Due July 08 - Third trimester - we're on the coundtdown YIPPEE!!!!

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Couldn't fix the title so thought I'd start again - hope this is okay now!!!

Jodie
Hugs to you on the car front! and yes i have the really need the loo and it only a trickel.. Then if i have to go at night it goes on and on and on and never stops!! Weird..

sweetkitty
just looked at your pics there and your bump is so like mine.. I need to get my ass in gear and sort out a list of things this little one will need..

Minnie that was my 20 week bump pic I think got a lot bigger now must update pic.

I was saying to my friend today that I hadn't got anything for the baby and the conversation went like this:
mosesbasket - got
sheets/blankets - got
vests - got
babygros - got
clothes - got lots
shawl - got
car seat - got
baby gym - got 2
pump - got
steriliser - got
bath seat - got
slings - got 2
pram - need
bottles for EBM - need

she said SK what are you on about?

Evening everyone,

Blimey, you ladies can talk. It's been a week or so since I've been on and you've managed to get through two threads!

Anyway, it's taken a while, but I think I have caught up with everything. Unfortunately, my brain has turned to mush and the only thing I can remember is that Libralady is going on holiday, there's loads of SPD going round and there has been the great milk debate!

I've got a quick question...what should I be expecting from my midwife visits? If I'm lucky, I get my belly measured, the doppler, my blood pressure taken and asked if the baby is moving! That's about it. I mentioned that the baby is predominantly on the right hand side but she didn't think it was anything worth worrying about. I am worried that she is so relaxed about the whole thing and doing the minimum amount that something will be missed. Sorry..it was meant to be a short question! Ooooo, also, am intrigued by the hypnobirthing...can anyone recommend a good book?

Right...off to eat more cake . Hope those that are feeling poorly are feeling a bit better today.

LOL sweetkitty
You have all the basics just a little few bits and bobs is all you need.... I think one list and one day should do the lot...

Went to get my hair done this morning only to find apt was for tommor morning!! and of course i blame the pregnancy brain!
Off to bed for a good night sleep I am going to count the amount of time i have to get up tonight!

Sounds about right for mw appt, tafftaff. I have a little more discussion with her around my most recent consultant appt at the moment (to do with my anti-Es) but that's about it. BTW, all 3 of my babies have lain on my right side - must just be more comfy there!

hi everyone, well the thread is certainly moving at a fast pace!

Jodie, Minnie, glad you are sorted and don't need my stuff. Minnie I hope you have a great time on Sat and it's a bonus to be able to wear the clothes afterwards.

Re the whole breastfeeding discussion, I had a very similar experience to sweetkitty with my first one. He was taken into special care on day 3 because he had seizures and hypoglycaemia (low blood sugar). They didn't really explain to me that hypoglycaemia leads to seizures - I was terrified he might have something permanently wrong with his brain. In retrospect I just think he was bl*y hungry, and I really feel that had I had more help with the breastfeeding we wouldn't have been in that position. I got more help when he was in special care, including being attached to the hospital breastpump and pumping for Britain! I was pleased to bf him up to 10 months but by then he'd developed a cow's milk intolerance and later developed one to soya. So when ds2 was born I was determined to get the bf working and not to give him any formula.

I agree with ButterflyMcQueen that expressing is a great help. In the early days with ds2 my boobs were so huge that he was finding it hard to latch on, and I was spraying milk everywhere. So I expressed and then fed him milk from a cup. (With ds1 no-one explained to me that I could do that.)

My midwives also lent me a copy of the 'Bestfeeding' book which has some good advice when dealing with the usual problems, and helpful pictures to show how the baby should be positioned.

Despite still being up at nearly 11pm, I'm another one who has been feeling quite tired recently. I was in town most of today getting stuff for ds1's party on Sunday, then he had a friend round after school too, and ds2 has a friend round tomorrow morning. So I think tomorrow afternoon should be dedicated rest time.

Thinking of you all, hope you have a better day tomorrow jodie.

night night.

CilC I have had to rearrange my GTT for next Fri mind I have thrown a spanner in the works I cannot drink lucusade because I am allergic to the preservative they shove in it so I have not been able to get hold of the glucose the doctor said I could use instead. Not tried very hard but Boots just looked at me blankly and told me to talk to my GP well it was him who flippin told me to get it and I could from a chemist. So the midwife is talking to the diabetic clinic about me. I hope they cant sort it cos I really really don't do not eating like you and as the only reason they want me to have it is I am over weight I am not I have no symptoms of diabetes or other reasons to have it so not sure why I should put my self out about having it esp as no one wants to explain why they just say it's part of the protocol sorry that does not wash with a nurse it's like saying to a child because I say so.

I have just bought my first thing for this little lump wandering through Tescos I picked up a small pack of new born nappies for my hospital bag.

