Heeereee comes June, its the home streeeeetch!

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evening all

Just seen a house to DIE for on escape to the country [drool emoticon] would fit my brood with room to spare! Shame I don't have anywhere near their budget

loooouise, just when things seemed to be settling for you, sorry to hear your mums behaving like that. I love my mum to bits (unfortunately she passed away in 2007) but the thought of spending 3 months under the same roof as her would be enough to drive me potty! You have a very good relationship with your babyfather, why on earth would your baby be traumatised? My dh and his ex really don't get on at all, the kids aren't 'damaged' because they are both adult enough to be civil to each other and not bad mouth each other in front of the kids. It's also clear that they both love their kids very much, whatever their differences. Oh, and no nasty court battles either. Hope you manage to sort something out that suits YOU.

naat, sorry to hear you're having trouble with your mum too Is it going to be a case of biting your tongue for 2 weeks? Did I see right? You don't like chocolate, have you had tests for that Dh bought me a bar of galaxy cookie crumble, it was so lovely

Littlesarah, bet your tutor made you with those comments. I'm sure people get more out of uni if they go later rather than at 18 when it can turn into one big booze fest Dd1 is looking at unis now, i've had to remind her that they will actually expect her to be studying hard, that it's not all about prices at the student union bar!

choccie and insy, we haven't found out what we are having either, can't wait to see

I would love another homebirth but given my previous history, the doc has advised against it. I've had high blood pressure, a retained placenta, emergency cs due to failure to progress, pph, big babies,(not all in 1 pregnancy!) each on their own not a major problem but together I could well be pushing my luck. Dd3 has a genetic syndrome, which this baby is highly unlikely to have (almost nonexistent risk), but they want the baby checked over pdq after birth by the paeds.

What made me laugh today was the conversation I had with a midwife at the hospital. Don't get me wrong, she was lovely but she did make me . They are building a new mlu as part of the delivery unit and are also completely redoing the whole antenatal reception area into the bargain. So as you can imagine the antenatal area is a real mess and totally overcrowded and uncomfortable, she said, oh, it won't be ready for months yet, but it will be worth it in the end When am I having this baby, a fair way before all this work is finished, so the benefit for me is.......! No, I just get all the inconvenience and hard chairs

Can I have major brownie points please ladies? I remembered to ask for the grant form!!!!! All filled in now, just have to remember to post it

Unfortunately it didn't go so great with doc, baby is still measuring big for dates by about 5/6 weeks and I had sugar in my urine as well so although my gtt came back within normal limits i've got to see the gd midwife and have my blood monitored for a couple of weeks. I know it's much better to be safe than sorry and it's for the benefit of my baby who I really don't want to put at any more risk, but I was feeling so much more positive after I saw the consultant who thought i'd be ok with a trial labour. Now having a vbac seems to be getting further away again

It's just taken me ages to write this, dd3 is keen on row, row, row your boat this evening, not really compatible with typing

Meant to say, laura, don't know how it works where you are, but my doc got me to take the physio referal there myself and they booked me an appointment on the spot for 6 days later, it would have taken a couple of weeks if i'd left it to them. Obviously your lot could be an awful lot more efficient but it's worth asking!

Hey ladies how are you all? Before I catch up, a question, what monitors are you buying or have you bought? I have a BT 150 for DS which is good and has some great features but the parent unit is now on the blink and will only work with normal batteries which gets expensive night after night but I haven?t found anything I like better yet but I must as I also need a 2nd monitor for this baby, any thoughts?? I need one with a good range and little interference and preferably one that plays music.

It?s Father?s Day here in Spain today

Tee ? glad you got a good night?s sleep, do you feel better for it? I remember with DS lying awake at 2am feeling his kicks and thinking what a special time it was My DS is 13 months old, he?s a monkey but I adore him 5 May does seem late to start you?re AN classes! Well done at Dunnes we have one here but it is 3x the price I imagine!

Littlesarah ? hope you have a wonderful time; is it just you and DH? speaking from experience, watch out what expectations you let your father develop. Mine is now ?disappointed? in me because I have chosen to take a break in my career (after 10 years of working post uni) to have and look after my children. I am very angry about it as I feel it is emotional blackmail. In my opinion, you educate your kids so they have choices in life not so that you can only feel proud of them when they are a working professional you should be very proud of your tutor?s words

I am more than entitled to have a family and to raise it myself and just because I have an expensive education

Ermintrude ? glad you enjoyed lunch in the end here in Spain they won?t register diminutive forms of names or anything that they don?t consider to be a proper name.. we could be in for some fun!

June ? hope you did get your results, as you say; the track record at your health centre isn?t great. I?d recommend a week in Spain you?d be able to do more than at a Spa and you?d find that frustrating well, I would?.! (I second Ermintrude?s words on this!)

