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December 08 - a few babies under the tree still need unwrapping!

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EffiePerine · 30/12/2008 22:17

New thread ladies. I have a feeling I will be talking to myself a lot

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kayzr · 02/01/2009 09:32

Congratulations Oli!!

Is that everyone now? Do we all have our babies?

DS2 was up loads last night, probably having his 3 week growth spurt. He did settle in his moses basket though. I can't believe he is 3 weeks old today, it seems to have flown by.

Wg I would see if your DH would go to his gp for some help.

Hope everyone is ok. I've got a pretty bad cough and have lost my voice. It's horrible being ill and not getting much sleep.

LadyThompson · 02/01/2009 10:17

Just some quickies: Oli, wow! And what a pretty name.

Bisou, are there any regular posters yet to have their babies?

Arti, I am an exclusive ff and didn't take any offence at what you said re: bf and doubt anyone did

Katie, it is 6 weeks on Tuesday since I had DD (unbelievable) and the bleeding has really only almost stopped the last day or two.

More later as I need to make up some bottles. Got to brave the crowds later to try to get some accessories for my dress for the wedding tomorrow. Thanks so much for all your advice. I know what I am looking for but the shops are a bit duff in Oxford so my hopes aren't high. However, when I am in London on Monday I think I might have a little trip over to that new shopping Mecca, Westfields if any West London ladies are up for a coffee in the afternoon. I need to buy some fat clothes. I am so bored of my maternity gear and nothing else will fit for quite a while Right, bottles...

LadyThompson · 02/01/2009 10:17

Just some quickies: Oli, wow! And what a pretty name.

Bisou, are there any regular posters yet to have their babies?

Arti, I am an exclusive ff and didn't take any offence at what you said re: bf and doubt anyone did

Katie, it is 6 weeks on Tuesday since I had DD (unbelievable) and the bleeding has really only almost stopped the last day or two.

More later as I need to make up some bottles. Got to brave the crowds later to try to get some accessories for my dress for the wedding tomorrow. Thanks so much for all your advice. I know what I am looking for but the shops are a bit duff in Oxford so my hopes aren't high. However, when I am in London on Monday I think I might have a little trip over to that new shopping Mecca, Westfields if any West London ladies are up for a coffee in the afternoon. I need to buy some fat clothes. I am so bored of my maternity gear and nothing else will fit for quite a while Right, bottles...

LadyThompson · 02/01/2009 10:28

Don't know what that posted twice. Pixsix, lovely to have you back, meant to say that before. You are only 10lb over your booking in weight? I have about 15kg to lose if not more. I don't want to think about what that is in pounds. I think it's a good three stone! I am hoping to get the go ahead for a diet on Monday (the obstetrician said don't even think about it whilst the scar is healing) and also find out what exercise I can do. But I am resigned to spending much of 2009 being a heffalump, unless my diet works faster than I am anticipating...

pixsix · 02/01/2009 10:43

Thanks LT, yes, 10lb over my booking in weight but that was a good 2 stone over my ideal weight. I will be joining you in the New Year diet. Hopefully we will be back to our old selves by the Summer. I also have my 6 week check on Monday. Can you believe how fast the time has gone? I think my ds is growing bigger before my eyes. I put away a lot of the really tiny newborn sized clothes the other day and it made me a bit emotional that he is growing up so quickly!!

SummerLightning · 02/01/2009 10:54

pixsix 10lbs is nowt!! People won't even notice!! You should not use it as an excuse not to get out...I am not going to and I am a big heffer who is 2 stone over my booking in weight (about 10kg).
Can you really not exercise until 6 weeks?? I am going to be desperate to go for a bike ride in a couple of weeks I can see it...will also need a diet. I hate dieting!!
Congratulations to turnip Effie and Oli!!

pixsix · 02/01/2009 11:14

Thanks Summer! Ok have decided to stop being an idiot and have signed up for Weight Watchers online. Will also tackle public breast feeding next week

artichokes · 02/01/2009 11:26

Morning all,

Pixsix - I wish I was only 10lbs over my bookinh weight. That is really nothing to be embarrassed about. I have about 18lbs to go and I that is much better than with DD1! BF does help lose weight but its not instant. I think nmost women take a good six months to get back to their normal weight. It is frustrating not being able to exercise or diet though. And christmas eating has not helped. Every morning I stand on teh scales full of hope and every morning I weigh the same.

