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July 2009 Part III

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Mij · 20/02/2009 15:04

Hope no-one minds me kicking this one off - 39 pages seemed a bit unmanageable!

Had 20 week scan today. Tiddler unco-operative to start with (although not as bad as DD was - took 3 goes to see everything) and it looks like most of the bits are in the right places. Decided right at the very last minute not to find out the sex. Realised that, if DD thinks she's going to have a sister, that nothing, not even photographic evidence, will change her mind anyway. So stuck with the 'don't ask don't tell' as per first time around and will just have to wait to sort out all the sodding clothes 'til we know what we've got.

Although... What do gonads look like on a scan?! Got a very good look at the hips from underneath, so to speak, and thought I saw two little bright spots, but that could be the sitting bones of course. Anyone tell me what the crown jewels look like on a scan?!

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JetLi · 06/03/2009 21:25

Hey there Belgrano - the scan results sound good then - and if the fetal heart thing is just a precaution and is as quick as next week than that must be good - if I had to wait 4 - 6 weeks I'd go out of my mind. You're not being silly at all and I'm sorry about your Dad - that must be really tough. I hope you have a lovely, relaxing weekend away - loads of fresh air and good sleeps!!
As an aside, I'm anticipating a scorching hot May & June when we're all HUGE and uncomfortable and grumpy. Then it'll all go to s**t when July hits and the bubs come

plot2 · 06/03/2009 21:27

Belgrano good news about the scan being ok and nothing abnormal found.
Where are you going for your heart scan? I'm going for my second heart echo on Tuesday at St Thomas's in London. They are lovely there so please try not to worry - easier said than done I know.
You really are not silly at all for feeling the way you do, I completely sympathise, my last pregnancy was a breeze and I had no worries at all. I had two scans the total pregnancy now I'm having two a month with this one! It's hard not to worry but I have made a conscious effort to try and relax and not worry until there really is something to worry about.
I do have a ridiculous thought relating to names though as the only one dh and I can agree on which I love was the name of a retarded character in a film and I think will we be tempting fate if we choose it given the uncertain outcome we face.
Also i seem to be coming across lots of newspaper articles regarding mentally retarded children, possibly due to the tragic case of the Camerons losing their son, but think is someone trying to prepare me for the worst?!
So no you are not alone but try and think of the exciting things. I just went to the kari-me website due to Mij's superb sales pitch and it looks fab and the pictures so cute I feel very excited at the thought of this beautiful boy inside being snuggled up in one.
I'm wittering on, have a lovely weekend with your friends.

Belgrano · 06/03/2009 21:36

How come two echos, Plot2? Thanks for your supportive-ness (def not a proper word!).

plot2 · 06/03/2009 21:52

Hi Belgrano
The baby has a missing ductus venosus so the umbilical vein does not connect up to the baby in the normal way. It is a rare anomoly and we have a variant the consultants have not seen before. All other tests are normal and at the moment development does not seem to be affected. One possible side effect of many though is a heart problem so that is why we are having a monthly heart scan at St Thomas's and a monthly overall development scan at the local hosp.
We are keeping positive that all will continue to be normal despite the anomoly and its not improbable that we will end up with a perfectly healthy little boy. The little mite just wants to keep us on our toes!

Gillyan · 07/03/2009 09:32

belgrano Try not to worry, hopefully everything will be fine for you and little one, makes you wonder if these anomoly tests canhave you worrying uneccesarily. at least u not got too long to wait.

plot2 scary stuff for you too, good your keeping positive, hope everythings ok

I'm feeling okay today! I reckon I will actually make it back in work on Monday. Doing the rounds today, sister in law and then parent in laws. Not seen any of them for ages as just been holed up on my sofa being ill and VERY unsociable.

Still not bought any baby items yet but I'm getting the need. in lawsare very kindly buying our pram for us and said we have a budget of £400! Can't believe it. I had a second hand one first time round so going to be lovely choosing my own.

Anyone having a baby Shower? Again never had one last time but my friend wants to do one for me. I just feel a bit bad as don't want people to think they have to buy stuff and on the flipside I don't want to end up with stuff I wouldn't off chosen for myself. Most off my friends are going to be away and another heavily pregnant so not even sure if many people will come. i don't like being the centre of attention really.

