Due April 2009 - Chapter 30: Orbit Has a Real Name AND Springy Has Sprung!! Fanjo Warriors Form Birth Battle Formation!!

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a title everyone will be happy with may you all post and be merry

may we have many labours and births on theis thread!!!!!

Come on Girls!!!!

morning! purple that all sounds horribly stressful you poor thing. Hope today is going to be a lot better for you.

I entirely sympathise, my mum came over today to take DS1 to her house (which is lovely and I am suitably grateful) and managed to make me stressed out, first she suggested putting Orbit in the garden because he wouldn't settle (erm, Mum, it's tipping down with rain and I'm not planning on raising him on Truby King methods, thanks) and then that Orbit shouldn't be in a carry cot in the lounge with us but should be upstairs out of the way (which would mean me running up and down stairs all the time, on a cs scar), and then when I said 'DS1 it's raining quite hard shall we put your coat on' as they were leaving she said 'Oh it's hardly raining at all' - why why why contradict me? what's the point? felt totally undermined in the way only mothers can make you feel.....

Today is all at sixes and sevens anyway, DP has the d&v bug so is in a rotten mood but has gone to work anyway in Cardiff . He couldn't help with Orbit last night when he wouldn't settle until 10.30pm and fed ALL EVENING, as I REALLY don't want Orbit to get the bug, DS1 was being a monkey this morning, I woke up with a splitting headache, and to cap it all DS1 is withholding poo - he is refusing to poo either in his nappy or on the potty, and it keeps coming out in tiny bits, which means lots of nappy changes and a miserable DS1. (Sorry, TMI!) So I'm stressed!

And although it's fab that Mum is having DS1 so much, I can't help feeling that it's a bit of a sad reflection on me as a mother if I can't cope with two children by myself, after all, she had five! I know it's ridiculous and I should just be glad of the help, but I think I'm also sad that I'm not able to spend as much time with DS1 as before, and that he prefers being at Grannie's to home at the moment...

Sorry, once I started typing that all just flooded out!

soon2be I had lots of reflexology leading up to Orbit's birth, and my reflexologist said it can help move things along if your body is ready to go. Worth a try, and if nothing else it's very relaxing!

WFH -

sounds like you are having a rough time. i know just how you feel about being undermined and DS preferring his gran's house to his own home (it's like that now with MIL - how will it be when baby comes??)

with the withholding thing - we went throgh that with DS. how long has he been withholdig?
a few months ago i just got fed up and went to the docs about it. (it was no fun changing 10 pooey diapers a day. 3yos are harder to change than babies!!) she prescribed Movicol. it is amazing. DS is no longer afraid to go poo and goes sometimes 5 times a week! (much better than the ONCE he was doing before) and he's happy to do it on the toilet. I just wish we had gone to the docs sooner, would have saved me a lot of worry and guilt.

It's rough isn't it, with mothers and MILs, and it's really hard not to take things very personally when you're tired, emotional and hormonal.... I keep trying to get things in perspective, but perspective seems to be deserting me a bit. Lots of hugs for you too mistress purple, sounds like we need to look after each other on this one.

It's really sad as well to admit that actually things probably never will be the same with DS1 now Orbit is here, and we probably won't be as close as we were, or not in the same way. I know he's 3 and his horizons are broadening and he has lots of fab relationships other than the one he has with me, but I keep wanting to wail 'But I'm his MUMMY!' and start weeping. Ridiculous, isn't it!

On the poo front, he's only been doing it for a couple of days, so we'll see how we get on, but thanks for the tip. We do have some of that lactulose stuff, so I might try that if he's still doing it over the weekend.

Sometimes I feel like all I do all day is change nappies, feed Orbit and wash my hands, my poor skin is so dry! Ho hum.

hugs to purple and wfh - but i will be watching out for the greek doctor purple .

my mil is another who likes to undermine - think you cant beat them so you either have to let it wash over you (hard when hormonal pre or post birth) or come on here and rant. but wfh - it will get easier with two - just need some time to adjust - its a big change.

bb - i'm another who dry pails it - used to soak them but mas gagging every time i went near the bucket - so much nicer now (as long as you have a well fitting lid).

purple - i find it really hard not having a car and being stuck sometimes (especially just now when i dont really have the energy to chase after ds on the bus) - dont really know what the answer is though - its one reason we are trying to move so we can walk to more so can only be sympathetic.

wfh - i worry about the same thing with ds and will things be the same but its great for them to have lots of people to care for them - their mummy will never lose her special place though. they will always want to come to you for the really special hugs etc.

hey gals, can't stay but thought you might like the birth story

will try to sort pictures asap but need a shower and bed now.

