven't posted for a while but have been reading.

Can you believe we've only got a few more weeks to do?!?! in my case, 6 weeks to be precise! just starting to pack my hospital bag and everyone is geared up for an early baby (DD1 was 2.5 wks early) so fingers crossed littelin will be early too.

Is the heat getting to anyone else?? I'm really hating it and not coping well at all. Swollen legs, ankles & feet and generally more grumpy because of the heat.

Is anyone else also gettign Brackson Hicks (i think thats how its spelt)??? i've had 2 in the past week and it feels very strange (didn't get them with DD1) - kinda like a very mild contraction and bump was very hard.

I'm also huge - doctor said i was gain far too much weight (about 10kgs so far) so i'm just going to lie at the next appt (bloody french doctors). And after each visit, i get another prescription for vitamins and drugs - why/why/why?!?!?! i haven't been taking them (didn't with DD1) so don't see the point.

Oh the other news is that we're probably coming back to the UK in October (hoorary)!!!

Stay well everyone and chat soon.
xxx

colinsmommy · 17/06/2005 18:55

Hey all. DH's computer went down, so he unhooked both of ours from the internet for some reason, so haven't been around. Hope you all are doing well. Just getting ready go take Colin and go up north to visit friends and DH's mom for a few days.

Blossom2-I get Braxton-Hicks all the time, and have had them for several weeks. Got them all the time with Colin, and dr. said they are stronger the 2nd time around. They really annoy me, because they make me have to go to the bathroom all the time.

Thinking of all of you with SPD. Hope you feel as good as possible
Oh, and good news. No pregnancy diabetes!!!!!!!!

kate100 · 18/06/2005 09:43

I'm kind of used to the heat Blossom2, I had DS in the middle of the heatwave of 2003. On the bright side all my maternity clothes from then were for boiling weather, so I'm keeping a bit cool. I'm not nearly as swollen as last time, by this time with DS I could only get flip flops on and I'd had to take my rings and watch off, but this hasn't happened this time.

I've been having braxton hicks since about 20 weeks!! Sometimes they're quite strong and I nearly always get one when I stand up. I've also got a baby's bottom stuck in my ribs and a head stuck on one hip, both of which are quite painful, but with the SPD, I think that's better than the baby's head being engaged and getting off my ribs and hip.

Colinsmommy, that's great news about the diabetes. I bet you're relieved.

I'm off to make DH a chocolate cake for father's day, which he is going to have to share with me, yummy!!!!

KMS · 18/06/2005 10:16

Kate I had DD in that July heat wave of 2003 as well. hope this year isn't the same. Had to take my rings off a while ago though and the flip flops are getting lots of use!

Have also had loads of BH since about 20 wks. Had so many yesterday I was begining to get worried. I ended up in hospital with DS2 at 34wks as BH were regular 5 mins apart for 24hrs. they stopped then and he ended up being 3 days late!

this baby head gets so low down into my pelvis by the end of the day. But by morning it is back up again. I am sure it is because the SPD just allows it's head to spring in and out with little resistence!

Sending everyone "cool" thoughts to help us all cope with this hot weather.

nic2004dave · 18/06/2005 12:17

hi all sorry i havent been on to chat to the spd suffers i have been suffering from severe spd and i cant walk very well not on crutches yet but ive just been in hospital for acoupleof days because they wantmeto havecomplete bed rest it can get very painful but as soon as the baby comes it will only take about month to heal up i have to use a belt andthey dontwantmeto use crutches they rather i just stayed imobilemyhusband who works away has had tocomehometolook after me because i cant get around very well i went to my scan this week i am 32 weeks but the baby measures to be 5 1/2 pounds already i have another scan next week and they are looking at inducung me or c section due to myspdand the size of her she is definetly a girl shes called niamh trinity i have everything ready although i havent packed my case yet im happy but very bored you can only watch sopmuch trica im sick of reading baby books and i have urges to clean but im not allowed to put any strain on myself very frustarting . i do admit i cry alot and my husband and i have been going through a bad patch due to my hormones i dont feel like anyone lovesme anymoreor howanybody cani aminconstant pain i dont sleep because if i turn over in bed my pelvis cracks and feels like im very bruised but like i said i am happy and excited about the baby coming im not scared of labour and i know my pelvic bone willheal after the babies bornand all the hell is worth it i wouldnt swop it for the world i love my husband and are new baby when she comes even though sometimes i get fed up of waiting it cant be helped it all normal
there are women in africa who have their babies standing up in the fields and go back to work straight after
and other ppl who have prem abaies or poorly babies so if having a healthy little girl means i have to be in some pain then im qutie happy cos i cant wait to meet my baby !

