Due July 2008 thread - The Final Stretch!

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Just thought I would start a new thread! x

apparantly i have pelvic arthropathy i saw the mw today
i asked if it was spd she said no different kind of pain
this is horible to though and i must admit i havnt heard of it before has anyone else?
this is a throbbing stabbing pain in my groin and my whole pubic area spreading to both thighs
in bed at night is probably the worse i now have a stick to walk
cilc im sorry to hear of your spd i hav no idea if its the same thing but anything that puts you in a wheelchair must be bad
i hope things improve for when your LO is here
i know we are booked in for our c-sections the same day but i think its its a good job we are going that way for our own bodies sakes
who the hell ever said the joys of pregnancy was totally mad

disneystar - is pelvic arthropathy where your pelvis is misaligned? This is what I have, most of my pain is in my coccyx and down my thighs especially on the right hand side which apparently is a lot higher than the left (they should be the same level) as you have 3 joints in your pelvis if one is knocked off chances are the 3 of them are including the syphilis pubis at the front although the front isn't bad compared to the back. I think they now lump anything to do with pelvic pain under pregnancy related pelvic girdle pain

I have the grinding and the clicking as well, mine is at it's worst at night, I can still get about albeit hobbling like an 90 yo though.

The good news is it is hormonal with mine it goes once the baby is out maybe a few twinges after but nothing compared to now. Hope everyone else fairs the same.

CliC - I so feel for you in a wheelchair I really don't know what we would do if I was that bad, DP would have to give up work for a bit as we have no one else to look after the DDs.

DP in London tonight so home alone which means I have to do any night wakings takes me about 5 minutes to get up and out of bed, at least I get it to myself tonight and can try and get comfy with loads of pillows around me and no one moaning about my snoring!

Hi Disney and Sweetkitty - they are all related and that is why the disorder is no longer named Symphis Pubis Disorder. It has now been renamed to Pelvic Girdle Pain to include all of that different areas and associated pain issues in that area. As I mentioned I was given this fab little booklet from physio at Kingston Hospital. It goes into detail about the various elements and it really does sound like we all have varying different aspects of it - which have their own name.
So in a nutshell I think yes we are all suffering from Pelvic Girdle Pain (PGP) as it is now named but each of us seems to be suffering different aspects of it. Does that make sense?

I think the reason I have gone to a wheelchair is because of the broken ribs and fall I had. My pelvis just does not have the strength for morew than a few steps, I then start to shake and ever since having the fall I am very keen to do more damage. I am sure my pain is not worse, just that I am more prone to falling.

I ahd this last time disney and it cleared up reasonably quickly after DD was born. Have crossed all the bits I can hoping this happens again...all I can say is this LO is my last LO!

Hello everyone only a quick post to let you all in on a very naughty new discovery of mine

Toast with chocolate spread and peanut butter = m&m's on toast mmmmmmmmmmmmmm (no history of allergies in our families so peanuts ok for me )

Will go and try and catch up on all the news now!

sorry I mean NO MORE damage... LOL

Yummo Minkus!

minkus sounds lovely

CliC - doesn't matter which name it has it's still a pain in the ass (literally) can't believe you have broken ribs to contend with as well, are they feeling a bit better every day, when should they heal completely?

minkus that sounds so gross im a marmite and cheese spread and grated cheese person toasted all together my dh thinks thats nasty

hello all popping in briefly!
clic - so sorry re wheelchair - that must be soo frustrating. I would go mad! How long now? I bet you're on countdown.
Pelvic girdle pain - I was trying to remember that - people keep asking me is it SPD and I kind of go well sort of, it's ...and then can't think of it!
So, what I'm looking forward to after birth...not being pregnant!! And the baby of course.
Heffa that's hilarious re your dh sleepwalking! dd1 has started talking loads and moving around a bit in her sleep - I did it all through childhood, used to go downstairs and have whole conversations with my parents.dd1 was crying the other night and when I went in, she sat up, eyes closed and said 'cake..' really pathetically.
Well I saw MW yesterday and it was quite positive - she still thinks I should have an easy delivery with loose / sprained pelvis - might even need 'slowing down' (?)and she also said no consultant here would even consider a c-section, and SOME consultants but not all would induce because of pelvic stuff if we really really pushed (and possibly hit them with my crutches) - and not before 39 weeks. SO we've decided to plan a home waterbirth!!! So I can stay in one place, guaranteed the pool, pretty much guaranteed my own midwife, have all my comforts around etc. Still have worries that the pelvic sprain will make things more difficult, but need to trust MW and physio I guess...
Sorry for enormous essay!

purplejenny - apparently I have heard that one of the upsides (!) of SPD/PGP is that you can have quicker deliveries. We can only live in hope. Elastic pelvises means the baby might just slip out

sweetkitty - was it you who said much earlier on here that you've had really short second stages?? I must say, when MW was talking about perhaps needing to slow things down I was thinking 'noooo, let it shoot out, bring it on!!'

