Fab Feb 2009: No really, THIS thread we'll birth more than 1 baby, we promise.

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Mrsy re home birth, well one midwife said 37 and another said no its 38. She put 1st Feb for date they are on call but said to ring and ask if its 37 + ????? not really sure whats it all about, I always thought 37 weeks was full term anyway.

Dinkystinky going to definately kick ass on Saturday! just wish i didnt have to go in to face them all wonder if i could do it from my bed via video link?

on all the sex, my hubby won't entertain the idea. He keeps saying its because he is tired but couple of months ago he said it didn't feel right. I have to try to understand but I actually feel very sad about it, still rejection even if there is a reason

RE breastfeeding 8 babies would her body actually produce enough milk to feed 8? and wouldnt that mean she wold just be feeding all day every day, my god!

NESTING!!! big time, having a total cleaning spree ermm its completely out of charactor!

Very gald to see that everyone whose been having lots of worries & aches & pains & scares seems to be ok for no. MOS I'm really struggling to climb out of the bath now where we are using the shower over the bath in the main bathroom while the enuiste is being done - every morning I worry that I will slip getting out, strangely the pain in my pubic bone is lots worse on the right side than the left and I;m also now occassionally finding that the front of my left thigh has gone numb, obvioulsy where the baby is lying on a nerve - it was constant with DS, so that a bit freaky strange. I find the pain is far worse when I've been sat down for a while as long as I keep moving it hurts but its constant rather than sudden & sharp.

mamagoose - I had a sweep with DS and things kicked off about 24 hrs later, very uncomfortable though, like a smear, but worse. A friend's MW suggested that her DH did the honours

LBB - I do DH's hair in the (empty) bath with the clippers or in the garden in the summer. Did do DS's too the first few times, but now he has developed an aversion to the clippers and so he has to go to the barbers, we go to a proper mens barber and it only costs a fiver. but even through that he sits on my lap screaming.

Decided to get DS a "bucket full of dinosaurs" from No2 as "'arry" is his favourite thing at the moment. But I keep thinking about all sorts of things i'll just pop to woolies for that and then realise I can't

mamagoose.... comino

spice rack in the supermarket, if they have the seeds great but if only the powder that does fine too.

Mrsy no I have been engaged for 3 years now....

I am taking Raspberry leaves and going to try cumin tea as well....I am going to give evening primrose oil a go now I am 36 weeks but you have to place it as close to the cervix as poss and I dont know if I can do that so will probably just take it orally and hope it still works....

lardybump What is Primrose oil supposed to do?

This is the info i found, I have copied and pasted it...

Evening Primrose

This is one of the most well-known ways to encourage labour, but not actually induce it.

Evening primrose oil is an excellent source of prostaglandins, which prepare your cervix for labour. It can be taken orally as soon as 34 weeks, and can be applied directly to the cervix at 36 weeks. The general recommendation is two 500mg capsules per day until week 38, at which time you increase to 3-4 per day. Applying directly to the cervix is optimal, but the beneficial ingredients are absorbed through the external skin of the stomach as well.

I've been cleaning again.

Just mopped all the floors downstairs and sat by the bucket inhaling the steam and lemony fresh-ness.

I'm not sure about presents from the baby for our two girls when DH brings them up. I think at 6 and 7 they might think it's a bit naff, or should I?

Well the primrose oil is worth a try - Il be taking a stop at holland & barrat tomorrow

Am on my 3rd cup of Raspberry tea for the day - I find if I leave it go luke warm, I can down it in one to avoid the taste! Although im actually getting used to the taste now.

MS - DS1 age 12 is very keen to know what the baby is buying him !!

Just got back from the midwife (40 + 5 today) . He is very happy with how things are and is supportive of letting nature take it's course. He is coming to see me on Saturday morning at home - if not before ! Have been having twinges on and off for the last 24 hours, but nothing significant.

I'm sure we will have more babies on this thread before the weekend. Good luck to all those seeing consultants and getting their babiess spinning.