Insy ? how lovely having a great night?s sleep and breakfast at the nursery, how sweet I know exactly what you mean about the whole issue with having to take kids out of nursery when you are not working, it would have been the same for me and so I decided that I wouldn?t start DS at nursery until later ? he is still very little anyway. My DS?s nickname is ?Bear? my Mum jokes that he?ll think his name is ?Xavier Bear?! my DS has just had a growth spurt hence the shoes! I get those shudders too, I think it is the baby moving position and I have noticed that when she is in certain poses I feel more than others.

Naat ? the buggy is apparently fab brand new and very smart looking according to MIL what?s French drilling?? that?s a strong little kicker you have there re posting email addresses on forums, be careful, you may get a lot of spam or worse it has happened before hence the CAT facility. Sorry to hear about the parental invasion!

Choccie ? quiet like the sound of being snuggled up warmly in bed listening to fog horns our weather isn?t great at the mo actually, it has been but it is breaking, so much so that a birthday party that we are going to with DS at the weekend as been moved from Sunday to Saturday as torrential rain is forecast! Which part of Spain do your folks go to?

Oh Looouise, poor you stick to your guns with the dr and tell your Mum that she is not being helpful. I have to say that I think that you should stay in London at home, you?ll want to be in your own place listening to your own instincts, and personally I think going up north might be a mistake. You?ll also miss out on time with other new Mums like at post natal groups and baby massage etc and they are a life line in those early days. Stay put don?t listen to the emotional blackmail, this is not about anyone except you and the baby. I also have very controlling parents and trust me, from experience, if you don?t start doing what you want soon they will always think they can control you. I always put things like this in letters to them, that way they have to hear you out. Sending huge hugs xx

Hello Ineedmore

Laura ? glad you have got peace of mind re work and I hope you are taking it easy.

Bigcar ? sorry to hear that about your sugar levels have they out you on a special diet or are they just monitoring the blood for now? I hope it all settles down for you.

hello, thanks for your messages, mw not really concerned as like you said naat any movement is good! feel tired and weepy tho being in pain, god knows how you ladies with SPD cope, I can't manage a few cramps, dh has also commented (before I told him bout cramps) that bump is lower, certainly feel like more room between my boobs and bump so maybe thats what its all about... digging out chocolate as I type!

mrsmcj I'd love to be brave enough and just call dc Bear but I think if you know you have to be brave to give them name then its prob not a good name iykwim but it makes a cute nickname nursery for the boys was unavoidable as I had to go back to work just hoping they settle into being at home with me ok

choccie and bigcar think we might be in minority with not knowing... ooo I wish I did now

Hi ladies!

Thanks for the messages of support

ermin as usual, wise words . DH will find out how many weeks he's entitled to have, as we read in the gov page that the second week depends on the company you work, bla. Hope your board meeting was not too boring

bigcar yep, I was born not liking choc hahaha. Weird, I know And yes, at your MW's comments... Sorry you cannot have your HBirth, but well, as long as you and baby are ok, then Hope your sugar levels stabilise soon... And Yay on remembering the forms!!

MrsMc yay on the buggy! Congrats! French drilling was my way of expressing the fact I had to study loads today

Insy hope you're feeling better re. cramps.

Tee at getting organised! Hope you have a good night tonight as well

ineed hope FIL continues recovering well

Have sweet dreams, Juners (waves)

evening all just to let you know my address is
laura dot flynn at live dot com - just in case you were wondering

mrsmcjnr re monitors I have been looking at some monitors in mothercare but tbh I am getting confused as to which one is best to buy. Was looking at a Tommy Tippee one (i think ) but dont know what to do. my dear gran is addicted to shopping channels and they had a binatone one (twin handset) going for £25 dont know if its worth it tho.

june i hope you got the results for the gtt today to put your mind at ease. I get tested very regular for diabetes seen as my dad is diabetic can be a pain in the back side x

bigcar sorry to hear about your sugar levels, hopefully the docs/mw will keep a close eye on this. I am seeing mw tomorrow for 27 week check so will ask for the referral. tbh the pain is really easing up now considering how bad it has been

tee thanks for the tip about Dunnes (i used to love going into Dunnes when I stayed in Ireland) there is one in Glasgow hopefully I can get up there this weekend. And well done on being so organised with your drawers

looouise sorry to hear about your problem with your mum, just after the worries about babyfather were gone. I agree with others you do what you tink is best for you and your baby. And about that doc, how dare he say those things to you, esp asking if you were suicidal what a terrible thing to say, i know its easy for me to say but please ignore him he doesnt know what he's talking about

insy the breakfast you had this morning for mothers day sounds lovely hope you enjoyed it and i hope the crampy pains your having eases off soon x

choccie sorry to hear your spd flaring up today but congrats on your purchases, a wee bit of retail therapy always does the trick

I think I am "half-way" caught up with posts will try my best to get up to date with everyone else. A big Hello to everyone else, I know I keep forgetting a lot of people, I promise to respond to all soon x

insy I don't know what mine is either! DH was very adamant that he didn't want to know, so we didn't find out!

