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Due June 08: A few eggs have hatched, we wish the rest would GET CRACKING!!!

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systemsaddict · 10/06/2008 15:15

Let's hope the rest of the eggs get cracking very soon!

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needahand · 19/06/2008 10:52

Gongrats ali and widgeon

Good luck Sophie

Sponge so sorry you are having a tough time. Big hugs for you. So what you didn't conceive naturally, you now have a baby which is the main thing. Re natural birth, I had one this time, but my first birth with DD I had EVERY drug in the book. This time I didn't but still felt like a wimp. In the long run whether you had a great birth or not doesn't matter, what matters is that you have a little baby whom you love. Re feeding I don't have any advice but I am sure the professionals will. Even if you had to bottle feed him it wouldn't be the worst thing. Think about that most babies in France are bottle fed because we just don't do breastfeeding, it is a cultural thing. Arguably you could say that most french people are sane and healthy.

I know issues such as feeding take so much of our mind at the moment because that is all we do, but really in the grand scheme of thing is doesn't matter that much..

needahand · 19/06/2008 10:57

Good luck PP and Looney I hope it all goes well.

Welcome sarahpo. I think the water breaking in public thing is in fact quite unusual so I wouldn't worry too much.

I have finished the catching up now (6 pages!!!) so will sign off. See you all later.

thegreenfairy · 19/06/2008 11:23

sponge you poor thing. You are not a failure. Your body has been through a stressful experience and you're catching up. It will take time.
Have you spoke to a BF counsellor? Alex could have bad wind - Storm latches for a second and then pulls away if she's got wind. You could also try expressing using a hand pump to get your milk production up if they think that's the problem.
As for falling asleep, I found dabbing Storm with a cold wet flannel helped to keep her awake. I also stripped her down, sometimes even to her nappy, to stop her from getting cosy.
Do your boobs feel full? Or quite floppy? If they are really full Alex may be struggling with too strong a flow - another reason to pull away or get frustrated. If they are floppy you may well need to increase your milk production, but there are lots of websites with tips on how to do this.
If it comes to the crunch and BF just doesn't work for you guys then you are NOT A FAILURE. You are doing your absolute best for your little boy and that's what matters.
Have you phoned La Leche/ local BF group? I ended up weeping on the phone to La Leche but they were v helpful.
Also, day three/ four were some of the hardest for us - maybe things will pick up soon. I think when the milk comes in it can be a frustrating time.

PP looney good luck!

needahand thanks for the sling tip - great idea. Also -lovely baby pic!

josey great news olivia is moving. I have hotslings in size 4 and 5 for me and DH and they are great - really snug so she feels very safe and womblike. Highly recommended. You can get them cheap on ebay.

debs great slide show.

So many babies now!

goingfor3 · 19/06/2008 11:28

Josey Great to hear Olivia is in another room now and you are able to look after her more. Good luck with learning how to do the tube.

Sponge As others have said you are not a faliure, you have created and grown a baby, you can't do anything more amazing than that!!! Hopefully you will start feeling better soon.

Good luck to those in labour.

Fab pictures Debs, Ethan looks gorgeously chubby and cuddley!

Harvey is growing really fast at the moment. His 0-3 are too small for him as he's so long. The 3-6 is very wide on him but he needs it for the length, I've tumbled dried all of his new clothes to try to shrink to size (probably why the 0-3 is small!!!). Having a boy after two girls is a good excuse for new clothes shopping for baby. I also put away the moses basket last night as he couldn't stretch his arms out. He slept for 5 hours without a feed last night which was lovely and then only had a 10 mins feed before sleeping for another 2 hours. Harvey also smiled a few times this morning which was really delightful.

pleasechange · 19/06/2008 12:19

Welcome sarahpo - there are still quite a few of us in the same boat as you, although sounds like a few more are going to have their babies over the next couple of days! I'm due on 24/6 and am starting to get impatient - I'd convinced myself baby would be out by this weekend, but there are no signs as yet.....

sponge - really feel for you after reading your post. I can imagine how disappointed you are about the bf, but as others have said there are loads of healthy ff babies and you are in no way to blame. Maybe the bf will come, fingers crossed for you

Congrats amberc!! and good luck to looney and PP!!