To add to what Libra1975 says about taking iron tabs as well as taking with something like OJ avoid taking it with tea coffee etc and dairy as these reduce the uptake.

I feel fat and miserable today. i wish the sun would come out

Kaz - surely you can refuse the gtt? If they have no reason to believe you might have gd?

Morning all hope we all had a good night, DDs were up about 3 times I did the getting up once at 11.30pm which was hard as it takes me about 5 minutes to actually get out of bed. Think DP is a bit cranky as he does most of the gettings up and he says my snoring is horrendous these days so he can't get back to sleep. I don't know what to do about it, guess it's a combination of the this cold and being pregnant am already sleeping propped up on my pillows. It's getting me down as well as he will wake me up and tell me to prop myself back up but then I fall asleep again, not much you can do about something that happens then you are sleeping.

Minnie - I forgot to add I have a swing, bouncy seat and travel cot up the loft. Although I know I have most things I need I think I still have this mad nesting thing going on and I must go and buy things.

kaz - TBH I think I would refuse the GTT as well, if your only "symptoms" are being overweight and thats not really a symptom anyway I don't see why they are so desperate for you to have it, can't they just keep a closer eye on any sugar in your urine.

poledra - thats funny all 3 of mine are on my right hand side too maybe that is the comfier side. I definitely can feel a bit bony bum under my ribs.

tafftaff - no your MW appointments sound fine, I can't believe I have a 6 week wait until my next one now too but I think they get more frequent from about 36 weeks. Someones you get blood taken and I take it you are providing urine samples each time as well.

Right better be off and get ready, is anyone else finding it a pain trying to find things that fit? What with the weather and the limited maternity clothes it's a nightmare.

Kaz I would also ask you GP how necessary the GTT is. Seems a lot of effort if there is no reason for one. I am having one because I am super thirsty all the time.
I have also been going mad on the shopping front - think it might be a nesting thing.

Such a shame I found this website so late as I had a bundle of baby girl clothes that I have just given to a charity shop. Still have a few things so if anyone knows they are having a baby girl and live in Surrey let me know. Everyone I know is having a boy!Have been having a huge clear out -out with the pink, in with the blue!

I also have a very dirty/ slighty ripped and very worn red Phil and Teds red buggy if anyone thinks they might need one. It is in a very poor state - am looking to drop it off at the tip this weekend. My DD is almost 4 and starts school in September (youngest in her class) so I can not see her wanting to sit in a pram anymore. Could be used as a back up???

isaidno - I have just looked at your photos, you are not fat!! But have a hug for the miserableness.

Kaz1967 - where are you actually based for some bizarre reason I think you are in the USA! Boots will do both glucose tablets and gluscose powder what they won't do is hire anyone with an IQ. It will prboably be around the diet pills/protein shakes/sports drinks/replacement meal area.

SK - anyway your DH (or you) could sleep in another room until snoring stops? I know it's not ideal and I hate not sleeping next to my DH (but then we have only been married for 2 months, give it a couple of years and I'll probably be looking for excuses not to sleep with him) but if it enables you both to sleep more it will be worth it in the short-term.

tafftaff this is the books we are getting:
www.amazon.co.uk/Hypnobirthing-Breakthrough-Easier-Comfortable-Childbirth/dp/0285637711/ref =sr11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209548071&sr=8-1

Which I think is the accompanying book to the course we are hopefully doing.

I was in bed by 11:30pm and not up until 8:15am and am STILL exhausted, how you mothers with children already do it I don't know. I'm stopping at the one. Or adopting.

Because I am too lazy to ebay and forgot to take them back if anyone wants them (for use not ebay!) I have a pair of size 14 black maternity combats from Red Herring Debehnams, brand new under the bump with side elastic bits. If anyone wants them let me know and I will put them in the post. If not I will freecyle them.

CilC please don't tip it if you have freecycle put it on there I am sure someone would be able to make use of it!

cilc - there is also a for free forum on mumsnet where you might find a home for the buggy.

Thanks Libra for the nice comment x

Sorry I meant at the freecycle section at the tip!

hi libra - i wouldn't mind the black combats if they are still going. how does it work - do i pay you the postage or something?
i am based in copenhagen but my parents are coming over from surrey in a couple of weeks.

i am such a heifer at the moment. i am growing exponentially and keep getting comments on how big i am from people at work. this guy called me "chubby" yesterday and if i wasn't so tired, i would deck him!

what am i going to get married in?????

TJuice - If you don't mind waiting a couple of weeks I will post them to your parents (or if they live anywhere near Farham I can drop them round). My email address is [email protected] so if you drop me your parents address I will get them sent off. Don't worry about postage. I don't recommend you get married in them

that should be farnham not farham.

