Due November 08 - We're STILL a bunch of worrying fusspots who don't know what we want to eat, but pass us the cheese (and rice if you must ) purlease, while we wait for 12 weeks

[Heartmum2Jamie]

Here's our shiney, new and slightly ameneded thread to reflect our main topic of conversation recently! Really didn't want to mention the cheese and rice in the same sentence, but as it is a favourite with so many of you, I had to add it in, sorry to Hanaflower!

Hi Ladies - just popped over from MC avengers where I've read Twinklings fanastic news! Tminkle I hope you get the answers you are after, but try not to become burdened by what has happened, sometimes there aren't the answers - concentrate on the wonderous miracle that has happened to you - you truly are blessed with your little Pea - take things easy; leave the heavy housework to others!! This is a lovely story and I hope the remainder of your pregnancy goes smoothly! xx

I haven't taken the time to read how you are all doing without me!!

I have noticed a few names on Knicker Checkers and MC avengers who where here with me - nice to have the continued support. I am ttc again - within 4 days of having ERPC!!!

Divedaisy nice to see you popping back so soon.....I have to say, your attitude is amazing, I told you before I was humbled by it and I still am! Good luck and keep us posted!!!!!

Rennaisance and Bubbaz thanks for your words of support and good to read that you are experiencing the same, I guess my real worry is that when I MC'ed before, I found out at the 12 week scan that the baby had died which just makes me hate scans, and very nervous. Event hough I have gone on to have 2 DC's I am really nervous 3rd time around. Or maybe it's because I can vent on this thread which I didn't do with previous DC. Anyway, at my booking appointment last week (whic took nearly 2 hours, I ended up typing my details on the computer as the old dear didn't know how to do it!! We did have a good laugh though!) the midwife suggested I have councelling again to help me through the next 5 weeks or so......

Oblomov I meant to say, how are you doing???

DM x

Dozy I understand completely, I also had a mmc and found out at a scan I had begged for at 10 weeks, its heartbreaking and becasue they don't offer an early scan after having healthy pgs you don't get the peace of mind that you did after the mc.
Councelling might well help, you have got nothing to lose there its always worth a try.
Keep posting if you're down though there are plenty of us who have been there with you.
Look after yourself.
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Dozymare i'm worried about the same thing as you. Apart from tender (.)(.) i have not had any symptoms for a week and a half now, in fact, i felt really well last week at work. It is worrying though to imagine that anything is going on in there. I can't imagine how you are feeling though having already suffered a mc. When is your next scan? Mine is not for another long 10 days

I am just hoping that i am one of the lucky ones who doesn't have many symptoms
LB x

I don't feel pregnant either! This pregnancy has been quite different to my others now that I think about it. I had more nausea (but only mild still, but it lasted longer), but my boobs never become sore enough for me to want to drop kick anyone. I also did not have the bone crushing tiredness that I had with my other pregnancies. These were symptoms that kicked in pretty quickly with my other pregnancies, so this is quite different for me. I also have never really had to pee that much more than normal, but I do have to get up at least once most nights (not last night, yay!) The main difference for me this time is the headaches, I get them ALOT, mainly in the evening. I am sure that if we all give it another few weeks, it will feel more real and some of us will be starting to feel our little beans, peas and babes move.

My scan isn't until the beginning of May and I don't think I can wait that long. Has anyone turned ever turned up at the EPAC with no cramping and no bleeding and asked for a scan as they are worried....do you think I could do that???? Any other suggestions???

DM x

My EPAU would tell me in no uncertain terms where to go if I showed up with no good reason other than being worried. I asked my GP to refer me, he did and I got a call from the hospital saying being worried was not a valid reason for a scan and that the easliest they would see me was for my dating scan (11 days from now). If you have the money, I would either go for a private scan or rent a doppler (ebay are good for rentals). My doppler has been a godsend, but I can see how it would worry some women more than reassure them.

No there is def one in there! I'm so relieved about that. I'm Cumbria too! Market town about half way between Penrith and Kendal

I don't "feel" pg either, but as I didn't feel particularly pg with my other two dc, I'm not worrying

Yay MamaG I was starting to think there were no other Cumbrians out there!!!

Dozy I was also told in no uncertain terms that the EPAU are NOT there to do reassurance scans, Its obviously much better to leave a pregnant person worrying themselves to death instead!!. Perhaps if you go to your GP and talk over your concerns with them they might be able to refer you as a special case?

I love cumbria. We live in Leeds so not an unfeasible day trip for us, if we are organised and up early. Used to do lots of walking (pre DCs) and camped regularly at the NT sites in Wasdale and Langdale.

Hoping to get some camping/walking in this summer though, pregnant belly allowing!

Feel like a big pile of rubber this morning, and although not feeling sick today, just have no energy or even the inclination to get off the sofa. I've sent DH out with the DCs for an hour or so, and am enjoying the tranquility.

Our EPU doesn't do reassurance scans either, although some will I understand. I suppose they have to draw a line somewhere or every pregnant woman in the county would be lining up at the door. I do think that it ahould be policy to scan women who have had a previous mc and are scared witless though. After all stress isn't good for you or the baby.