LadyT - If you are venturing over to Westfield I could try and meet you for a coffee as it is a 15 minute walk from my house.

WaitingGirl - Your poor DH. I know some men are very traumatised by seeing their wives go through difficult births. Have you talked to him about getting help? The quicker he does the quicker he will feel better.

Better go. DD2 is having the one long nap of the day that she is prepared to do in teh moses basket so I should be using the time to sort things.

rosmerta · 02/01/2009 13:11

Arti, you don't live far from me .

Wish I could join you both on Monday but don't fancy trying both ds's on the tube or bus!

waitinggirl · 02/01/2009 13:48

well done oli - sounds blissful - v jealous.

thanks for the advice re: dh - he is getting better. the PIL have now disappeared back home and i have no doubt that will help.

can i ask the c-sectioners a question? i've been really fine with it - walking around from day 1, needing v little pain relief. stitches are coming out this afternoon, but the little(?) roll of flab above is tingling and numb - just below the belly button - is this normal? will ask midwife anyway, but thought i'd ask you guys.

btw - anyone attempting weight loss at the mo - a friend's experience was that it will affect your breastmilk if you are bf, so might be good to wait a while. but you probably knew that...

SummerLightning · 02/01/2009 14:23

I have the tingling numb thing too wg I think I read somewhere that it is normal

VersOComeAllYeFaithful · 02/01/2009 14:30

I don't have the tingling or numbness wg but I do know it's normal.

Kimberly1979 · 02/01/2009 14:31

WG I have the same little roll that is numb and tingly. I think it's normal. I had my stitches removed yesterday and they didn't say anything about it. I think they would be concerned if it was red and inflammed and painful.

Sorry I haven't properly caught up on all that's been happening. The In-laws are here and things have been a little insane with the baby and trying to coordinate meeting times with the grandparents.

Here's the birth story:

Starting having contractions early in the morning on Boxing Day. Starting timing them and called the MW. They advised I come in and be checked out. When we arrived they did an internal exam and I was already 3 cm dialated. They went ahead and also did a sweep to help keep things moving. Got into the birthing pool which was amazing and labour was progressing really well. I didn't need any pain medication or anything at this point. Contractions got much harder and the midwife said she thought I could start pushing. So after pushing in the pool for a while we decided that I wasn't getting good footing since I kept floating. ha! So we got out of the pool and things started to go down hill from there.

After pushing for another 20 minutes or so I started to get exhausted. Mind you we went in at 11 am and by this time is was going on 10pm. The doctor came in to see how I was doing and did another exam and told me to stop pushing because I wasn't fully dialated! My DH and I were shocked! So the doctor did another sweep and said he'd be back to check the progress in a little while. At this point I decided I wanted some gas/air for the pain. After 4 hours the doc came back and said that nothing was happening and that he thought that the pushing early may have stalled out labour. So we decided at that point c-section was best.

The c-section went well except for me having (and still having) a stiff neck. But Baby Judah came out beautiful and with a crazy shaped head from the early pushing. Thankfully all is back to normal!

I've been feeling pretty good except for the neck thing. I actually have an acupuncture appointment today to try and sort it out.

Hope everyone is doing well. I have lots of catching up to do on here!!

zoejeanne · 02/01/2009 14:41

Congratulations to Turnip and Oli, fab news on your little girls. Have we heard from emmanbump, or did I miss a birth? She?s the only regular poster I can think of who hasn?t popped yet (but huge apologies if my empty postpartum brain has forgotten someone).

LadyT thanks for being the one to share about connecting with your LO, like I said it was hugely reassuring to know I wasn?t abnormal to not feel an immediate bond. And yes, DH was a great support, but I?m a bit embarrassed to admit I did have very low expectations, as he is normally so squeamish, so I feel quite bad for having so little faith in him beforehand.

