Feb 2008 - The Final Thread - Get a Blardy Move on Jaysthird, princessllama and tyaca!!!!!!

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Wonder how many posts we will get before we can start the post natal one.

Come on girls, keep getting jiggy and eating those curries.

Lucy - hurrah!! I know what you mean.

I was cuddling ds2 last night and he was looking at me, all wide eyed and cude and dh said (supposedly in ds2's "voice"), "you're my world mum" and it all felt easier again.

Beany you are making me well up . Loving the rare smiles we get here. Glad both Beany and Lucy had better nights. Mine was not too bad, just both were snotty and unsettled and DS1 cried a couple of times too.

Samsmam we had DS1 being quite ill with a cold a week or two ago and I basically told DH he had to be on DS1 night duty and I would be on baby duty. A few times though I have had to deal with all three but at least am bottle feeding.

Yesterday was really quite laughable. Was more stressed when DS1 refused to walk to nursery than with anything else.

Doula is coming today for first time in nearly a week, am soooo looking forward to seeing her. DS1 wants her to take him to the swings whereas I would rather do that and she can bath the babies ....

Forgot to say Beany, my DS1 does a mean impression of the HaHoos too . And has just perfected his "ooh maaaaaaaaaan" impression of Swiper the Fox in Dora. Makes me smile every time.

hurrah for Princess' news ... we are officially done!!! wd pl, and ty jays for passing on the news

Ds2 keeps saying "oh maaaan" too - is that where it comes from?! He has picked it up from nursery, along with requests for "a shooter from the shooter shop mummy".

yay princess!! great news

lol @ "shooter from the shooter shop" ... dh and i are determined to teach dd to say "oooh la la" to be used when she visits my uber posh big brother's house

ty for further words of support. tis the best thing in the world to come here and either read about everyone else's ups and downs, or to be able to get it off chest myself.

well - dd is asleep WITHOUT BEING HELD for the first time in 24 hours. ach, thats an exaggeration, she managed a couple of 2/3 hour sessions last night. but other than that, she's been in a heck of a needy mardy mood. lucy - i too have taken to bringing her into bed a bit. sometimes seems the only way to calm her. i cant sleep doing it tho' so its only a temporary solution.

re the dp/dh's -- what i think would be BRILLIANT would be if DH just said "hello gorgeous" or something like that. my dh is wonderful, but i swear i feel like this dripping monster, a pied piper of soggy breast pads, and i smell no matter how much i wash. when i feel low, that's one of the worst things, and if i could just be reminded that he loves me nonetheless, then i think whole day would be better. heheh.... wondering where dd gets her neediness from ??

gill - glad to hear you'll be online more. dd already has dummy, which HV was a bit stern about yesterday ... and i thought they were meant to be fine.

lovemymum - sounds like your lo needs to feed as much as mine. i'm already giving her two formula feeds a day, as she seems to get too hungry othwerwise. she grazes on my boob a lot, and a big feed is 25min or so, while sometimes, she's fast asleep in 5min. v frustrating. its interesting that you say that your DH wants you to BF more/longer?? its your decision, tho' i do understand why his feelings on the subject would strongly inform yours.

i thought my DH was really keen for me to BF - which is a kind of out-of-character thing for him to feel strongly about. i asked him about it at the w-end, and he said he really didnt care and was just being supportive! my two SILs were over this weekend. one nursed for 10 weeks (from one boob!) struggled, but continued. t'other SIL found it awful with first child and didnt even try with second. it felt like such a relief to hear them talking about it. combined with my DH revelation, felt like i'd been given permission to stop BF'ing. Going to try to make it to the end of the week - know how important first fortnight is and that every bit of boob milk is good for her. i'll see how it goes after that... if i can make it that long. BUT - she def seems calmer after BF as opposed to bottle, and less windy (tho' that could be that she doesnt gulp at the boob - poss should change teats on bottle????)

ho hum - lots of rambling.

egg your tale of dogs and babies made me smile so i thank you! and count to ten.... i second jooseyfruit on sex and size twelve cry outs!! i really cannot imagine ever having shufty again. TMI ALERT - when i dare to have a feel where the stitches are, every thing seems v v wrong and messed up .... as for the size 12 -- ha! i tried to put on a pair of my maternity jeans that i'd worn til i gave up work 7 months preg - and they didnt even get half way up my mega thighs.....

