Due June 08: less of the hens hatching, more of the cows milking?

[bitofadramaqueen]

Lets hope it's not too long before everyone is hatched and milking season is in full swing!

Essie leaving it to DH sounds like a brilliant plan (although not the broken cord and clamp etc obviously).

josey, so sorry to hear about Olivia's setback but fingers crossed that she's back on track again and heading home for the weekend

can't remember who asked, but yes to the question about putting vaseline on baby's bottom to get rid of meconium - and it works an absolute treat!

we tend to change alex mid-feed as it wakes him up to finish his feed properly - if we change him at the end of the feed it wakes him up and then we have problems settling him again (obviously only applies to night feeds!)

question from me - think i have got thrush (v itchy ), anyone know if it's safe to use canesten pessaries/cream after stitches (birth 11 days ago)

my stiches seem to be healing nicely but terrfied of putting anything inside me at the moment (and hugely impressed at those even contemplating a sex life at the moment - ohmigod!!)

hi all, I'm sorry I've not ben around much.

Josey, so glad to hear Olivia's back out of ICU, really praying hard for you thatshe'll be able to come home at w/e.

Fingers crossed for all of you still waiting - it's definitely going to happen soon

Morning all!

josey I completely missed your message yesterday, so glad to hear that Olivia is out of intensive care.

Off to mw for sweep - fingers crossed!

DQ - I'm still here! Good luck with your sweep, the midwife is coming to my house sometime this morning (could be any time) bit nervous about it especially as my lovely midwife is on her hols so don't know who it will be.

Josey - fingers crossed for Olivia still coming home on sunday.

Good luck on your sweeps dramaqueen & ktpie! I had mine yesterday and I'm really hoping it's going to get lo moving. I had cramps after the sweep as they said, but I don't know what it should feel like now if it's working. Don't have any labour signs yet

Can't remember who was talking about constipation, but the best thing I have ever used is syrup of figs, which you can buy in a bottle from the chemist. It's amazing stuff and has always worked for me when all else has failed!

Thanks allnew hope it turns into labour for you.

its been a while since i posted - been in a bit of a sleep-deprived fog! but coming out the other side now. last night theo and esther woke up just once between 11 and 7! it was fab. it is the third night of doing gina ford's bath/bed routine and it is working a treat. i also took theo to an osteopath because he was so unsettled and that has helped too. also they are 7 weeks old now so all those combined has resulted in more sleep for me!

things are so good i said to dh last night 'shall we just not bother with contraception and leave it in god's hands?' i am bfing twins though so obviously it is unlikely i will ov for a good while. but i am 31 next week so have no time to hang around!

congrats to all who have had their babies - there have been ,loads since i last l,ogged on to mn! lovely to see.

more later - feding now hence the terrible typing!

Neenz, please don't rely on breast feeding as a method of contraception!

A friend of dh's was breast feeding twins and ended up having her third child a month before her twins' 1st birthday! She loved every minute of it (had a 4th child the following year) but bloody hard work!

Btw, love the idea that you're running out of time at 31 - you're a spring chicken! I'm 36 and need IVF to conceive but am still hoping to have another 3 kids if poss!

Neenz - good to hear from you, I was wondering how you were getting on. Glad the twins are starting to sleep well.

Morning all.

Thanks for all the messages and congrats to Hedgehog.

Good luck dramaqueen and ktpie - hope the sweeps do their thing.

Anyone having trouble with their DHs unused to their wives being a bit tetchy. Have just been told that I have been a tad difficult this week . I did point out that perhaps having to give birth and have my nipples chewed off and having to get up every 3 hours to do a feed would make anyone slightly irratable. Also, our water decided to cease up once again - great timing. . Sometimes I really do wonder where I got him from .

Hi everyone I'm back. Feeling a bit deflated after mw visit. Started well, it was the sensible mw instead of the mad as a brush one, and while I was waiting I had two or three short episodes of back pain that I hadn't had before.

Had my sweep, but head isn't anymore engaged than it was last week (3/5) and my cervix has shortened a wee bit (2cm) but still closed. The earliest they would book an induction is Wed but no available appointments until Sat night next week. Good news is I get to have a scan pre-induction (next Friday) and after they start the induction process on Saturday, they will let me go home to see how things progress. (Assuming no problems obviously).

mellymell sorry you're DH not being great this week. Mine is used to me being tetchy so not something I've experienced!!

