Due December 09 - Fluttering Tums and Excited Mums...

[SarahL2]

New Thread before the old one fills up.

Oh its Baisey btw. I have my Harry Potter nick on, think m preferring it though!!

I bought a 6 pack in last weeks Tesco shop

You've got me fancying a HP nickname now...

Thanks Devongirl, I'm not feeling too bad, just very tired. I've resigned myself to the transfusion, but really don't want to go in on Friday as it's my birthday on Saturday and my last baby-free celebration. Apart from that anything that will make me feel more awake and less dizzy is only a good thing.

Vik - goodness you poor thing! Hope it does the trick for you

Sarah - you sound a bit sad and fed up, pregnancy is hard, i don't really know what to suggest for you, apart from try and rest whenever you can, and eat what makes you happy (crisps sound amazing!!)

Well i had my MW check today, all good, BP lower than booking in (thank god, it always plays up!) but they tested my downs sample for Hep C without being asked to, completely randomly, i should have been counselled for such a thing(was NEG but thats not the point)!! MW made huge fuss for me and i should expect a letter of apology soon! Heard heartbeat and tummy growing perfectly, which is good as you can hardly see a thing there despite being v nearly 17 weeks.

Just a thought - at 25 weeks you can apply for a Health In Pregnancy Grant (for everyone non income based - £190), and at 29 weeks a £500 Maternity Grant, income assessed. For first timers who are working, its probably best you apply in the 3 months after birth as you are more liable to get full amount iyswim, of the Mat Grant. My Mat Grant will be spent on a P&T; HIPG probably yoga classes and some hotmilk pj's

Had a not very pleaseant experience on a plane yesterday. I was sick all over the floor due an absence of sick bags & my trying to convince myself I wasn't going to be sick for too long. I've got a bit of a phobia about being sick so cried, shook & was generally a right state for a ridiculous amount of time. Flew home today clutching a sick bag but was ok luckily. Ok apart from wanting to cry & being a sweaty mess all through the flight as I was terrified of being sick that is.

20 week scan on Tues although we already know we're having a boy from a nuchal fold scan at 12 weeks. Taking ds with us so really looking forward to his face when he actually sees his baby brother.

Scorps thank you for mentioning about the grants
do you know if the maternity grant is based on the mum's income only, or is it joint income with husband if you are married?