Of course then when I had a quick scan a few weeks ago he asked if I had noticed anything 'dangling'! So maybe he's regretting that decision?

Awww Tee how cool, do you open the cupboard just to have a look at them
We've shoved stored all our baby stuff in the guest room for now as putting it in the "nursery" involves moving furniture which we need there until my dad and bro come to visit late April. (Though some of it will probably have to move to our room so my dad can actually sleep in the guest room.)

Honestly I'm not looking forward to seeing my dad as much as I was at xmas, I can't remember whether I vented on here or not but since then he has done my head in to the point where I don't even want to call him anymore. I love my brother to bits and he could stay 2 weeks and i wouldn't mind him at all. They're only staying for the weekend though which should be manageable!

Louise I agree with what people have said here, I'd rather be at home wth my friends and brothers closeby than my parents.
They are the support network you will need after the birth.
And very good point about the fact that if you have antenatal classes they will help you meet people here, and after-birth coffee meetings and breastfeeding meetings (or whatever) will be much more useful for you with meeting local people than up north.
I think you might get frustrated.
It's not easy is it; and the scary thing is that we're going to be mothers too.

By the way do we qualify for sunday's mother's day yet? .

oh, didn't get my results today, will call someone (not sure who?) tomorrow.

just realised my post sounds really bad about my dad, it's not that bad, I will be happy to see him wheh he comes.
He's just not been calling or asking how my pregnancy is going, he has not been making plans to come and visit since they couldnt come for xmas and I was starting to get really p. off with asking when they were going to come over!
(dad was waiting to get a refund for the tickets before booking other tickets...not that he needed the money or anything, he just did it by principle or something but it was delayed so much that i was starting to think he didnt actually want to come or didn't care or something.
I think my words to him was "ok, fine well I'll send you some pictures of the baby when its born then".... I was really annoyed. That was just one of the things amongst others, Ive always had a difficult relationship with my dad, he is difficult.

Anyway, we do get on when we have to for short amounts of time

Morning all!

June yes, yes I do open to look! And because my measuring jugs are in there also.

I totally understand what you mean about your dad. My dad never rings me ever, I always ring him. I asked him if he was going to come see the baby? 'Maybe'. Oh okay. Thanks dad! I think we have the same dad!

And according to my DH, no we do not qualify yet for Mother's Day. But he's hoping the baby comes early so that he qualifies for Father's Day this year! I said 'well, you'd better plan on buying your own gift, then, because I think I'll be a bit busy!!'

June - my parents never ask me how I am, my dad just ignores the fact that I am pregnant unless he wants to make a snide remark, I don't really understand it as he adores DS. I think he thinks that I use being pg as an excuse to be a lady of leisure, as if - he should look after a toddler full time someday, it's far easier to sit at a desk!

Morning ladies!

I'm glad we're having such "venty" days It's better to let it all out instead of leaving it inside... As we can all see, most of us have one (or two) difficult parent(s)

June, you asked about mother's day... My DH used to say it didn't count, that was until he saw my face looking like the cat from Shrek and now he's "preparing a mothering Sunday" (after some nudges, of course, he is, after all, a man hahaha)

I have a tricky morning making enquiries about the baby's passport and visa and bla... I'll tell you later how it went.

question... It's been happening for some days now and I didn't dare ask you girls, but I need to ask you! Is anyone having "sexy" dreams? Today I woke up at 6am because of one It's never happened to me before, so I don't know if it's pg related (hormones) or it's just that something woke up inside

Sooooooo

Naat, you've never had a sexy dream! . In your whole life?! I regularly dream the most outrageous things, often featuring men I know in RL and don't fancy at all, and have been having them whilst pregnant just the same. Nothing to be about. Just wish that when I wake up I feel physically capable of jumping DH but rarely do .

While we're all talking about tricky relationships with parents, let's fix these things in our minds so that we can try to avoid them ourselves. It does show what a hard job parenthood is, but I think that the main negative theme for our mums is of using emotional blackmail/being controlling and for dads is being too unemotional. If we and our OHs are aware of this we can keep reminding ourselves not to fall into those traps. When I remind myself of my mother (almost said to DD - 'You know what your problem is? You only try just hard enough to do well but never do your best' - but stopped self just in time) I feel a chill down my spine.
We're not going to be perfect, but we can try to be nearly perfect

Out for another cinema trip and lunch with DH, and it's sunny, hurrah! Have lovely days ladies.

ermin haha, yes, I have had them before, but I have never ever woken up feeling like this!! They were "just dreams" but like any other... This has been different

And again, my lady, wise words re. parents

Have a lovely lunch and cinema trip

Wow, ermintrude two weeks in a row! He'll think you like him or something.

naat I have sexy dreams all the time, no more now than before I became pregnant. But it might be the hormones!

