Due November 2009 - second trimester thread part 2

[skorpion]

Hope this works

Sleepless The swinging cot sounds cool! I suppose if it's metal it might cost an arm and a leg to get shipped over as well... I'm hoping the Amby lives up to its hype. If it doesn't (or once we're done with it) the re-sale value seems to be really good. I know I'm just trying to justify the purchase really.

Erika I posted about my bilingualism dilemma on an expat website as well (although I left out the personal stuff, don't know what it is about you guys that made me disclose that...) and someone replied that I was making way too big a deal of it as I'll realize one day that it really only matters to me, the child won't really give a monkey's either way and I might as well not even bother trying as I'll fail. Whatever.

Eeyore It really is the little things in life that make it worth living. It's good to take time to appreciate the small stuff. I'm all for being cozy too. I've got a pair of maternity trousers from M&S that looked quite dressy in the picture (the model wore them with ballet shoes) but when they arrived I realized that they were more for lounging around the house, really thin, soft jersey. I was secretly pleased, because they're SOOO comfy, but also at a glance look like I'm wearing real clothes. Working from home I find myself pottering around in my PJs all too often and then getting really embarrassed when there's a knock on the door...

Broodzilla - Well isn't that the most helpful comment EVER? Some people... I think I'm not so upset by what they said - though the bits about me being a child kinda pissed me right off - because I'm used to people reacting negatively to us. But I'm angry at how they've been to Jon. I mean he was in the wrong, and I'm still slightly irked that he logged on in the first place, but he apologised. He was really upset by the implication that he was preying / taking advantage of me. sighs Oh well. You win some, you loose some, right? Just VERY concerned about him now. This isn't like him.

Eeyore - Forgot to mention - my little passion is socks I love Primark for them because they have so many random patterns. Stripes, spots, stars... Its like sock heaven!

Misssese - Forgot to say, welcome x

erika - I had a look at the thread (just too nosy, I'm afraid) and I can fully understand why you feel upset. People will comment on the information provided and it can soon escalate beyond the original poster's intention. I often wondered about this myself: tinternet is such a wonderful thing for so many reasons, but because you are just facing the computer screen you are deprived of such an important part of any human interaction - body language, facial expression etc. It is so hard to take back the things that glare at us from the computer screen.
Please don't let this episode put you off MN. It is such a valuable source, more so, because you can share your experiences, too.
I hope you're starting to feel better. Take care.

Lemontop I live on the border of Cystal Palace and Penge. I'm a member of the Beckenham & Borders NCT - would that be any nearer to you? Hope you have a lovely few days with your family.

Hello everyone,

It's been a while since I posted. Since finding out I'm pregant I've turned into a worrier (strange because before I was soooo chilled), anyway, until I have my abnomaly scan I just felt like I didn't want to say too much about the baby. Does anyone know what I mean or am I just wierd?

So had the scan today and all seems well! But 3 points to note: 1) Head is on lower side of scale but according to midwife nothing to worry about - infact she said I should be happy as it'll be easier to deliver. 2) I'm still a bit hazy about this next point. The scanographer (have I spelt that right?) was looking as to whether I have a 3 vessel umbilical cord (I think) and she said that either I have a 2 vessel cord or one of the cords is very small. Now I have no idea what that means and she repeated a squillion times that I have nothing to worry about and it isn't a problem at all but in my new worried state it's slightly playing on my mind - but not too much. 3) Oh yes, lastly, the placenta is low at the moment - need to have an extra scan to see if it moves out of the way so that I can deliver the baby normally. Apparently at this stage (I'm 23 weeks) 10% of placenta's are low, and by the time the woman is 40 weeks 90% of those have moved into the right position. So once again this point doesn't really bother me, also the placenta position doesn't actually harm the baby so I'm not going to dwell on that.

And lastly - it's a GIRL!

Thanks for listening everyone. Will be joining the thread with avengeance once again

Mumsie - congrats on your girl!! I had a low placenta in my last pregnancy but had to have scan 3 weeks later (for something else) and it had already moved sufficiently not to be a concern by then. The same baby also had a head on the smaller size, I think so long as it isn't REALLY small then there isn't anything to worry about - be a bit boring if we were all the same!! Not sure about the umbilical cord thing -I'd check any concerns you have with your midwife.

I know what you mean about the worrying, I was just like that first time round, then with subsequent pregnacies you're so busy running round after the first it just doesn't get as much thought. Take care x

mumsie - Welcome to the Girl club! Congratulations, glad to hear everything is fine. I'm afraid I have no idea what the cord vessel stuff means, but if they say it's nothing to worry about - don't worry.