Nickname - DCn, (DCs ages) - EDD, Postcode, 20Wk scan, Gender.
willfatandiknowit - DC1, EDD 25th Nov - 1st Dec,
Flumpity - DC2, (DD 22 mths) - EDD 27th Nov - 1st Dec,
raggie - DC1, EDD 28th Nov N4 but soon OX4!
Anniebigpants- DC2, EDD 1st Dec ,SR5
Charleymouse DC4, (DD 4; DST2 2; DST1 Angel) - EDD 2nd Dec, S6, 17th July, D/K.
Kingsroadie - DC1, EDD 2nd Dec, SW5
4thtimelucky - DC1, EDD 3rd Dec,
sickbubby (DD 3) - EDD 3rd Dec - 6th Dec,
Catz - DC2, (DD 20 mths) - EDD 4th Dec,
Pumpkin20 - DC2, EDD 4th Dec,
sparklycheerymummy - (DD 7) EDD 28th Nov - 5th Dec,
Moosy - DC3, (2 DDs, 3 1/2 and 2) - EDD 6th Dec,
Firawla - DC2, (DS 12 mths) - EDD 6th Dec,
Sleepychunky - DC2, (DS 22 mths) - EDD 7th Dec,
Claire236 - DC2, (DS 4) - EDD 7th Dec,
Boogeek - DC3, (2 DDs, 5 & 2 1/2) - EDD 7th Dec,
BubblesBump - DC1, EDD 8th Dec, W11
Legscrossed - DC1, EDD 9th Dec,
damnitdamnit - DC2, (DD 20 mths) - EDD 9th Dec,
HazeDB - DC1, EDD 9th Dec,
Beffnal - DC1, EDD 11th Dec,
JumpingJellyfish - DC3, (DS 4; DD 2) - EDD 11th Dec,
Fairywing - DC1, (mc Jan 08 )- EDD 11th Dec,
Baisey - DS is 2.5, EDD 11th Dec,
FlyingDuck - DC1, EDD 11th Dec,
Devongirl - DC2, (DS 2.5) - EDD 12th Dec,
Blackteaplease - DC1, EDD 13th Dec,
Whistlejacket DC3, (DS 9 mths; DS 3 years) - EDD 14th Dec,
Deanychip - DC?, EDD?
Tillyscoutsmum - DC2, (DD 23 mths; DSD 5) - EDD 15th Dec,
Ravgirl - DC1, EDD 16th Dec,
Stigaloid - DC2, (DS 22 mths) - EDD 17th Dec,
Cazzybabs - Dc4, (DD1 7; DD2 4; DD3 1) EDD 17th Dec, Cambridge
Viktoriamac - DC1, EDD 18th Dec,
Docket - DC3, EDD 20th Dec,
BexieID - DC2, (Tom 3) EDD 25th Dec,
PennyBenjamin - DC2, (DS 7 1/2 mths) - EDD 20th Dec,
Becksworth - DC1, EDD 21st Dec,
missDiddles - DC1, EDD 21st Dec,
Biscuitsmustbedunkedintea - DC2, (DD 3.2) - EDD 21st Dec,
Scorpio - DC4, EDD 25th Dec,
Lollie77 - DC2, (DC1- Angel baby) - EDD 22nd Dec,
Noodleboo - DC3, EDD 22nd Dec, RH19,
madmissy - DC3, EDD 23rd Dec,
cairnterrier - DC1, EDD 23rd Dec, NR4,
Harimad - DC2, (DS1 2.2) EDD 24-26th Dec, SE3,
JoseyM - DC1, EDD 25th Dec..eek!
Themachinist - DC2, (DS 2) - EDD 25th Dec,
MiapieMum - DC1, EDD 25th Dec,
Rookie81 - DC1, EDD 25th Dec,
Didov - DC3, (DS 3; DD 14 mths) EDD Dec 25th,
1petshortofazoo - DC2, (DS 3) EDD 26th Dec, DN15,
LaDiDaDi - DC2, EDD 26th Dec,
BlameitontheBogey - DC2, EDD 26th Dec,
Madremia09 - EDD 26th Dec,
Milliemuffin - DC2, (DS 22 mths) EDD 27th Dec,
SarahL2 - DC2, (DS 2.9) EDD 27th Dec,
Alexpolismum - DC3, [DS 2; DD 10 mths] EDD 28th Dec,
Lolianja - DC2, (DS1 2 mths) - EDD 29th Dec,
jumblies - DC2, EDD 27th Dec,
LittleMonkeysMummy - DC2, (DD 14 mths) EDD 30th Dec. AB21,
Pinkjenny - DC2, (DD 23 mths) EDD 31st Dec,
MarlaSinger - DC2, (DS 18 mths) EDD 31st Dec,

Morning ladies, hope you are all okay, no more sickness, low/high BP, swine flu coughs and colds, extreme tiredness etc. Remember CBeebies is our friend in time of need .

Bump huge is now kicking and can be felt externally. Gave DH a boot last night. Decides it would like to dance around just as I am dropping off to sleep.

DS has not had Mummy milk since Friday so boobs feeling a little tender this week. Thought it was time to stop although now feeling a little . Just feel bad as have got through the horrendous sickness and now feel mean.

Have edited the summary stats to make room for the extra info, thought we should be having 20 week scans soon and know some of you will be finding out genders so have added them to the table. (too much time on hands).

Toilet Paper Tuesday (TPT) was 10.5 sheets this week. Am still not back to pre-pregnancy weight due to sickness but am getting heavier and bump is deffo sticking out more.

Is anyone else planning a home birth this time round. DD was a home birth and DTs were an emergency section so a bit worried about the whole VBAC thing but would really like to have another homebirth it was brill. Soooo nice to get in my own bath and go to sleep in my own bed. Bliss.

Sorry for lack of response to individuals but hope everyone is okay and if not feels better soon. Take care.

Better update my details then...