Mij · 07/03/2009 15:38

Good news on all the scans, and those with extra stuff to keep an eye on, it looks like you're all getting good care. Keeping everything crossed for all of you and your babes.

slings Blimey, I should start charging kari-me commission!

For newborns - obviously this is my highly subjective view, but I tend to recommend a stretchy wrap (kari-me, moby, hugabub are the brands I know best) because a) you can leave them on all day and pop babe in and out (you can do that with woven wraps too but it requires a bit more practice at getting the tension just right), and they're a little more forgiving of the novice, while you're learning how best to tie it i.e. how tight, which type of carry you and your babe prefers, etc etc.

The Calin Bleu is a non-stretchy wrap. All wraps look much the same in photos, as the way of tying them is interchangeable. I did have one but didn't get on with it - others do of course! I only got into woven wraps when I got a second-hand didymos (considered the rolls royce of wraps [rolls eyes at own spoddiness]) because it was just sooooo supportive.

ilikeyoursleeves the lying flat thing is an interesting one. My DD hated being in the cradle position in any sling, so I always carried her in the 'splatted frog' position ( not an official term ) upright on my chest. I believe that the position a baby would lie in a sling, if it was in the cradle position, is a gentle curve that is almost identical to that if they were in your arms, and keeps their airways free in the way that, say, a non-flat buggy or carseat might not. But that does depend on the parent/carer getting the position right and keeping a close check on the baby (easy when they're swinging around your rib cage!). I know some of the 'bag slings' have come in for some criticism recently because the position isn't great for good breathing, but as far as I know, wraps and pouches are fine.

I'll have a scout around my babywearing sources for any references that might help.

gillyan I have to admit I didn't really bother getting DD to settle anywhere else than on me or in the sling for the first 3 to 4 months or so. She fed to sleep when I was sitting down and dropped off when I was walking around so that covered most bases for me at the time. I may well feel differently this time, with an older child, I'll have to see. But the way we helped her settle in other places or in other ways was just to keep experimenting. One week it would be all hysterics and trauma (at which point I'd revert to the tried and tested to give us all a break) and then, all of a sudden, one day she just dropped off in the pram. And then another day in the car seat. And then we had a range of choices, and I carried on feeding and carrying to sleep when it suited me, until they stopped working! But again, it's horses for courses - I never particularly needed her to nap in bed at a certain time so I didn't bother trying to establish that. Others will need that for all sorts of reasons. Lots of my mates did, and it worked for them. When I got fed up of things or was especially tired, I'd have to remind myself that 'this too shall pass', and that babies change so quickly when they're wee that nothing is fixed, or undoable/unlearnable. Some changes take more work than others, though! And some they just do themselves. Not sure if that's any help...

cribs I can't find the exactly one we have but it's almost identical to this one in all except it doesn't attach to our bed. We just locked the wheels last time and it was fine.

equipment I'd really recommend getting loaners/second hand stuff cos you never know what your babe will go for. DD loathed any kind of bouncy chair, bumbo and high chairs with trays, and I was really grateful I had been able to try stuff out before I'd spent cash on them. I know my mates with 2 or 3 kids say their baby swings would buy them precious minutes with the older ones at difficult times (bath and bedtime for example) and a playmat with a mobile on it was the only thing that occupied DD for long enough to wash my hair, once DD was over 3 months or so. Before then I had to wait for a time DP could take her for 20 minutes. I had very, very greasy hair more than once in those early weeks .

Blimey, sorry everyone, another really long post.

I'm not feeling much kicking either, but also have an anterior placenta. SPD a bit up and down too. Sitting down for long periods of time (which I want to do) seems to make it worse (which I don't want it to do!). Arse.

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ilikeyoursleeves · 07/03/2009 19:33

Wow Mij, thanks for your brilliant post, I am considering a sling but TBH haven't thought about it too much yet as it just seems such a vast and confusing market, it's good we have a sling consultant on the board! (LOL hope you don't mind )

I only just started feeling baby move this week, I was getting a bit worried so got the doppler out but the babba must have known I was worried cos he's been moving loads since! DS and I were at his Jo Jingles class yesterday and babba was jumping about joining in with the music LOL.

