Due December 08 - time to start blooming and glowing.

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New thread lovely ladies

Rosmerta my DH is at a race tonight so i'm following your lead and having pizza!

veggie glad I'm not the only one! Also, pleased you got to hear the heartbeat.

Interesting article in Practicing Midwife, basically saying that 'lying in' after birth should be brought back instead of women being told just to drop & get on with it!

yeah in one of my nursing journals this month there was a little thing about having this time may help not only with bonding and physical recovery but also postnatal depression. In many cultures the new mum is treasured and is left to feed and hold the baby while other women around her look after her and her home.

The birth center where i had DS made it a stipulation that you had to agree to a 7 day lie in or they wouldn't take you on.

I think that sounds like heaven!

What race is your dh doing, veggie? If you don't mind me asking?

oh it's just a local 10km running road race here in Derby. It started at 7.30 so he should be home soon but i think he may pop out to the pub with his friends afterwards. I have a nice apple pie in the freezer ready to cook to refuel him (well just over half is for me of course).

That's what dh was doing last night. Though his popping to the pub led to a late night as his finance director put his card behind the bar! And I think dh got a bit nervous as he found out he's got a place in the marathon next year!

In the end DH bought a friend back here with some beers and more pizza yay!! DH is doing a race in London in september called the rat race he has been wanting to do it for a couple of years but we were always away OS for the weekend it was on. He is quite excited but a bit nervous.

Rosmerta is yours doing London marathon, DH and i did it a few years ago, lots of hard work and training but well worth it he will love it!

Bad news I'm afraid, baby died

They think it was recent - everything looked perfect except no hb. I've had mifeprostone & will go back on monday to be induced.

OH Minster, I am so sorry to hear that. You must be devastated, you poor thing. I hope Monday goes as well as possible for you - I'll be thinking of you. Hope DH and you can take care of each other over the next few weeks and months.

God bless XXXX

Minster I am so sorry - I just saw your other thread about the bfing question.

PLease take care of yourself...

Jesus look at me - obviously I didn't mean smiley face - shit

Oh Minster I'm so terribly sorry for your loss.

Minster so so sorry, and also a little angry that they still thought you should wait til next week for this. I was so hoping your scan would just be a reassurance one.

Minster I am so sorry to hear that. And LittlePeanut very sorry to hear your news too.

minster also feel very angry for you that they were going to make you wait til next week for a scan.

Oh,minster. I am so so so sorry for your loss. It's heartbreaking. Let some of your anger and hurt out at the NHS if it helps - they have been spectacularly dreadful to you and a strongly-worded letter or several wouldn't hurt. I am so very sorry to hear this about your baby - but in some ways I'm glad you had the scan and didn't endure limbo for another week (I don't mean that to sound awful - just know what missed m/cs are like from experience and couldn't bear the waiting myself).

Minster so very sorry to hear of your loss .

I agree with Verso that a strongly worded letter, if/when you feel up to it, is a good idea. How dare they leave you to fret for another week. What if you had not been able to afford a private scan? I had poor treatment a couple of years ago on the NHS (though nothing like as bad as this) and failed to complain, which I now bitterly regret.

Hope you are finding some comfort in your lovely family this evening. XXX

Hello all just catching up as not posted for an age.

minster & littlepeanut so sorry to hear of you losses. It must be awful my heart goes out to you both.

Life here has been so busy, DD has taken to sleeping worse than a newborn since switching from a cot to a bed. Unfortunately we can't go back to the cot as she was throwing herself out in the night and was in serious danger of hurting herself.

Have had a huge bust up with a friend too, and looks like our friendship is over which has upset me no end but she has said things that I can't forgive her for.

Got 20 week scan on Thurs, and consultant next month to see if they will let me have a normal delivery or another section.

Off now to induldge in some Hargen Dass Strawberry Cheesecake ice-cream!

Minster am so very sorry for your loss there is nothing I can say only I am thinking of you and your family.

minster, I am so very sorry for you. I hope you and your dh are taking care of each other

Minster . I too think you've been treated very badly over this. Please look after yourself (and allow yourself to be taken care of).

Will be thinking of you on Monday.

minster i am in tears and just so so sorry to hear your news . I am extremely pissed off on your behalf for the treatment you have received from the NHS. . My thoughts are with you and your DH for tomorrow.

Minster as a ex-NHS worker (not in maternity) i also believe that when you are ready you should write a letter or contact your local hospital PALS office (Patient Advocacy Liaison service) the frustrating thing as a nurse i found was that any treatment a patient received that i didnt agree with, apart from having a rant at the people involved, i was always told that nothing could be done unless the patient complained.

However i think you need to give yourself sometime or ask a family member to write it for you. I know you may not be thinking about this right now but apart from a meek sorry this could help other people in future. I realize the early scan wouldn't have prevented your loss but it would have eased your stress and this can unfortunately effect how you handle future pregnancies, for at least the fact that it may be hard to trust health professionals in future.

When you next are pregnant (and you will be) i think it is important to let your next midwife know about this situation.