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December 08 - a few babies under the tree still need unwrapping!

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EffiePerine · 30/12/2008 22:17

New thread ladies. I have a feeling I will be talking to myself a lot

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SummerLightning · 02/01/2009 17:09

oh no!! I had one yesterday as well. DH will not be pleased as he likes us both chilling out in the bath.

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 17:50

Help I am so far behind did effie and turnip have babies what about oilpop can someone catch me up if I try to read it all I will be so behind.

Oh no I have just looked up and seen that Oli had a girl ok what about Emmabump has she had hers. I'm sooooo far behind.

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 17:53

Summer the no bath after a cs just reduces the risk of infection so you should be ok after one.

march29 · 02/01/2009 18:12

hi, i am not a regular poster. just a lurker but am on the list. just to let u know that i had a baby girl on 28th dec, sunday at 6:36am weighing in at 6lbs 1oz.we are home and settled now.the birth was interesting to say the least as i went for a wee at 4cm dilated and suddenly felt the need to push , thinking i needed a poo, pushed and she started crowning!! on the loo... panic all stations and she was born almost instatntly....

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 18:27

Congrats March.

Have just had a read of previous page Trace, you've had a shocker with your under bits, I'm considering myself very lucky. I'm still bleeding a little if I go out for a walk and getting some clots hope it stops soon as I can start yoga when it stops. I'm also sick of wearing maternity clothes but don't want to buy normal clothes for my current size but might have to go to primark to get some el cheapo gear for larger ladies. Also those with the hold in undies how are they going as thinking of getting some of those.

theyoungvisiter · 02/01/2009 18:38

Hi everyone, sorry I've not been posting - am in awe of everyone who is finding enough time to post regularly in the midst of all the nappies and feeding! Although in mitigation, DS1 has discovered bbc iplayer has Charlie and Lola on tap so every time I turn on the computer he elbows me aside and demands Charlie and Lola.

Huge congratulations to all the new arrivals and what amazing birth stories, especially from WaitingGirl and ZoeJeanne.

To everyone struggling with sleepless nights I really sympathise, between DS1 and 2 we've had a few nuits blanches here. Just keep repeating "it does get better, it does get better, it does get better..."

VersOComeAllYeFaithful · 02/01/2009 18:38

traceface I think the aches are normal. If I remember from last time it all got a bit more sore before it got better - so it sounds like you're on the mend! (and breastaurant is very aaaaaarghhhhh)

waitinggirl thanks for posting your birth story. It must have been so frightening when DD wasn't breathing but it's wonderful that you and her are both fine.

Can anyone give me a pep talk please? This is my worst time of day as I'm tired and facing the night ahead. Any tips on how to get through it in a reasonable humour? Effie's one previously about not looking at the clock was very sound - but I'm open to all tips on how you survive. I think I'm affected a lot by how unsettled DD1 was - so I dread the night turning bad even before it has done, if that makes sense. Last night was fine too - even if DH hadn't been sharing it, DD2 was very settled and low-maintenance. Makes me think tonight will be dreadful to make up for it!

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 18:44

Right have had a little read back even further but most people of answered each others questions but I can help KMP with the passport question. We sorted both out for ds1 and it's all fairly painless. For his Aussie one you apply for his 'Cititzenship by decent' (this is a lovely certificate but made me cry because of the 'by decent' bit like he's not a real Aussie), for this you need your birth certificates etc and then you go to Australia house and apply for the passport. Once you apply for the passport it takes about 10 days and they send it to you. All the details and forms are on the website. I can't remeber how long the whole process took but it was all pretty easy. For the british one we just did it all by post but I think this time we may need to do it in person. To get the photos just do them yourself on digital camera (check what the consulate wants on their websites) and then take the camera to a happy snaps shop and they will do them as a passport size photo and can check if it is within both the British and Australian parameters. It saves you having to make sure LO is awake when you go to the shop. We layed DS1 awake onto a White towel and took several photos of him looking up at us.

DH registered Jordan today so he is official now and we can start applying for his citizenship and passports.

traceface · 02/01/2009 20:10

verso was it you that was struggling with appetite? I still have no desire to eat beyond about 3pm. I wondered if you've reached the other side or if it's still an issue?

am also getting myself worked up about the night ahead...can't really give you a pep talk but perhaps a feeling of solidarity?

I have a friend in London (by London I mean somewhere in the South of England - ignorant Northerner emoticon!) who had her baby the same day as me and she's really struggling. Her dd had a tongue tie (now been snipped) and lost loads of weight so had to be readmitted, and she tore too so is very sore down below, and not sleeping and is generally having a tough time. I was going to try to encourage her to join our thread for some moral support - am I allowed to do that? I feel very far away from her but know she could use some help...