Libra1975 no I am in the UK to be honest if they really want me to have this then they are going to have to put in the effort because I have had enough. And I cannot guarantee I will remember at 4am not to have a snack it kind of happens without me thinking.

isaidno I could refuse it yep but despite being a nurse the medical staff still seem top be able to make me feel guilty because I am refusing something . Same as the midwives did when I was in hospital the first time had bugger all done for me an wanted desperately to leave but the could not get a bloody doctor to see me for over 6 hours They actually held my notes ransom I wanted them so I could talk to my Midwife in the community and the stupid witch did not trust me

Oh I must be too assertive - after waiting three hours to find a doctor so I could be be dishcharged when I had DD - I began packing up to go. I told them to send my notes to our GP and offered to self address an envelope - miracuousy a doctor appeared in 5 minutes. But I was ready to go and would have.

CilC I always thought I would be too but they way they talked to me made me feel so childish and as if I was putting my baby at risk. I knew dm well if it was something serious they would have known pdq but I was emotional I had had about 4 hours sleep over 2 nights, I suffer from panic attacks and there was a very noisy family who's daughter had just been admitted and was barely coping. The midwife said she would contact friends work or me and then buggered off and had not done it..... I am NEVER going on that ward again even if it means self discharging and I have made an official complaint. As a nurse I considered the treatment I received unacceptable. I don't care if they were busy, delivery suite were busy and I got looked after and felt safe there, I worked in a busy neonatal intensive care for 12 years and I would feel mortified if any parent who's baby had been in my care felt felt as I did without being supported.

I am sorry you had to experience that! Hormones and sleep deprivation really effect us all. I just found I went the other way - all feisty and assertive (actually more like aggressive). I had a MW say that my DD had the devil in her on night 2. Somewhere from within (and I am not ususally like this) I took her to town and really gave it to her. I made an official complaint also - fancy saying something like that even if it was in jest!
I lied to HV who kept stressing me by saying my DD was not putting on enough weight and who wanted to come over every day to weigh her by saying I was leaving for Australia for three months! I have no idea where this confidence and bolshiness came from - but it seemed to serve me well. Hope it comes back again!
But yes there were times I felt so unsupported and shocked by the lack of empathy and sat back and took it. I suppose the thing is...we just need to keep in mind we are more emotional and we should try and ensure somehow we learn from previous situations.
I hope this time goes so much better for you!

Disney I live in Ross on Wye but I work in Gloucester, in Barnwood ? maybe we could try and meet up before these babies arrive? I used to live in Abbeymead too (we moved to Ross when we got married) I?m working Monday- Thursday at the mo but only for another couple of weeks- then I?m on maternity leave hooray!!! Let me know if you fancy getting together, I?ll be really flexible after 13th May and can fit round your huge broods? plans

Thanks for all the well wishes for GTT- Pigley the midwife called me at tea time last night and gave me the results and said all was fine I could go ahead and have a cream cake for tea so hopefully you shouldn?t have to wait much longer for yours (give them a bell, I would!)

Because I had fasted for so long, I was desperately hungry by the time the blimmin thing ended (they were really behind, there for 09:15 and should have been out of there by 11:30 but didn?t leave until 13:00 grrr) that I scoffed some sarnies a packet of crisps and a Cadburys? Boost really quickly and experienced an absolutely awful post lunch ?dip?- I was so tired on the way to work that I had to stop in a church carpark and have a nap in the car. I was really worried that I was going to fall asleep at the wheel. Put my head back thinking that I?d have 15 mins if I could drop off and woke up an hour and a half later feeling no better whatsoever- oops think it?s a bit late to get to work now . Luckily was only 5 mins from MIL?s so popped in there and had another 2 hrs kip! (Still managed to be shattered at 22:00 though!) Guess that all the mucking around with my blood sugar levels didn?t help.

Has everyone else got a growth chart to plot the baby?s progress on in their notes from the midwife now? I think I was supposed to get it at around 22 weeks (ish) but they keep on forgetting to print it out and say they?ll do it next time. If they forget it again next week I?ll probably only have 2 appointment and therefore measurements before d-day which seems a bit pointless tbh.

Oh dear having another post lunch dip may have to go and use the relaxation room in our occupational health area for a bit? (hopefully not 1.5 hrs again though)

Wow mammoth post soz!

Have a good day all
xx

Afternoon,

You've all been busy chatting today! Hope everyone is OK? My day is a bit better today, car still not ready, and it's going to cost me £350, with the MOT on top But I guess it's a necessary evil

I've had my growth chart for a while, I hink they put it in at my 12 weeks scan, but I gt my first measurement in there on Friday (whopee) and I'm spot on the middle line, so according to the chart baby weighs 1110g, but I know that doesn't mean diddly as with DS they thought he'd weigh about 10lbs and he was 7lbs 4ozs, which was fine by me!!

I also have this (horrible) feeling that I'm going to go over this time (had DS at 39 weeks) as they changed my dates twice at my 12 week scan, and now I'm only measuring 27 weeks and I am 29! Boo