Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

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New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

I'm too tired to type but lurking.

Getting in the Glsto spirit and sending Big Love to you all.

Had scan today, it went well. found out that we are having a girl!

Just caught up with the last day's activity! Sounds like a busy day - hope the scans and exams and HR meetings all went well.

ninjacat DH has been looking at the Glasto line-up tonight and deciding all the bands he wants to see. I'm getting so jealous! Will you be on your mum's stall? I'll have to get him to have a peak at you - I'm desperate to put a face to everyone's names.

Pretty much everyone asked us last time if it was planned or... (you know, how the words hang in the air). I didn't actually mind. It wasn't planned and most of our friends would probably have guessed that. Actually, my friend (who's also pg with no.2) and I were laughing yesterday that the first time round you can claim it all 'just happened' and you're not really a grown up, but by the time you get onto 2 that's a real statement. 'God, I'm definitely a real mum now' we were saying. Hmm remind me what I've been doing the past 2.5 years, before I became a real mum?

Sounds like everyone has nice father's day plans. We bought DH a book, but DD didn't seem to notice we were buying it (was too busy spinning the Mr Men carousel), then cried when she found out. She wanted to get him an apple

I hope you're all having lovely friday nights anyway. I've already forgotten who was having the curry, but it made me jealous. DH has gone out, DD in bed, and I am planning to snuggle up with my book (which I LOVE now, BBL) and eat some cheese and crackers and drink hot chocolate. Woo hoo. Despite it being friday night, I actually can't think of anything I'd rather do.

southernbelle sorry to hear about your loss of earnings. I am freelance and very short of work at the moment, so I know how it feels. I am reassured at least that babies cost very little, especially for the first year or so. By the way, if anyone else is on a budget, I was in TK Maxx today and they had some lovely baby stuff. There was a baba sling for £25, which I'd been looking at in John Lewis for £39. Also some really cute clothes. You do have to rummage through the crap though!

Sorry Trikken I crossed with you - glad it all went well and congrats on the baby daughter!!

Congrats trikken! Are you ready for the onslaught of pink??!

We think we finally sorted everything will-wise bar what we want done with our bodies. Odd that we've never considered it, and having discussed it a bit on the way home we really can't decide even where to be buried/interned, and whether that should be in the same place even if we die decades apart. There are so many scenarios to think about too, and decisions change accordingly. like what happens if one of us dies, both of us, both of us plus DC, etc. Apparently after the helicopter crash there was a rush on wills in Aberdeen. Just wish I had a crystal ball in a way.

Onto lighter topics - SLEEP! Maybe it's just my body finally turning a corner with this cold but I could NOT wake up this morning. DH left at 7:30 and DD had been up a while already. He'd given her milk but not breakfast (he seems to have an allergy to feeding the poor mite - she is hard work with food though). I was aware of noise and conversations, but could not for the life of me open my eyes... for another hour and a half . I just kept drifting into really real dreams. Poor DD just kept trying to engage me in conversation. So glad she hasn't got to the jumping on you stage yet Feeling a bit like a neglectful parent.

Don't know what I've eaten but I'm farting for Britain tonight , and so was DD. Can Philadelphia sandwiches do that to you?

Claire21 Despite being one of the first to be due on this thread I have not felt the slightest flutter... it must be due to the pizza padding insulation that surrounds my bub.

Southern Belle I do get the GP to check the HB each appointment and I find that reassuring and it always makes me .

to hear about your reduced income.

BBL I used to keep my dh waiting due to work ... I find it hard to keep balance and thinking back makes me shudder ...

In this climate of job insecurity I fear workaholic tendencies may increase, so tough. I really hope BBL that you can enjoy a peaceful weekend!

ErikaMaye here's wishing you assurance for your diagnosis and I hope you can get excellent care.

Sleepless when I think of Switzerland I think of fresh air, cheese and chocolate, what a fab combination!

Take care all, have a fab weekend I've got a night of tv and burping ahead. Hope all the scans go well as we are all inch closer to our d days.

Crossed with Trikken - PINK OUT, PINK OUT, PINK IT OUT!

Laugs BBC 3 do some good glastonbury coverage. I am going to stay at home and put on my wellies, find a sun dress that fits and dance around the living room.

Hobnob you keep farting and I'll keep burping.

I've probably crossed with others too. Anyway back to my exciting friday night.

Trikken Congrats - a girl

Laugs I will be working at the Thali Cafe (in the Galde I think?). Finish at 4pm so send him for lunch - password, Ninjacat.

Free veggie curry for a week then a scan on the Tuesday I get back. Sonographers going to love me.

This is an odd complaint but my right eye won't stop twitching. Pregnancy related?

Still really stressed about solicitors letter. I can't cope with going to court. Don't see what good that would do any way. Talk about a sledge hammer to crack a nut.

I love holding other peoples baby's and I've probably patted a few bumps - now I feel like a freak

Hi all

Scan went really well .... and we're having a boy!! Am pleased now but did have a twinge of dissappointment that I won't get to play dress up with a real live doll Now excited by the thought of having two blondie boys running around all over the place! Got some lovely pics.