I had a private scan done with DD precisely becasue I had a drop in symptoms at 9.5 weeks and it was going to be another four weeks till my dating scan. It seems that things do drop off a bit around the 10 week mark; it's happened in all my pregnancies anyway.

Wishing everyone a worry, and sickness free day

and the unthinkable has happened here. I shared a bar of Galaxy with DH and DS earlier, and I'm utterly gobsmacked to say, IT TASTED AWFUL .....like earthy and muddy and not pleasant. DH and DS said it tasted fine. Not a bad thing in the grand scheme of things, but Galaxy is my love affair of the chocolate world and I'm gutted!

I was on the original Nov 08 thread and have popped back to say that I've unfortunately had a missed miscarriage at 10+ weeks. I'm still waiting for 'completion' but there's no doubt: the baby stopped growing at about 5 weeks.

I've now had 2 m/c since Xmas and we're currently thinking about whether we can face going through it all again...

Best wishes to everyone here and bfn.
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Manyhatson, I am so sorry for your loss. That is exactly what happened to me between my boys, missed miscarriage found at 9 weeks, baby stopped growing at 5 weeks and had to wait until 10 weeks to start miscarrying (was incomplete though). I know how devestating it is. Sending lots of love & hugs your way and I wish you nothing but the best for the future.

manyhatson for your loss.

Take care of yourself and I hope that you ind the strength to try again. The chances of it happening again are very very slim, although that probably isn't any consolation to you at the moment. After my second mc the clinic said that 1 in three pregnancies end in MC and that I was just unlucky to be the 1 in 3 for the second time. It helped convince me that trying again was the right thing to do.

Best of luck in the future xx

So sorry to hear your news Manyhatson. I wish you all the best for the future.

Heartmum Is your doppler easy to use? My sister is sending hers up tonight with another family member but i'm worried that i won't be able to find the heartbeat by myself and will end up sending myself into a tizzy. Do you tend to find the heartbeat fairly easily?

Lolabella, I can find the heartbeat more easily now that I am 10+6, may still take a minute or 2 to find it of baby is active, but when I first tried at 9 weeks, I couldn't find it for a few days but was determined not to worry too much if I couldn't find it. I heard it for the first time at 9+3, but then not again until 10 weeks. Now I can pick it up pretty quickly.

How far along are you? Also, how likely are you to panick if you can't find the heartbeat? Things to remember are that baby is very small and there is lots of space for it to dart around in, or they can hide behind the placenta. Also, baby is almost always much lower than you would think, so when you try, place the probe really low, just above your pubic bone and tilt the probe like you are trying to shine a light out your bum (LOL!), then try tilting in different directions like you are trying to light up dark corners in your uterus. Go slow and use plenty of gel. Good luck!

so am thinking about renting a doppler for the next couple of weeks. but will I be able to reliably use it or worry myself stupid that can't hear anything just cos I'm doing it wrong?

If you are a worrier, I would probably suggest NOT renting a doppler. If like you say, if you have a day or 2 where you can't hear the heartbeat & you will work yourself into a frenzy, it won't help much, especially as even rental places admit that hearing the heartbeat before 12 weeks in not that common. I tend to rent mine for a month from 9 or 10 weeks as I have a tendancy to feel movement from 14 weeks, which is reassurance in itself. I still have times now where I may have to search quite hard for baby, only to find that I probably missed it the first time as it is cuddled up to a maternal pulse

I'm due the same day as you. Hopefully one of my sister's will be here with it in an hour or so. I'v decided that if i find the heartbeat tonight i will ask dp to hide the doppler away somewhere until next Sun so i can't get obsessed with it .
Thanks for all you advice, the area near my pubic bone is getting really hard so i think i know where my little bean is, will be such reassurance though if i can hear it - will report later

So sorry manyhatson, good luck for the future x

oh what sad news manyhats on, look after yourself.

Hope everyone has hd a good weeknd, not too much sickness? Im def having a problem hiding this pregnancy for much longer - i look so big already and am only just 9 weeks! Lol renaissancewoman about you Mother in law guessing straight away, ive had a few of those!

First day back at work tomorrow after 2 weeks off - aaarrrghhh, the thought of getting up early is hideous! Off to get an early night xx

Heartmum i couldn't find it. Plenty of signs that i'm alive but not beany
Not stressing though - i know it's still very early and i'm no professional!!
Could hear the whoshing of the placenta (my sis found it who is a trainee nurse and spent time on the EPU) and i could tell the diff between that any my heartbeat but no signs of LO hb.

Lolabelle are you worrying now?? I am sure all is well but just to early to say....as Hearttomum has pointed out, probably not a good idea to get one if you are a worrier (I very nearly got one of ebay) but then thought better of it as I just know I would be checking hundreds of times a day.....we are all sooooo nearly at the 2nd trimester...only a couple of weeks to go which gets better with everyday.......Remember yesterday how I was really worrying about not being pregnant anymore...well last night laying in bed I had a very pregnant hard belly that was massive and I just felt I was pregnant (which really reassured me). Quite a few of us are having a tough 1st Trimester due to previous experiences but we are nearly there now!!

AS for people guessing, a lot of people are baltently looking at my tummy before they look at my face which is bloody obvious they are thinking "bun in the oven" or "been eating all the pies"

I am still on half term with my 2 so another mad fun filled week ahead!!

DM x