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Due April 2009: Episode 9 - April Mums with Guns: Rise of the Fanjo Warriors?

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BabyBolat · 27/01/2009 22:06

Here we go again....

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BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 10:57

Auld, that is a really excellent clip. Especially the voting bit.

I do more work than that on the average sick leave day at home!

Hey, a thought. She looks so polished and chic compared to our politicians. Do French women spend a lot more time of this stuff than we Brits do? And did your grooming change in pattern/increase when you moved over there? (How long have you been there?)

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AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 13:13

I think they do accord more importance to grooming and looks than British women, yes, on the whole. Women politicians are generally sleeker here, though I think Dati pays particular attention to clothes and appearance.

As for me, it's hard to say; I left the UK at 21, just after graduating, and moved to a French island in the Indian Ocean, where the heat makes chicness more tricky. The shift from student status to a working one meant that I necessarily changed style a bit, and the climate caused me to be more careful about hair removal, etc. than in Scotland!

14 years down the line, I've been in mainland France for 3 and a half years and I'm not particularly groomed, I don't think. It's partly due to having wild curly hair, which never looks sleek or chic. I also work in an environment where people dress fairly casually (but probably better than many female academics in the UK, though I couldn't be sure). I do notice when I go back to the UK that British women, when they are not dressed more casually than French ones (comfy fleeces, tracksuit bottoms, etc.) have more of a tendency to wear what's in fashion or to go for a style they like, irrespective of whether flatters, suits or even fits them, whereas many French women tend to choose things more carefully. And while things are changing fast, there are fewer overweight women in France, so clothes often hang a bit better on them. I have started wearing minimal make up, which I didn't do before, but that's more to do with age than location, I think.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 13:56

Interesting, Auld. I think I'm lucky to work on a context where you get credibility according to the number of facial moles replete with their own hairs you have. Although sometimes I look at my colleagues with their 1980s apron skirts in ethnic prints and their Scholl sandals and their pudding basin haircuts and think WTF??

AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 14:03

Ah, now you see, that was just the image I had in mind when I wrote that I thought French academics dressed better than British ones but couldn't be sure!

I don't think we are really judged on our appearance at work (other than by our students, no doubt!). But most of my female colleagues tend to wear more formal clothe at work than outside, from what I can tell. I do too, actually: it helps me to gear up for work, somehow. I occasionally wear jeans, but tend to avoid them, to distinguish a bit between days when I work from home and days when I am in front of students. I have a campus wardrobe and a home one.

AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 14:05

clothes...

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 14:36

Me too - also people still think I am an UG if I go in wearing jeans and start questioning me in the staff canteen (although admittedly that happens a bit less often these days).

The bad taste record has to go to my knock kneed colleague who goes in wearing bright red clog birkenstocks with her ethnic skirt. This is not a Good Look.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 14:42

These for your feet

Plus

Lovely skirt

Plus

Attractive facial features

AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 14:44

OMG!!
OK, forget the restrained tone of my initial answer.
French women are far, far more groomed and chic than British women.
You would be taken off for counselling/arrested for breach of the peace here if you dressed like that.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 14:45

Well quite right I say. The only thing we can say in our defence is that we dress better than German women.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 14:52

They are probably not German but their dress sense must pay homage

If I ever start looking like that please shoot me!

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 15:07

Or is this a picture of the Mums With Guns April 2039 reunion????

AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 15:11

God, I hope not. I sincerely trust someone will take me aside and have a kind word with me if I look like that in 30 years' time.

Schulte · 01/02/2009 15:19

Hmmmmmm... I'd say there are well dressed and badly dressed women in every country - they just have different ways of dressing badly. I onced shared a room with an Italian girl who had absolutely no style sense and wore the same turquoise tracksuit for four weeks without ever washing it [hmmmm]

Ooops, have just sent DH and DD outside to play in the garden and then looked up from the computer to find it's snowing! Bet they will be back in a minute...

Schulte · 01/02/2009 15:21

Here they are... that will be the end of my quiet five minutes on MN...

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 16:28

AAAAAAGH!

AIBU to object to 21-year-old DD rattling the handle of our LOCKED bedroom door to demand computer support when we have disappeared upstairs for a post-prandial Sunday afternoon shag and a bit of a kip???

I so do not do this to her when she has boyfriends over!!!!! I do not care if she cooked lunch or not, I still think you do not rattle parental door handles on a Sunday afternoon!!!!

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 16:33

Hehehhehehe!!

DD came in to get family laptop, now I have fixed it, so she can do her essay, and she asked 'What are you up to then?'.

I replied, 'Well I was was having a bit of a shag and a kip until you started rattling the door handle!'

She was shocked and horrified and said 'Mum!' and disappeared off sharpish. There is nothing more atrocious than the thought of your parents shagging.

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AuldAlliance · 01/02/2009 17:27

Boffin, I take my hat off to you, I really do. How do you find the energy for shagging???

Or maybe it's just me; I fall into the sad category of women for whom pregnancy is synonymous with zero libido and major loss of feeling in the key zones. We are hoping it will return at some point.

I do appreciate that sweeping generalisations were being made about style in various countries; there are badly dressed women everywhere and well-dressed ones too. I was noting a general tendency, rather than dismissing all British women as ill-dressed and unchic. There is a definite dress identity thing, though: I can recognise British students or tourists from the way they dress, though I couldn't define what it is about them.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 19:00

I do like shagging in all circumstances, although it has to be said it is a bit less fun when you have to more or less lie still and have things done to you so your hips don't pop out. I am lucky my DH is so forebearing.

SpringySunshine · 01/02/2009 19:13

Boffin, £7500 isn't much for such a let down - especially for the women who wouldn't have had legal insurance. & I feel particularly sorry for the woman with triplets - surprise pregnancies are enough to deal with as it is!

Thanks for the homeopathy link I think I shall be placing some more internet orders.

Haha, your DD hassling you through the locked bedroom door - is she insane? I'd steer well clear of my parents' door if it was even closed! Especially in the afternoon! It's bad enough coming home to see the curtains are closed - why would you go closer?!

BB, so pleased to hear that you're a McDreamy fan Oh, he's just wonderful. As you say, I wouldn't kick McSteamy out of bed but there's just not even a slight contest. DP's a bit in love with McSteamy though, & refuses to hear anything bad said about him. I think he's number one on his 'if you were gay...' list. Not that he has a list (that I'm aware of), but you know what I mean

I wasn't sick in the end, luckily, & managed to dash out to catch my train for an impromptu visit to Lichfield for my granddad's birthday. DP had loads of uni work to do & my granddad's had heart surgery this year, etc., so I thought I should take the opportunity. As morbid as that is.

mathsmummy27 · 01/02/2009 19:17

Looks like a false alarm my lovelies. We have a major blizzard here so fingers corssed no work tomorrow...

In my line of work you are positively expected to look unkempt and a little eccentric..not quite the hairy moles but comething like it. Compared to my sisters who work in fashion I look like the proverbial dragged through a hedge backwards but it is telling that I am a bit of a poster girl for maths (!)

How is everyone doing this evening?

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 19:30

I am still teasing her - she asked me what I was talking about on MN and I said airily "Oh, shagging and stuff". She did not look impressed.

This is good sport indeed.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 19:36

I tell you Springy, £7500 is a total disaster if you are living in London as a single parent in a tiny flat and you have only known the father a few months and you aren't even living together. I don't think we have ever quite recovered financially because it forced our hand on all sorts of career, finance and property things in a chain reaction kind of way.

BoffinMum · 01/02/2009 19:36

Glad it was a false alarm Mathsmummy.

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