Due Dec 2008: The second thread!

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I thought I'd better start another thread as the other one was full to bursting!

Nandos - I am sorry, try to keep positive until you know for definate next week and I know from experience how hard that is. If necessary there are some very supportive threads under the bereavement thread which got me through some very dark days and nights.

Look after yourself and your dp, during these difficult times.

Morning everyone.

I keep having to get up in the middle of the night to go to the loo. Our bathroom is downstairs so I'm sure I must be getting some exercise.

I had egg mayo sandwiches for breakfast. DH said that must be a pregnancy thing.

How is everyone?

Nandos - I'm so sorry to hear your news. Please take care of yourself x

We have the same problem. Our bedroom is in the top of the house and the bathroom is below so I am going up and down the stairs all night!

I've just got my '12 week' scan date. It's not until 17 June. I'll be 15 1/2 weeks by then. What's that all about? I despair! My midwives tell me they don't want to see me until I've had my '12 week' scan. I may as well just get on with it and have the baby by myself.

Becky, you should question this. If your 12 week scan is your nuchal scan it has to be done by 14 weeks at the latest to give the sonographer a good picture of any likely risks.
My midwife wasn't even happy about the fact my scan date is at 13 +6. She said 'Oh, that's just within the time line I suppose, but I wish they would give the 12 week scan at 12 weeks!'

So, had my booking in appointment at the hospital yesterday. The midwife was lovely. I wish I could see her all the time, but unfortunately most of my appts will be at the antenatal clinic at my GP surgery. She was the loveliest woman, though. Booked me in to have early physio because of my SPD last time. Booked me in to see the postnatal depression counsellor to talk through strategies for making sur eit doesn't happen again. Booked me into talk through VBAC with the consultant. Booked me into BF-ing workshop because of my probs last time. I was stunned! Such a different experience to my last pregnancy, when they couldnt wait to get me out of the hospital!

Only one slight problem - she changed my due date to 28th Nov! I'm staying here, though and might post in Nov 08, too. I've become too attached to Dec 08 to leave now, plus I was 2 weeks overdue last time, so...

Anyhoo...hope you're all well. It's quite sunny here in London (despite the disasterous Mayoral election results! )

I can't ring the hospital until Tuesday according to the letter! Stupid! Grrrrr! They drive me nuts! I just rang the midwives again and I got a totally different answer this time from the last time I rang them up about booking-in. This time she said 'oooh you should have your booking-in at 12 weeks' and she also told me to question the hospital scan date.

So I'm going to put the Housemartins on really loud now and dance around with my two DSs.

It is lovely and sunny here today so I'm thinking of taking the DSs on a train later today to Moreton-in-Marsh as they LOVE going anywhere on the train. DH has gone househunting.

Thats so stupid Becky!! I'd ring them on Tuesday and see if you can change it.

We're of to my mum's as my brother's fiancee is here so we're going to see her and to show off DS walking

Hello everyone, I had my early viability scan yesterday at 6 weeks 4 days, it was worth every penny! Fantastic to hear the tiny heart beat. I'd recommend this to anyone feeling anxious. It was a really emotional experience.

bendybeckylegs if the NHS doesn't treat you properly when you call on Tuesday, instead of the stress of fighting the system it might be worth paying for a private scan to have when you want. I think for a nuchal its £150. I know it's a lot but as Kayze says, it should be probably done at the right time to benefit.

Good luck and try not to worry.