phd x

hi all, hope the new babies here are being nice to you all. Congrats to the brand new arrivals. I am getting very ipatient now and still have a while to wait.
Past few days been getting some strong contractions but they never progress which is really annoying me now, never had this with dd or ds.
Also my laptop power pack has died so I am writing this via my phone as dh has his laptop at work and the wireless connection is useless with his old pc.
hopefully new power pack here in a day or so to keep me sane.
Also had a mad panic yesterday when ds(2.5yrs nearly) came to me with a smal vial of kalli phos pills from my homeopathic childbirth kit and said 'yummy yummy' he had swallowed the whole lot!!!!!
Imagine my panic when he said that, not knowing how they could effect a child.
Anyway phoned homeopath at helios and they said it was fine and should not effect him too much apart from being a bit energetic probably, which he certainly was for the rest of the day. then got in a row with dh who was working at home about where he got them from until he realised our little son is a big climber and had got into the back of a cupboard where I had thought they were safe. arrrrgggg. ok this phone typing is getting to me know so hope all is well with all here.

Lauren, are you my buddy I seem to remember, if you have my mobile number text me your number as I cannot get hold of my emails right now. laptops are a pain sometimes.

WFH, I can't cope with the kids I've got either. My mum sweeps in from time to time, in a haze of Chanel with a pashmina draped around her, giving them treats and generally enjoying their best behaviour. With me they are real people. It's no commentary on us as mothers. Just sit back with a gin sling and a fondant fancy and let them do the work, that's what I say.

Oh BoffinMum, a gin sling sounds about right today! I think I have this idealised version of my mother with her five children just coping magnificently at all times, but actually she has willingly admitted that she didn't play with us all that much, plus she had au pairs when we were small. And I'm sure she bellowed at us occasionally, too.

DP thinks we should get an au pair. I might tell him the tales of yours to put him off.... Besides, not sure where the money would come from!

Have just realised the reason I am so uncomfortable is that Orbit is still sleeping and one of my boobs is so full of milk it's about to tip out of my bra... Don't want him to wake up till I've had my lunch, but I could do with being emptied!

On the bright side, our new BuggySnuggle has arrived and it's so lovely and warm and soft I could climb into it myself. In fact, I just might......

thanks for all the support ladies; I have to say that I've felt a bit like I cannot enjoy Meg because I know that in the near future we're going to 'fight' and I'll be in pain... that's actually my biggest concern. I'm coming around to the idea that I'm just going to have to get used to the pain too...

Going to gp this aft... Meg and my first outing out alone! eek! dh is at job...apparently I have/ may have mastitis.

trying to read some other messages here.

wfh: I sympathise with exactly how you feel about ds. I thought things would never be the same again with dd(now 5) when ds(2.5) was born. But things settled down and I feel a bit easier this time as I know they have each other and dh for the initial phase when I am totally taken over with a newborn.
DD and I have a fab relationship and its certainly just as good as before ds was born so please try not to worry.

will say it can be hard work especially when granny always buys so many treats when she comes and they are perfect for her but I would never change that as she is coming over in a bit to help with getting the house tidy before things might happen here.

12 Feb: Skiingone: MARIANNA 4lb 4oz
20 Feb: Glaskham: RUBY MARIE 4lb 3oz
04 Mar: Barbarella: ESTELLA, ROSANNA, OTIS
05 Mar: Kazkiss: ISABELLE FLORENCE 4lb 6oz & OLIVER THOMAS 3lb 7oz
15 Mar: Babypringle: OSCAR WILLIAM 7lb 2oz
28 Mar: Claireykitten: VIOLET ROSE 7lb 9oz
29 Mar: WhatFreshHell: FELIX DEVLIN ALEXANDER 10lb 5.5oz AKA ORBIT BUTTONHOLE
31 Mar: Mumblemum: ORSON XERXES
02 Apr: Oddeyes: ELEANOR 9lb 8oz
03 Apr: Bleuravin: MEGAN LILLIAN CONSTANCE
03 Apr: Bumpalump: JACOB 8lb
04 Apr: BabyBolat: KARAHAN 6lb 5oz
05 Apr: Mrsfossil: ISLA LILIAN 7lb 10oz
06 Apr: BoffinMum: FELIX DAVID GORDON 7lb 9oz
11 Apr: Electra: NAME TBA 6lb 3oz
11 Apr: SpringySunshine: GEORGE NATHAN 8lb 15oz
11 Apr: RachelinScotland: CLEMENT JAMES 8lb 14oz
11 Apr: Lou031205: ISLA SOPHIA 7lb 9oz
11 Apr: AuldAlliance: ALEXANDRE 7lb 6oz
12 Apr: Phdlife: DD 9lb 3oz
13 Apr: MathsMummy27: AMELIA CHARLOTTE
14 Apr : Purlease: ADAM
15 Apr: Juwesm: DETAILS TBA
15 Apr: Bronze: ISAAC JOHN

Still yet to hatch...