kate100 · 18/06/2005 17:13

I know how you feel nic2004dave, some days I feel like a very bad wife and worse a rubbish mum as I can't care for DS in the way that I used to, but as you say it's worth it for the baby at the end and the pain won't last forever.

Anyone had any carvings, I had to fight the urge to drink kitchen cleaner today and the smell of petrol sends me runnig for the biscuit cupboard!!! Last time it was shower gel that set me off. Weirdo alert!!!!

Eulalia · 18/06/2005 19:18

blossom - are you coming back to stay permanently? 6 weeks to go here too but I am not organised! Not even started on the bag - just remembered the other day I should get maternity towels, disposible pants etc - I'd forgottten all about that. We've not decided on names either.... was late previous 2 pregs but even so I should get my act together.

Not exactly a heat wave here as its never all that hot but actually very nice although I did feel a bit sticky today. I never get swollen ankles or anything so am lucky there.

However.... I should have kept my big mouth shut - was going on about how I'd no backache and felt great and then last night I pulled something so was half crippled today. Managed to take the kids out this afternoon but had to use a walking stick.

HOpe everyone else feels better soon and we aren't all cripped by 40 weeks!

Miaou · 18/06/2005 23:05

Hello everyone. I'm feeling disgustingly healthy atm. In fact dh and I were remarking today how little this pregnancy is affecting me physically. I still don't need to get up in the night to wee, I have bags of energy (particularly in the morning), virtually no heartburn, no backache ... in fact if it wasn't for my huge tum and a bit of fluid retention (can't wear my rings atm ) I would wonder if I was making it up!!

However I am in the enviable position of having two much older dds (6 and 8) who are at school most of the day, and when at home they help out a lot with household chores, plus a dh who does all the cooking, plus a very stress-free lifestyle and a job that I could do when I wished... OK I'll shut up now before I get thumped

Hope you are all feeling ok and not suffering too much from the heat - up here (and by the coast) it is nice and cool, although the midges are truly biting!!!

Rochwen · 19/06/2005 13:10

Miaow you're not getting thumped, you give us all hope ! It' s good to know that not everybody is having an awful time.

Nic, I felt soooo sad reading your post . I too suffer from pubic pain but not to the same degree. I know how much it gets me down, worrying about it getting worse and fearing that I'll be disabled forever, and I'm not even a tenth as bad as you are. I can still walk and when I'm in the bath I don't feel my pain. So you, and everybody else with this type of pain, has my full sympathy.

It's quite interesting how so many of us in this thread are suffering from SPD/pubic pain. I wonder why? My midwife told my that it's quite rare actually and that I'm very very unlucky to have gotten it (this being a first pregnancy and I'm only carrying one baby), and my mum, who lives in Germany, asked her Gynaecologist and she said that in her over 20 years of practicse she has never had a single case of SPD (although she knows about the condition). None of my friends who have had it have suffered from it either.

I had an appointment with my GP on Thursday about it and she also said it was rare and that there's not much she can do but she thinks I need to see a specialist, but on the NHS I can't get an appointment for 8 to 12 months up here (by then I hope the problem will be solved) but she promised me to get a specialist to phone me at home and answer any questions I might have. Now, the interesting thing she has told me is that there is apparently a huge difference between simple pubic ligament pain (which I think I have) and SPD. The former tends to qo quite quickly after delivery if you don't breastfeed but SPD is a very serious condition and the acid test to find out which one you've got is whether you can walk up stairs, which luckily I still can. If you got SPD you can't get you legs high enough to climb up a stair. I thought that was very interesting. Also, it calmed me down a little bit even though my GP said that the pain itself will get worse the bigger the baby gets. I don't care as long as I'm back to normal after delivery.

