Wagon-Waddlers ante-natal for the ttc'ers. With others hot on their tails, hopefully!

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I'd better be over here soon!

Glad your MW sounds lovely GS, you're booking in appt is a week after mine...I can't wait till the scan to get my dates sorted .

Having a cold is pants, I had a really bad one at the start of my last pg, I bought a vicks steam inhaler as it was the only thing I could do to get relief (its not vicks 'flavoured' just pure steam). But a towel over the head over a sink of steaming water can be just as good

Think I'm going to go dive in the bath with DS! Be back later.

Yes Cal - I have been doing the same - steam has been my saviour!

I am the same as you in that I am not sure when I am due so I can't wait to get my scan either! I need to let employers know soon and it would be nice to actually have a date!

Hi Gruff

Which hosp did you choose?

Had a right trauma getting dressed for work this morning - I think my belly has popped! It's suddenly sticking right out when it wasn't before (more of a gentle curve!).

I've put on one of my old maternity tops, which doesn't actually look like a maternity top and its done a great job of hiding it....not sure how much longer I'm going to be able to cope with everyone thinking I'm fat before I tell them!

Roll on MW appt / first scan!

There's an interesting 'debate' going on in the March ante-natal club, about the benefits of being a young mum / old mum...

Am I old or young at 32 to have one DS and another on the way?

If I'm an old mum then I'm running the risk of my kids not being my friends, being too embarassed to go shopping with me, and I will be too strict on some things (no bouncing on furniture, no shouting) and not strict enough on others - allowing my kids to push other kids about and take their toys away from them.

So I really hope I fall in the younger mum category as I'll have far more energy, be best mates with them, have exactly the right balance of fun and discipline and still be young enough to see my grandchildren.

As (I hope) you guys can probably tell, these aren't my opinions - but isn't it funny how some people really do believe that the position they are in is the best and that anything different is flawed, even though they try to cover it up with back tracking statements.

Think I'm probably being over-sensitive (I'm pregnant, I'm entitled to be ) but do think its a shame on a 'support' thread. I'm glad we've never had these 'debates' in the wagon.

NB: The author hereby abdicates all responsibility for the above contraversial posting and will rely entirely on pg as an excuse for offending anybody

Morning all,

Cals - debate sounds like nonsense. I think 32 is a great age to be expecting your second. It is all so subjective...no point in getting into it is there?

Gruff - thanks for your sympathies . Am taking my first MS-related sick day today. Just couldn't face going in this morning. Food is becoming less and less appealing, even though I know eating usually helps.

This is hard...

cals- your an 'average' aged mum imo... i'd say probs over 40 is old, and younger than around 25 or so is young... I'm a young mum, and i see the benefits already, but can see the benefits of any age- there are pluses and negatives for any age!!

Hi cals
i've been reading the age debate but not contributing to it (tend to do a lot of lurking onthat board!) Its personal choice when/where/how to have kids.

Its about it being right for the individual- we all make choices.

morning all

Hello

What it has to do with other people what (or when) people do with their lives is beyond me. What business is it of anyones? And even if someone did have strong views on "the right age" they should keep them to their bloody selves, or risk hurting and upsetting people. And FWIW, I was/am a young mum (DS1 was born when I was 18) and he has never been allowed to jump on the sofas, and as far as I know he has never ever pushed another kid, or taken toys off anyone, even when he was younger.

Being a 'good' mum is much less to do with age, as it is to do with common sense and love.

..... anyway.....!!

Cosmo, sorry you're feeling bad, think a lazy day is in store for you!

Gruff sorry about your cold It is absolute pants whilst pregnant LOL I was so worried about going into labour with it, not because of giving birth or not being able to breathe, but in case I was snotting and snorting my way through pushing!! LOL

LOL, morning all - that woke you up.

GYo, I find it a very strange board after the 'normality' and certainly the non-competitiveness of the wagon.

I agree with you all - but NJ, you read it wrong, as a young mum you're perfect in every possible way! Its us oldies that can't control our kids!

Cosmo, sorry you're struggling so - have you been trying all my previously posted tips? Are you armed with crackers (I know they sound unappealing but they really do work far better than you imagine they will).

I found my MS easier to manage once my MW had drawn me a picture - two horizontal lines running parralel and a wave bouncing between and beyond the two lines. The two lines represent the upper and lower sugar levels you need to stay between in order to not feel sick, the wave represents your blood sugar levels. When you eat little and often, the wave gently bounces up and down between the lines - all is well. When you eat larger meals further apart, you get a surge of sugar which pushes you up over the top line, then it crashes and falls below the bottom line, you get hungry / sick and can't face eating and it plummets lower, you eat something and your body immediately pounces on it, converts it all to sugar and your sugar levels soar - but only for a short while....so then they crash again...

Not sure if that's a very good description (think the porridge one was better) but when you can visually imagine what's going on I think it helps get the next cracker down...

And if you don't fancy crackers, I found preggie pops really good....I got them from this website but there are plenty if you google it.