Nickname - DCn, (DCs ages) - EDD, Postcode, 20Wk scan, Gender.
willfatandiknowit - DC1, EDD 25th Nov - 1st Dec,
Flumpity - DC2, (DD 22 mths) - EDD 27th Nov - 1st Dec,
raggie - DC1, EDD 28th Nov N4 but soon OX4!
Anniebigpants- DC2, EDD 1st Dec ,SR5
Charleymouse DC4, (DD 4; DST2 2; DST1 Angel) - EDD 2nd Dec, S6, 17th July, D/K.
Kingsroadie - DC1, EDD 2nd Dec, SW5
4thtimelucky - DC1, EDD 3rd Dec,
sickbubby (DD 3) - EDD 3rd Dec - 6th Dec,
Catz - DC2, (DD 20 mths) - EDD 4th Dec,
Pumpkin20 - DC2, EDD 4th Dec,
sparklycheerymummy - (DD 7) EDD 28th Nov - 5th Dec,
Moosy - DC3, (2 DDs, 3 1/2 and 2) - EDD 6th Dec,
Firawla - DC2, (DS 12 mths) - EDD 6th Dec,
Sleepychunky - DC2, (DS 22 mths) - EDD 7th Dec,
Claire236 - DC2, (DS 4) - EDD 7th Dec,
Boogeek - DC3, (2 DDs, 5 & 2 1/2) - EDD 7th Dec,
BubblesBump - DC1, EDD 8th Dec, W11
Legscrossed - DC1, EDD 9th Dec,
damnitdamnit - DC2, (DD 20 mths) - EDD 9th Dec,
HazeDB - DC1, EDD 9th Dec,
Beffnal - DC1, EDD 11th Dec,
JumpingJellyfish - DC3, (DS 4; DD 2) - EDD 11th Dec,
Fairywing - DC1, (mc Jan 08 )- EDD 11th Dec,
Baisey - DS is 2.5, EDD 11th Dec,
FlyingDuck - DC1, EDD 11th Dec,
Devongirl - DC2, (DS 2.5) - EDD 12th Dec,
Blackteaplease - DC1, EDD 13th Dec,
Whistlejacket DC3, (DS 9 mths; DS 3 years) - EDD 14th Dec,
Deanychip - DC?, EDD?
Tillyscoutsmum - DC2, (DD 23 mths; DSD 5) - EDD 15th Dec,
Ravgirl - DC1, EDD 16th Dec,
Stigaloid - DC2, (DS 22 mths) - EDD 17th Dec,
Cazzybabs - Dc4, (DD1 7; DD2 4; DD3 1) EDD 17th Dec, Cambridge
Viktoriamac - DC1, EDD 18th Dec,
Docket - DC3, EDD 20th Dec,
BexieID - DC2, (Tom 3) EDD 25th Dec,
PennyBenjamin - DC2, (DS 7 1/2 mths) - EDD 20th Dec,
Becksworth - DC1, EDD 21st Dec,
missDiddles - DC1, EDD 21st Dec,
Biscuitsmustbedunkedintea - DC2, (DD 3.2) - EDD 21st Dec,
Scorpio - DC4, EDD 25th Dec,
Lollie77 - DC2, (DC1- Angel baby) - EDD 22nd Dec,
Noodleboo - DC3, EDD 22nd Dec, RH19,
madmissy - DC3, EDD 23rd Dec,
cairnterrier - DC1, EDD 23rd Dec, NR4,
Harimad - DC2, (DS1 2.2) EDD 24-26th Dec, SE3,
JoseyM - DC1, EDD 25th Dec..eek!
Themachinist - DC2, (DS 2) - EDD 25th Dec,
MiapieMum - DC1, EDD 25th Dec,
Rookie81 - DC1, EDD 25th Dec,
Didov - DC3, (DS 3; DD 14 mths) EDD Dec 25th,
1petshortofazoo - DC2, (DS 3) EDD 26th Dec, DN15,
LaDiDaDi - DC2, EDD 26th Dec,
BlameitontheBogey - DC2, EDD 26th Dec,
Madremia09 - EDD 26th Dec,
Milliemuffin - DC2, (DS 22 mths) EDD 27th Dec,
SarahL2 - DC2, (DS 2.9) EDD 27th Dec, MK14, 20ws 11th August, Sex unknown for now
Alexpolismum - DC3, [DS 2; DD 10 mths] EDD 28th Dec,
Lolianja - DC2, (DS1 2 mths) - EDD 29th Dec,
jumblies - DC2, EDD 27th Dec,
LittleMonkeysMummy - DC2, (DD 14 mths) EDD 30th Dec. AB21,
Pinkjenny - DC2, (DD 23 mths) EDD 31st Dec,
MarlaSinger - DC2, (DS 18 mths) EDD 31st Dec,

