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dinkystinkyclaus · 23/12/2008 20:34

A sparkling new thread in time for christmas

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onwardandmerrilyupward · 29/12/2008 13:21

I did a response on your birth plan thread, dear Mrsy, but also wanted to say:

we're not doing vit K this time unless it is a traumatic birth. It's one of those things that the hospitals like to do because the benefits and convenience (to them) of giving vit K to the tiny tiny percentage of babies who have a really traumatic time and end up very bruised and might have clotting problems outweigh (for them) the nonsense of giving vit K to thousands of perfectly healthy babies.

I would be very very very hesitant about allowing anyone to break my waters this time. It's an intervention just like a sweep or an augmentation drip. It gets in the way of whatever your body is meant to be doing. I've been reading a great book called "Let birth be born again" which is all about optimal foetal positioning, and she talks about how, if a baby is in an awkward position and therefore not coming down onto the cervix efficiently, and not getting down the birth canal with the twist and wriggle it needs, then the WORST thing you can do is break the waters because then the baby has lost the buoyancy which would have helped it turn, and both of you have got the bone-to-bone friction as they try to do so. I say this advisedly, as someone whose waters were broken last time (after having been on an augmentation drip for about 6 hours with no meaningful progress going on). I then went from something like 3 cm dilated (After erm 30 hours of labour) to fully dilated in about an hour, and then gave birth to a sunny-side-up baby. i.e. they never did turn, they came out the hard way. And oh my dear God, the time from the waters being ruptured to the beginning of pushing were intense. So yeah, if things aren't progressing, see if you can find a way of having some micro naps between contractions and get in a good spinnning baby position and see if the baby will turn on its own (and therefore speed up the labour massively). I really felt a momentum last time, that I was emotionally committed to being in labour, and so were my birth partners, and so were all the medics, when actually what might have been good would be for someone to have persuaded me to take an aspirin and have a rest rather than trying to hurry things along.

And I'm another who will not be having the placenta jab unless I am haemorhhaging. I wish I could spell that word. And yes, I retained it last time. Somewhat galling, to manage my epic labour with just the (ack ack horrid) hour on entononx, and then find myself being given a full spinal block and wheeled into theatre to pull the damn thing out after the baby had arrived. So I'd rather let my own hormones do the job rather than injecting artificial ones, since I don't have all that much faith in the artificial ones...

What do you mean, "O&U seems to have baggage"?????

dinkystinkyclaus · 29/12/2008 13:22

MrsY - you probably did then. Just scanned your other post v quickly so probably missed it!

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littleboyblue · 29/12/2008 14:36

onward all I can say is oh. How awful having to have a spinal block after baby is born. And I thought I'd had it bad!
Everytrhing your saying about the waters being artificially broken makes perfect sense though doesn't it? Ds was also back-2-back, they discovered after 3hr pushing that waters had gone. I remember aking if they had when I felt a gush, but apparently not then (convinced it was though) so like you say he would have had trouble turning.

This baby really doesn't like me walking!

I've just got the mosses basket out to wash the hood and fleece surround bit. I forgot how cute it is!
Also showing mattress to dp, he's trying to be too tight and saying we don't need a new one but the old one has a big dip in it, so he definately not gettiong away with not buying one, the skin-flint!

spottyshoes · 29/12/2008 14:45

Tiz done! Embarassingly clearing my desk meant bringing home a bag full of food . No more work until April 2010! YAY.

Congrats on the date LMN and the name KT

OMG, talk of birth plans and definate dates makes it so real - we are definately having babies!!! Shit

Do MW actually read Birthplans then? I always had visions of them scanning it when you first go in but not taking it all in, then shift changes etc. So always thought it would be more important that the OH be fully versed, and able to speak up, re our wishes.

littleboyblue · 29/12/2008 14:50

I'm pretty sure they have to follow everything you put in your notes as they are your wishes, well thought out at a time where you are mentally able to make sensible decisions rather than when you're off your nut on G&A.
Obviously also a good idea to have birth partner aware of what ou want, my dp is rubbish and will just nod along to what they say regardless. He also can't do confrontation you'd think he was 12 not 37!
I'd only do a birth plan if you have very strong feelings about certain things, if you feel they might not take them seriously at hospitasl, go through it with cmw and get her to sugh it, then if any problems with it, you can request your notes back after birth and complain about anything that was ignored as long as there was no medical reason.

MarkStretch · 29/12/2008 14:53

Hello all

I am here but unfortuately had to give my work laptop back this morning so instead of the luxury of wireless broadband I now have to sit upstairs in the corner of the cold junk soon to be baby's room amongst hundreds of boxes on our crappy laptop to speak to you all!