I'm knackered after today, spent the day indoors due to rubbish weather but did loads of housework. Now sitting eating a huge bag of smarties YUMMY

Hope everyone is doing well, congrats to you all on good scan news too!

EarthMotherWannabe · 07/03/2009 20:59

Hi all,

I'm due 31st July with my first baby - aaargh! Suffering terribly with what is being called round ligament syndrome (can't walk far, can't drive, can't sit or stand for long, can't even swim!) but otherwise am feeling quite good. Am I alone in feeling constantly paranoid that something's going to go wrong? CANNOT wait for my next scan in a few weeks!

Gillyan · 07/03/2009 21:08

Welcome earthmother Hopefully you'll feel better after your scan

mij thanks for that info thats great! Think I'll get a cheapo second hand one and just have a go and like you say babies change so quickly so we'll see what happens.

Feel weird tonight, keep feeling tightenings across top of bump and being breathless. I was adamant I wanted a curry, popadoms, naan bread for tea and spent half an hour convincing DP to have one too, he dutifully went out and got one then I ate not even a quarter of it and threw it all away. Then over the space of three adverts I saw Choc Chip Muffins, Trifle and Mint Matchmakers and got so upset cos I really wanted all of them, DP then went to sainsbury's for me and got me all of them! I am sooooo lucky to have such an understanding partner. Ate my muffing and feel sick now but I'd better not say anything.

Off tp catch up with Lost now

EarthMotherWannabe · 07/03/2009 21:19

If it makes you feel better Gillyan, my DH spent the first 13 weeks doing what he fondly referred to as 'daily shopping'!

Phoenix · 07/03/2009 21:28

Your dh is so lovely Gillyan, my dh would tell be to bog off and go myself or do without. He's doing my bloody head in tonight (well most nights actually) he's just sat, no layed on the sofa playing poker on Facebook and just muttering one word replies if i ask him anything

Welcome and congrats earthmother

EarthMotherWannabe · 07/03/2009 21:33

Thanks phoenix. Let's hope I live up to my name!!