Glad you got the VBAC book Sarah, hope you are feeling better.

Firawla - I have always been a SAHM and i have to put husband's earnings, i think its based on household income you see, which is why its best for working mums to apply after the birth (mat pay is less, tax credits etc).

Yes i'm having a HB, had one for dc3 and won't make hospital anyway (its 40 mins on a good day away). It's easier for me WRT other children, and they tuck you up in bed

I'm hoping for another HB too, DD2 was born on the living room floor and I was in my own bath then my own bed in under 2 hours

Maternity grant sounds rather nice, I'll have to look in to how much we'd get (I don't work)

Just got back from the hospital. They have decided they wont risk me having a localised anesthetic if they need to intervene so I would have to be put under general, which is a scary thought, but not as scary as risking paralysis, but I still dont know how to think about it, If anything does happen I want to be able to see the baby straight away but with general I wouldnt be able to
Bloody waiting room was boiling and everthing was running late as usual. So im now all hot, bothered and tetchy. Grrr.

HI guys I have been off air for ages trying to get some normality into life but am struggling...... still feel nauseous on and off and now have a bug..... am off work for last 2 days of school term. My dp is being a shit and acting like a spoilt child not getting enough attention...... really snapping at me because i have been so sick i cant face rampant sex. On a positive note baby is moving loads and sometimes i fill up with the emotions of it all. just feeling a bit alone so turning to the lovely ladies on here for some tlc.... i hope that ok xx

AB Ferret.... sorry havent seen all your posts. hope u r ok xx

Aw Ferret, sounds awful but the main thing is getting the baby out, and both of you being well afterwards, try not to worry too much x

Sparkly, sorry about your bug (had one last week and it's grimmmmmm), and at DP! What is it with some men who just can't handle a few days without sex? Especially when you're feeling that awful, surely that wouldn't be much fun for him anyway??? Men and women are VERY different aren't they. I really don't feel like it anyway and although all the books say it's fine when pregnant, I can't help myself believing that I shouldn't be doing it, it seems a bit rude to the baby! Anyone else feel like me or are you all at it like bunnies? Luckily I have a very supportive DH!

x

i feel like you Devongirl and the way dp is behaving would rather get the rabbit out!!?? So because he has been mean I have found myself bidding for baby stuff on ebay...... on his paypal account...... ha ha!!!

Good luck with the ebay stuff! x

Thanks, hopefully everything will be like last time and I wont need intervention, but as everyone says no two labours are the same!

I'm in the same boat - got to see the consultant at the 20 week scan next Friday but I'm pretty convinced I'll go for an ECS but try everything to get the little one to come from 38 weeks - but we'll see what he/she says next week and then make the decision. It all feels a long way off at the moment though.

Devon - why do you need an ECS? ( i have a brain like mush)

sparkly - in the early months, i don't want much sex either, which comes as a blow to DH, as we are normally quite active. He does get a bit cross, doesn't understand my need to sleep. This is our fourth baby so you think he would know by now, but no. I think they forget and don't realise that a pregnancy changes how we feel even daily, even if i explained he would back off for a day or two but then go on again. In the end i told him to imagine being so terrified of mc (i mc in feb) that everytime you go to the loo you cant look, you dont take tags off your mat clothes so you can sell them, you don't even think about a baby. Then imagine someone wanting sex with you, on top of that, sick, such tender breasts and looking after 3 small other people all day. He finally got the message. We are back to normal (ish) only now really, at 17 weeks. I still get tired easily. DH is fantastic at pregnancy from around now really; when it moves, bump is bigger....in the early weeks he is shite and has been a nightmare this time. It's ridiculous really, he is a grown man, but i know one day he will apologise, as he has before. We arent having anymore babies so it will never be an issue again. I hope you can get it through to your DH/P some how.