Good to hear from you neenz, echo the sentiments that at 31 you're a mere babe, but its great that things are going so well you feel able to just leave things to chance.

DH has taken the day off today so I think I might drag him off to the cinema after lunch.

Good luck ktpie - let us know how you get on. Sweep was v uncomfortable but over in a flash.

LOL Mellymell - yes I think you have every right to be a bit irritable!

Hi Spongebrain, I think the reason I don't want to use contraception is cos I quite like the idea of having another baby next year [gone totally mad emoticon]. Maybe not just before the twins' first birthday tho...

I suppose cos I needed Clomid to conceive these two (due to very long cycles) I don;t think I will OV again soon. But I know having a baby (or two!) is the best cure for feritily problems so can't rely on the fact that I won't OV. We shall see! Not that we are having sex again yet anyway... we tried about three weeks ago but I was shocked that my stithes still hadn't healed. I thought cos I wasn't sore that they had healed but they hadn't and they still haven't. Bummer!

I also quite like the idea of having just one baby. As wonderful as the DTs are, they are bloody hard work and I just don't get so much of that special one to one time that i imagine you get from having a singleton.

Thanks for all your congratulations. Seen MW this morning and she is very happy with him.

Milk came in last night and so sleeping was interesting.

I know the nappys question has been answered but I have one of my own - is anyone else using reusables? I am finding that he needs changing more often with these now than he did with the disposables we used in hospital - is this normal & ok?

Good luck to all those having sweeps - I am not sure whether the consultant that I saw on Monday did a sweep but the exam she did was tres uncomfortable but it did kick start everything!!

allnew - sorry, meant to say fingers crossed for you! I've had no symptoms at all after the sweep so bit

morning all. (just)

Congratulations to Mellymell and Hedgehog we had noticed you were AWOL Mel, but remembered you were in for induction, so were expecting your announcement!

BDQ sorry about your disappointing MW visit, and at the delay in your induction date. allnew good luck with labour signs...

ktpie good luck with your sweep.

Am now officially in the overdue crew. boo.

Two new baby announcements - congrats!

Fraser has just had a poo - the first one in 36 hours, so I'm glad I caught it before it could spill everywhere. He's so different from DS1 who pooed pretty much every feed. I'm definitely prefering this!

Josey - glad O is out of intensive care, and that you and DH can burp her. And I'm not surprised to hear about a new and less than improved stitching technique since I'm so much worse off than with my episiotomy last time.

neenz - hats off to you for even thinking about having another kid at this point! After I had DS1 I spent two months swearing he'd be an only child.

As for thinking about birth control already - my theory is that it's going to be horrible the first few times no matter how long you wait so might as well get that over with as soon as possible and get back to normal. (Within reason - I'm not planning on anything until 6 weeks postpartumn and that's only if my fanjo has felt fine for a couple weeks by then).

Is that right Aberdeen about sex being horrible first few times? Why, if stitches have healed? And does having sex now makes it easier to have sex later IYSWIM?

Hedgehog - I am using reusables and change mine at every feed (every three hours) or I find they are prone to leak. Sometimes they leak anyway (cos the terries don't quite fit inside the wraps sometimes) but I have found that if I change them every three hours the leaks are less. I found the disposables I used for the first fortnight leaked more.

Morning all - All well here Fleur and I had lie in today as family have gone out shopping

Sybilvimes- re jaundice, Fleur had severe jaundice on coming out of hospital. There are certain levels of it. Most babies are born with a bit thta doesnt affect them and it disappears ina few days on its own, others have a little more and drs recommend putting them in sunlight often to help it. Other babies who have more severe cases will need help to get rid of it as did Fleur, this means they could be taken into hospital to have phototherapy, Fleur was in for 2 days under a blue light. Also a lot of people think jaundice is only caused by the babies liver not being developed fully and the bilubirina, this is not true, Fleurs was due to her swallowing my blood as she was born and the fact that I have O+ antibodies and she has A+ antibodies.
Hope this helps you and dont worry im sure they are just checking the levels and if they are high it doesnt necessarily mean hospital, Fleur was sent home with still high levels and ive been sunbathing her!!!

