due in jan on the home stretch now!! on the 1st day of christmas my true love gave to me a baby up in a tree,2 babygros,3 teddy bears,4 waddling mummies and five smelly nappies

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hi ladies thought i would be organised and start a new thread

GTDAB Endocrinologists treat anything to do with glands and hormones, they look at things like short staure and balancing out hormone levels. DD has Turners Syndrome that is why she sees an endocrinologist.

Morning LG&T - how are you doing?

Sorry to gatecrash the thread but just feeling like a bit of company!!

no. 4 due 30 January

and will be added to ds1 (5 next week) and dts (g/b) who are currently 20 mths

I am shattered and struggling and putting it down to the short age gap - I know no has said that 3 under 2 was going to be easy!! and this is before the baby has arrived

We also have the builders in doing a loft conversion so not a great deal of a chance to rest

Have had a little read through, hi Elkie - another name I know will try and keep up and be a bit more personal next time

Morning.

Thanks everyone for the sympathies etc.

Have looked at the spinning babies website, thanks for that suggestion. Don't think I could manage being upside down at the moment with head so painful, but is definitely worth a try as soon as I'm feeling better.

DH has set boys up in their room with snacks, drinks, dvds and Ds1s computer and told me to stay in bed. Am so shattered, think everything has all just caught up with me at once. Bump is really sore too from all the prodding and poking yesterday accompanied by an overnight beating from the baby. Was hoping she was trying to turn but can still feel head in my ribs this morning.

Am not worried about having a section perse. If it is the best and safest option for the baby then I would definitely go ahead. Its the recovery time and hospital stay that bother me, especially at this time of year, it would be awful being away from my boys for a few days and not sure how ds1 would cope with the massive disruption to his life.

Have done a little bit of research, but too tired to read really. Quite a few people seem to have had successful vaginal deliveries with breech babies, apparently extended breech is one of the easier ones to deliver but harder to turn. However, have also heard nasty things about episiotomies and babies with damaged neck and shoulders and oxygen deprivation, so will have to discuss the risks with the consultant thoroughly before making a decision.

External Cephalic Version sounds like an option,(if the consultant thinks baby's position is favourable for turning) although am told it has to be done around 37 weeks. Apparently, there is usually a higher than 50 percent chance of baby 'agreeing' to turn but 2.5 percent then turn straight back! Also, it can lead to fetal distress which means an immediate delivery and if that happened it would mean having baby within the next 2 weeks!

I just want it all to go away really, am far too tired to think about it at the moment. I think it was just such a shock when they told me. After 2 normal births, the last of which was really really easy, I guess I was complacent that this one would be a piece of cake.

Ds2 is still a very poorly little boy. He still needs both calpol and child neurofen to manage his temperature, but its not as high as it has been. He as also now kept everyone awake for two nights with incessant coughing making me paranoid that he is going to get pneumonia, doctor said to keep an eye on him for that reason, but don't really know what I'm supposed to be looking for.

Ds1, although poorly and exhausted from lack of sleep, is being really well behaved. Mum has returned to her sick bed and DS to work.

So that's us for the moment. Am going to try and get my head down and rest for half an hour now.

Sorry I haven't caught up on everyone else's news. Will try as soon as I'm feeling better.

Hi OOOG my lovely I am dashing out but will be back later i hope. Love to you. FWIW it was easier for me once dd was out when the twins were 20 months. At least i could move and pick them up again. Hang in there

Thanks for the link LG&T. We crossed in the post so to speak.

Read a bit of that site last night. Sounds hopeful, but only if the midwives etc know what they are doing.

The midwife who discovered the position's instant reaction was, "You know they definitely won't let you have a natural delivery now. You will have to have a cs."

However the Registrar later said it depends on which Consultant you are under as to whether or not they are willing to try it.

have a good day LG&T - I am hanging onto that thought that it will be easier when he arrives and I can move and carry etc

morning

moosemama You poor thing - I really hope you have a good restful day. Try not to worry (easy to say I know) but just concentrate on relaxing and not stressing too much. The External Cephalic Version sounds like a good option - certainly 50/50 is quite good odds.