Have written DH a list of things we need to do before baby arrives and number one is to ring Sky and sort out our wireless! (second is birthplan - MN comes first!)

Went in for my last team meeting today, official leaving day is Friday but I have no laptop now so it's a skulk around all week for me and then maternity leave woooooo!

Thank you all for the birthday messages, 30 seems to be ok so far - apart from sneezing amd wetting myself so I guess my pelvoc floor is feeling the age increase also.

Name is finally decided here too KT- love the name Poppy, it's gorgeous.

spottyshoes · 29/12/2008 15:10

I'm with you on the sneezing MS - tenna lady here we come

Do we get to hear your name?

PinkPoinsettias · 29/12/2008 15:40

o&u.... i had an ARM with both of mine as i wasn't progressing (16+ hours to get to 3cm both times!) and have to say, it was intense but i quite liked going from 3cm to having my baby in my arms in 2 hours!

at that point i was so tired from hours upon hours of regular, long and painful contractions that were doing nothing that anything that got my babies out asap without involving stitches was a godsend

ds was posterior and was born wrong way round but thankfully he was my second and i appear to have plenty of room down there as he came out with his arm over his face to boot so in the end although i do prefer the natural way and wholeheartedly agree that you should give your body a chance to do what it can... in my case i'm not convinced i was ever going to get any further without the ARM without ending up needing other intervention or drugs so it was an option that suited me.

when it comes to these sorts of procedures i really think you need to keep an open mind until you're in that situation.... sometimes something you had been dead set against may turn out to be the lesser of 2 evils

PinkPoinsettias · 29/12/2008 15:58

got dd her bike

now just have to hope dp's wages come in on friday (not a bank holiday so they surely will right? ) so that i don't have to make an embaressing phone call to the car loan people next week

but it was on sale.... we couldn't leave it there

might have also accidentally got the baby's rocker chair thing........ well it was in the sale too so i saved us money really.......

chilledmincepiemama · 29/12/2008 17:42

My DS had VitK drops. 1 dose from MW after birth sorted out. 1 dose 7 days later and another 7 days after that. You get a prescription for the other doses and do them yourself...complete phaf and only did cause DH said why do injection when you don't have to. As for whether to do it or not...I couldn't see the harm and couldn't find anything to say there was a possible down side so went for it.
I had a physiological 3rd stage...said I have happy to have injection if I started to heamorage (I can't spell it either) but let me have a go first...several people I know have suffered terribly from headaches as result of injection and as I am prone to them I thought it would be wise to avoid. In the end it turned out for the best as I had an unusual placenta. The cord was right on the edge rather thanin the centre and if the MW had pulled it would have shredded the whole thing and I would have ended up in hospital (had HB)having a D&C (ouch).
When MW arrived at house, the first thing she asked about was my birth plan...please be advised most MW and hospitals refer to them as Wish Lists...that's not so say they will ignore but some people arrive with War & Peace!!
Haven't been on for a few days...anyone popped yet???????

MarkStretch · 29/12/2008 18:49

Goodness me, DH was just playing around with our new camera and filmed me in the kitchen. Not terribly exciting but I am HUGE! It has really brought it home that we're all nearing full term and I actually have a baby in me that's going to come out!

Name is Frankie Laurence L-H, after much debating (and I wasn't allowed Spike )

We got paint samples for his room today- I'm getting excited now woooooo!

DH and I are having an early night tonight and watching soaps in bed as we're both knackered, might persuade him to write a birth plan with me.

PinkPoinsettias · 29/12/2008 18:55

ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow

even when kung fu panda isn't moving i'm being jabbed now

that's not right is it? feeling realy sick too.

chilledmincepiemama · 29/12/2008 19:18

PP-towards end with DS, I couldn't sit down as it compressed my abdomen and it felt like he was going to come out through my throat!
Just read the articles linkde on previous page...now thinking NO to VitK unless traumatic birth. Will chat to MW at Friday at my antenatal app.

spottyshoes · 29/12/2008 20:13

Must admit we went for the inj after reading up as couldn't be faffed with the drops. It was over and done in a second without a peep and will do the same with this one!

I like it MS! How did you think of Frankie - is it a family name? Love Laurence! Sorry I'm being nosey but I love to know how people decide on their names as we struggled so much with ours.