WG your DH deserves a big pat on the back for standing up to his parents, I do hope both he and you are feeling better very soon. And to second your point on diets and BF - my midwife said yesterday that the most important thing a breastfeeding mother should do is eat LOADS and in her opinion it isn?t stressed enough. (I recommend cake and biscuits to start with).

SL were you aware of your LO?s dropping heart rate? It scares me silly now, but at the time I wasn?t really aware of what was going on.

Cat my DH also goes back to work on Monday and I?m also very scared, as he?s been doing the same as your DP. He?s worked half a day today, and I?ve coped this morning, so maybe I?ll manage, but it is a very daunting prospect, I agree. And on feeding, I was just going for one side at a time as it seems to satisfy DD, however I think today she?s hit her first growth spurt (11 days old) as she is feeding more regularly, so maybe next feed (which is likely to be soon as she?s just stirring) I?ll try both sides. How long do these growth spurts last? A day, several days, a week? There?s so much to learn about babies!

DD?s pooing ?routine? has changed recently. Until a couple of days ago she was doing several a day, but she?s now doing just one or two HUGE ones (proper leaking out of the nappy and threatening to flood the changing mat!) ? and always in the middle of the night ? so much fun at 3am!

So I feel I need to explain myself about strip guess who You know Guess Who? That game with lots of faces and you ask questions like ?Does he have a big nose? Is he wearing a hat? Is it Paul?? - well a combination of teenage hormones, too much booze and boredom lead to us creating a strip version of this (we were also known to play strip paper scissors stone when guess who wasn?t to hand) Oh the joys of growing up in the countryside with little to do ?

Indith · 02/01/2009 15:07

ongrats to effie, turnip, oli and anypne else!

You'd have though having babies would slow you lot down but no, juyst as much chat to get lost in

Dd is still lovely, getting used to being a NSC amd being dumped in her bouncer/on the floor. I'm looking forward to next week now with creche, toddlers etc starting again. Dh goes back to work on the Friday so will be nice to be eased into things although in some ways it will be nice to have him back at work and let us find our routine again as with dh here there is always a lot of faffing and not much action!

Sympathy to those with sleepless nights, growth spurts etc. Dd not settling well at night at the moment which is a bit of a pain but tis early days. She doesn't cluster feed in the evenings, at the moment she just dozes in the living room til I take her to bed with me (then the dozing ends ).

Those asking about growth spurts, it varies, some can last ages, some not. Ds used to last about a week, he would wake more frequently and build up until he was feeding all bloody night then after he peaked that was it and he would start sleeping again. Often he would follow it with a couple of really good nights. I think they feed loads then need to sleep to do the growing part.

Take care

traceface · 02/01/2009 15:43

I read somewhere that they have growth spurts at 7-10 days, 2-3 weeks, 4-6 weeks, 3 months, 4 months ...blah blah blah - it sounds to me like they're always having growth spurts!

Am a bit befuddled about the 1 or 2 breast thing! Phoebe always just goes on one, and is always sick afterwards and is gaining weight, so I've never even offered her the second one, but she does feed every 2 hours round the clock so maybe she needs the other - but would surely just puke it back? Why don't these precious bundles come with a user-guide?!!

waitinggirl · 02/01/2009 15:44

Right, our birth story? warning, it's long.

We?d just finished wrapping our presents, dh upstairs, me downstairs. He was sorting out the kitchen, I was lying on the sofa watching tv when pop, just like a balloon filled with warm water, my waters broke. I jumped off the sofa thinking ?this cost a fortune?, found myself standing on a new rug thinking ?this cost a fortune?, realised we have just carpeted the house for a small fortune and ran to the kitchen which is tiled. I then stood there for 10 mins or so like a horse pissing ? legs apart, water gushing. Dh ran around wondering what to do while I laughed and laughed and laughed ? it was finally beginning and I was thrilled. 5 mins into it, contractions started and they were coming about 3 mins apart. I was amazed, having expected them to be much more intermittent and not so strong at first, so thought yay, we?re having a baby in a few hours time! Got into the car, thought ? fantastic timing, this means we can park outside the hospital and have free parking on Christmas day and boxing day, too ? really solving one of our major problems with getting to the hospital (Whittington in Archway).