03 Apr : Kalikaroo: SURPRISE! (28), 1st timer
06 Apr : Pintofstella: DS 5.7
08 Apr : LuLuBai: 1 DD born 02 Apr 07
09 Apr : Minush
10 Apr : Hopeful1
12 Apr : Brettgirl, 1st timer
13 Apr : Dungungirl(30): BOY! 1 m/c, DS 4 years
16 Apr : Tristaleejac(25): 1 ds, 3 years
17 Apr : Surprisenumber3(32): DS1 9 DSS 9 DS2 5 GIRL!
18 Apr : Gingersarah: 1st baby
18 Apr : Lauren61
18 Apr : Salbysea: (28) 1st timer
19 Apr : Kittycatisgettingfat (29) 1st timer
21 Apr : B52s: DS will be 2 and a quarter
21 Apr : Staryeyed
21 Apr : Schulte
22 Apr : PuzzleRocks: DD 23mths GIRL!
22 Apr : Soon2befamilyof4 DD 13 months.
23 Apr : FatandFedup DC3
24 Apr : conkertree (27): DS 17 months
24 Apr : Frekkles
25 Apr : Swaliswan: DD 17 months
25 Apr : ReallyTired
25 Apr : TarteTatin
27 Apr : Bicnod
27 Apr : Carameli
27 Apr : Ilovesummer 3rd dc
27 Apr : Purplemonkeydishwasher DS 3yo
28 Apr : Satheresitting
30 Apr : Nutty Taff (27) DD 5 GIRL

surely kalikaroo must have had hers by now? Does anybody know if she has a buddy? Nutty is quiet today.

whatfresh - I have now contacted the lady about the reflexology. The shortest session she offers is an hour - did you find it ok staying still fo rthis amount of time? I get very uncomfortable very quickly and when DH gives me a massage in the evening it usually lasts 5 mins max because I get to restless. She did say though she has a lovely comfortable table with a hole for bump and boobs!

Can you guys help me decide what to go for? This is what she said she offers:
"i am a specialist maternity therapist and antenatal teacher offering massage on a special pregnancy bed which has holes for your bump and boobs. You are able to lie on your tummy and have a wonderful massage. It is a full body massage which builds in some shiatsu, reflexology and lymphatic drainage. It lasts I hour 15 mins and is £49. I am able to stimulate some shiatsu and reflexology points around the body that can help to prime the labour.
The maternity reflexology works the whole body via reflexes on the feet. It is very relaxing and helps to balance the hormones and there are some points that are able to prime the body for labour. There are no guarantees that it will trigger labour but in my 3 years of practising it, it has been quite successful. This session is 1 hour and costs £32."

I was thinking about going for the second one - but that is because I am very stingy and looked at the price with my mian priority! .

WFH DS will always need you and you will always be his mummy, just wait until he is tired, upset or just needs a hg no one else will do other than you! At the end of the day you are the everyday one, others will sweep in, do the fun stuff then sweep out again but for everyday needs he will always need you - I still need my mum sometimes, when I am down, sick, giving birth!!!

LOL at buggy snuggle!!!

Ok think I have sorted out the mat pay thing they are going to pay me the extra days next month - will be watching very carefully though as do not want to be screwed over on this one!

Am pretty much there with all the house stuff methinks - window, door and skirting board in the bathroom have had a coat of gloss, every room has been cleaned, Karahan and BB both bathed and no longer smelly (BB even moisturised!!!!) all that needs to be done now is hoover through the house but that will only take 20 minutes and I can do that this afternoon when kara goes down for his nap (she says he hasn't even woken up from this mornings nap!). Am hoping that by tomorrow the bathroom will be pretty much there bar putting up mirrors and shelves etc then I can give it a really good clean and forget about it for a LONG time - seriously we plan to sell this house in 18 months and we are not doing any more decorating until we move!!!

Purple day sounds horrid - but yay for being PE free!

I need to wake Kara up and get him dressed as we are meeting DH for lunch but he will get all tired and hungry and I have to leave in 10 mins - really should have done in 30 minutes ago but was enjoying time to myself a bit too much [guilty emoticon]

My house is such a mess! There is stuff everywhere! Its really awful. I have been doing it most of the day but have hardly dented it (but to be fair, I do have DD causing more mess as I go along).

DD has just dropped off to sleep on the sofa. I know I should wake her up so she goes to bed at 7pm but it is soo tempting when this is the only time I have to myself! Finding it hard to even get the chance to go to the loo etc. I am still not dressed!