Hey Cals - interesting debate - haven't been on there this morning to see it, but I think I'll stick to your summary and the safety of the Wagon/Field ta!
Which Preggie pops do you recommend? I'm really struggling with not wanting anything sweet at the moment and despite eating rice cakes regularly, it's not doing much today - up and down days. Which flavour preggie pops did you have? Much like Cosmo, I need food, but don't fancy anything and I can't make decisions on my own.... aaaaaagh!
Did like your description of the waves though - very good

Hi Cals

You are definately right, the wagoners field feels so nice and safe, I read the other board but dont want to contribute. Im glad we have a Wagon AN thread to lurk in

LOL GYo - its emotional this pregnancy lark isn't it!

Starshine, I'd def recommend the sour fruits. Preggie pop drops are more practical for work too.

I couldn't stand the ginger, lavender (WTF) and peppermint flavoured ones (too much like Gaviscon and very vomit inducing for me) but each to their own, especially if you're struggling with the sweeter flavours!

Morning all,

How are we all feeling today?

I of course couldn't resist contributing to the discussion on the March thread, it was far too tempting not to join in! I do think peoples opinions and choices are interesting but of course there can never be a right or wrong answer its all about how people choose to live their life and that is personal and completely up to them. I hope I made it clear that I thought neither was better than the other, I really don't! Scared by the thought I may have offended someone now!! I do wonder sometimes if I should have waited longer, I could certainly give my kids more materially in 5 years time then now but in the end that just wasn't right for me, that it no way means I think my decision is the "right one" for everyone, just me.

I like our wagon thread too, it is more cosy!

Oh and Cal, there is no way you are an old parent!! Don't forget there are a few very young people on there who probably feel the need to jusitfy themselves, not that of course its anyone business that they choose to have kids young!

Yep playing!! I was young, had DS when i was 19, didn't plan it, but it happened and he was the making of me!! I dont feel i have to justify my age, I know that i'm a good mum, and if others dont see that then sod em!! haha!!

In my ideal 'plan' we were going to only be ttc our 1st DC around now!! Fate helped us have DS earlier than planned and its worked in our favour!!

I can understand why some people choose to wait till mid-late 20's or early 30's as it gives them time to get themselves financially stable before kids!! aswell as living their lives, doing things they want to do in life!!

Cal I was pointing out that even as a 'young mum', I am probably a little bit too strict with some things, and lax with others!

I think I am even more lax with DS2, but don't think that is anything to do with age, just that having been there and done it with DS1, I know which things aren't the end of the world, and so what I can be more lax with IYKWIM?

(FWIW I haven't even looked at the Jan AN thread for months! T'is much more comfy here )

Hi Glask - I don't think anyone should have to jusitfy their age. Since when does age have any baring over whether someone will be a good parent. And of course, sometimes people don't get to choose when they start a family it just happens!

yep!! hear hear playing!!

Hi Sat here in my dressing gown watching Test Tube Babies on Home and Health! Thanks for the sugar level description Cals - very interesting stuff. I have just eaten a few sour haribo and a mini Milky Way, so hopefully that has helped the levels a bit....Urgh, pregnancy has turned me into such a grump, all I seem to do is moan and groan....

I joined the April AN thread but haven't posted much and so many new people it is a bit overwhelming! I like this thread, and the field thread, though I've been feeling too negative and crappy to post over there much lately.

Definately agree Playing.

Can I suggest we close this one here now, or we are mirroring the other thread!!?

Going out for lunch today with some colleagues. Very excited as we are going to a really nice italian. Im a bit disappointed I cant have all the nice rare steak and things on the menu. But Im sure it will be lovely.

Ah, now I see where you're coming from NJ, I missed your point in my paranoia and thought I'd offended you!

I'm looking forward to knowing what I can be lax about second time around but I'm sure there will still be plenty of things that are new - lets face it, chances of a chilled out DC2 is pretty remote after having an angel PFB isn't it ?

I was actually ranting about the stupid topic of conversation rather than trying to drag it over here! (But doing it subtly in case anyone spotted my posting from the March thread and bitched about it over there - I don't want to upset anyone but it all seemed very stupid and pointless and point score-ish)

Cosmo - am going to slap your legs now young lady - a sweety sugar burst is all very well for short term but no good at maintaining even levels - go eat a jacket potato or pasta with chicken (or something carb / protein ish) for long slow steady release of sugars.

Now, I'm off to the staff canteen to buy some sweets get a nutritious lunch bursting with salad and veggies !

Good god no Cal - takes a hell of a lot to offend me!! (Normally I'm too much of a dunce to pick up on when someone is trying to offend me!! LOL) Just read my first post about it back and can see why you thought you had though, but no, seriously, no offence was taken at all, and I was actually agreeing with you, and aiming my.... ermmm..... rantage () at people who do think that older mums and younger mums fall into some sort of pre-drilled parenting mould!

Cosmo, agree with Cal I'm afraid, if you can't handle proper nutrious food, I always find just ready salted crisps helps a bit, but obviously watch the salt intake.

I'm back with my takeaway lunch and have scoffed it already , do you think the staff there would notice me at the back of the queue again?

I've had tuna pasta (it had veggies in it!) washed down with a can of lemon fanta.

How long do you think the twirl bar is going to last?

Not long judging by how loudly its shouting!