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Due June 09: The final Countdown: RLT, BH, SPD, HB, EC, VBAC & no plans to TTC again!

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Ineedmorechocolatenow · 06/05/2009 17:56

Here it is!

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silkcushion · 28/05/2009 22:42

MRSM - sounds awful this afternoon. I agree with Ineed that you seemed very calm - think I'd have been in a panic. Hope you've improved now.

INeed - glad to hear you had a sympathetic mw and a sweep. Fingers crossed that something happens soon.

Tee - love the baby names

Hello to everyone else

I've even packed my 'emergency transfer to hospital bag' today. Homebirth kit is downstairs - arrived this morning - bit bloody scary - wish I hadn't read the list of stuff they've brought (including loads of medicine to stay in the fridge) - mw did say most of it was precautionary. Think I was expecting some rubber gloves or something not the whole hospital pharmacy supplies!! {naive emoticon}

Trying to get to bed earlier tonight as shattered again

WIll check in for 'no baby registration' in the morning.

lauraloo09 · 29/05/2009 06:29

morning juners hope most of you had a good sleep or in fact are still sleeping

I have been up most of the night feeling sick, but didn't notice any cramping until i woke up for a loo trip at 3 and since then not been able to sleep good i hate the feeling of needing to be sick. Also (TMI ALERT!) last night when i tried to go in my bath it took me 10 mins to actually leave the toilet as i had runs...and after about a month of constipation this bothered me. At least I have midwife at 9am for antenatal check and another GTT so going to discuss this with her. I think the thing bothering me most now is the sick feeling!

I hope you other juners are feeling better and hopefully we'll hear from bigcar soon x

DorisIsAPinkDragon · 29/05/2009 06:29

Hi all just checking in

and waiting to se how Bigcar and effie are....

No news here (bah humbug) wil catch up properly later.

Naat- good luck with the move that must be this weekend hope it all goes to plan.

Right 5 mins peace before the DD's wake.

DorisIsAPinkDragon · 29/05/2009 06:34

Oh laura x posted.

what a shit night (forgive the pun ), it may be something or it may just be a bug good luck with the mw, if the cramps get any worse you know what to do!

If you're really not feeling well can you ask to delay the GTT for a day or 2 nothing worse than trying to keep the suguary stuff down when you're feeling like poo (and ? how accurate it would be if it's going straight through!)

lauraloo09 · 29/05/2009 06:36

lol at the shit night pun doris brought a smile to my face

daisy5 · 29/05/2009 06:44

Good morning ladies. Still [fuming emoticon] about silly midwife and will ring the doctors surgery to get her name. I really cannot understand why she wouldn't check if I was dilated. During my last pregnancy they would quite happily check things from 'downstairs' to see all is ok. This pregnancy I've only had to take my pants off for the scan. Is this some new health and safety directive or something [joking]. I have been having contractions of one kind or another for 10 days, surely it is important to know if I am dilating or not. She only would have done it if I was contracting then and there, in front of her. As for the 'it's not natural to interfere' response, if I put my fingers in my fanny at home to see how it is all feeling, nothing peculiar or 'unnatural' happens. How odd!

Thought I was going into labour last night, the contractions were so regular, but just lacked intensity and disappeared when I moved around/went to sleep, so another anxious night passes.

blueberry - if I had her at the hospital I would ask for a different midwife. I could not trust her judgement after what she said yesterday but I think she is a community midwife.

ermintrude - I think you are right about the lack of experience/confidence etc and trying to make up for it. It really came across all wrong.

silk - you are so right about the wills. We keep meaning to do it. What is the quickest/cheapest way to do a will until we get a chance to lodge one with some lawyers. Is there a form you can print off on the Internet or something?

Ineed - I hope your sweep is working and you can be out of your pain soon.

tee - love your shortlist for names

mrsmcjnr - I know what you mean. I had croup as a child and my throat swells with stings so I shudder when I hear you describe your experience. It is terrifying and you sound so brave. Bipolar MIL - I see what you mean. My cousin is such a lovely person but her bipolar disorder makes it quite exhausting at times.

naat - I too watched the last ER and cried. My contractions came through the whole program. The childbirth scene was a bit disturbing for us pregnant ladies. I loved that Rachel Green came back. Dr Carter has such a gorgeous smile.

choccie - I hope your dh wasn't too late.

littlesarah - have a wonderful weekend - you deserve it.

hello bigcarnewmummy, bunnymother, snowwombat, laura, lynne and mspotatochip

For anyone else feeling confused about being able to tell the difference between intense Braxton-Hicks and contractions, I found this on the internet last night, which told me more than my midwife did. I am frustrated by not knowing if labour is close or if I am still two weeks out!!!