Got to hospital, they found us a room and a wonderful midwife (ALL the staff apart from one doctor in the labour part of the hospital were AMAZING ? we were really impressed ? diff story postnatally). She saw the contractions were coming fast and frequent and checked me out ? 1cm dilated. Not what either of us expected. By rights, she said, I should be sent home or at least sent to a different ward as this wasn?t even classified as active labour. But she kept me there because of the strength and frequency of contractions ? I was thrilled again, because it was one of the 2 rooms with a birth pool which was part of my plan. She helped me in my movement and breathing, dh timed contractions and helped and it was all going swimmingly. 4 hours later and I was using my yoga moves and some voicing and the TENS and she checked again ? 1-2 cm dilated. We were all really disappointed. She also said the baby?s head wasn?t properly engaged (this after it engaged fully at 30 weeks the little sod, but popped out later on). So we kept going ? the pain was beginning to get to me and she said that I just had to ask for relief and we?d get some. I mentioned gas and air and was so looking forward to it. With just 2 inhalations I vommed for Britain ? so that was out. I was utterly shocked and asked what the next step was re: pain relief: pethidine. I?ve had p before for another procedure and had a great time on it, so asked for that. It did help, but distanced, rather than eased the pain. However, it made me want to stay still, so I sat upright in a chair and dh held my hand and I tried to will the pain away with force of mind. So from here on in there was almost no movement. I was just too scared to move for some reason. Another 4 hours later and a change of midwife (to someone equally lovely), they checked dilation: 3cm. it was here that the doctors monitored me and saw the baby?s heartbeat was dropping occasionally. They suggested a syntocin drip as the next stage ? and it was then I asked for the epidural. If it was going to get even more painful, I didn?t want to feel it. So the Lovely anaesthetist came in and explained everything and put it in and then it was bliss (iykwim). We watched the contractions increase on the monitor both in strength and frequency ? 4 every 10 mins and the midwife was convinced that the next time I got checked the syntocin would be doing its job and I?d be 7 cm. they next checked and I was 4cm ? at this point they mentioned a c-section if the dilation hadn?t progressed at the next check ? they also mentioned the problem with the baby?s heartbeat dropping.

We were both gutted to hear the word, really ? really really disappointed. I just never thought I would have one, it had never even occurred to me. The midwife then said she would do everything she could with the syntocin to get me dilated further ? she was v confident that it would work. She also found that if I moved to one side the baby?s heartbeat didn?t drop quite so much ? she was wonderful. However after another interminable age, the same doctor checked me and basically ordered me to have a c-section (her bedside manner left something to be desired ? dh asked a question about statistics and she a) blanked him and then b) told him no such statistics existed).
So once we decided on a c-section, we had to wait another 3 hours for a couple of other women to go in before us ? it gave us time to come to terms with it, I suppose, but also gave me time to become really really nervous. By the time I went in I was shaking like a leaf in an earthquake. I got more scared as the top up epidural made me sick again, but the staff in the theatre were fab. I thought they were still fiddling around trying to get in when dh saw dd come out (it took 3 mins from the start to pulling her out ? it is so so fast ? the rest of the time was sewing me back up). From now on dh had to fill me in because I was slightly out of it ? dd came out white and limp and obviously not breathing. They paged some doctors who rushed in not in scrubs, so dh realised the shit might be hitting the proverbial ? he went over and was pushed out of the way by doctors. By this time I was complaining of not being able to breathe (probably the pressure of the doctors trying to get membranes and placenta out, I imagine). So poor dh thought not only was his dw dying on the operating table, but that his newborn child was stillborn. Luckily the doctors do what doctors do, I got better and then we heard a cry then another, then a lovely paediatrician in a Pringle jumper (looked so odd when everyone else in scrubs) came over to tell us the baby might need some time in the neonatal unit, but should be fine ? he found out she was a girl at which point I cried and cried and cried because I had secretly wanted one all this time in honour of my mum, but had tried to convince myself it was a boy.