Naat I had a hot dream that I had sex with another WOMAN the other night...now that lends a whole new dimension to the proceedings.

And adds to my unwavering conviction, that I am indeed having a boy....

Loooouise! Phew!!

That happened to me as well the other night! That's what triggered my urgent need to ask you girls about this! I didn't dare tell DH about it

And I'm having a girl! hahahaha

HAhaha Naat, now not only do we have the same mothers, we have the same lesbian dreams!!

You should definitely tell your DH about your dream, esp if he's Brazilian! From my experience of Brazilian men (and in fact pretty much all men) they love girl on girl action

Right, sorry ladies. Clean chat from now on.

I am feeling very empowered today thanks to all your messages of support. This morning i contacted a local NCT group and guess what? There's a wee spot for me! So I CAN give birth down in London and be ready.
Going to phone my mum Monday to break the news (AFTER Mother's Day, obv...)
I may have to do it typing a live news feed to all you girls for moral support! There will be wailing and lots of high pitched "But how will we get down in time?" "How can you do this to us?" etc etc etc ...

Yay loooouise!! Soooo glad you're feeling empowered! I'm going to talk to my parents today so will be keeping you guys posted later on. Don't worry, we'll be giving you lots of moral support on Monday!

So far, the news is I cannot give my Arg nationality to our baby as I'm nationalised, not a native... So! We'll have to give her my DH's Brazilian nationality. The process of finding out eeeeeverything from the Braz embassy starts now What a mess!!

Oh Brazilian baby, how exciting! I used to live in Rio and plan to visit next Jan when baby's six months (££££ pending of course).

Last time I was at the Braz embassy the diplomat asked me on a date, hahahaaha.

Have you thought of any Brazilian names?

looouise, you made me laugh! He asked you on a date! hahaha

How long did you live in Brazil? Oh! Going in Jan will be so much fun!!! Sun, heat and beaches!!!

We actually never thought of a Brazilian name, we were just fixated in trying to find something that worked in Sp and Eng we never even thought about something Brazilian I'll tell DH.

Louise I'm doing the local nct classes and I've found them really helpful. The group is fairly small and people are starting to get closer/know eachother better. It's a very good atmosphere and I'm hoping we'll see eachother after birth too.

My best friend is travelling in south america and she was in Brazil when the carnival was on a couple of weeks ago, very and still waiting on the pics (they're travelling for 3 months).
I bet you guys who lived out there can get brilliant tans :D (There's me hoping lo gets dh's olive skin complexion!)

After my post about my dad yesterday he called this morning to see how I am Awww, so I'm kinda looking forward to seeing him again now. (I am so fickle! ;)

I called the hospital for my GTT results and the levels are normal I'm very happy about that.

We had a session about pain management in labour and ceasarian births yesterday which were a bit of an eye opener. I think dh is more worried than me! I think I'll be able to cope with G&A and a tens machine. Dh hasn't said that I am deluded but he is worried that I might be... and that the pain may come as a shock.

For the non first-timers on this thread, what kind of pain management did you use??

Hi June.

I used the tens machine for DS1 which was ok. Served more as a distraction for me tbh. I had a very long labour (well I wasn't dilating for 8 hours but was in pain) so I then opted for a pethidine injection in the buttock. It was painless and took the edge of the contractions. As they don't move you to a delivery suite here until you are officially dilating and hence in established labour there is no g & a available so I struggled on. Didn't opt for top up of pethidine, have heard it can make you feel sick. I was fine though. Evetually I was so knackered that I had an epidural which I have to honestly say was; heaven . I then sat up, read magazines, dh went off for something to eat etc etc. Baby appeared 6 hours after epidural.
DS2 - Didn't bother with Tens. Was admitted. told not dilating and to walk for 30 minutes in the corridoor. Walked for 10 and asked to be examined. 4 cms so straight into delivery suite and dh ordered epidural for me as I wasn't thinking straight.So please he did as I was having back to back contractions and have very low pain threshold. Baby born 30 mins after epidural.(bet you wish you hadn't asked now).
This time around-keeping open mind, going to try g & a and see how I go.

Choccie, thanks for sharing your experience.
The birth centre doesn't offer epidurals so that's not an option unless I get transferred to the hospital, they do offer pethidine though iirc, which I have read about.