LauraT · 19/06/2008 12:27

good luck PP and looney exciting times!

sarahpo welcome! Hoorah, someone due after me!(26th) maybe I won't be last after all! I am trying not to get too impatient, and organising lots of things to do in the meantime!

had a terrible nights sleep last night got back up for 2 hours, lots of BH, albeit not particularly painful, just tightenings - hoping it's a sign of impending something though...

Josey good news that Olivia is out of ITU hope that you get on well with the tube training today.

poppy34 · 19/06/2008 12:59

go out for a morning and it all kicks off.. good luck pp and looneysarahpo hi and am so with you on the feeling heavy thing - walking as if you'd be better dragging your knuckles on the floor is a very elegant look I find.

rolf lol at your ds story.

Had bad night with aches and pains in lower back, top of my legs and groin so hoping its a sign. did think about getting up to post and wish I had as would have felt better to moan with you laurat. If not its a sign of baby that I'm getting old...

now off to look at baby name books again as having second thoughts re name

poppy34 · 19/06/2008 13:00

and josey glad to hear olivia is moving on although do feel for you with the faff around the eeg results etc

aberdeenhiker · 19/06/2008 13:14

greenfairy sounds like Storm is feeding really well and getting lots of hind milk. Good for you!

spongebrain & Amberc I'm sorry Alex & Luke are struggling with feeding - breastfeeding isn't easy for babies and if you need to give him a bottle please don't feel bad about it. You are totally not a failure - I know women who breastfed their first and then their second refused it - nothing to do with the mums.

SarahPo - welcome! The last few weeks of waiting are the hardest!

josey I'm so into slings For constant use I'm hooked on the www.closebabycarrier.com/ which has been lovely for Fraser. My hotsling is great for short periods of time, but not good for hours on end...

PiggyPenguin · 19/06/2008 13:42

Hey everyone, lots of sympathy for those of us who are having problems feeding. I think it does take a while for both you and the baby to get to grips with breast feeding - it is painful and stressful and you feel so guilty when the baby doesn't seem to thrive. I think that people fail to tell you how difficult it can be, so big hugs to those who are struggling.

Jamie had the red dust 'brick dust' I think my midwife called it in his nappy too. The mw seemed to think it was something that happened during the colostrum phase naturally and would be flushed out by the milk. And we haven't had it since the milk came in.

I'm really confused by the advice on how long to feed for, surely we all produce milk at different speeds? I am lucky if Jamie manages 10 minutes in one sitting and he definitely wouldn't do 20-30 at a session. I guess I have to wait until he's weighed to see if this is sufficent but he's not fussing for food and pushes me away if I try to feed more so I don't see what option I have. As Ernest said, you can take a horse to water...

ktpie · 19/06/2008 14:07

Hope everyone struggling with feeding is having more luck. I can't offer any advice! Will be asking you lot in a few weeks (surely it should be out by then!).

Where is DQ today? Maybe she is in labour!

bitofadramaqueen · 19/06/2008 15:08

I'm here ktpie ! Been shopping for a few bits and pieces (in the vain hope that a trek up and down princes st might set things off...) Thought I'd take advantage of the sales and get a few bargain t-shirts/vests for myself post-labour. Cant imagine that last years summer tops are going to fit. Hard to work out sizes so I wont be taking the tags off to try them on till the baby arrives!

Also sorry to hear about those struggling. Sponge can I just say that the measure of a good mum is not whether or not she gave birth without pain relief or was able to bf, IMHO its about what you teach a child and what kind of person you bring them up to be. I know that's really easy for me to say but I hope you're feeling a bit better today and are able to get support from mw/HV/bf counsellor/MN.

Welcome sarahpo - also have lots of empathy re: the feeling very heaving. My 'undercarriage' (which I always seem to be talking about) gets very achy when I've been on my feet for more than about 20 mins.

Can feel the baby moving a lot today, very low down below my belly button. Despite a few scares its managed to stay flat till now, but I keep thinking that now I'm on the final stretch the LO is going to push it straight out. REally hoping it's a shoulder I can feel pushing against my tummy and that the baby hasn't swung round back to back. Finally managed to get round to blowing up a gym ball, but cant remember what I'm supposed to do with it. Periodically been bouncing up and down on it??!?!?!