My DD is also asleep on the sofa and taking up all the space - normally I managed to squeeze onto the sofa next to her but no chance today!

Is it rude to just hang up on a call centre salesperson when he keeps calling although you've already explained you don't want to speak to him?

Hi everyone

Just popping in to say I have decided on a name for dd3 - Isabella Caroline.

Hope you are all well. Congrats to the new arrivals!

Lovely name, Electra. Updated for Isabella.

12 Feb: Skiingone: MARIANNA 4lb 4oz
20 Feb: Glaskham: RUBY MARIE 4lb 3oz
04 Mar: Barbarella: ESTELLA, ROSANNA, OTIS
05 Mar: Kazkiss: ISABELLE FLORENCE 4lb 6oz & OLIVER THOMAS 3lb 7oz
15 Mar: Babypringle: OSCAR WILLIAM 7lb 2oz
28 Mar: Claireykitten: VIOLET ROSE 7lb 9oz
29 Mar: WhatFreshHell: FELIX DEVLIN ALEXANDER 10lb 5.5oz AKA ORBIT BUTTONHOLE
31 Mar: Mumblemum: ORSON XERXES
02 Apr: Oddeyes: ELEANOR 9lb 8oz
03 Apr: Bleuravin: MEGAN LILLIAN CONSTANCE
03 Apr: Bumpalump: JACOB 8lb
04 Apr: BabyBolat: KARAHAN 6lb 5oz
05 Apr: Mrsfossil: ISLA LILIAN 7lb 10oz
06 Apr: BoffinMum: FELIX DAVID GORDON 7lb 9oz
11 Apr: Electra: ISABELLA CAROLINE 6lb 3oz
11 Apr: SpringySunshine: GEORGE NATHAN 8lb 15oz
11 Apr: RachelinScotland: CLEMENT JAMES 8lb 14oz
11 Apr: Lou031205: ISLA SOPHIA 7lb 9oz
11 Apr: AuldAlliance: ALEXANDRE 7lb 6oz
12 Apr: Phdlife: DD 9lb 3oz
13 Apr: MathsMummy27: AMELIA CHARLOTTE
14 Apr : Purlease: ADAM
15 Apr: Juwesm: DETAILS TBA
15 Apr: Bronze: ISAAC JOHN

Still yet to hatch...

03 Apr : Kalikaroo: SURPRISE! (28), 1st timer
06 Apr : Pintofstella: DS 5.7
08 Apr : LuLuBai: 1 DD born 02 Apr 07
09 Apr : Minush
10 Apr : Hopeful1
12 Apr : Brettgirl, 1st timer
13 Apr : Dungungirl(30): BOY! 1 m/c, DS 4 years
16 Apr : Tristaleejac(25): 1 ds, 3 years
17 Apr : Surprisenumber3(32): DS1 9 DSS 9 DS2 5 GIRL!
18 Apr : Gingersarah: 1st baby
18 Apr : Lauren61
18 Apr : Salbysea: (28) 1st timer
19 Apr : Kittycatisgettingfat (29) 1st timer
21 Apr : B52s: DS will be 2 and a quarter
21 Apr : Staryeyed
21 Apr : Schulte
22 Apr : PuzzleRocks: DD 23mths GIRL!
22 Apr : Soon2befamilyof4 DD 13 months.
23 Apr : FatandFedup DC3
24 Apr : conkertree (27): DS 17 months
24 Apr : Frekkles
25 Apr : Swaliswan: DD 17 months
25 Apr : ReallyTired
25 Apr : TarteTatin
27 Apr : Bicnod
27 Apr : Carameli
27 Apr : Ilovesummer 3rd dc
27 Apr : Purplemonkeydishwasher DS 3yo
28 Apr : Satheresitting
30 Apr : Nutty Taff (27) DD 5 GIRL

Isabella caroline is a lovely name

Defiantly hang up on the sales person. If they bug me like that I just say "no thank you" and put the phone down before they get a chance to say anything else.

soon2be.. personally id go for the reflexology one with the feet, id be way to uncomfy lying down and still for an hour even if it was on a special bed.. plus your dh can do body massage which can help the reflexology one sounds more appealing to me. thats just me though!

carameli - have text you

electra - beautiful name, very cute!

schulte - not rude at all hes being rude not you!!

oh but for just 17 more you get full body and an extra half hour - I would go for that one - it's probably uncomfy at home but she has a proper bed with holes for boobs and bump so should be much better!!!

If Puzzle has had her baby - which it seems she probably has - I have no due date buddy anymore .

DD is no longer asleep - she only selp for 10 mins anyway!