I'm hoping to start on the labour bag birth plan any general baby prep nursery soon. Despite not knowing the sex I cant bring myself to do a 'yellow' room so am thinking under the sea or something fairly neutral but that wont need changing in a year. Made the mistake of doing a proper 'nursery' for DS and found it too babyish by the time he was starting to walk and look toddlerish at 10.5 months

Lol at PP's accidental shopping!

spottyshoes · 29/12/2008 20:16

and FYI - DONT buy a Wii fit if you live in anything other than a bungalow. I am going to strangle my step son (room directly above the lounge) in about 30 seconds!!!!!!

theHoHoHouseofmirth · 29/12/2008 20:43

Evening all!

Isn't it funny how we've all got Christmas out of the way and all our thoughts have instantly turned to having a baby!

I have washed 13 muslins this afternoon and am just about to unearth my birthplan from last time and tweak it. I'm sure how much they are taken notice of depends upon the individual mw but it certainly think it sets the tone for the kind of birth you want and lets the mw know what kind of labouring mother she is dealing with. Actually with DS I think the mws, who were very young, probably respected my wishes for no intervention a bit too much and should have intervened a bit earlier (DS was born by ventouse having got pretty well stuck) but all's well that ends well.

On the subject of injections, what is everyone doing about innoculations? DS has never had MMR but did have the first lots of baby injections, largely because it was early days and I wasn't thinking straight enough to consider not having them. Still haven't decided what to do this time. Must dig out my vaccination books.

Is everyone else shattered? DS is not sleeping vey well so is disturbing me every night, apart from that I am comfy and don't need to get up to constantly wee but after having pretty high energy leveld reently I find I am ready for a nap each day by lunchtime (though I nver get one!)

lardybump · 29/12/2008 21:01

Evening all. I have not been on for ages..... I am huge as well MS, I was never this big last time!! Baby feels really big as well but we will see!!!

I hope you all had a lovely christmas, I did, it has been great. Really looking forward to getting everything sorted for the baby now which starts on friday with getting dd a bed.....

I had a very set birthplan last time but it all went out the window as dd got stuck and so neaded medical intervention... Will probably not do one this time as I will be going with the flow!!

littleboyblue · 29/12/2008 21:26

MS Love the name. Dp has also started talking today about getting the boys room decorated before bub comes along. Sounds wierd saying boys! I doubt it'll get done though, baby due in 6 wks and dp lives with both arms up his arse!

PP I can't sit comfortable now and every single movement that he makes is very painful like he is kicking my bones, sure it's normal at this stage though?

chilledmama I must have missed the link about vit K, on this thread? I went for injetion too, ashamed to admit I hadn't even heard of it and they asked the second he was out, I would have agreed to anythin though at that point. Will be going for injection again this time. ds also had BCG the day after he was born and stopped crying when the needle went in, should have known then he was a bit of a wierdo!

spotty under the sea for nursery sounds lovely. We were going for a yellow room although we know it's a boy but thought yellow is a good background colour for when interests change, for example ITNG to Bob the Buidler, Thomas the Tank etc etc. Will prob do blue though.

HOM know what you mean, I got moses basket out today and took covers off to wash that, have also done loads of vests and socks and grows etc, looking at them, it's hard to believe that ds was ever that small!
My ds had every injection going.

oooggs · 29/12/2008 22:07

happy birthday MS and thankyou for all my birthday wishes

I ma the size of a house, very uncomfortable and keep wetting myself. Need to pack a bag! but can't think of what to put in it!

Collecting our bigger car tomorrow (pic on profile)

hope everyone is well

so who is going to be first? and how will we know? anyone co-ordinating birth buddies through mobiles?

littleboyblue · 29/12/2008 22:11

Where's TBM? Anyone heard from her recently?

theHoHoHouseofmirth · 29/12/2008 22:17

Oogs I think there's a buddies thing on Facebook. Also, seeing as I'm such a list freak I was thinking we should start some discussions of there about lists. A kind of list of lists...I'll pop my hospital bag list on there and you can use/laugh at it as appropriate!

TinselBaublesMistletoe · 29/12/2008 22:17

I'm here, have a look on FB for an update. I need to catch up with the thread, which I will do tomorrow.

littleboyblue · 29/12/2008 22:19

Popping over to FB now then

theHoHoHouseofmirth · 29/12/2008 22:19

there's a message on FB from TBM She's been in again. Baby not growing (they think) but nothing happening as yet.

littlesez · 29/12/2008 22:29

Been getting stufff ready here too, only need few bits like bedding and nursing bras/tops

KT poppy is my niece's name, its lovely

I think we have Isabella Rose But still in dilemma about her initials being IRA most people just laugh and then say it doesn't matter but I'm still not sure?

Birth Plan, mmm suppose i should be sorting that out really. Still cannot decide on home birth or hospital birth so need to figure that out first.

xxx

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