Sarahpo · 19/06/2008 15:18

Thanks everyone for the welcome...when i am walking i actually feel sometimes like the whole thing is just going to drop down and land outside! I know that sounds totally ridiculous but boy this bubba is a heavy one.

Re: BF same i will be asking all the questions too...it seems like bfeeding is not easy at all, i had just assumed that nature would provide but obviously boobs/babies sometimes have other ideas. Good luck to all the new mums and hang in there for those who are waiting like me.

ktpie · 19/06/2008 15:40

I've been trying to figure out which way round the baby is, I know it's head down from the scan I had the other day. A trainee midwife decided the back was to my left on tuesday until I pointed out that something small kept sticking out on that side (a foot maybe) which the proper midwife could feel so they decided it was the other way, then last night something small started sticking out on the other side so it is either doing the splits or keeps moving round. Don't think it has dropped at all, all seems to be sticking out the front still.
I've been trying to sit on the ball as much as I can. I just sit on it and watch TV, maybe bounce a bit!

thegreenfairy · 19/06/2008 15:43

josey re slings - how tall are you and how big is olivia? I have just taken Storm out in our hotsling for the first time and realise that the one I bought for me is too small.

It's a size four and even if it didn't fit you it might fit your DH. Would you like it? I feel it's the least I can do and I really would like to help in some way.

Email me your address at roseedotbrownatgmaildotcom and I'll post it to you.

Even if it's not right for now it might do later?

ktpie · 19/06/2008 15:47

Just realised no one has updated the list with the most recent arrivals. Sophie normally sorts it out but she is otherwise engaged today! (hope it is all going well for her and she is cuddling her baby right now!)

29/05/08 - neenz, esther and theo
18/05/08 - makecakes, Cecily jean Olivia
20/05/08 - Goingfor3 Harvey
24/05/08 - Katyjo Mia Joanne
29/05/08 - pyjamrama William James Frederick
30/05/08 - Paromapu, Fleur
01/06/08 - greenfairy - Storm Josephine Frances
04/06/08 - Josey - Oilivia Margaret
05/06/08 - ernest - Adele
05/05/08 - tassisssss - Rebecca Grace
07/06/08 - Aberdeen Hiker - Fraser
08/06/08 - Lorrettah - Harry
11/06/08 - Sybilvimes - James Dominic
11/06/08 - Kif - boy
11/06/08 - Lazylou - boy
11/06/08 - systemaddict - Cailin Rose
11/06/08 - Needahand - SJ
11/06/08 - Emotionalwreck - Sophie Louie
12/06/08 - Basilbrush - Rose Madeline
14/06/08 - Dymansluckymum - Anwyn Crystal Anne
15/06/08 - Rolf - Girl
15/06/08 - spongebrainbigpants - Alexander
15/06/08 - Amberc - Luke Joseph
16/06/08 - Essie - boy
17/06/08 - Debinaustria - Ethan
17/06/08 - Alipalli - Peter
18/06/08 - wigeon - Eva

Still waiting:
06/06/08 - nettiehay -(first baby)
07/06/08 - mellymel -(DS 14 months)
12/06/08 - Pregnant Penguin -(1st baby) BOY
14/06/08 - PearTart - (DD1 is 19 months) GIRL
15/06/08 - Jules43 -(1st baby)
16/06/08 - xxgemmalou22xx (first Baby
17/06/08 - fungle - (2nd baby)girl(got DD4)
18/06/08 - Josie57 -(ds1 13 months, mc sep 07)
18/06/08 - hedgehog1979 -(first baby)
20/06/08 - poppy34 -(2 m/c, one ds lost at 21 weeks) (GIRL)
20/06/08 - whinegums - (first baby) BOY
21/06/08 - HeyBaby07 -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - Hoggle -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - Upsidedowncake -(1DS 27 m, ep Aug 07) GIRL
22/06/08 - bitofadramaqueen -(first baby)
22/06/08 - ktpie -(first baby)
23/06/08 - looneytune -(DS 5 yrs) BOY
24/06/08 - puddock -(first baby)
24/06/08 - allnew - (first baby)
25/06/08 - Bun2 (DD 5 yrs) Girl
26/06/08 - LauraT (first baby)
26/06/08 - Claphamkitten -(first baby)
27/06/08 - sophiewd -(DD 22 months)