At least we won't have to buy any new clothes!

Farting away this end too

Congrats scarlotti! sounds lovely,really happy things went well for you too.

Thanks everyone for your messages!

Congrats scarlotti! A lovely little boy. Hurray! And how did DD's exam go?

Is anybody else not planning to find out the sex? I'm getting all jealous now everybody seems to know!

ninjacat I meant to comment on that solicitor's letter before but it slipped my mind. It seems like your ex is being really extreme - is this all about DS not wanting to speak to him on the phone? Did you ever mention the situation to his mum, if she's a bit more rational? I think I'd try not to mention the letter to DS if possible. Would DS be willing to meet up with his dad if you went too, maybe just for a day (I know it's a long way though) - maybe you could do it on the way to somewhere else, to make it a bit more casual. Sorry none of that's probably very helpful.
Oh, and the twitchy eye - I get that when I'm tired. Speaking of which...

Laugs yes unfortunately the letter is a response to ds refusing to talk. I have spoken to his Mum and she says he's not talking to her either and hasn't even given her his new address (he won't tell us either)
The problem is I'm not dealing with a rational person so really I just despair as to what the best thing is to do. He took me to court last time because I objected to him sharing a bed with ds when ds was 8. In court he agreed to give ds his own bed then thanked the judge for giving him his family back! Even the mediators said they couldn't work with him. Arghhhhh
I wish I'd had a dick head detector when I was 17. Still would never be without ds so guess I have to learn to live with it.

Sorry to go on about me. Just feeling very lost with all this and just want to enjoy being pregnant.

Scarlotti congrats on the little boy

I can't believe hw many posts since i last looked!

Sleepless -thanks for comment on kids, DD looking better this morning, but poor DS is VERY snotty andfeeling sorry for himself, unfortunately DH is working all weekend (2nd one on trot, I haven't had a day off with him in 14 days - nice!!)

Hobnob (think it was you!!) - we did our wills last week, like you we've been meaning to do it for years. It was pretty straight forward, main thing was naming executor and someone who would be willing to look after kids if the worst was to happen! Decided they shouldn't get any money until 23, tho if aything didn't happen SIL & BIL would prob have to use any money we would leave to buy bigger house for all the kids, so prob no money left for them anyway!!

Think i'm coming down with DC's cold, have shocking sore throat and real 'coldy' feeling.

DH is getting concerned about swine flu! He's read that there's going to be an increase in it in the Autumn and one of the main groups of concen are pregnant women in the later stages of pregnancy - great! Anyway he's decided he's going to discuss it with the consultant when we see him. To make matters worse a case has been found in school 2 miles from our house, so he's panicking now! Nice to know he's concened, but I'd rather he was more concerned about how i'm going to look after a 2 yr old, a 1 yr old, be heavily pregnant, working and have him working weekends and all my days off for 17 days in every 5 weeks (he leaves at 6 and returns at bedtime). DH gets days off but they are when i'm at work, so for a 17 day stretch i'm either at work or looking after the kids on my own. I find this period exhausting now so i'm not sure how i'll cope towards the end.

Apols for my winge, I just hate DH working these weekends, selfishly cause i get no help with the kids, but also because i don't get to see him.

Have just read some more posts!

Laugs - we're not planning on finding out the sex, we didn't with DD or DS.

Ninjacat - sorry you're going through the stress with your ex, hope it sorts itself out quckly. By the way, I also get atwitchy eye when tired!!

Ninjacat, sorry that you have to deal with so many problems with your ex. I hope this one will be solved in an easy way and that you can focus on your pregnancy.

Congratulations to your scans, trikken and scarlotti! I can't wait for mine on Monday.
helips, interesting that our husbands family consider our body as their property whereas our own families respect our privacy. My sister's MIL took even pictures of her while breastfeeding which she didn't realise until she saw them and as she said, her breasts were really not even pretty on the pictures but "well presented". And MIL showed all those pictures "of her nephew" to everyone! And I can perfectly imagine mine doing the same. My husband is an only child so we really have lots of pressure on us (we already got a complaint that they had to wait so long for a grandchild)
I hope you will all have an nice weekend and for those celebrating father's day, a nice day with your family, Laugs, I really hope you are getting that apple, too. I find that sooo cute.

Hi all,

Ninja So sorry you are having to deal with all this with your ex - tbh why would he pay for a solicitor that could be dealt with rationally? I hope it gets sorted soon. If he just drove over...

Trikken congrats on your little girl, and scarlotti congrats on the boy!!!
I am looking forward to seeing if the 22 week scan still thinks it's a boy, since I am sure 13 weeks is a bit early to detect it? Having said that I am in boy-mode so I am not sure how I would feel if they said it was a girl now! Accidentally bought the cutest hippo bibs the other day... Although I am sure a girl could cope with hippo bibs!

Usigurke are you finding out the sex on Monday? Good luck!!