verso huge congratulations, what a relief, i was nervous reading through the thread to find out you were ok!
this thread is great...as it's so reasurring that there are loads of other people feeling the same things - ie isolated as cant tell most friends, tired and emotional at night etc. It's like reading my own diary at times!
Cococat and Inspectorgadget i too have had no sickness and will be 9w on monday. IMilton Keynes hospital are doing research with The Open University into what causes MS by the way...if anyone lives near there you could take part in the study (I work at OU but live further south so cant do it as you need to live in MK)?
msdynamo i too am finding my jeans dig and too tight, even tho my stomach doesnt actually look bigger!
Turniphead1 i had a long chat with natal birthing teacher yesterday, and have decided to do it instead of hypnobirthing. Reason being hypo is very "scripted", ie you have to hypnotise at a set time in labour, deep breath at another etc, whereas with natal you get given all the tools and decide what you want to do when. Plus with Natal you hynotise yourself, with hypno your birth partner has to. and hypno has all US terms like "surge" rather than "contraction" which apparently confuses the UK medical staff! Plus natal is half the price - £140 offer at moment, see www.natalhypnotherapy.co.uk/ yet it's all same principles at hypno. Hope that helps you make a decision.
I've had a **nker bloke at work this week be really rude to me in meetings a send irrate emails about a project im managing that he's not happy with what the external supplier's delivered. Other people at the mtg said he was rude and they'd take it up his senior management if i wanted. I wish i could turn around and say "im pregnant, stop being horrible to me!" to this guy. But i cant as only 8 weeks 6 days. it has stressed me and even woken up twice 5-630am thinking about it. Any advise for how to block out toxic people like that?? Find it hard to switch off, think that must be oversensitve pregnancy hormones! but dont want the stess to affect little bump! surely it wouldnt at this early stage anyway, im not THAT stressed by him...

Really have not had the chance to read and catch up so hope you are all well. Am heading into the final stretch of my degree, in a few short weeks I shall be considered educated

Ds has not been sleeping so I am totally shattered. On the plus side I seem to be heading out of the nausea (sorry) I'm going to blame the fact that I just went to the stock pot on the stove, removed every last scrap of meat form the carcasses in there and ate them on the pregnancy. I so don't remember being so....impulsive with food last time

Oh well!

Right, head down, soldier on, will lurk a little but see you properly on the other side!

Good luck with the degree Indith

I have a stinking cold and DS not sleeping well at, hence being up at this hour! Gah. Will try and sneak back into bed without waking him in a few mins.

My scan should be some time in June as well - am planning to ring surgery in a couple of weeks to make booking in appointment and check if I need to book scan myself. Our local hospital is pretty good on the antenatal side (no waiting for scans last time) so hope all will go smoothly.

Still no real nausea, more low level sickness when I'm hungry and feeling really really ratty. I might set the record for arguments with DH by the end .

Hope everyone has a good bank holiday weekend

Sorry about the not sleeping and the cold EffiePerine. I keep waking up at 5 and its horrible. I always need a wee. I wonder how bad it will be in a few months time.

I'm going to spend the day cleaning DS's old pram and pushchair so we can sell it and get a double pushchair.

I am constantly hungry nearly all day is anyone else feeling like this?

Hi Kayz, am not constantly hungry but do get sudden hunger pangs that make me feel nauseous, so I try to have a snack whenever I feel it coming on. As for sleep, I wake up every night in the middle of the night to go to the loo, but luckily I fall back asleep again straight away. I don't like this waking up at 7am though, even on a weekend.

EffiePerine I know what you mean about the irritability. I have been quite vile of late, and I bite my partner's head off at the slightest provocation. It's no wonder that some couples don't survive a pregnancy. I am worried that if I don't exercise more self restraint I risk ruining everything. But I must admit I feel totally irrational at times, and sometimes I find my BF intensely annoying! I seem to loose my loving feelings towards him. I keep looking at him critically and thinking'YOU"RE going to be the father of my child???'

Morning all. I am just off to meet my brand new niece, Scarlet Rose, born yesterday by C-section weighing 6lb, 13oz. Very excited and broody!
Hope everyone is well and enjoying the BH.

Ooh, how exciting

morning all, thought I'd quickly pop in while ds watches Balamory.

Katie what a lovely name, enjoy the cuddles!

Kayz I seem to be constantly hungry as well. I've started having lots of small meals through the day and that helps a lot. Btw, congratulations on ds walking! Those first steps are always so cute!

effie hope you managed to get some more sleep & that your cold gets better

indith good luck with the degree

We're off to my nephew's 3rd birthday party today so will be back on tomorrow! Have a nice day everyone

Also wanted to share with you all that ds did his first wee on the potty this morning. I know you all really wanted to know that

Katie Congrats on your new niece. What a gorgeous name.