i dont really want to moan but things are actually really bad for me. i cried till 3ama nd all the time the baby was moving and kicking and i feel terrible..... he is now blaming me and my pregnancy for him starting smoking again....... thats up to him but he has been lying to me for weeks and sneaking about and i am so so so gutted. i hate lies and i find it hard to trust. he just told me i had neglected him in every way and i had to 'imagine how he felt when i said please dont i feel so sick' am mad and upset at the same time. have ended up off work for 2 days and if i am being honest its because i am just so upset. SORRY LADIES I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE HAVING REAL PROBLEMS ..... MAYBE HE WILL BE HAPPY AT OUR SCAN ON MONDAY!!!!! I WILL BE 21 WEEKS THEN!

Oy Sparkly, stop apologising - if you can't vent your anger on here where can you??? That's what we're here for. He is sounding really crap at the moment but... not wanting to justify it... a lot of men seem to have problems adjusting to the early days of pregnancy, as Scorps said.

I really hope he does get his arse into gear for you. If you don't mind me asking, was this a planned pregnancy? Was he 100% on board before you got pregnant? Sounds like he's using you as an excuse to start smoking again - at the worst possible time to start it. Another personal question but is DD his - was he around when you were pregnant before? If this is all new for him then I guess it does come as a bit of a shock to see how quickly a woman can change without looking THAT different. It's easier to sympathise with woman when she looks obviously pregnant, probably?

Anyway, don't feel you have to tell me/us the ins and outs of your relationship if you don't want to - I'm just a nosey cow!

Scorps, probably need an elective CS because DS's birth was such a 'mare (the only reason was that his head was at the wrong angle, so no pressure to come out, so got stuck at 4cm dilated for 24 hours, meuchonium (sp sorry) in the water, ambulanced to a big hospital, epidural, emergency CS...) so I really don't want to have to go through all of that again if I can avoid it - but on the other hand I haven't totally given up on the idea of VBAC so am torn.

Sparkly he is being very unreasonable; its up to him if he bloody well starts smoking, not your fault! Try not to get too upset crying at 3am is so sad . Was the pg a shock? I hope you get joy from your scan. You could talk to your mw if you're upset you know, they will help too. I too hate liars, DH & I have had our problems in our marriage too and i am learning to trust him again, but he is willing to help that, wheras yours just seems mean to me anyway. My DH has just given up smoking, as when we have the baby we often co-sleep because of the bf, and you shouldnt share a bed with your baby if you/partner smoke. Maybe tell that to your DH and that may help him stop again? Put some cucumber on your eyes and have a little rest x

Devon that sounds a rough birth though it sounds just for that baby iyswim, as his position was to blame? I have never had a CS and the thought terrifies me! I think in the end its what makes you happiest, but you do heal very quickly from VB and no two births are the same My 2nd came in less than 5 hours, i was pushing in the hospital lift and was in the delivery room for 14 minutes

i will def tell him that!!!! It wasnt a shock...... we fell pregnant within a month of trying abnd were lucky it was quite easy for us. he then said he would have liked to have waited 6 months. we have been together a while but only just moved in together but we werent using protection for months before just avoiding that few days mid month. He is acting like a spoilt child not getting what he wants but for those who have suffered sickness you will know how dibilitating it can be!!!! I suffered with horrendous pnd and psychosis with my daughter and getting down scares me. When i told him he was knocking me down and i was feeling low and i thought i needed to talk to the doctor before it gets worse he responded..... oh for gods sake stop being so dramatic. i was in a&e on a saturday night when my dd was 6 weeks old saying take my baby i just want to be pregnant again. its so important i stay on top of things this time.He is not my dds father by the way but is sadly displaying all the same selfish behaviour as my ex who also had 2 affairs while i was pregnant. golly i am moaning today but have noone to talk to as i dont want to admit how things are. i have to stop crying before i pick dd up from school cos i look like i have been beaten up at moment xx