Due April 2009 - Sod the thread title, we will need a new one in a week.

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Welcome new joiners, lurkers, occasional updaters, prolific posters, and Nutty and Springy .
I say this one wont last a full 10 days.

Oooh Boffin now we're talking! That does look fab... I reckon we could have a great life there!! Of course we'll need a butler or two... how about these

That is one posh commune Boffin!! Might like the idea of commune living if its in those conditions can I bring a dh a 15 month old monster and two insane cats?

Or a more traditional commune:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1930763.stm

Nope no way. I like my home comforts too much to live in that one sorry!!!!

Kitty: I am sure for £5m the strippers should be included.

I think all pets should be allowed, don't you??

More on alternative commune here!www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056637/Lost-middle-class-tribes-secret-eco-village-Wales-spotted-a erial-photograph-taken-plane.html

I think I prefer the posh one.

Really really really off to do some work now.

Yep - the posh one definitely appeals to me!!

We can take it in turns to cook in that fab fab kitchen... oooh the feasts I could drum up there...

Oooh Nutty I'll cook if you clean... how's that for a great working relationship?

Cool bananas! I'll start dinner, shall I? Fancy some homemade spinach, three cheese and pine nut lasagne?

AuldAlliance your story about screaming baby rings very true with me - we had a very similar experience with DD. Are you concerned about reflux again?
blesse - hurt??? (can't do bloomin' accents)

Ladies i am bedridden sciatica has struck, along with general aches, cramps, Braxton Hicks. MW says nothing they can do, has suggested GP appt this afternoon but apparently manipulation/massage won't help...any MN nuggets of wisdom? XX

Mathsmummy, you got the "working backwards from nonsense translation to meaningful source" prize for the day

Yes, I am very worried that this baby might have reflux too, as I read somewhere that it tends to run in families. That's one of the niggling things that contributed to my panic last week. When DS was a baby, DH was around a lot to help, whereas with this baby he simply won't be because he has changed profession and now works long hours and comes home tired. The reflux was also why I was wondering about the Amby bed, I can't decide if it's advertising blurb or plausible that sleeping in that position and being rocked will help with reflux.

Sorry to hear you're so unwell, afraid I don't have any gems of wisdom.

Just off to work for a fun meeting to see how we can get round the minor problem of the teacher training people suddenly having announced half-way into the academic year that they are not going to pay half of what is due for the courses I organise...Can't wait.

think i've read it all now

frekkles - with regards to going to that festival, I'd definitely plan to go, and only cancel if you dont feel like it at the time. dh and I made the decision that we'd like ds to be able to go to places/do things that are not in a routine, and be used to that from a young age. we went all over the place - camped with him at about 2 months old - all fine. got a bit harder the older (as in over 1) he got cause he started noticing which bed he was sleeping in etc but when he was really wee, we went everywhere without a second thought.

re clinginess though, I do think the parents attitude has a lot to do with it, but at the same time i dont think its as easy as just getting them used to not being with you - I think they do need to be with someone for the first year or so that they know really well. The philosophy I like is that if the baby is secure with people it knows well (primarily the parents probably, but other carers that it knows really well at other times too), it will be secure enough to not be clingy, and as auldalliance says, if clinginess is for other reasons, doesnt mean they always will be.

Overall, we've just tried to be as relaxed with ds as we can be and touch wood it seems to have worked well - he's a social animal but likes the security of coming back to us (or us coming back to him) after a while.

babybolat - i'd get series 2 for when the baby comes and you are at home more than just now - but agree its hugely addictive. last time i tended to have either a good book or Friends on a laptop beside the bed to watch while doing night feeds. maybe 24 would mean you'd stay up longer though just to get to the end of the episode so scrap that.

kitty - sounds like a nightmare. hope you and your sister can get it sorted without too much trouble.

will try and keep up for a bit now.

ok just missed a whole lot while posting again, so my post may well be out of date.

Hi all
Nothing to report, just checking in. Tinternet fell off my laptop for a week and I've missed a WHOLE THREAD. Probably the usual suspects though.
Three months to go!!! I start yoga this week so that should be good and relaxing. Midwife is all for a homebirth, DH is coming round to the idea. Stretchmarks from DS1 are beginning to grow already. Anyone got any good ideas for hiding an outey belly button? A plaster doesn't work.