BeepBeep I must admit, the swine flu thing had crossed my mind too. But I was more worried that a newborn could get it. I think we have to hope they have a vaccine by then. ANd if we are in v late pregnancy, ie in October, say, then delivering a month early wouldn't be too bad? I suppose it's one of those things we can't do much about, hence not really worth worrying about if that makes sense.

I had a dream last night that I met an ex-colleague walking in Northumberland - I was with DH and we had a little boy, a little girl, and I was pregnant again!!! OMG - although tbh that is my dream scenario, but it was such a nice dream, I didn't want to wake up!!! I am such a freak...

Hey congrats trikken and scarlotti! One more of each

Ninja cat I do feel for you with your ex-problems. He sounds like he is being very immature and emotional about the situation and not considering your poor DS at all. Grrrrr.

DH has gone to Oxford already. Isn't it straneg how even though I am main carer during the weekend when you are doing it alone at the weekend it just seems that much harder? The DSs are fine though and running around in their jammies singing to themselves. I'd better go get them and myself dressed

We need to get our thinking caps on for father's day. We've hidden home made cards in his luggage but we need a present of some sort too I think.

Kaster my brother's wife was told it was a boy at her 12 week scan, which was then confirmed at 20 weeks and at birth!!
It's not something they do as it is still early, but the sex areas develop around the 11-12 weeks and boys naturally are easier to spot!

Ohhhh congrats trikken and scarlotti I'm so happy for you both!!! I'm counting down the days till my scan, can't wait!!!

Congrats trikken and scarlotti. My scan isn't till two weeks on Monday. Still can't decide if I want to find out the sex.

I'm still getting spotting. grrrrr I really thought it would have stopped by now. I panicked cos I was getting strange pains for the last two days. I spoke to the midwife and she doesn't seem too concerned. Same old story 'brown blood blah blah blah'.

I have a theory that it might be thrush causing it(TMI again!!!!) but I've never had any treatment for that before. I've got a GP appointment on Monday morning. Was thinking of rescheduling it as it's the last week of term and I've got tonnes to do but think I'll go for peace of mind.

ninjacat if only we all had dick head detectors..would have saved a hell of a lot of tears and heartache...hope youre not getting to down about it..he is being a real numpty and I'm sorry you're having to deal with it now..as you say though you have a lovely DS which is a blessing. BTW my right eye is twitching too..for three days now.

trikken and scarlotti congratulations on the scans..more pink than blue on this thread isn't there!? so pleased all is well...

*pinkfizzle Switzerland is all choc, cheese and fresh air..add non-stop sunshine and you have a summer in Geneve..its bliss..so good for kids. Am dreading winter..so spoiled with the summer. will be too busy with the baby to notice i suppose.

Curry night was great!!! yummers. so pleased I can bear to cook now..

PS pedal sounds like SPD..i'm sorry I know what you're dealing with. Get a belt and some physio if you can.. I plan to get some physio as carrying DD down the stairs is really getting painful..that and getting out of the bath...ouch!

sleepless Its good your able to cook again, I too have just been able to crack out the saucepans and create a cooking frenzy. (Will admit to Dh and I have curry for breakfast this morning) Is that wrong?

Can't remember names already, but whoever wasn't going to find out the sex of their LO, I'll be in your camp. They don't offer to tell you up here - in fact there are signs everywhere in multiple languages asking you not to ask. I thought it might be for cultural infanticide reasons but have since found out it's just a throughput issue in the scanning department. Double-checking takes time and less scans are done per day... Although I'm glad to have one less decision to make on that front.

I decided today to go for my favourite 3-mile walk which I haven't managed since about April. I was shocked at how difficult I found it, especially uphill. DD was very patient with me toddling along at less than toddler's pace . I wanted to do it before SPD dictates that I can't. I was tempted to give up after the 1st mile, but the prospect of another 4.5 months of not being able to walk even a mile spurred me on. I am now officially crippled for the rest of the day (even after wearing my SI belt) but have that nice tired feeling which you get after earning a nap!

beepbeep so sorry for your situation with DH. I'm struggling with mine at the moment, and that's just because of 3-day conferences, late nights at the office and golf matches galore. It does sometimes feel so lonely. He's currently napping on the sofa after golf, waiting for DD to wake up. Hard to to get into the mindset of thinking he should be DOING something with his time at home.

Scarlotti congrats on your wee boy!

I've just realised I've forgotten my own stepdad on father's day, after being so proud to have organised something for DH. Grrr pg brain!

Hi everyone

We are missing DH today but we've just had some major retail therapy and I managed to get the shoes I wanted for the wedding half price!!! We've also bought DH a present for tomorrow and I'm cooking up a big pot of spag bol for the DSs' and my tea tonight. I wish I could have a nice glass of red with it though ribena perhaps.

Trikken curry for breakfast is cool! I like it!

DH is probably drunk already and on a punt. Hmmm. I don't want to know actually what he's up to. He'll be back tomorrow all unshaven and croaky with red rimmed eyes I'm sure.