Re contraception, mine at the moment is easy NO WAY AM I HAVING SEX!!!!
Stiches still painful and i got DP to have alook down there the other day and got slightly worried when he proclaimed are you meant to have four holes down there!!! So think they may have opened up so seeing dr again!!!

Amberc -with you on iron tablet related constipation, i have a good mind to stop taking them!!!!

Dylans mum - Fleurs latch is the same!!! I have to get dp in to help sometimes!!!

Josey - HOpe you can still take olivia home on SUn

Re nappies, I change Fleur mid feed too especially if she is dirty at night cause this wakes her to eat more, I also find that she doesnt like having a dirty nappy.

I have qs now too!!! 1. Re nappy rashes, Fleur has like peeling skin round nappy area looks sore but she doesnt complain I have sudacrem , any one else experienced this
2.I m finding it difficult to interpret fleur when she sometimes sits and grunts and really strains cries at times, I have eliminated, feeding, nappy wet/dirty, and she has been winded. For example at 5.30 am this morning after feed, nappy change and winding pooing, she still was making noise like straining for a poo, but she has no problems other times of day. She wont settle back to sleep til she is worn out Could it be wind?

Congrats to those who have popped and vibes to those who havent, not many left now

The midwife has just been, it was one I have had before who totally fails to put me at ease, she seems efficient just not such a good bedside manner. Baby is now more engaged 2/5 but when she did the sweep she said my cervix didn't seem ready. Normally they would just book me in for an induction next friday but my blood pressure was high so they are coming back on monday to check me again, possibly do another sweep, and book an earlier induction if my blood pressure is still high. I think it was only high because I spent all morning stressing about them coming then she wasn't exactly calming! Anyhow no labour symptoms here either DQ looks like we will be waiting it out together!

Welcome to the overdue club LauraT!

Better go and have some lunch then maybe a nap after all that stress!

Hello all,

I had my tooth out and apart from feeling a bit bruised today it's all feeling alot better!!!
Harvey had hip hip scan today and one is not as well developed as the other but it's not dislocated. The dr wasn't worried but I'll have to wait and see what the peads say at the end of july.

Josey sorry to hear about Olivias set back.

Neenz Glad to hear I'm not the only broody. We decided that if we have a four bed house in five years we will have another but I know it's very unlikely. Really I need to go to uni and then get a job!

Neenz, it's normal to expect sex to hurt the first time after having a baby. When you expect it to hurt it usually does as you get tense. I felt fine after the first time after dd1 and that was when she was five weeks old and I'd had stitches too.

Neenz - sex definitely doesn't feel right after having a baby but last time I found it got a bit better each time until I was back to normal about three months after DS1 was born. I think the stitches mean that there's scar tissue there and that will need to be 'worn in' somehow. So yes, I wouldn't worry too much if it's uncomfortable, just try again and see if it gets better.

Isn't the advice for sex after baby "lubricate and intoxicate"?

Paro - you're very brave, or at least your DH is. There's no way I'm letting DH take a look at my stitches until I know I'm healed! I used a mirror to peek and see how I was healing and then got the midwife to look.

Afternoon everyone, Neenz good to hear from you, and that you are sounding so up too! Although 31 is nothing (sniff, I'm 36 in August, sniff).

Congratulations Mellymel and Hedgehog, wonder how Poppy is getting on.

I'm now onto trying evening primrose oil to see if that helps - taking the capsules orally and ahem, internally. Had a few more twinges, but nothing serious. I WANT a June baby not a July one!!!!!!!

AberdeenH and Josey, I wonder (hope!) if the new unimproved stitching is only in your neck of the woods? Hope it hasn't progressed further south yet. Josey, really hope Olivia gets home this weekend.

I can't believe you are all contemplating the sex question. Are you mad!!! Dh saw the dr about a vasectomy yesterday and was told he had to wait until lo at least a year old. I told him not to worry about what we were going to use in the meantime as there is no way anything is going to happen any time soon! Mind you Jamie's head was 36 cm, and I felt every mm of that!