Phoenix · 07/03/2009 21:39

Updated list

25th June - Christiana - DD 3yrs - Surprise
28th June - Woollyjo - DD 2yrs, 2mcs - Having a girl
29th June - Welshlinz - DD 6yrs
29th June - JLo2 - DS 11yrs, DS 7yrs, DS 6yrs
29th June - Highrise - first baby
early July - lyca - 3Dcs
1st July - Rattling - first two babies - Surprise - TWINS
1st July - binkerbeany - DS 2yrs
1st July - Mrsmope - DD 4yrs, mmcs - TWINS
2nd July - Nicky6 - DD 11mth
2nd July - pop1973
4th July - Mum2boys2girls - DS 14yrs, DS 12yrs, DD 7yrs, DD 21months
4th July - ActivityApple - first baby - Having a boy
5th July - soozze - DS 3yrs
6th July - xxhunnyxx - first baby - Having a boy
6th July - Wiltedrose - DD 2.6yrs - Having a girl
7th July - MuppetGirl - DS1 4.8yr, mc and DS2 1yr
7th July - Misspaella - DS 3yrs, DD 17mths - Surprise
7th July - QueenFee - DD 4.4yrs, DS 2.3yrs - Surprise
7th July - thelollipoplady - DD1 6yrs, DD2 3yrs - Having a boy
7th July - Eviebear
8th July - JetLi - first baby
8th July - deleting - DS 5.5yrs, DD 2yrs - Surprise
8th July - rubyriley - DS 21yrs, DS 12yrs - Having a boy
9th July - LargeGlassofRed - Ds 11yrs, Dd1 8yrs, Dd2 5yrs - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - Betsyboo - DS 10yrs, DD 8yrs
9th July - London11 - DS 8yrs - Having 2 boys - TWINS
9th July - bellybaba
9th July - Gillyan - DD 3yrs - Having a girl
9th July - Hobbgoblin - 1DD, 2DS', 2mc
10th July ? Baffy ? DS age 3yrs
10th July - Mij - DD 2.4yrs - Surprise
10th July - Newb - first baby - Having a girl
10th July - SafferUpNorth - first baby
10th July - eveningall - DS 3.9yrs
11th July - Marsmonster - DD 10mths
12th July - Jenny79 - first baby - Having a boy
13th July - Scully - DD1 6yrs, DD2 2yrs, 2 m/c.
14th July - doublehelp - 2 DCs
14th July - Naturopath - ds 16mths
14th July - Dannyg - 2 Ds? - Having a girl
14th July - LittleDoe - first baby
15th July - Accebar - Having a girl
15th July - Lydiathetattooedlady
16th July - BeccaBump - DD 2yrs - Having a boy
16th July - Knax - DS 2 yrs, m/c
16th July - NattyTomAndEllen - DD 18mths, DS 30mths
16th July - SheWillBeLoved - first baby, mmc
16th July - plot2 - DD 2yrs - Having a boy
17th July - Patchybob - DS 7yrs, DD 5yrs, m/c - Surprise
17th July - Phoenix - DS 3yrs - Having a boy
17th July - alibobble - DD 2yrs - Surprise
17th July - Bozette - DS 14mths - Having a girl
18th July - maxmissie
19th July - Dinkyboysmum - DS 16mths
19th July - busyemma - DS1 6yrs, DS2 2yrs
20th July - LBK - first baby
20th July - Belgrano - DD 2mths - Having a boy
22nd July - ray81 - 2m/c
23rd July - Andie01 - DS 2yrs
24th July - Madoldbird - DC 11yrs & 12yrs - TWINS
24th July - Lastboxoftampons - first baby
24th July - Moominmoma - first baby
24th July - Lyrebird - first baby
24th July - ilikeyoursleeves - DS 14mths
25th July - PrincessButtercup - DS 5yrs, DD 3yrs, m/c - Having a boy
25th July - BonzoDoodah - DD 16mths
25th July - Mickeylou - DS 3yrs
27th July - KitCat26 - first baby
28th July - mylilmiracle - first baby
28th July - Cheekycel
29th July - Brainmish - Ds 1yr
29th July - Poppet45 - first baby
30th July - Mavornia - DS 20mths
31st July - madeinamerica - first baby - Having a girl
31st July - littlepipbumpmummy - DS 20mths
31st July - EarthMotherWannabe - first baby

Oooh dh just brought me some Arctic Roll in

mickeylou · 08/03/2009 10:15

Phoenix - Arctic Roll! thats a bit of a blast from the past!

popped to my m-in-laws yesterday whose been washing and sorting all the baby gear ive been digging out. completely overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff we had for DS. the 0-3 months things are immaculate. he was such a big baby he was hardly in them. i dont think i can justify buying anything at all! got all the blue things to one side as i figure if its a girl they will still do for bedtime.

still arguing with DH about whether to find out sex on tuesday. we didnt find out last time because he didnt want to and he says the same this time around. i really want to know - and think i will probably burst into tears after scan if i come out not knowing!

mickeylou · 08/03/2009 10:15

Phoenix - Arctic Roll! thats a bit of a blast from the past!

popped to my m-in-laws yesterday whose been washing and sorting all the baby gear ive been digging out. completely overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff we had for DS. the 0-3 months things are immaculate. he was such a big baby he was hardly in them. i dont think i can justify buying anything at all! got all the blue things to one side as i figure if its a girl they will still do for bedtime.

still arguing with DH about whether to find out sex on tuesday. we didnt find out last time because he didnt want to and he says the same this time around. i really want to know - and think i will probably burst into tears after scan if i come out not knowing!

mickeylou · 08/03/2009 10:17

belgrano - so pleased scan was positive for you. realise you must still be concerned but it does sounds as though they are just covering all bases.xxx

mickeylou · 08/03/2009 10:18

sorry for double post there. not sure what happened! x

Patchybob · 08/03/2009 16:13

Aargh...are any of you having problems sleeping?
I seem to wake up at about 3am and not get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Its turning into a nightmare as I am not very good at functioning on little sleep (its ok once you have had the baby as you have an excuse!) Last night it was 3.15am till just before 6am and the dc were up at 6.45am (they were very good and played together for while as they knew I hadn't slept and dh is away).
Have been ok all day but am starting to flag now.....would love a sleep!!!
Going to H and M tomorrow to buy some maternity clothes as am having a sense of humour failure every morning at the moment as I have no clothes!!!
Enjoy the rest of the weekend everyone...sorry for the moan!!