Think that is right, just Amber (sorry if I missed anyone), this is too much pressure for me, come back Sophie!

bitofadramaqueen · 19/06/2008 15:54

Oh well done ktpie . I didn't even think of that. I wonder if your trainee mw is being trained by my mw - she confidently talked about the baby's back being on my right hand side when it has been the other way around for yonks!

ktpie · 19/06/2008 16:03

I think she was fairly new to it all, she only looked about 16!
I don't know how they can tell, it all seems the same to me until it sticks something right out!

bitofadramaqueen · 19/06/2008 16:07

Very true. I've got my mw appt tomorrow, so looking forward to that. Dont know why though - my mw drives me bonkers! I think I'm just hoping head much more engaged and she'll say - 'ooh, you'll definitely meet your baby by the weekend...' -

looneytune · 19/06/2008 16:08

Joshua James (JJ) arrived at 2.50pm, weighing 7lb 11.5oz

I'm knackered but overjoyed Catch up when we're properly dressed etc. xxx

Essie3 · 19/06/2008 16:21

Hello all! Sponge - I'm really struggling today, serious baby blues, desperately tired, at least he's feeding...but I wish he wasn't . I mean, I want to breastfeed, but I also want sleep more than anything in the world. I really hope things pick up for you - you're not a failure, you're one of the biggest success stories on here as far as I'm concerned!

Penguin - hoping to hear soon? Felt so bad for giving birth without you .

Typing this with cabbage leaves in my massive, painful boobs, and fighting the urge to sleep. LO isn't though - he's fast asleep and I was expecting him to wake to feed soon. Why doesn't he do this at night?!

Ok, finally feel up to posting the birth story - I was pretty traumatized but I'm coming to terms with things. I'll do it in bullet points!

Friday - most of you remember me mentioning that I started having contractions, had a show. Went in, was monitored, all well, sent home with paracetamol. (Ha ha ha.)
Uncomfortable until the early hours of Saturday morning. Then got up on Saturday, and nothing! Midwife came to visit, no contractions, and a day of waiting. Went to bed.
3.30am Sunday morning, woke with contractions. Quite painful, took some paracetamol (ha ha ha), they continued all night and all morning. Phoned midwife on Sunday morning, and she said to go in when they got too painful. Er, any pain is too painful for me! Waited, had lunch, went in around 3 ish on Sunday. Examined - only 1cm dilated. No sign of the waters. Suffered a bit for a while. Then got given a tens machine, which helped a lot - should have used mine earlier!
Examined again about 9.30-10ish, still only 1cm dilated, and sorely disappointed, tired and in pain. Was offered the night on the antenatal ward, or a trip home for the night. Decided to go home. Phoned my friend Paula, my 'on call doula' (close friend, ex-midwife). Went home, ran a bath. That helped a bit. Got out of the bath, slapped the Tens on, and tried to go to bed around 12.30, but quite soon was in a lot of pain. Tens bouncing around on the floor! DH called the labour ward, who told him to bring me in, but then, sort of during a toilet trip (!), I went into total shock, screaming, stammering, shaking uncontrollably, and in agony. DH decided he would not be able to get me to the car even, and called the labour ward who recommended 999, which he then did. The lovely ambulance men managed to get my knickers on (I was on the landing), and get me to the ambulance, where I was given gas and air which didn't help much because I wasn't taking it properly, but it did make a small difference. Taken to the ward, examined, still only 1cm (and now hysterical), and was offered - and given - diamorphine. Between that and the gas and air managed to sleep. DH slept in the same room. Mad dreams about jelly beans and psychadelic flowers...
Morning - had breakfast, still labouring. Not a great deal happened, because the labour ward was really busy (with people more than 1cm ) and with the planned c-sections. Became hungry, DH went looking for food, was then offered lunch, which I ordered, and was then told not to have any, then was brought some, which was whipped away so that they could examine me. (This was a tad distressing - the hunger, that is.)
Examined - hallelujah, 5cms!! So things got going and the midwife, Sarah, introduced herself just as my waters broke. She also told me how to take gas and air properly. Examined me, and only the ?fore waters had broken, and they had meconium in them...
Laboured for at least an hour on gas and air (time became hazy), and then was offered an epidural. I was perfectly keen on this from the start so said yes. Given the epidural, although both hands injured in an attempt to put a line in, and that was uncomfortable from the start! MW was going to break the rest of my waters, but they went of their own accord (still meconium stained).
Things progressed, although there was a slight concern because the baby's heartbeat was dropping with the contractions. Examined regularly, he seemed to be back to back. He then had a clip put on his head to check his heartbeat, and then an obstetrician came in to give him a blood test on his head, I think. By this stage, I really wanted to push but wasn't allowed.
Finally, at around 8.20 was allowed to start pushing. An anaesthetist arrived to top up my epidural but for some bizarre reason (I'm quite proud of myself!) I said no! I pushed for just under an hour with only my gas and air, and Iestyn Seiriol arrived at 9.14. I tore, unfortunately.
Then...was given a shot to get the placenta out, but it wasn't really happening, and I was asked to push, which I tried, and then the cord snapped, turning the room into a butcher's shop. Baby was being weighed etc, couldn't move, cord was clamped so couldn't move my legs (in case that shifted), and couldn't turn because of the drip, or bend my arm because of the painful line (right hand, annoyingly), or get my head comfortable. It felt like ages before they brought him to me and I wailed and moaned the whole time about not being able to take any more. (True.) Eventually they put him on my breast for me but he wasn't interested. Still waiting to go to theatre. After 1 and a half hours, surgeon was free, and the baby showed signs of wanting to suckle but wasn't allowed, and I wanted to eat, but wasn't allowed (nothing for over 12 hours!). Given a nasty drink which I immediately threw up (and more) in theatre. Given a full on epidural - the first one was ok because my legs could still move a little but this one was a total block - and the surgeon pulled out the placenta with what seemed to be both hands and stitched me up. It was totally the worst part. Finally taken back to the postnatal ward and reunited with my baby who fed immediately.