Ignore the horrid midwifes response - she was probably just i a bad mood. Keeping fingers and toes crossed for you that baby moves into a better position. x

givethedogachristmaspud - SPD sounds painful, poor you. Not sure if that's what I've got - i'm probably just feeling sorry for myself, deffo feeling sore but not sure its something that bad - my Mum says to get used to feeling discomfort - it will be in my life for a while!

quick hello. had time to read but not to write.
lol to you all.
we are nearly there!

welcome ogs

Hi there, how is everyone today? Sorry for all the ladies with poorly wee ones. I have to say that after a great pregnancy, I am starting to get a bit fed up now. I'll be 35 weeks tomorrow, but this week I seem to have gotten huge all of a sudden. To the point where other people are commenting on it.
My back hurts, when the baby moves can be very uncomfortable...she has been breech but I'm hoping the discomfort I've been feeling in the past few days might mean she has moved? I have a doctor's appointment on Monday, so I suppose I'll find out then. Have to say, it is very reassuring to hear that so many of you have breech babies, most of them figure out how to turn don't they?

Hi everyone, just on for a quick moan .

Totally knackered today, dropped DD at nursery then met my mum in M&S for coffee, picked DD back up then came home - result, totally knackered. Had to go for a sleep on the couch whilst DD watched Ice Age (again). How can so little activity make me so tired - it's rotten.
Thank goodness I've only 10 more days til induction.
Sorry, moan over, thanks for listening

Hope everyone is ok and the aches and pains are beginning to go away. Sending "spinning" vibes to all those with posterior and breech babies.

wow that isnt long heathersmummy

Glad I'm not the only one who is fed up and tired. Makes me feel much better.

I'm really starting to struggle with looking after DD (23mo) so not sure how you cope with 20mo DTs oooggs. My major issue right now is getting any rest. She's in bed at 7pm but then I have to work most evenings for DH so am usually working until 9 or 10pm. DD is up at 5.30am/6am in the morning and doesn't sleep in the day so I feel like I am on a constant merry-go-round of activity. I wish I went out to work during the day, it would be so much nicer than working from home and entertaining a toddler at the same time. But then the grass is always greener isn't it

DH has been helping out with the mornings and trying to let me stay in bed until 7 but much as I appreciate his efforts he never actually does any jobs, they just sit in their pj's watching cbeebies, would love him to get her dressed for me and fed and things as I spend at least 20 minutes chasing her round trying to get clothes on her... oh heck, how am I going to cope with two ... but then I won't be pregnant then of course

Glad I'm not the only one who is fed up and tired. Makes me feel much better.

I'm really starting to struggle with looking after DD (23mo) so not sure how you cope with 20mo DTs oooggs. My major issue right now is getting any rest. She's in bed at 7pm but then I have to work most evenings for DH so am usually working until 9 or 10pm. DD is up at 5.30am/6am in the morning and doesn't sleep in the day so I feel like I am on a constant merry-go-round of activity. I wish I went out to work during the day, it would be so much nicer than working from home and entertaining a toddler at the same time. But then the grass is always greener isn't it

DH has been helping out with the mornings and trying to let me stay in bed until 7 but much as I appreciate his efforts he never actually does any jobs, they just sit in their pj's watching cbeebies, would love him to get her dressed for me and fed and things as I spend at least 20 minutes chasing her round trying to get clothes on her... oh heck, how am I going to cope with two ... but then I won't be pregnant then of course

evening all and welcome oogs

well, i can certainly be added to the ranks of tired and out of sorts, i feel a bit like an overtired toddler, some of the time - was nothing short of surly today at work. also, a brief look at spinning babies has suggested that maybe the small one is posterior so now that's me on my knees with the pilates ball at regular intervals for the next five weeks. at least her head is pointing the right way - i hope all your little ones - those of you with breech/transverse ones, i mean - can be convinced to flip around (gently) in good time. but still, i am feeling a bit anxious about this, even though five weeks is plenty of time...

and to further improve my mood, checked out perineal massage earlier this week and have to say, my response to it does not bode well for my ability to withstand the far more extreme stretching that january promises. don't think dp liked it much either.

oh dear, what a gloomy post. i hope you are all feeling more cheerful than i am.