I've started reading Ina May's Childbirth book. Have to say that it's spot on my own feelings about the birth. I don't want it treated as a medical problem, it is the most natural thing. I am feeling really positive about what is to come - the book is a great tool to empower women and make them believe in the strength and primitive knowledge of their own bodies. Far out, man!

Yes, you guessed it, it is a bit on the hippie side.

Somebody ask my opinion again in four months time, would you?

I am so tired. Somebody just shoot me! PC makes me so tired. I have been so busy at work that I went to back with ds last night! Was told today I have to stay late. I want to cry. I want sleep.

Do we have a lawyer here? I am reading up online on making a claim against our ex landlord as he still hasn?t refunded our deposit! It?s the last thing I need but I can?t see us getting the money any other way.

I meant i went to bed at the same time as ds last night. I cant think straight.

sleepless I bought my amby from eBay and managed to get it for half the RRP (sorry *Broodzilla ) so they do hold their value well. If you wanted new, and bought from kiddicare, then it would only end up costing you about £60-70 after selling it on.
When I costed up a moses basket and stand, that came to £50 for the cheapest basket - the stands are £20! Other baskets were up to £60

mumsie congrats on the pink! If you're worried about the cord comments then do speak to your mw - my sonographer didn't mention anything about the cord, I didn't realise they looked at it! I have 'FM seen' written on my notes and will be asking the mw what that means. Far too much jargon and not enough explanation for us mere mortals as far as I'm concerned with the NHS.

Thanks for the advice on the Amby folks...ebay here I come.. I still will have to pay customs tho...pain!

Am so tired all the time..all the time..

Thanks all for the well wishing. I should have asked for more details regarding the "cord" but there was just sooo much to take in, it was all a bit overwhelming. But will definitely ask about it next time.

beepbeep thanks for the comment about your placenta moving - didn't realise it could happen that fast! Hopefully that'll be the case for me.

So cool to re-join the thread again - like having a huge extended family!

scarlotti i think FM seen will mean 'foetal movements seen',

well done on the recent scans!

Scarlotti, isn't that 'foetal movement'? Like 'FH' is 'foetal heartbeat'?

Mumsiebumsie, two of the mothers in my toddler group (who are pregnant again, like me) had partial placenta praevia at the 20 week scan, and in both cases, it's moved north. Will keep fingers crossed that yours does too!

Skorpion, if you like Ina May, you might like this slideshow of a homebirth (no graphic pictures). Think it's the nicest birth story I've seen or read (and think I've got a bit of a crush on her bloke):

www.lifeinmotionphotography.com/slideshows/amerlyn/

I think I'm going to rewatch it next time I start getting anxious and frightened about DS's birth again.

Speaking of DS, he seems to be bouncing back - he's complaining bitterly at being under house arrest, and I don't really blame him! Am getting decidedly cabin-feverish, and I'm mugging poor DH at the door in the evenings because I'm so desperate for adult human interaction.

Oh my word just taken a look at www.lifeinmotionphotography.com/slideshows/amerlyn/.

I want that woman's life - her man's lovely.

So beautiful. Thanks for posting that Tamlin.

Hi all,

Congrats on the pink mumsiebumsie whenever I read your name I want to call you mumsiebunny for some reason! Anyway, welcome back into the fold

After reading what some of you posted about the Amby Hammock thingy I checked it out on Kiddicare. I must admit, it does look rather good, the thing is though I already have a moses basket that I used with ds. Do I go ahead and get one anyway? Am worried that it's just another gimmick and don't want to waste money if not necessary. Anyone know anybody that's used one?

koumak get yourself another early night if you can. Hope you feel better tomorrow, it's hard work this pregnancy lark!

Still not feeling 100%, got a headache and sore throat. Its been over a week since doctor diagnosed swine flu and can't believe I still feel rubbish. I think dh is getting fed up with my moaning about various things, yesterday It was sore throat and piles, today sore throat and headache blah blah blah! Think he is losing sympathy!

Actually just got a text from him, he is still at the office so won't be home until gone 9.30pm, might as well get an early night then (or just mumsnet all night!)

Erika I had a nosy at your thread too. Sorry you've been upset by some of the comments, I hope your dp does go for some help though, it can't do any harm and will mean less pressure on you. Please don't feel like you should leave mumsnet, you've done nothing wrong and even if you just stay with us at least you have a sounding board and we will always support you. Also, have you discussed with your mw about some ante natal groups yet? I think it would really help to speak to people your age going through the same experience. At least that way you can have something else to focus on when things get too much.

