Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

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New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

Hello Broodzilla I was always totally against crogs until we went on holiday last year and the DSs and I wore our 'cheepo' crogs (ie not quite the real thing) every day. The DSs love their crogs.

If we are in the prediction game I would bet on a boy for me just because I have two already, DHs family are all boys except one (he has about 15 boy cousins and 1 girl). But that Chinese chart did say a girl for me...

Tigger my DH is out late today too in London for the day so I'm having to do bathtime and bedtime by myself and then eat by myself with Embarrassing Bodies followed by the Apprentice to keep me company!

Well, I think it is a boy as conceived just before or just after ovulation. Old wives tales and chinese charts back this more scientific reason. But since my MIL seems to think that boys are better, I now hope it will be a girl . I guess a bit late for that.
Tamlin - interesting question. I am not sure. I usually put my hand on my bump when I feel the kicking but I am not sure, if I feel it with my hand or just inside. I find it hard to tell. I would like to let my husband feel it too.

Just finally got boys to bed, I'm shattered now!
Going to cook some pasta and put the TV on.

becky enjoy your night, i'll think of you while I'm watching Embarrassing bodies and The Apprentice

Oh on the predicting topic, I have 2 ds's and 2 dss's so I'm guessing this one will be a boy too! Although goodness what we'll call him???

Tamlin I thought I could feel slight movements from outside last night but they're still quite faint. Normally by the time I tell dh and he puts his hand there they've gone!

usigurke the theory about the sex of the baby and the timing of conception only works if you abstain at other times. Theory being that boy sperm swim faster but don't live as long. If you'd bd'd 3 days pre ovulation and then again at ovulation, you can't tell whether it's a fast male swimmer from the scond bd or strong female swimmer from the first bd iyswim.
Based on the Shekles method - but it's not scientific either as there are plenty of girl babies who were concieved from bd-ing on ovulation day!

My mw told me all old wives tales are just that - and both of my dc's have gone against them - still it's fun guessing

I have some faint movements from outside as well. I was in the bath earlier and could see my tummy making lots of different shapes. I even had a kick which felt very strong. Had my bath an hour ago and this baby is still going for it .

My DH is away this week. I feel shattered! I've had 3 under 3's to look after today (I'm a childminder) and it's done me in! So glad I don't do this job full time.

Welcome Broodzilla . My DS was born on the 2nd Nov and this baby is due on the 4th Nov. I might be able to squeeze two birthdays on the same day.

Can feel slight movements from the outside too, again plays hide and seek when Dh tries to feel it.

fruitpastels - I hope you can sleep well at night and feel much better tomorrow morning.
scarlotti - Well, I know that we didn't have sex a couple of days before (well, as far as I remember), as we were incredibly busy with wedding preparation and travelling to the wedding,... there was just no time. So the first trial was half asleep a day after the wedding and just the evening before ovulation (which I felt, sitting on a very long flight, was worried that it hadn't worked the night before (I actually imagined sperms just falling asleep (sorry if tmi) and it would be too late when we finally would be in the hotel ) So it is much more likely it is a boy, although it doesn't have to. But this theory makes much more sense to me than any bump shape or cravings (or chinese charts)
Anyway, as you said, it's fun guessing. Btw, from the craving side the sex changed, I first only wanted salty and sour things, completely gave up on chocolate, but now sweet things and fruit are back.

Tigger I've just eaten my bowl of pasta after getting my DSs into bed - watching the Apprentice the final five (Embarrassing Bodies not on until 9pm and clashes with the Apprentice!!!).

DH is still on his train - slowly making his way home.

According to my dates from the dating scan we must have done the deed before ovulation - does that mean more likely to be a girl?

I really don't know who I want to win: I quite like Lorraine just because she's had a tough life and is a single mother trying really hard to do well in her career.

BBL - Male sperms are faster (I think because the y-chromosome is smaller than the x-chromosome) but do not survive as long as female sperms but all in all sperms can survive several days in the female body whereas the egg cell survives only a couple of hours. So technically, you can get pregnant a couple of days before ovulation until ovulation (maybe a couple of hours later, too. I'm not sure about that).
So if you had sex a couple of days before ovulation, it is more likely to be a girl (because most of the male sperms died already), if it is really just a short time before ovulation it is the quickest one that wins, so it is more likely to be a boy. But this is just about statistics. It could still be a very strong male who survived a couple of days or a very quick female who won the last minute race.