Cheekycel · 08/03/2009 20:02

Patchybob I have the same problem! 3am till just before 6, so frustrating! i've started making use of the time with reading or giving my feet some much needed TLC or watching Greys Anatomy hehe.

JetLi · 08/03/2009 20:15

Same here - seems to be between 2am and 4am that I wake up - and immediately I'm WIDE awake. It feels too cold to get out of bed and potter around, so I just read, and drift back off about 5 or 6am. But it means I'm on my knees by lunchtime .
Really wish it would stop...

QueenFee · 08/03/2009 21:40

Yes - sleep is alluding me too however tired I am! To make it worse DS gets up at 5.30 so I never get chance to go back to sleep!

Have started stocking up on bits and bobs to go in labour /hospital bag now. Mainly because ASDA had some special offers on (2 packs for £3 i think it was on disposable knickers and breastpads)

Can't believe I am almost 23 weeks! For me this pregnancy is going scarily quickly. I blink and another few weeks has passed.

I have SN meeting at school for DD in the morning which I am dreading so please cross your fingers for me.

Patchybob · 09/03/2009 07:22

QueenFee I hope today goes well for you.

Re the sleep issue getting better, isn't it just going to get worse?! I had probelems sleeping last times but I think only later on. Last night I ended up in the spare room (not so much spare room as dumping ground and soon to be babys room)as dh was snoring and I was getting cross! Anyway then I woke up early, before every one else for the first time ever! Think they were all amazed! Would rather that though than my middle of the night lark!

Have a great day everyone, will let you know how my shopping goes! xx

mickeylou · 09/03/2009 09:01

i woke up a few times last night feeling ropey and was out of bed throwing up at half 6. is anyone else still being sick? i know i shouldnt complain because it was much worse with DS but everyone i speak to in rl is "oh no i havent been sick once!"

scan tomorrow - still cant agree whether to find out sex.

Misspaella · 09/03/2009 10:14

Morning
Belgrano hope it all goes well tomorrow and you are not too stressed today. It is great that you are being seen so quickly. This would have really been playing on your mind if you had to wait longer.

Mickeylou I am still get properly sick too but only about twice a week (which after weeks of 7+ times a day it seems rather inconsequetional); nauseous most days around the same time too (3:30pm for some odd reason). My gf is 13 weeks pg w/her 2nd and was never sick with either of her pg .

Queenfee good luck with the school meeting.

Hope everyone had a nice weekend. I enjoyed being a mom and did lots of domestic stuff with the DC's

I am temping again today and tomorrow which is great as DH is still no closer to finding any work - even freelance stuff. As he does commercial design work and no is building going on, it is looking bleak.

I just keep reminding myself that one good thing is coming out of 2009 - sometime in July.

deleting · 09/03/2009 10:25

Hello all, have missed so much, will have to set aside a few hours to read through what I've missed. It would be nice to say I've not been around because I've been doing much more interesting things - but no. Everything okay really, nothing much to report, apart from a toxoplasmosis scare. Had bloods checked for viruses and it reacted to toxo, midwife didn't have clue, so I googled. Bad idea, anyway 3 days later, when I ran to the hospital to see the consultant, was told it was an old infection that had reacted and no evidence I have it now. So can eat as much rare steak as I like now, though will still not be going anywhere near the cat, but that's another story. Lots of movement now, having a follow up heart scan with cardiologist on 20th and apart from that have been overseeing decoration of new 'nursery'. will just about fit a baby in and that's about it. Tried dd in a big girl bed a couple of nights ago to free up the cot, but it was chaos. Still, there's a long time yet. Hope you're all bearing up. Will have a proper read through later.
Belgrano - glad to hear your scan was good. Have you had a cardiologist look at heart or a general sonographer? If not, perhaps you could ask to be referred and that would put your mind at rest. We saw a cardiologist and they found nothing, but still have a follow up scan booked. I think it's normal for them to just keep their eye on it.