Braxton-Hicks contractions and "real" labor contractions differ only in intensity and progression. BH contractions ARE real contractions, and for some women they can feel nearly as strong as full-blown labor contractions. In women who have a very high frequency of BH contractions throughout pregnancy, it is normal for them to increase further in both frequency and intensity as birth approaches. Some women enter into a prodromal labor pattern, with labor starting and stopping repeatedly before settling in for birth. This can be frustrating, but rest assured it is definitely within the spectrum of normal, and all these contractions are toning up the uterus and may ultimately be shortening the length of the big event.

There are two key factors for telling when you are really in labor. The first is nighttime. Generally, BH and prodromal labor contractions will give you a rest at some point in the evening, allowing you to sleep. When "real" labor hits, it will wake you up, and you will not be able to sleep through a contraction (even though you may still sleep in between them at first). Second, once you enter active labor, it will require your full, undivided attention. You will not be interested in reading, watching tv, or carrying on a conversation. You will not smile and if you do, you will look dazed or "spacey." This is an important emotional signpost, and is much more reliable than length, strength, or frequency of contractions, or even dilation and effacement.

Internal exams primarily check for dilation and effacement, and occasionally the station of the baby. However, because they are done with the mother lying on her back, the station of the baby may not be the same as it is when she stands up, so this is unreliable. Also, dilation and effacement occur at different rates in different women, and are not reliable signposts for birth. Some women can be completely closed, and give birth within a few hours, while other women can walk around dilated to 4 for weeks before giving birth.

Sometimes, if the baby is in a less-than-ideal position for birth, it will set off this prodromal pattern, hoping to use the contractions to move into a better position. You can use optimal fetal positioning (OFP) techniques to assist in this adjustment. If the baby moves into a better position, the contractions may ease off a little until birth, and the birth may come sooner.

daisy5 · 29/05/2009 06:48

oh laura - what a horrible night. Poor you honey. I hope your midwife is more helpful than mine was.

doris - morning there. Any cramps at the doris household?

lauraloo09 · 29/05/2009 06:52

daisy thanks for posting the info on BH and real labour contractions makes for interesting reading
Here's hoping I dont get the midwife i got a few weeks ago, could really have knocked her out when she felt my tummy and said "oh big baby...but then again it's mostly mummy!"

Good luck phoning the doctors today, hope you get her name and report her!

daisy5 · 29/05/2009 06:58

laura - that was a pretty silly thing to say from a midwife too .

Reading back on the information above, i disagree with one thing, I watched TV throughout 6 hours of contractions and wasn't that 'dazed' at first. Lots of ladies read magazines, or play cards etc. So that seems to be a bit exaggerated.

Let us know how it goes.

bunnymother · 29/05/2009 08:16

Morning ladies!

No baby here, and no real signs of pre-labour. Am becoming more and more convinced that my LO will be late.

For those of us who are first timers, here is an extract from an email my Mum sent over night. She had 3 whoppers (me included) with nothing beyond gas and air: "[if you are like me] the birthing process will not be as portrayed on TV ? it will be uncomfortable, but not excruciatingly and agonisingly painful. Mind you, you will have moments where you will curse [DH] and all males in general!! You, being the first baby, were also the longest labour ? about 6 hours if memory serves me correctly."

Just wanted to share that, not to say what an Amazon she is, but to start the day with thoughts of a positive birthing experience.

Off for a nap! ((waves))

Naat · 29/05/2009 08:39

Morning Juners!

Crappy night's sleep here... Woke up at 2.30 and managed to go back to sleep at 4ish

I guess I'll watch ER in a while and after that I'll take a nap.

laura sorry to hear you were on the same page last night Good luck at the appt, fingers crossed for a helpful and nice MW!

daisy thanks for that info! Hope things get started for you today! And thanks for warning me about the tears when watching ER Not that it's hard to cry over anything these days

bunny your mum is a sweetheart! Positive emails/thoughts/words are what we need! Enjoy your nap!

doris yep, the move is tomorrow at 9.30! I'm only gutted about the internet thing, but I will spend my days at cafe nero if it's necessary for me to keep in touch with you ladies I don't drink coffee but mum does

silk oh! How exciting you have all your HB gear at home! No firemen brought it, I guess, unlike where LittleS lives Hope you got a nice rest last night

Right, no more news here, LO kicking but nothing out of the ordinary (phew!) Lots of BHs, though

thinking of bigcar and effie!!!