Welcome broodzilla good to have you onboard!

Oh my god I am soooo glad I am freelance and don't have to have interviews - these are interviews from hell!!

Just saying Hello really.

Scarlotti I was 19 when I had DS and he slept in my bed until he was 5. Have no intention of doing the same with this one. It's funny how when I tell people I'm pg this time they are all so happy and congratulate me, I keep expecting the pitying looks and the "are you keeping it?" responses. I guess at 31 it's all a bit more respectable.

Welcome Broodzilla is bump Broodzuki?

BBL watching the apprentice always makes me think of you. Hope you were happy with the result.

Cies are you out there? Not seen your name on this thread for a while, hope all is ok.

Skorpion like the name as I am a Scorpio as will be many of the Babies on this thread.
Not sure about mine though, depends if it makes a timely entrance.

As for babies sex, I swing from boy to girl and back again at least once every 5mins.

Good night to you all, I'm going to sneak some sleep in as due at work in 7hours x

Off on hols in an hour...how will I catch up after a week?!!

Ninjacat sorry you had that response with your first pregnancy. That must have been really upsetting. I was 24 when found out I was pregnant 1st time, which isn't really that young, but I definitely felt immature compared to the other mums I met who were all much more settled. Previously, DP (as he was then) and I would go out 5 nights a week, do our washing at the launderette on a saturday, tidy up... barely ever. Although I was 2 years out of university, we still lived like students. The last few years have definitely been a steep learning curve for us!

How do your and scarlotti's Dcs feel about having new babies? I was 14 when my cousin was born; he and his mum lived with us for a year while they got sorted. I absolutely loved it. I would take him out for a walk in the pram every day, so I could walk past the house of the boy I fancied Happy days!

I'm having my hair cut in 25 mins. At the moment it is longish and straggley (below shoulder). Votes please: all cut off into a bob or just a trim to neaten in up? I need to decide! DH always wants me to get it cut into a bob as I used to have a bob but I always bottle it when I get to the hairdressers.

Oh, and I spent 2.5 hours watching all the Apprentice programmes last night! God only knows what I will do with myself next week. I loved Jo Brand on You're Fired, taking the piss out of Jane Moore for being a 'feminist' who writes for The Sun. Who do we want to win now? I'm going for Yasmina. (and quite liking that name too, if the baby turns out to be a girl...)

I'm back! There's a hairdresses across the road, literally (I've never had to travel so little for a haircut before) and it cost me £15 for a cut and blow dry. Last time I got my haircut was at Toni and Guy in Oxford and it cost £40-something. I'm amazed. And she did a good job! It's a lot shorter but not too drastic.

I once got a fringe cut in at my local hairdressers and it cost me ONE POUND! Amazing. You have reminded me I really need mine done. Mine is long and straight too. Did you get it above your shoulder?

DD is at nursery, I have no work today (for a change ) and I've just been back to bed for an hour! It was fantastic. I do feel a bit guilty though as DH has loads of work on for some deadline today, plus exams to revise for next week, so he's working every night. I will have to force myself into some housework today to ease the guilt

I did: it isn't quite a bob but it is above the shoulder. She layered it a bit. But I am sooo not glamorous so I hate it when they ask you about whether you blow dry, use hair spray, straighten etc because I just don't have time for that stuff! I was also embarrassed to admit it had been 18 months since I'd last had my hair cut

Lovely to go to bed Laugs

My DH is busy too and has just sent me an email to say 'will have to go into office on Sunday' grrrrrr. He's in Leeds today so will be late back again tonight. Is it worth it, that is what I want to know?

Ninjacat - thanks. I love November, got married then, two days before my b-day, and now the sprout! My fave month.

I remember my sis telling me she was pg when she was 19... you're right, people's reactions are very different when it's so young. I think especially in this country, or maybe the West as a whole, you're meant to 'live' before you do the deed. Whatever that means...