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 20:24

I think that would be a really good idea Trace, I would love to have her on here more the merrier.

waitinggirl · 02/01/2009 20:28

verso and trace - i, too, am paralysed with fear about the night ahead. fear seems to rule me - fear of her, fear for her. it doesn't help that our nights start so early in the winter, so it feels cold, dark and lonely. but, the good news is that dd has not only regained her birth weight in 8 days, but has also put some on. so we must be doing something right.

it is the tiredness speaking, i know. must try not to panic.

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 20:47

Well done on the weight gain WG.

I feel much relieved re: weight. The MW left her scales so we can weigh Jordy at our own convenience I have been worried as even though he is looking chubbier he has had a few days of green explosive poos which is supposed to mean they are not getting the high calorie milk but we weighed him tonight as he is three weeks old tomorrow and he has put on over a kilo since birth and over 400g since last weeks weight. So feel much happier now. I think he is also about to have a growth spurt he drained both my boobs just now and oh oh oh does it feel good have been feeling constantly engorged lately and usually soak my breastpads bra and clothes, so is nice to feel almost empty. Usually he only drinks one boob at each feed.

katie3677 · 02/01/2009 20:53

Chin up girls, you are all doing amazingly well and although night times are hard, just remember that by 3 months it will all be so much better, so for some of us we are a third of the way there. PMA is my mantra. Repeat after me...'we will have a good night, we will have a good night...etc'. Pep talk over, get yourselves to bed whilst you can. {{hugs}}

reban · 02/01/2009 21:02

hi all sorry finding it hard to keep up but wanted to say congrats to turnip, oli and effie on their new year babies xx

someone asked before if you can get pregnant while breastfeeding. I used it as contraception after having ds1. I breastfeed fir 4 months, stopped and basically got pregnant within a week, so i had no periods between conceiving ds1 and ds2!!

someone else asked if it was normal for undercarriage to feel really sore .. definately, it has been through alot!!

My dp is going baxk to work on tuesday and the thought of doing the school run with 4 chikdren including a breastfeeding baby is filling me with absolute dread .. it took all our effort to get out of the house at lunchtime today just to gt to the registry office so have absolutly no idea how im gonna cope

thanks ladies fir birth stories .. they are all anazing and so varied xx

lots more to say but forgotten it all xx

EffiePerine · 02/01/2009 21:46

Hello! Home from the hospital and trying to catch up - sympathy for those suffering at nights, am wondering what will happen in our first night at home . DH is cuddling DS2 and DS1 is asleep so here is my birth story. Sorry about the length but you've said before that you like detail!

I was under strict instructions from DH not to go into labour on New Year?s Eve as we would have to fight for a taxi to get to the hospital and then battle through the drunks thronging A&E, so I was slightly perturbed to have a watery show at 12pm. Rang the ward and they said to wait and see if my waters were leaking, headed back to bed only for contractions to start soon afterwards. They were about every 5 minutes from the start, although not too painful, so I waited to see if they would calm down a bit (they didn?t) then rang the ward again and was told I was allowed to come in. Woke DH, made a cup of tea, rang for a taxi (no problems getting one after all) and headed off to the hospital. First piece of good news was that we could go into the midwife-led unit, second was that we had one of the homebirth midwife team who had been drafted in as they were short of staff. She was brilliant throughout, exactly what we needed after the flap surrounding DS1?s birth. She pronounced me 2-3 cm dilated and then actually followed my birth plan and left us to get on with things for the next few hours. In complete contrast to my first labour, the first stage was controlled and calm, the contractions steadily getting closer together and longer (I used my TENS machine from the beginning and it was a help). We were left in peace in a dim room while the midwife sat on the sofa outside and wrote up her notes (?let me know when the baby?s coming?) and she quietly came in and monitored the baby every now and again. Just before she was due to end her shift she examined me again and I was 7 cm dilated (by this time using G&A for the contractions, it is GOOD STUFF). That all took about 5 hours but seemed much shorter, especially as I was able to doze a bit in the early stages.