Lemontop, you will probably quite busy with your family for the next days, so I'm already wishing you all the best for your wedding day now! Just enjoy being with family and friends celebrating with you this important moment of your life! May it be a great start in a great life as a new family (soon getting bigger)!
skorpion, that book sounds interesting, will have a look at it. I really agree with you about birth being a natural thing rather than a medical one. (and I even agree on that "ask me in 4 months time ). I am feeling positive to, not yet scared but I guess that is something I will have to go through as well. Had already some moments when reading about giving birth.
Koumak, I hope you will get some quality sleep tonight. You really seem to need it.
scarlotti, I agree with you on that there seem to be nobody explaining things to us. I always have this feeling that I'm just having a check up with someone and when I'm back with the regular person "treating" me, I will get some explanations... but there is no such person. I was so nice to see my gynaecologist in Vienna. It is such a difference being with someone who knows you since years, she was really happy that I came to "visit" her, was very interested in my British notes, explained the scan results, did another scan and explained everything (and made nice comments about how smart and beautiful our child will be ) I don't want to complain about anybody who had been dealing with me, they were all nice, but I miss a certain consistency.
mumsiebumsie, I really think it doesn't matter where on the scale the different sizes are as long as nothing is really out of it. Some parts of my baby are on the lower side, some of the bigger one. The placenta moves in most cases, that's what I've read everywhere, and even if it doesn't, it would be a managable problem, as they can see it on the scan and in the "worst case", you just would need a caesarian. About the umbilical cord, I don't have any information that could help you but I guess, if they told you it would be nothing to worry about it's fine. I hope you can relax and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy with a little bit less worry.

helips, I really hope you will soon feel better! I guess, sleeping would be a good idea (at least, that's what my grandmother used to say)

Hmm, foetal movement would make sense for FM seen. Shame, there was me thinking it might be something exciting!
She told us it's a boy but to be honest, I couldn't see what she was looking at. She then moved in really quickly to checking the other bits. She did sound sure but I guess as I hadn't seen it I feel a little sceptical.
Control freak .... who me?? .... not at all

Scarlotti I am with you - gaviscon is my god at the moment.

Eeyore I love the jammmies

Am I dim but ... what is an amby? Do I need one? Do I wear it or is it a type of buggy?

DH has just had a new TV delivered - its big. We're watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer on it. It's like having Buffy and co right here in the room with us.

Helips - Thing is with ED's, therapy isn't always the best thing, because they're secretive conditions. I know it didn't help me. But he has agreed to consider support groups instead, so thats a good sign. I'm waiting for the infomation to come through about antenatal groups, though we are going to a one session thing as a couple next month - the ones I'll be going to are for under 19s, so I'm worried about him feeling out of place. I am looking forward to meeting some other young mums Feel better soon!!

Mumsie - Congrats on your girl

Koumack - With my ongoing palava with the photo company (Grrr!!!) I've found a website called askuklaw.co.uk really helpful. I think that's what its called. I'll double check and get back to you Hope things get sorted out soon. x

I went to my first aqua aerobics tonight! Am so TIRED - ME, pregnancy and water weight lifting...!!! But, I really enjoyed myself. I went with two of the girls from my old sixth form, and listened slightly jealously to their plans for September, but at the same time, stood there quite smugly while they cooed over my bump I have moments where I wish things had been different, but then I snap back, and remember that I have a handsome little man on the way. I wouldn't change things for the world.

Bryn (DP seems quite insistant we call him by name now!!!) hasn't been moving much tonight, feeling a bit concerned... So terrified of something going wrong. Am such a worrier..!!

Erika - don't worry about movement (unless it goes on for a few days), the babies are just like us and have days when they have loads of energy and other days when they are really sleepy ad you don't feel them much. I know it's easy to say not to worry, but don't!!

Lemontop - hope al goes well with your wedding and you have a great da.

tamlin - thanks, I'm sitting here in my office crying my eyes out. What a beautiful record. That's DH's tutorial sorted. Thank you again.

Is anyone else getting irritable or emotional at silly things? yesterday dh said he'd make lunch, which was nice of him cos usually he's working, although he suggested cheese on toast which i didnt really fancy but thought "ok since he's going to make it i'll go with what he wants." he always puts marmite underneath the cheese, and asked me if i wanted marmite, and i said "no, im not in the mood for marmite, but can I have ketchup in it please?" "yes" says he. fine, he makes it and we sit down to eat it, bite into it and its sodding marmite. I could have screamed and cried simultaneously. trivial but couldnt help it. i did eat most of it, but in a complete grump even tho i know i should have been greatful he made it.