Heelllllllooooooo! Cant read much as DS is just waking from his nap but hope eberyone is ok and babies/bumps behaving themselves

Have been to the consultant today and be-gads they are a cheery lot - not! Always soooo pesimistic!! our conversation basically started off with

"Ah Mrs Shoes, let me cut to the chase.....VBAC means you could rupture your scar and you or/and you baby could die, you obviously dont want that so you will either VBAC strapped to a bed for continous monitoring or choose an ELCS now. So what's your choice????"

"I'll take a VBAC with your blue-tooth monitor so I can have an active labour and use water if I want thanks"

The rest of the meeting was a lot more positive after that. Baby is head down, back to the front left so all good to go. I have booked an ELCS for 5th March at 41+2 so will be cracking on with the old wives tales as of Tuesday (37wks). DH may even get his first bit since the BFP . Any tips appreciated!

No news on FB yet from IDBI...

Hope all ok with IDBI. If she had her section on Monday, she'll be out today or tomorrow wont she (assuming all ok)?

KT, Lardy - had heard that about the evening primrose oil too though slightly confused as to how you apply it directly to the cervix (can barely reach down there to trim pantbeard as it is!)

Markstretch - you are nesting like no body's business. I think presents for older siblings are nice, regardless of their age. One thing I got told by someone who has older kids and had a baby was that the best way to introduce them to baby was to say to the baby "I'm going to introduce you to someone who is really important in your life this is...." which apparently helps with the whole sibling bonding thing when there is a bigger gap.

Do you all know that advert where the mum has put a bowl over everyone's head to cut family's hair? That's what ds looks like
Never doing it again!! Can't wait for dp to get home, think he may have to go to skin! But just remembered ds has 'flat head syndrome' which he hasn't grown out of as yet...... Oh, I am the worst mummy ever!! At least he likes me again now he's had a nap. He wants me to watch Postman Pat with him but must wash up!

So, am in the middle of a 'debate' with my DH about the birth - at the last scan my LO had the cord around his neck and my doctor now refuses to let me try for a natural birth. I say that many many many babies are born naturally in the UK with the cord there and the experienced midwife/doctor will slide it over the baby's head as it's born. 1 in 3 I heard are born like this.
My DH sees this as me not caring about the dangers of this type of birth and being reckless, we should just obey the doctor, not ask questions and agree to a CS under general anaesthetic. I hate living abroad sometimes. The cultural differences crop up all over the place. MOS and MamaGoose, I reckon you'll agree with me here.......

Pempe I think you need to explain to your DH about the risks to the baby and to you of a CS (especially under GA). this site is quite useful. Or perhaps try a post on the childbirth board?

Just got back from my (only) ante-natal class I plan on going to second time round - Feeding. After going to that and remembering what was said at the NCT class on the topic "if it hurts your latch is all wrong" then I'm not suprised I struggled first time round with BF and amazed I got through it and carried on. It just wasn't realistic or helpful at all I'm just glad we have a really good support group locally. Makes me wonder what I would think about the other classes I haven't gone to and what I would think about them with my vast wealth of knowledge (one birth and newborn )

Pempe I was born with the cord wrapped around my neck. My mum's as daft as me and didn't realise she was leaking amniotic fluid for 4 days so there were other complications with me.
Can understand your husbands worry though, must be horrible for them knowing there is absolutely nothing they can do in any way with any of the birthing.
But you're right, lots of babies are born with this and are perfectly fine.
Hope you can come to an agreement about it all soon.

FWIW I don't think you're being uncaring or wreckless

winemakesmummyclever it is good to see another nutty person on here trying to do a university course. I'm trying to get ahead on all my open university stuff and failing miserably. Know I'm going to regret it in a few weeks time...

pempe, dd was born with the cord around her shoulder, her heartrate dropped once she dropped down fully and put pressure on the cord and things were a little weird for a while but she was fine and the mw took iot all very calmly and untangled her as she was emerging.

i'd be far more afraid of a cs and the related risks, complications and afteraffects than of a repeat of dd's birth.

explain to you dh exactly what the risks of cs are to you and the baby and the long term affects to both of you and point out yet again that 1/3 babies born here are tangled in their cord and it very rarely causes problems.