Sorry - that was really long, but rather cathartic! Apparently, I did well, because actual labour wasn't all that long, but the prelabour was days. The worst bit was the trauma of the surgery, and the lack of sleep. I was weepy about it for ages, but like I say I'm coming to terms with it a bit now.

So, now, very very tired, very blue, painful breasts and fanjo, and basically in total shock but still in love with him! He's feeding well (I'm the one who's struggling.) I just feel as if I want one night off to catch up - I didn't sleep at all on the ward afterwards, and so I feel as if I haven't slept for days. (True!)

Will now go and have something to eat, a lie down, and hopefully he'll wake and feed. He managed 3 hour gaps last night, but this gap is nearer 4. Please, please that he does longer gaps tonight.

Will post again soon!

Essie3 · 19/06/2008 16:22

Oh my god, that was HUGE! So sorry!

Profile being updated.

whinegums · 19/06/2008 16:26

Hello all, welcome Sarah. Laura, I really think my due date isn't til the 25th, or the 28th (going from conception date or last period rather than scan), so I'll be here til the bitter end as well!

Looney, I thought Debs was dedicated to this thread until seeing your post!!! Wow!!! Well done and welcome to JJ. Congratulations to everyone else who's popped too.

DQ - I've just been bouncing on my gym ball in front of the telly and wiggling my hips a lot. It's actually surprisingly comfortable. My other favourite position is draped over my massive beanbag in front of the telly.

Had a bit of gunkiness last night (sorry...) which I think was a bit of mucus plug coming away and got absurdly excited, but nothing else today. Any day is good for monster's arrival but Tuesday, as DP has booked the plumber to come then to sort out the kitchen. Arghhh! Might be refusing the sweep the mw said they'll be offering me on - yes, Tuesday....

Hugs to Spongebrain and Amberc and everyone else who's feeling rough.

On another note, got quite sad when I realised this time last year I was lying on a beach in Antigua glugging cocktails... Bit of a change this year!!!!!!!

whinegums · 19/06/2008 16:31

Ooohhhhhh, Essie, xposted with you, congratulations to you too, you did amazingly well going through all of that.

poppy34 · 19/06/2008 16:39

congrats essie and well done you.
looney gets some kind of roy castle dedication award for fastest posting on hatching.

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