have a good day all --- princesss, looking forward to hearing from you

Massive congrats to princessllama - that's everyone sprogged now - hooray!

omy, I could seriously do with a swim too though I've got to wait a week or 2 as still recovering from c-section. I'm awfully achy too and plus I think I'm hunching over to breastfeed which doesn't help. As soon as i get the all clear I'm going to do some soothing lengths.

beansprout - your dh sounds like a sweety, and it's lovely to be reminded how important we are to our little babies

tyaca - there's nowt wrong with dummies, surely??? i've got the health visitor round this avo - last time she fretted for ages about the cat litter tray - my son is only 2 weeks old ffs - he can't go near it unless i put him there . i might tell her how much i love gina ford and hopefully then steam will come out of her ears!

ds is about to grow out of newborn babygros, and he also has an unsightly collection of rashes. he has also just become extra hungry.

keep smiling peepsx

Congratulations princess - fantastic news and worth the wait I'm sure!

Tyaca - I know what you mean about not being able to sleep with the lo in bed with you. I was the same with ds1 and ds2 as babies - as soon as I brought them to bed I felt wide awake and couldn't sleep. After lots of nights of ds2 sneaking into bed with us I'm managing to sleep with ds3 in bed with us really easily. I haven't had to bring him in much over the last week or so as he's settling in his own bed really well at night now (whole different story during the day!). My hv told me the recommended advice was no dummies for bf babies in the first 6 weeks. However, IMO dummies might help some mums keep bf for longer if they have particularly sucky babies. ds3 spat out the dummy when I tried it with him so I'm still resorting to ketting him suck my thumb in emergencies - probably much worse than a dummy.

Egg -your post made me laugh - sounds like you took it all in good spirits!

Looking forward to hearing from princess and migrating over to the post natal thread!

Hi a'body!

Right then, who wants to help me catch up on all i've missed?

Big pile of babies and hormones is the short version!!

Ladle!!! How are you? Are your girls home safe and sound? What's been happening? They must be more than three months old now, I can't remember when they were born. In fact they must be even older than that! Hope everything is well and good.

I have a screaming baby so back later. DS2 thinks it is way past feed time (it's not). He is going to be double the size of his sister soon.

Congratulations princess!!! yay, that's all of us now!!!

Oh egg, what a day! Don't know whether to laugh or cry for you!!!

Congratulations princess!!! yay, that's all of us now!!!

Oh egg, what a day! Don't know whether to laugh or cry for you!!!

I was coping so well, relatively. Then DH goes away for a few days and it all goes tits up.

Last week DS4 developed a breast lump, not that unusual apparently, something to do with him getting my hormones through the milk I think. Then on Saturday it started to look sore and red, Monday morning I took him to the doctor and we ended up in hospital having an abscess drained . My lovely midwife came with me though to hold my hand which made it all a bit better. So now he's on abx.

Then just now I was heading home with all the kids in the car and some tosser rear-ended us and drove off! But several lovely people came to our aid and we got home in one piece, thank god I drive a 4x4 tank (and yes I'm completely unapologetic about it!). 3 of the kids are saying they hurt though, so may be back at the GP in the morning...

DH is on his way back from his skiing now, tomorrow I think I'll just hand everything over to him and concentrate on the baby. I feel like I'm missing the newborn period cos there's too much other stuff to do

slacker, cant believe you can cope with five on your own without abcesses and car accidents... let alone with. you're clearly not only superwoman, but also a very nice person - i'm not sure i'm going to give dh the all clear to play footie on thurs pm let alone go away properley yup, hand over the other kids and get into bed with your newest.

Oh Slacker, you poor thing. Hope you are all ok.

CONGRATULATIONS PRINCESS!!!! cannot wait to hear the details!!!!!

Welcome back LADLE- hope you are well. how are your girls doing?

Were all good here- DD still sleeping from 10 til around 5am- i know i am really lucky!!! had a rough day with DS though he has been a real winging nighmare!!!!

hey ho- other than that all good!!!

Hope all well-

Slaker hope you DC's are all ok!!