bloody nesting struck again here... remember i was going to head out and walk up and down the road.... well went out with the kids on their bikes with the intention of doing just that but it was annoying me looking at what used to be my flower beds.... they're all grown over with grass and lots of dead annuals from last year. so i weeded out all the dead stuff and left the grass as there are lots of bulbs poking through so it should look ok in a month or so. went to put the dead stuff in the compost and realised the compost badly needed to be sorted so disasembled the composter and moved it, filled it with the fresh stuff that had been accumulating next to it and dug through a huge pile of compost to air it. it then occured to me that someody should really move the 4 6x6foot wood panels that blew down from the fence off the grass before they left marks so limped over to do that.

went to bring the kids back inside and realised that in the hour or two i'd been nesting the garden to rights they'd been literally rolling in muddy puddles (cheers peppa fecking pig ) and were coated in mud so had to bring them in and strip them and carry them up to the shower. then had to sort through mountains of unsorted sock as their sock drawers were empty, hang tonnes of wet washing, get the muddy clothes into the wash, empty the sink into the dishwasher and scrub all the wellies. have just collapsed in front of pc and realised it's dinner time and i've nothing sorted, my house is still a war zone despite the nesting and i've wrecked my arse/back/hips yet again AND I'M STILL NOT HAVING FECKING CONTRACTIONS!!!!!!!!!

dinky that's a great way of doing the sibling introduction - I might borrow it!

thank you pinktulips - we do in fact have some in the cupboard!

littlesez - can't you suggest other "forms of intimacy" to DH? Might help you meet halfway if you see what I mean. And orgasm - however it's achieved I presume - is supposed to help bring on labour (although we tried last night and it doesn't seem to have worked).

pempe you are totally right. They are exactly the same here about cords round the neck. 99.9% of the doctors (and they are all doctors here) would have you whisked off immediately to theatre for a CS - and as early as possible. I know people here it's happened to. I don't know why the Spanish are frightened of natural birth and trusting women's bodies, but they are. Cultural difference - it's a cultural chasm!

DS is getting a Brio Stanley train (ordered at a vastly inflated price off ebay) that he will receive when Stanley the baby appears.

DS has been told that Stanley the train is hiding in mummy's tummy (this could lead to psychological trauma in later years...) when Stanley the train is actually lurking downstairs in a black plastic wrapper.

I've asked all our relatives to bring stuff for DS rather than the baby - have more than enough clothes and half the soft toys we got last time just ended up mouldering in the corner.

DS is going to have his world turned upside down in the next few weeks so I think fair enough.

when ds was born i got a present for dd 'because you're a big sister now' (dd was a little too coy to believe i had presents in my tummy along with babies so figured it was safer )

i also brought her shopping for a teddy to give the baby.

she was far more taken with giving him a present than getting one herself and to this day she likes to point out to him that 'baa baa bear' was her present to him

ds took a fancy to a little blue teddy before xmas so i bought it and they wrapped it up and gave it to the baby for xmas, it's waiting upstairs for his arrival and they're very excited about showing it to him. haven't bothered with 'presents from the baby' as they got so much for xmas and it was just dd's birthday so really didn't see the point, they're excited enough about the baby, i don't think they need sweetening up!

Thanks everyone for your agreement about the cord thing....i'm getting very worked up and have cried, (which annoys my DH) hormones + disagreement = rubbish evening. I know I should stand my ground but honestly, the doctor's word is final, so I am feeling resigned.

{{{{{pempe shakes herself down like a wet dog and takes a deep breath}}}}}

When I told DS that there was a baby on the way, fearing there might be some jealousy issues even at that point, I told him in the same breath that usually babies bring presents for big brothers, though this kind of biber doesn't really sit well with me but ho hum. This is why the baby has always been known as Baby Father Christmas in our house... Baby Father Christmas has been very generous and bought DS a wooden castle which I hope will keep DS busy and is sufficiently a "Big Boy's" toy. We took DS to Build a Bear Workshop or whatever the eveil place is called and he "made" a bear to give to BFC which is quite sweet.