Welcome oooggs

I was sick this morning - think it's partly my cold mixed with acid. But at least I'm on leave - had it to use up and ds had another audiology (hearing test) to go to. They don't think he has any hearing problem and I'm sure he doesn't but he just gets results which means he has to keep going back. Luckily we live really close to the place it's done and he went to the CM's after so I was free to have a lazy day on my own. On Monday I have DS for the day so I hope I can muster some energy to make it fun for him, but I don't know how those of you at home with other kids survive at this point.

evening all, very swollen feeling bits here too. am NOT going to have a look though . Lenni, that site is very good, really hoping someone on here who is early will put it into practice and let us know if it worked for them!

I too am really struggling with the 3-5 insomnia followed by active 19mo waking at 6. Today was a nightmare to keep awake through and now I just want to go to sleep but feel poor DP needs a bit of attention too. . actually is a bit odd. whats festive about being sad?

GTDACP Forgot to say earlier - thanks for the reassurance on labour - it is starting to prey on my mind now. I wasn't really bothered by all the interventions and things at the time, but now with the prospect of going through it all again I'm starting to feel anxious.

LenniEd not sure if this helps you - but I was told that even if your bab is ROA 2nd+ time round, it is less likely to be a problem as due to more lax muscles the baby rotates to where it needs to more easily and can even go anticlockwise. the reason it can be a prob for 1st timers is that ROA babies tend to rotate clockwise, and so have a period of time in labour being posterior and hurting lots...

I'd like to join in with feeling rotten please! Today was my last day at work but have been feeling sick and had tum pains since I got home, so mainly been in bed dropping in and out of sleep. So much for plans of a romantic eve decorating the tree with dh and having a small glass of bubbly to celebrate the start of a new era! Also feels like being at work is often less tiring than looking after 21 month ds at home so I have really mixed feelings about starting my leave!

This baby is still breech but given that the mws here don't seem to worry about that til 36 weeks, I'm going to try to put it out of my mind for the next week or so. ha!

I guess one positive thing about us all feeling a bit and out of sorts is that it is a real sign we're getting near to meeting our babies...

morning

it is tiring with a toddler isnt it. my dd is 3 years old. so glad she goes to nursery for 3 morning a week for 3 hours otherwise i would never manage.
she is very lively and doesnt do playing on her own.
i will have a look @ that website still cant work out which way baby is @ 31 weeks when i last saw midwife she was breech transverse. seeing midwife @ 36 weeks next so crossing fingers she has turned the correct way by then.
we have dhs parents down from hull for our early xmas dinner today having turkey with all the trimmings then my parents are hear for tea

I hope everyone is feeling a little happier today and that those with colds are trying to rest up - there is a nasty cold and stomach virus going around .... so keep popping those pregnancy vitamins!

Sending lots of positive and happy thoughts to those of you having a rough time!

Fourlittlefeet I am also awake between 3 - 5 most days and have to get up and go and read or watch TV or have a small snack and cup of tea, evertime I get up my husband wakes up too!!!!

My baby was breech three weeks ago and I spent all my TV watching time (1 hour a day) bouncing around on my birth ball and also did a lot of abdomen massage - massaging in a circular motion clockwise around my belly after a week of this I literally woke up one night and could feel the baby moving ino another position - so good luck ladies with breech babes.

DH has booked me in for a facial today at 12 - and then I have my cousin coming around to visit me to drop off some present s for the baby - yah!!!

Hello all,

Feeling very tired today. My legs ache so much and we have to go out soon to take dd to a Christmas lights switch on. I hope i will be able to stand, i feel like an old woman!

Spink, thanks for that. MW said something about baby being on the right isn't as much of a problem with 2nd babies. I guess everything is stretched already

I am 36 weeks but feeling more like 40 weeks. Can't believe next week i will be 37 weeks and be classed as 'term.' Knowing baby could come at anytime is quite scary!

Also, was thinking of getting these or these night dresses for the hospitol. I figured they would be good if i decide to bf or even if i don't i can still wear them.

Hello ladies.

dont have time to catch up on the post.

been at all day parent craft. Shattered. Didn't really learn anything didn't know from NCT, but nice to get to know what the birthing centre promotes etc.

Am just about to hop in Xmas shower, is Other halves (girls) Xmas do tonight, as boys are off to bournemouth post match for their xmas "piss up." Think i will be the only sober one... oh well, i'm having a lovely ickle baby.

Got a bit of heart burn today, but nothing drastic, just a little uncomfy. Hope your all well. xx