At this point I got scared and asked about more pain relief (should have realised I was going into transition), accepted that getting an epidural into my back at this stage would be tricky and knelt on the bed gripping onto the back. The mw told me to keep using the G&A throughout so it would work properly and I took her at her word? things got very blurry. I remember a lot of pressure, some very peculiar noises and somehow heard the midwife telling me to slow down at certain points. I think I got cross that the G&A cylinder was making funny noises (I was sucking the stuff down pretty strongly) and sobbed to DH that I didn?t know what was happening (unsurprisingly as I was orbiting somewhere near the ceiling, I am a cheap drunk). Then there were baby sounds and I laid off the gas long enough to demand to see my baby (at some length) but was persuaded to turn around first so they could get the placenta out. I ended up losing a fair amount of blood and they needed to put traction on the cord to get the placenta out, DS2 also had the cord round his neck and there were two knots in it, but all was well. The second stage was only 14 minutes, the third stage 11. Despite the G&A and the speed it hurt a LOT. DS2 was 8 lbs 9 oz, the 5th baby to be born on New Years Day at the hospital and the largest newborn on the ward. The NYD thing means there will be a hideously unflattering photo of us in the local rag for the standard 2009 babies filler article.

Anyway, we are home, he is gorgeous despite having pointy ears and a face like a squished tomato and he is suspiciously placid, he actually sleeps a fair amount and doesn?t cry much. This may change

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EffiePerine · 02/01/2009 21:49

Oh and no episiotomy or stitches, only a minor tear . The afterpains are grim though .

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pixsix · 02/01/2009 22:11

well done and congrats effie!

kmp1 · 02/01/2009 22:32

Bugger just wrote a long post and lost the lot.... I will summarize - thanks Veggie for the passport info - just wondering - can i do the citizenship by decent at Australia House too at the same time as applying for his passport? reason I ask is a friend is doing her DD's NZ one over in NZ as it's easier or perhaps she has to? Maybe NZ is different? not sure... I will attempt to register him on Monday - do i need an appointment for that - if not i will be in the area of Westfield so could attempt a meetup ladyt and arti but have a feeling i need an appointment? so not sure if it'll be that day if that's the case?

Veggiemummy · 02/01/2009 22:40

Well done effie and great birth story I love the g&a blur.

kayzr · 02/01/2009 23:11

A great birth story Effie. I have really enjoyed reading everyone's birth stories. Its really interesting. I do agree with whoever said that there should be a book of birth stories done.

Still having the strange thoughts that FF would be better for DS2. I think it is to do with thinking I don't produce enough milk for him. I've stopped leaking except for first thing in the morning. HV thinks I might not be producing enough because I've stopped leaking. I rang LLL about it, she was lovely and said that quite a few women ring saying they love BF but feel that FF would be best. Normally it is people like me who have been told to give top ups. She said to keep BF for as long as I feel I want to. It has been getting me really down and I do feel better to get it off my chest.

Here are some pictures of my boys from Xmas. Mainly of Freddie.

lal07 · 02/01/2009 23:17

many many congrats oli and turnip. hurrah!
and thanks for your birth story wg. made me cry (they all have - am complete wuss). think you and your dh were very brave.
also effie - great story. your mw sounds fantastic. hope tonight goes ok for you.
kayz - i pretty much never leaked with DS and hardly do with DD - think my let down is pretty slow so don't think it necessarily means you haven't got enough milk. Lovely photos - Freddie is gorgeous! Such great hair...

kayzr · 02/01/2009 23:22

I know Lal his hair is amazing. I have dead straight hair and I am so jealous. He certainly gets his hair from his Dad.

I do think I must learn to completely ignore HVs, Mws etc when it comes to feeding.

CatDean · 02/01/2009 23:48

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VersOComeAllYeFaithful · 03/01/2009 00:03

We have a baby swing from DD1 and it works if DD2 is upset but not TOO upset. If she's really worked up nothing soothes her apart from a car ride. DH has taken her out just now. Things were going really well - down calmly at 7:30 in moses basket, up for a feed 9:30... then chaos. It's been a really good day as well . Ugh.

Hate relying on the car. Rod. Back. etc - but it works and she sleeps for several hours after and then settles fine so is it really so bad? Also she will settle in her moses basket or bouncy chair during the day, unlike DD1, so it's not as though it's the ONLY way we can get her to sleep... and she's only 5.5 weeks.

I feel rubbish though, not being able to soothe her. Most frustrating thing of all is I'd finally got her off about 11pm - she made a lovely little sigh - dropped off to sleep myself for about 15 blissful minutes, and then she woke up and was INCONSOLABLE. Oh well. This too will pass... DD1 NEVER slept, and has been fast asleep through all the screaming/crying... so I daresay DD2 will get there in the end.

waitinggirl · 03/01/2009 00:51

We are coming to five hours of frenzied screaming, crying, feeding. We were advised to use Dentinox by friends. Have other people used Dentinox and does it work? Is it basically the same thing as Infacol? It breaks my heart to shove the plastic syringe and medicine in her if it's not going to help.

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