Hi all,

Sorry to hear so many of you are suffering.

Just got back from dinner out and our first antenatal class. There were 6 couples in total and the midwife was lovely. Discussed pain relief tonight. Quite enjoyed it although i have pretty much researched everything to death anyway.

Theres a lady in our group who i biefly spoke to when i had my glucose blood test done at the hospital, so nice to see a familiar face. We were chatting abit tonight and seems she is due one day before me.

purplejenny - I don't know if it was me I've had short labours and no real transition stage, with DD2 the minute they broke my waters she shot out.

After reading about third births on MN I am scared stiff about having this one too fast and being on my own with the DDs. I have heard all these stories about people giving birth on the toilet floor after about 5 minutes of pain

(SK now sets herself up for 27 hour marathon labour)

sk - eek! Am not having a third...she says...

SK I'm also worried about a quick labour! DS wasn't amazingly fast (4 hours from first contraction) but I have been sort of preparing myself for a quicker one this time. But then I start worrying that I am relying too much on the notion of it being fast and so perhaps I should steel myself for a two day painfest

purplejennyrose- of your waterbirth.

I was thinking of one in the hospital birth pool however the midwife tonight said hey are in th middle of updating the pool rooms and it does look like they will be ready for July... oh well.

Apparently the birth rooms have baths so i can labour in the water but not give birth.

sorry meant to be Wont be ready.

i thought that pigley!

minkus - DD1 was 4 hours too, DD2 was 2 1/2 hours but when I was first examined about 30 mins after first contraction I was 8cms but my waters were intact and her head not engaged, it was only when they broke then she came down and out, MW said I would have been under an hour if waters had gone.

The thing is everyone goes on about how lucky I am blah blah blah but both times I have had zero warning no days or two fo prelabour mild pains, no gradual build up, it's like shit that was a painful BH, that one goes and another one starts, one on top of another contantly, I think it's a condensed pain and I am totally out of control, don't want to be like that in front of the DDs.

sorry laying on my side on the sofa typing this so typings abit all over the place.

sk i am with you - totally

i was thinking about your comment on arm and that is exactly why i do NOT want arm...

my labours have got quicker and quicker and just like you NO slow warning

i am now looking into slowing it down a wee bit as my last natural delivery (ds3) was so fast and relentless. he then had some question mars over cerebral palsy and his delivery was looked at. the sheer pace of it had all the doctors kind of nodding...it scared me into epidural with ds4

this time i am hoping for water but not ruling out epidural

butterfly - there is a part of me that thinks going into hospital at 40 weeks and being induced would be better, could plan around it, have childcare in place, DP would be here, no stress about him getting back in time, DDs wouldn't see anything, DP would know when to get time off work etc having been 15 days early and 12 days late I haven't a clue when I will go this time.

i am soooo with you on that

childcare is a nightmare for us too and last time i did this...

went overdue got more and more stressed as options for childcare ebbed away

went to hospital for overdue appt and said 'baby NEEDS to come today'

they were kind of shocked but said 'no beds so we cant but we will give you a sweep and you can hang on'

this was midday - sweep did v little. had another sweep 6.30 - baby born 9.30

as i was in hospital and already very wound up and stressed - i IMMEDIATELY demanded epidural when contractions started (not had an epi before) and they examined - already 4/5 cms so got one

all worked out fine - dp home to look after bairns that night
me out next morn

childcare causes me a lot of anxiety at birth

sk and butterfly- I also had no prelabour warnings at all and contractions started at 5 mins apart.

As soon as I get the first inkling of a contraction this time I am off to the hospital!

Thankfully my mum only lives/works 20 mins away so she has offered to look after ds when the time comes. Must be v worrying not knowing what to do with your lo's, if we all lived closer then we could have some sort of rota system going!

Childcare is a problem here too. It's a big part of why a home birth is for me. DH works 45 min away, mum is 1 and a half hours away, in laws 2 hours. Have various friends / neighbours I could call on in an emergency depending on time of day.

DS2 was born 3 hours from first contraction, so I am expecting a quickie again. My nightmare scenario is labour starting at 3pm - when I am supposed to be collecting DS1 from school. I have had a little warning - both my previous labours began with terrible backache for 30 mins or so. As soon as my back hurts this time I will be on the phone to DH!

SK - DS2 shot out about 15 mins after the waters broke too. Perhaps it would be easier all round if we have one contraction, waters pop, and quick catch the baby!