due Dec 08-the one were we are so brain dead we can't think of a thread title.

[Veggiemummy]

hey there will this be the last one do you think

Anj congrts on the twins - my girls are 3.2 and going through the most adorable phase at the moment of just loving eachothers company and playing really well together - kind of handy when you're heavily pregnant!

Anything I can help with do ask.

pixsix hows' your head today? did you go and get checked out?

I saw my MW this morning and my BP had gone up (150/90 - I booked in at 100/65) - so she sent me to hospital. Blood tests were fine tho and when I was there my BP settled so they've released me! Have to go back on Monday for another check!
Have been told to rest so am just mumsnetting without guilt for therapeutic reasons!

Traceface glad you've been released, hope your bp is still down on Monday. Lots of MNing rest sounds like a good idea. I have an appointment at 4pm with the GP but feel completely fine today so do feel a bit of an idiot to be going in as I'm sure it will be fine

Not got time to catch up properly, only read up to this morning but have to rush off to scan (nothing special, just a well being scan) and then I am legging it up to the Midlands to see my Mum for the weekend. But just wanted to say...hope it goes well
Verso, some smashing advice here and Arti's advice was peerless - but also,

Kayz, I'm exceedingly dismayed that people in RL have been saying things about you working in a supermarket and believe me I am flicking them the V's from here, because anyone who thinks it is ok do that is a Grade A tosser. It's admirable to be focused on your career and all the rest of it, and to achieve things in the workplace, but it doesn't DEFINE you, or it really shouldn't, anyway. We are all made up of so many things and what we do to earn a buck doesn't make us more, or less, valuable as a person. I don't want to sound preachy but I feel quite strongly about this. I run a cricket team and one of the many wonderful things about it is that in terms of jobs we have got some lawyers, a plasterer, a salesman, a doctor, three guys who do door security, a diplomat, a receptionist and a nurse (both male of course). No one gives a monkeys about anyone else's job (except when they need a favour ) and that is the way it should be.

Must shoot and big love to all.

Glad you're okay Traceface. Pix don't feel silly, I'm sure GP would rather you went in than not just to make sure you're okay.

I have such a bad case of pregnant brain.

Our bath mat normally lives on the side of the bath when not in use, to dry it out before being stepped onto again the next day.

This morning I neatly laid the bath mat at the bottom of the bath rather than on the loor before turning on the shower above the bath.

Looked aghast as the bath mat was quickly soaked, wondering why on earth I hadn't left it on the floor to step onto when I finished my shower like a normal-brained person!

Drove DD's to playgroup and sat in horror at a roundabout with a complete mental block. If you are at a four exit roundabout going straightahead. The lanes to your right and left are clear. The lane opposite has a car waiting in it indicating right. Who has right of way?

I'm too embarrassed to ask Dh and my brain has frozen into panic now!

Good luck with your scan LadyT. I hope your baby has turned (I know you are havinga c-section but tis still nice if they are head down).

Trace - the same thing happened to my BP with DD1. As long as it does not go any higher you have no protein in your urine and no swelling you should stay out of hospital. Good luck.

Hello everyone,
Am developing a crappy cold, feeling awful and counting down time until I can go home without actually saying I'm ill and having to faff around with illness forms, etc.

So I shall waste some time on here for a bit, though I am not sure I even feel ok enough to make coherent posts!

verso lots of luck with getting some sense out of work...hope you get some answers.

hatty I would say you have the right of way but I guess in principle it's whoever gets onto the roundabout first as you have to give way to the right? I would probably hesistate in the situation you describe in case the person going right was pushy and drove straight onto the roundabout.

Hello to all the new people!!

jumpjockey you are very naughty perving at the carpet fitters. Good to see pregnancy has not curbed the perving gene!

all the talk of PJs is confusing me. I never wear anything in bed. I guess I may have to get some (is the thinking that you will get cold breastfeeding?? Or do you all wear PJs anyway?)

God I am sure I have missed so much, but oh well not got the concentration for now to post more.

Hope everyone has a good weekend, I am off to an active birthing course tomorrow and then going for a big baby shop! Wish me luck as I am still confused by the whole thing.

summer! I don't normally wear anything either but with winter babies you need something to wear during the night feeds! Co-sleeping makes things easier but since the baby can't be under your covers you still need something on top. Now go home and dose up on paracetamol and lemon tea with honey while imagining it is a lemsip.

Trace glad you are ok and pix hope you get get the all clear too

Rosmerta good luck getting those bits of work done. I was terrible getting work done before ds was born, you are clearly a better woman

Oh no, you can't have lemsip when you are pg? Bummer

Cheers Summer I just sat there in a confused daze until the other driver took the lead and went! Thank god I don't have any complicated parking to do where we live!

Indith can I ask you about co-sleeping? I co-slept for about a week with my twins but stopped as I was too worried about dozing off and rolling on them. I had a complicated way of feeding them when they were little where I'd lie on my side, one would lie facing me on the mattress and the other would lie on my rib cages/side!

That was the middle of summer so I didn't have to worry about covers as it was absolutely boiling - we just all lay on the sheets with no covers.

But with winter babies would you take the duvets off the bed etc? So it's just the sheet, you and baby? Our house is freezing so trying to work out how to stay warm and co-sleep at least for a little while...any tips gratefully received as I can't quite picture how it all works.

ps Summer are you not freezing sleeping with nothing on! Very impressed .