Rosmerta Congrats on DS using the potty. I have that all to come with DS.

Katie - congrats on the birth of your niece!

Kayz - I have the hunger thing and the waking up early thing too.

Yesterday me and the DSs had a huge bowl of chips in a cafe and I scoffed most of them. I was feeling sick at the time as well. It's bizarre how you want to eat when you feel sick. I find myself eating constantly all day - my latest passion is cheese.

Rosmerta - that's great news! I'm just waiting for my DS2 to use his lovely new blue potty which he chose himself last time we went shopping (and insisted on carrying around town and showing random passers by!). He has sat on it but not done anything in it yet.

Waking in the night is a real bind. I've got a ritual now:
9.30pm: fall asleep on sofa (last night it was in front of Ferris Buela's Day Off).
9.35pm: go to bed fall dead asleep.
12.00am: go to the loo fall dead asleep again.
3.00am: go to the loo toss and turn and have bizarre dreams (last night I was buying a house in a shopping centre and then I found lots of money on a bus).
5.30am: go to the loo and lie there wide awake until about 6.30am.
7.30am: get jumped upon by DS2.

Right there with you on the wierd dreams, I don't normally remember them but I seem to wake up every morning with a different one. They range from nightmares about DH going missing when I'm about to give birth to surreal ones where I am wandering round big towns with old friends from school (who I never see anymore) and we're trying to find the train station or something. This morning I woke up convinced there was a herd of cows in my garden because my dream had seemed so real.

I agree about the irrational feelings too, but I just take the same tack as I normally use with PMT. I scream at the top of my voice something like "I don't care if I'm being irrational I have PMT/I'm pregnant so just do as I say", which gives DH the chance to laugh at me, but he always goes along with whatever I want

I'm feeling really rough today! Tired, emotional and sick sick sick!

I know that I wanted to be pregnant more than anything, but I'd obviously put to the back of my mind the symptoms that come with it
Just keep telling myself that it's all worth it and if I didn't feel this way I'd be really worried!!

I'm being totally irrational, impatient and damn right horrible at times too! DH is being very good with me and everytime I burst into tears (and yes, it's happening quite a bit!!)he is very comforting and kind to me! And DD is just being the sweetest little thing even when I'm snappy. I'm very lucky really!

We are having a bbq tomorrow for family and are going to tell them (parents and siblings that is) but have to tell them not to be too obvious about it in front of dd as we don't want her to know yet as she will totally blab to the world, bless her! She was watching Dora this morning - the one about Dora being a big sister and decided that she wants to be a big sister too (lucky that!) and she wants a brother AND a sister! Well, not sure about that one, but hopefully she will be happy with whatever she gets

Poor you Southernbelle. I felt rough yesterday but a bit better today. It really does change day by day with me. It is worth it! I do remember last time during one of the rougher moments telling myself 'never again!'

I've just had a totally lovely time shopping. DH was kind enough to let me out for a few hours while he looked after the DSs and I had some major retail therapy (the last time I did this alone was Christmas and that was to buy presents). I am a happy bunny with new shoes. I can't go clothes shopping with the DSs now. DS1 has a habit of peeping under changing room doors and DS2 just runs around looking for trouble.

Pregnant dreams are weird. I could write an essay about my dream last night.

I had a dream with lots of scantily clad men with those big leaves they use as fans in places like Egypt and Boris Johnson appeared!! It was horrible.

I have been really bad today. I slept on the sofa earlier then we went upstairs to have a sort out and fell asleep in bed I just cant seem to stay awake.

I am scoffing a packet of twigletts! They are so nice.

hello all, missed another party this afternoon, just couldn't stay awake for it. Have to go out tonight to a concert as we've bought tickets for it, but luckily it's seated. I think BF thinks I'm exagerating the tiredness but I'm not. We visited a cramped NHS London birth unit today, didn't like it much. No wonder people prefer to have home births.

It's such a help knowing you're all really tired too!