Hope you have lovely mornings!

Tee2072 · 29/05/2009 08:53

Good morning Juners!

mrsmcJ that must have been so scary. Glad you are doing better.

daisy thanks for the information. I was wondering the other night what I was having, but I think they were just very strong BH. And they haven't been back!

laura sounds like a horrid night. Sorry to hear. Hope you get a chance to rest today.

Hope everyone is doing well and that we hear from bigcar and effie soon!

Today I really am going to pack my hospital bag. And put sheets on the cot and the amby!

LittleSarah · 29/05/2009 09:25

Bunny - Good to have a reassuring experience from your mum! (I won't be going into my mum's experience here (!) but certainly my first was very positive)

Daisy - Great info on BH. I have to say I couldn't have watched TV when I had my (regular) contractions but I think my labour got rather strong quite quickly. I think when first stage takes longer there is more time for chatting/reading etc.

Naat - All nearly ready for the ball. My mum is getting dd at 4 so that will give me a good couple of hours to preen and primt (sp?) myself! Was going to take dd to see Coraline today but weather so lovely I'm thinking picnic in park instead!

Silk - Medicines in the fridge? Get nothing like that here! Do get a large box but I don't look inside... ignorance is bliss sometimes .

Laura - Sorry to hear about your less than comfortable evening. Still it sounds very 'prelabour' promising to me. I have been nauseous but that's about all, cramps have settled down. Have no idea when this one will arrive.

MrsMcJnr - Poor you yesterday! That sounds just terrifying! Hope you are feeling better today and glad those bags are ready to go!

Well as mentioned it looks like a trip to the park and more get ready for the ball today! Oooh, must charge camera battery!

LittleSarah · 29/05/2009 09:27

Primp obviously! (Pregnant brain!)

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 29/05/2009 10:04

Morning all...

No signs other than lots of cramping in the night. Forgot to mention that LO is 3/5ths engaged too so surely that and being 1cm dilated with a 'favourable' cervix should mean that it can't be long.... surely? I'm getting so impatient now!

Thinking of effie and bigcar - I bet bigcar's had her baby by now!

Sorry to hear about crappy sleep and nasty tummy upsets.

Love to all x

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ermintrude13 · 29/05/2009 10:33

Hello everyone

Daisy thanks for the contractions info - it's all preparing those wombs for the big push. The only way my experience differs is that I remained completely lucid throughout the first stage right up until transition. It was certainly intense - no way did I feel like reading or watching telly - but I wasn't spacy or dazed at all, and in fact with DD I strode into the birth centre 45 mins before she was born, stopping to wiggle thru contractions, and merrily introducing my DH to everyone.

Bunny, nice of your mum to send reassuring words. I'll second them - had both mine with just TENS machine for pain relief and didn't find it unbearable by any means. As long as it's progressing your body tells you how to deal with it - and if things slow down we'll all have lots of options and help with how to proceed, so there's no need to stress (easier said than done I know).

silkcushion My hb kit is a bin bag full of latex gloves, the little red baby health book and some leaflets, and a yellow box for sharps, but no actual sharps. There's so little I can't see the point - if DH has to deliver the baby there won't be time for him to don gloves, I fear

Off to make brownies for DH's birthday tomorrow. And that will be the most energetic thing I manage today...

silkcushion · 29/05/2009 11:20

just checking in - can't be too long as picking dd up at midday today. Hoping she'll have her nice lunch time nap at home before a couple of friends from NCT group (last time round) come over. Megan should have a fab time with Charlie and Zac - last time we all met up Zac was running after her trying to kiss her - very cute (until she refused to kiss him and he hit her) - I fear I've raised a tease

Wills - I think you can buy a do it yourself will kit from Smiths (which means you're bound to able to get one on line). If you're affairs are straight forward you really can write them yourself like this (dh was married before and has other children so we saw a solicitor). Very important to get independent people to witness your signatures.

HB kits - seems very different experiences in different places. Medicine in the fridge includes the injection for the third stage, lidocaine (for stitching I guess) neonatal narcan (my ER watching tells me that's for heroine overdoses?!) an enema and some other stuff I've forgotten. The huge box includes a placental bag and box (eeuugghhh) a baby rescusitation (sp?) kit and all sorts of other scary stuff. On top of this I've got loads of old towels, a tesco value shower curtain (89p), a torch (as requested by mw), some hob nobs and some crunch creams (dh will eat them if they go in the kitchen cupboard) - think I'm ready!