Hope you're feeling better soon. WOuld add hot cocoa with marshmallows to your drinks menu as well.

Summer - I don't tend to use PJs either. However I am going to invest in some in case I have to stay in hospital and because of the night feeds issue in winter. If you have stuff to wear in hospital then you could just wear and old shirt for night feeds.

hatty the whole co-sleeping thing confuses me a bit too as you're meant to keep them away from duvets etc so it will be good to see what advice people have got.

trace glad you're doing well, make sure you keep on taking it easy...!

pix you'll be in the docs right now, fingers crossed and definitely better to get checked and get the reassurance that everything's fine.

SL hope you have a good course and the cold doesn't develop any further. Thanks for the updates about yoga baby arrivals!

Hatty meople seem to find various ways to sort themselves out. I'm going for a beside cot this time just for the space and so that ds can still come in and leap around. Some people replace all their bedding with sheets and blankets, some go for wrapping the duvet securely round themselves and having the baby next to them in a grobag. Some put the baby on top of the duvet in a grobag or fleecy pjs etc. I was a duvet wrapper with ds, always felt like I would fling him off if he was on top. You don't of course, you are so aware of them. this is a good read if you fancy it, lots if information in general and how to do it safely. The archives on here are full of threads on safe co-sleeping too.

meople? I think I just created a new species. That was possibly supposed to read "most people" but who knows?

Right I am off home now.
Had enough for the week.

Hatty maybe that's why I have a cold
Another thing, apart from colds generally being worse when you are pregnant, and that you can't take anything strong for them - sneezes "worry me" if you know what I mean!! Must do those pelvic floors

Have a good weekend everyone!

Summer never used to wear anything but had to buy a nightie to go into hospital. Then my nipples were just so sore I couldn't wear anything else without feeling very uncomfortable (which is one of the many reasons I resented visitors so much). This lasted a few months then it was a case of not wanting DS to have access to my other nipple while feeding in bed (to avoid a twiddling habit). Only stopped feeding a few weeks ago although DS still comes into our bed at some point most nights - I suppose it's just a habit now but actually you've just made me think I should take the opportunity to sleep au naturel for a few weeks before the onslaught begins again.

hatty I'll be leaving the duvet on and either putting DD on top of it or putting her right at the top of the bed so that her whole head and most of her body are uncovered.

I am glad you lot are here. Sometimes I feel like I am getting to know some of the things you are meant to do with a baby, and then sometimes I just realise I KNOW NOTHING.

Summer I've forgotten lots! I'm hoping stuff comes back to me. And what works for one baby doesn't always work for another.

But so much of it really is instinctive, you'll be amazed how many things you will naturally do which will help/soothe your little one.

Thanks so much for the thoughts on co-sleeping girls. I think rolling the duvet round me and giving the baby separate grobag etc sounds most do-able. Much as I loved feeding my girls, will be such bliss to just concentrate on one and to know that when each night feed finishes I won't be starting another one shortly afterwards in the first few weeks!

Another breastfeeding question - did anyone breastfeed after a section? I'm going to do a proper archives search on this but I remmeber the midwife telling me that milk took longer to come in following a section. I struggled a bit last time and wondered if it was due to having a section so want to be fully informed this time.

hatty no experience of it myself but have definitely read that it can take longer for your milk to come through after a section.

hatty - I did breastfeed after an emergency section. Eventually DD did exclusively breastfeed until she decided to give up on her own at 9 months. But we got off to a very rocky start, with DD losing lots of weight and being readmitted to hospital for a week - in retrospect I do wonder whether it had anything to do with the section. After DD got readmitted, I did get some tablets to get my milk going and also did lots of expressing. TBH - not convinced these were what did the trick, I think DD just got the hang of it eventually. The other factor with the section is finding a comfortable position to feed - having DD in a classic hold across my front was awkward with the scar (at least without a good cushion) and we also did feeding lying down at the beginning, so you may need to experiment a bit with that. I'd say the main lesson from my experience is get help straight away if you are having problems. There are a few things that can be done (incl drugs etc), you just need to make sure you do them before the LO gets into trouble...

Cheers girls, Invisible you poor thing, that must have been worrying having your DD being readmitted. Interesting that you think the section might have affected your milk supply as well..

I ended up accepting top ups in first few nights with the girls - they just didn't stop feeding and I think I was too exhausted after the section to make that much milk. No one ever mentioned tablets, will look into that this time.

I also managed to build up breast milk supplies eventually, but had to give them a couple of bottles of formula a day throughout the time I fed them.

It caused a lot of grief between me and DH as well as he was desperate for the DD's not to have any formula. But I think the section did slow everything down with the milk coming in - plus finding the time in the day to rest, eat and drink enough to make double milk!

Really hoping it will be easier this time around. I should look into it properly as I'm almost setting myself up to fail by assuming that the section did cause probs and will again..

Posting from phone, BP up a little and some protein in urine so doc said go to ADU. On my way there, fingers crossed they'll say all is well and send me home. More later.....

Pix thinking of you, loads of luck and really hope all is okay. Let us know how you get on.

good luck pixsix . Let us know how you get on.