Anyway, enough of that. It's actually quite warm in Scotland today and I feel wonderful not being cold for a change. Also, I'm feeling a lot more relaxed about the baby preparation as hubby and I went to a big shop yesterday and bought all the essentials, so even if my pain gets worse I will at least stop fretting about getting ready.

We sort of have a wee list of possible names but hubby just doesn't want to make a commitment until he has seen his little girl (she'd better be a girl as we have no boy names at all) but I'm calling her Solly (short for Solveig my choice of name for her).

All in all I'm really looking forward to her arrival (only 6 or 8 more weeks, yay) not just because I can't wait to meet her but also because I really don't like being pregnant. I'm not sure I ever want to do that again, too much pain, hassle, worry and things I had to give up.

I've only got two more weeks of work before the school term ends. I can't wait !

I really think we need get our 'Due Date List' ready for the August thread ! I volunteer to do it once I stop work if noone else wants to do it. It would just be lovely to know when everyone is due, when they have actually delivered and whether they had a girl or boy etc.

...and this has turned into yet another novel. Maybe I should post more often with smaller updates.

Azure · 20/06/2005 10:09

Hello all. Sorry to hear you're feeling down Nic2004Dave. Not long to go before you can meet little Niamh.

What a horrible night's (lack of) sleep last night - despite the windows being open, the fan working and dabbing with a cold flannel, it took hours to get off. Then, of course, DS woke up and it took ages to settle him and me again (we both ended up in the spare room). Journey into work was awful - as usual nobody gave me a seat on the crowded bus and tube. Still, it's air-conditioned in the office.

I had my 30 week check-up with my GP on Friday - blood pressure up a bit and a trace of protein in the urine, but not enough to worry about luckily. Colinsmommy, glad to hear you're all-clear on the diabetes front. I've decided that DH and I need to take a day off work to get things done for the baby because we just don't have the opportunity at the weekend - either DH or I have worked at least one day of the weekend for almost 2 months.

beachyhead · 20/06/2005 10:15

Morning everyone - had a lovely hot weekend, spent at the local Lido ( outdoor swimming pool). Dh was a bit snotty about going, but when he got there he realised it was all right - must admit some of the women there were so huge, made me feel positively skinny even with my big belly!!!!

Feeling OK, the other children are getting on better with each other and I have two weeks to go at work......

All sorted at home now - not quite at the maternity paper knickers and towels stage yet, but the baby stuff is all OK.

Names not yet decided - will we ever get there?????

suzi2 · 20/06/2005 10:49

Hi All - Miaou pointed me in this direction (thanks) as I'm due 6th August with my first - a boy.

My pregnancy has been interesting so far... Not much sickness to start but then my second trimester I was housebound with a very unusual reaction to pregnancy... I had lumps come up all over my legs and severe joint imflammaion & pain. But that's passsed now (yey!) and other than back pain, severe heartburn, elephant ankles and horrible stretchmarks I feel great!

Feeling grumpy today though as had about 2 hours sleep - I have a very annoying cat who wakes me several times a night. He probably thinks he's doing me a favour preparing me for babys arrival!

Hope you are all farily well and look forward 'meeting' you all.

Miaou · 20/06/2005 13:37

Hiya suzi2, glad you could join us.... Cats aren't daft - I bet yours knows he's about to get usurped

Well, I have truly got my comeuppance for being so smug about feeling so well! I felt lousy yesterday, and I swear this baby has put on a pound in weight overnight - all of a sudden my back is starting to complain!!

Ah well, just six weeks to go now! Still no BH - don't think I had them previously though.

That's such a relief about the diabetes thing colinsmommy - fab news.

All the best to all those who are still working - not long now!

wilbur · 20/06/2005 13:50

God, I'm hot.

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