Hope you all have good days - I'll catch up this evening.

June2009 · 29/05/2009 11:57

Hey,

One day I'll have time to catch up properly!

Naat will you have a phone landline at all or does the phone line come at the same time as the ADSL? (by the way it's worth setting up your router before the date and trying it as they switch it on earlier sometimes.)

Tee Love your names too.

Just going over my labour/maternity bag and nursery and getting all confused (and dripping with sweat, is it really stupidly hot or is it just me??).
Not sure how many breast pads to bring (milk only comes after a few days innit? How much colostrum can we be leaking?)
And how many nighties...
I've gone through lists and put stuff in and now wondering if I really need all this stuff. I'm gonna have to go through posted lists again.

We can't decide where to put baby stuff.
I assume it should all go in the nursery, thats what people do, right?.
There is no sink in the nursery room, and that's where I'd like to put the changing table.
Is it a problem that there is no running water in that room?

Tee2072 · 29/05/2009 12:12

june there is no running water in my nursery either. I am going to use those antibacterial hand gels for instant hand cleaning and then wash in the loo when I get a chance. That worked quite well for my SIL!

Everything for baby is going in nursery, except Amby which is in our room.

chocciedooby · 29/05/2009 12:19

Oh Mrsmc sounds like you had a terrible experience yesterday. Very frightening for you. I hope you are ok today. Sounds like you had a serious allergic reaction to something and possibly that bread you mentioned. If I were you I would have to get it checked out to ensure that you don't have to suffer like that again.

No baby arrivals yet then?!

All you ladies having home births are so brave. I can see the benefits to it for sure but I am too much of a sissy...

Daisy - that information on BH and contractions is very interesting. It has actually made things clearer for me. I realise now that I have had BH's before with DC2. I thought they were real labour contractions but must have been BH. They went on for a full day and I went into hospital only to be told "baby not coming yet, but would be in the next 24 hours". They were so right. I woke in the middle of the night with 1 huge "real" labour contraction and I knew that was it. Ladies you will all know when the time has come
I could not watch tv, read or hold a conversation. I was too busy focusing on my breathing and I was actually in a bit of a trance .

Just remember all you 1st time mummys - Labour is what everyone has been waiting 9 months for and it is over in a jiffy compared to the months of waiting, tiredness, nausea, sickness, piles, swelling, etc. It is a remarkable experience.

I didn't sleep too badly last night. Only 2 trips to the loo.

Had my OB visit this morning. Everything normal. The swelling I have in my feet is completely normal (especially in this heat). BP perfect Saw baby on scan with its heart beating very strongly and could even see its whole chest rising and falling with each breath.Couldn't see if there was a willy or not ! I explained my pains to DR and he said all normal. Just strong BH. Baby not coming yet. Maybe I can relax a bit more now.

chocciedooby · 29/05/2009 12:23

Naat - sorry to hear you had a crappy nights sleep. Hope you can manage to get some rest today.

June - no running water in our nursery either. I put everything in the nursery except for the moses basket.

oh, when I was at my appt. this morning a couple sat next to me with their 3 week old daughter. She was absolutely gorgeous. It dawned on me how small these babies are and I am getting more excited by the day now to meet my lo...

Hi to everyone else.

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 29/05/2009 12:24

Just had a huge 'show' when I went to the loo.... I'm now having big cramps.... I think it's happening girls....

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Naat · 29/05/2009 12:38

Oh my God, ineed!!! How exciting!!!

I'll catch up properly in a little, I'll go watch ER now

lauraloo09 · 29/05/2009 12:48

oh god ineed here's hoping and how exciting do keep us posted!

Just back from hospital after getting GTT done, got to go back next thursday for results so not getting risk assessment done until then...second time they have put it back.
I discussed my problems and pains with midwife and she said i could be ready to go any day but hopefully should hold off for at least a week until they get results but if cramping continues or gets worse I am to call straight away. I am 3/5ths engaged but dont know if i am dilating yet but last night there was more snotty looking discharge but clear (no blood and clumps like last week) As I was sitting in the hospital between blood samples I did have more cramps and tightenings but prob just BH...damn lol

Phoenix · 29/05/2009 13:04

Small hijack

Laura - I was just having a nosey on this thread to see if you had any births yet and realised you commented on by 4d scan thread. Well i had the scan and pics of my boy are on my profile, thank you

Good luck to you all