About an hour later the little thing was sucking away merrily on my breast and the doctors were really impressed. They did a quick check of blood gases and told us to ignore everything before and treat her like a normal baby, everything was fine ? so, she is a fighter (don?t we know that in the middle of the night when she cries). It was strange. Like LadyT said, we didn?t exactly bond immediately ? dh and I joked that we wouldn?t be able to pick her out ina line up, and that we were intellectually in love with her, but not necessarily viscerally. I suppose it takes time.

I was in labour for 22 hours in total, never got beyond 4cm dilated, and the baby only ever got to 1/5 palpably engaged, so it was never really going to happen vaginally. I never in a million years thought I?d end up with a c-section, but in the end it was a really good experience. As DH says, it was both the best and the worst day of his life.

Sorry this was so long.

traceface · 02/01/2009 15:45

I just read that back - I do alternate which boob she has - I don't just give her the same one every time! Although it is tempting because the left is cracked and bleeding and very sore, and the right is beautifully pain free!

that reminds me - when I had dd1, we hd some friends with a baby at the same time. Whenever their LO was due a feed, the DH would say "looks like it's time for a trip to the Breastaurant!" - how annoying would that get?!!!!

waitinggirl · 02/01/2009 15:46

oh, just posted and saw how massive it is. sorry again

traceface · 02/01/2009 15:50

amazing story WG - don't apologize for it!!!

traceface · 02/01/2009 15:53

oh and can I ask an 'undercarriage' question?!!
I'm 3 weeks post delivery and all stitches/ grazes etc are feeling a million times better, but now it's all started to ache and feel bruised - I feel like I've been kicked in the clit! (sorry TMI!) - is this normal? Have cut down my painkillers so maybe it was sore all along but was drowned out by the other pain? Is anyone else feeling battered down there?
And today I have belly ache like period pain again! Weird! Still bleeding too but much lighter and more browny orange most of the time.

SummerLightning · 02/01/2009 16:48

ZJ I think I was too out of it to be scared by the dropping hr thing. It only got worrying when I was in quite a lot of pain. And I don't think they ever implied that it was life-threatening to the little one at any point, just very worrying. I do remember muttering "Is he going to be ok?" and being reassured that he was.

WG that is a great birth story!! Sounds quite similar to my experience with the dropping hr and not being engaged thing. I would love to know if it would be likely to be something that would reoccur in a future pregnancy so if at any point you get any explanation of why this sort of thing might happen let me know! I have the same feelings about c/s, in that I never expected to have to have one...especially as hardly anyone on here had had an em c/s up to that point (until the xmas day glut of them!), and pretty much no-one I know in R/L. So i just assumed I wouldn't. I wasn't that disappointed at the time though, more relieved in fact as everything was hurting quite a lot and I was starting to realise that if it was going to happen the normal route at the very least it was going to be complicated, medicalized and long...
Oh and so glad the little one is perfectly fine now after the initial worry!

trace - breastaraunt, sigh. Maybe funny the first time! I shall not tell DH that one as he will probably find it hilarious and keep repeating it!

Just been to local BFing clinic to ask about little ones mammoth over night feeds (about midnight to 4am for the last 5 nights). Apparently it is "normal". Bummer. And it won't last for ever...well I should hope not!!!

rosmerta · 02/01/2009 16:53

traceface the ache & feeling bruised is normal, or so my mw told me. Apparently its just if you've started doing more walking/generally being active & part of the healing process.

SummerLightning · 02/01/2009 16:54

Oh, I have a question...are you allowed to have a bath post c/s? I think I read showers only til it's healed, but what counts as healed?

waitinggirl · 02/01/2009 17:08

summer - i heard no baths until 6 weeks, but may be wrong. i'm a shower kind of gal, so suits me.