Reflux is such a nightmare I am worried too, but at least I know about medication and ways to ease it now.
I think this is what i have:
www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/antenatalhealth/physicalhealth/pelvicgirdlepain/
which means once again midwives have misinformed me! I am joing the campaign trail.....

I think I may well have that too mathsmummy - although in a fairly minor way compared to boffin/nutty etc. but it definitely describes the pain i have.

have to go to our other office in falkirk now - boo as I dont like going on mn on that computer as dont like having to delete someone else's history on the internet.

oh well - guess i will try and get on tonight or tomorrow, or catch up on Wed - probably with a new thread .

hope you all have a good rest of day - and hope you get somewhere telling your colleagues off babybolat for all your extra work.

Just stopping by quickly - I'm actually getting loads of work done today & should really keep up the good pace. But as I'm getting myself some lunch I thought I had a good excuse to come & say hello to you all

KittyCat, your husband does sound rather fab! So pleased that you seem to have it all under control! What a difference a day makes & all that

Nutty, I really want your DD! She's wonderful You're obviously setting an excellent example of how to keep men in check - her future boyfriends won't stand a chance!

I'm glad that your day got so much better yesterday, Boffin. Not so good about the being up at 6 marking idiot's essays. I hope people don't feel that way marking my work [worried]

Auld, I hope that you (nor any of us!) are going to have a repeat of what you had with DS. That's the sort of reason that I'm trying hard not to get too caught up in the details of what kind of parent I'm going to be, though - so many things can affect everything else & I'm paranoid about getting PND because I had expectations that were never fulfilled. I am, however, hopeful that being paranoid about PND means that I'll avoid it...

I am in love with the idea of an April mums commune! It'd be fantastic! I can't think of a group of women I'd rather share a living space with Now to raise the £5 million... (Especially because Kitty's lasagne is making me drool!)

conker, well done for catching up! I'm so impressed by the general dedication to this thread

mathsmummy, I'm sorry that you're in pain I hope that it can be eased without too much of a problem. Do you have a support belt?

B52s, nice that your MW is supportive of a HB - seems like you're much more likely to get the birth that you're after than if she was fighting against it from the start.

BB, I look forward to hearing how you've kicked the relevant people up the bum for leaaving you with so much work over the weekend!

(I wonder how much I've missed whilst writing this...)

Bloody hell not more SPD/PGP MathsMummy! It's an epidemic!!

1. Read this lot.

[Accessed 7 November 2008 [Accessed 7 November 2008 [[http://www.acpwh.org.uk/docs/ACPWH-PGP_HP.pdf [Accessed 7 November 2008] See page 10 for recommendation of mobilization]] S et al (2006) RCOG Review: Symphysis Pubis Dysfunction: A Practical Approach to Management onlinetog.org/cgi/reprint/8/3/153.pdf

1. Get referral to a physio who will do manipulation, and a chiro. Most physios are rubbish and will refuse to do manipulation. Australian ones appear to do the most manipulation. DHs can also be encouraged to massage buttocks as much as possible.

1. Get codeine phosphate or something like that from GP and dose yourself properly. You can take paracetemol at the same time. Pain is terribly depressing, as I have found to my cost.

1. Use warm baths to get yourself going in the morning.

1. Rest as much as you can and be gentle with your joints.

1. Learn to do physiotherapy pilates from a person who really knows how to do it properly, to strengthen your core stability.

1. Join our anti-NHS SPD campaign!!! And sign this petition!! And tell all your friends to as well!! petitions.number10.gov.uk/spdinpregnancy/

What a useful diagnosis & treatment plan that is, Nutty. Courtesy of the NHS. Again. I'm glad that he's keeping you entertained, at least. My DP left about 90 minutes ago to mess around with his friends in the uni games room all day & then go to the pub all evening. I wish I didn't have work to do - I can think of so many other things I could be doing with my free day of girl time.

Sorry, I got over-excited and did the links wrong. Here they are again.

Jaim, S et al (2006) RCOG Review: Symphysis Pubis Dysfunction: A Practical Approach to Management onlinetog.org/cgi/reprint/8/3/153.pdf

www.nhs.uk/planners/pregnancycareplanner/pages/Backache.aspx

www.downloads.pelvic-partnership.org.uk/about_SPD.pdf

www.acpwh.org.uk/docs/ACPWH-PGP_HP.pdf