I'm 34 now and have been listening to people bleating on about me getting pregnant for years. It seems, for some, whatever you do they know better.

Welcome Broodzilla, love the name.

Laugs I haven't been following this series, but love the interviews episode. Especially the bald guy who dug up Yasmina's accounts. I don't think I liked any of the remaining five to be honest.

Going on on a similar subject, I thoroughly recommend Ben Elton's books on reality life programmes: Chart Throb and Dead Famous spring to mind. Very funny, but also leave you with a strange taste in your mouth...

Hi all, at work and very bored!!!

Can't remember who asked, think it was sleepless, but we have a phil and teds, DD was 19m when DS born, didn't like it much with DS like flat, but as 'proper' double (i.e. 2 seats) it def does the job. My only issue is it's quite heavy and clumbersome (sp?!) but we looked for ages and think it's best for what we wanted. DD was in nursery for some of tim and didn't want to push round double buggy with one in! the only thing i wish i'd maybe got the phil and ted vibe, just looks a bit lighter.

sling wise (i know i'm going back a bit) I had a 'closer' sling and i think it's the best thing since sliced bread!! DS was 10.1lb at birth and still happy to carry him for 4or5 months and didn't bother my back. DH prefered the baby bjorn, but def plan on using my sling again this time. it's a wrap sling but the lazy version as is already stitched so only have to adjust the rings.

It was me asking about slings. I've just googled yours - is it a Close? That looks good as I'd be a bit nervous if all the responsibility was placed on how well I can tie a knot! (I'm sure it's not as simple as that) Did your DH use it at all, or was it not big enough/ too girlie? Could you BF in it?

Like Tamlin (I think) said, I really loved being able to put my feet up and read a book last time while BF'ing, but I just can't see that happening this time with a toddler to chase around. I do remember BF'ing being hard to start with, so thought if the baby could be strapped to me and had easy access, that might at least eradicate some of the problems.

Welcome Broodzilla!

Thanks for your kindness scarlotti & helips, feeling lots better as this morning was the first without any bleeding and GP started treatment yest, so hopefully it is all good from here! GP pointed out my next scan is less than 3 weeks away, so can look forward to that!

I think I may have felt the first movements yesterday. Was in garden with DH and felt a flickering on the left side, like when your eyelid has a little tick. It felt as though you should be able to feel it but poor DH just looked confused! Haven't felt anything since so not sure.

Laugs - I was worried about space with the cot as well, but have figured out a furniture move to allow it to fit. DH and I started talking about where everything is going to go when a whole new person arrives and it ended up in 2 big bags for charity. It's our first, and suddenly it hit me that I will probably never wear some of my clothes I've had since uni, or read some of my millions of chick lit books again (or not for a good few years). Think it could be a great few months of really culling a lot of the random stuff we have about the place!

I keep having quite strong "boy" thoughts about the baby, but as I have had a mental image of a girl all my life I wonder if this is over-compensation iyswim?! (Will be thrilled regardless!)

BBL congrats on the hair! I had mine seriously cut a couple of weeks ago (to beat the "I'm not glowing yet" dumps) and went from fairly non-descript straggle to bob with fringe. I love it! It definitely supplied the boost I needed so hope it does for you too!

Is anyone thinking of doing anything for a father-to-be on Fathers' Day, or is that too cheesy? DH has been so good with me in hosp and then lying around the place was thinking it would be a good excuse to thank him. Hmm, will need to think!

Have a good (cooler) day

Laugs you will be putting your feet up and reading a book while BFing but it's more likely to be The Gruffalo than anything else!

Perhaps that is why I went to get my haircut - 'the I'm not glowing yet dumps' I've definitely got those. I just feel frumpy at the moment! That's a good theory. I do feel better. DS2 wasn't impressed though. He said he liked my longer hair.

PS I hope all you UK citizens are going to vote today! Sorry but I feel quite strongly about people exercising their right to vote (having spent four years studying Economics and Politics at Uni). I have no idea where our polling station is in Shrewsbury so might get lost trying to find it!