Had a lovely day today, took DS to the cinema and watched vantage point and after we met up with friends for lunch in Manchester. Then things started to get worse. Got home and one boob is really sore - I think I may have a blocked duct its DS's 6 week gp check tomorrow so I will ask about it there. Also I think I slept funny last night and my neck is really sore esp after driving into manchester. Then my mum rang me and had a go at me for not telling her I was in touch with her partners kids on facebook. They fell out with him about 15 years ago, I found them on facebook and have been waiting for them to ask about their dad but they havent. I figured until they wanted to speak to him there was no point in upsetting anyone??? She had a right go at me saying I should've told her and I had no right to do it or tell them anything etc. I started crying told her I was in pain and couldn't do this right now so she hung up on me. Just know she'll ring back tomorrow to tell me off some more.

Anyway...

Congratulations to jaysthird and princess - just gas and air well done x

Egg hope today has been less eventful than yesterday

Shame about the crash slacker hope your DCs are ok

Oh alkar- sorry to hear you have had a bad day0- i am sure your mum will be ok once she has calmed down - perhaps she was just shocked at finding out after such a long time-

Hope your check goes ok with GP tomo- and your boob stops hurting real soon too!!!!

Sending cyber hugs to you!!

Thanks Sarah - I needed that x

Alkar - hope the boobs improve and sorry you're having a rough day

Slacker - I've just been moaning to myself about how hard done by I've been today managing two and all evening cause do has buggered off so I stand corrected with my hat well and truly off to you!! What an arse though driving off and leaving you. Hope the dc's are all ok tomorrow - might just be a bit of shock and aches?

On the subject of dummies, whilst they do say about trying to avoid them if you're bf, we used a tomme tippee closer to nature one from 3 wks I think and it's not caused any probs. Also, latest advice is for babies under 3mths to sleep with them anyway and more importantly it's up to you not the bloody health visitor!!!!!!! I have to say our hv is odd. She is the scattiest person in the world and loves to labour a point e.g.
HV: Is your partner violent?
Me: No
HV: But if he were you know you can get help?
Me: Yes but he's not
HV: But if he were...
Me: He really isn't
HV: OK.
Moves onto different subject then 5 mins later
HV: So just to reiterate that there is help availiable if your partner is ever violent or things get difficult in that way between you?

This is what I wanted to say:

For the love of fucking god, can we just clarify my partner is not violent, although I might be if you don't shut up???!!!!

Obviously I didn't but she was like it about ds1's attitude towards ds2 and pnd etc. I know they've got to be supportive but there's a fine line between that and disbelief!!!

Finally got all little ones to sleep so can come back on here and say thanks for the sympathy! Tyaca I am definitely not superwoman, I only cope because my other kids are that much older (coping with a preschooler and a baby is a whole lot more difficult) and also cos DH is so supportive on the domestic front. Which is why it all falls apart when he's away, but he loves his annual boys ski trip so I would have felt too mean telling him he couldn't go...

I'm going to see how the children are in the morning, when they're tired they're bound to say they ache, but after a night's sleep hopefully they'll be feeling better...my restful day tomorrow has just disappeared as DD is now expecting me to come to the school easter service, how can i refuse?! Oh well, only 2 more school days then easter hols and no school run!

I can;t remember when I last posted before tonight but congrats to the last few new mums, and also to anyone who's having trouble breastfeeding and is keeping going, it really is worth it. DS4 is not the easiest baby I've ever fed but he's getting a bit better at it, and is putting on weight at a decent rate now and growing out of his clothes!

I can't keep up with this thread, keep seeing things I want to reply to but not getting round to it. Are we having a postnatal thread now? Will try harder...

Countto10, you've just validated my decision not to see the HV even once (she was quite persistant, but has given up now)!! And yes he was a total arse doing a hit and run on us, that was the thing that upset the kids most, they don't encounter complete wankers that often. So it was good that several other people went out of their way to help us, so the kids could see that most people are nice really...

Alkar, your mum sounds like a big help, ffs! Try not to let her get to you too much, and hope your neck's better in the morning.

Ooh, DS4 has just farted himself awake, I'm on duty again!

Sitting here reading and eating the easter eggs bought for other people!

Tyaca - how dare HV tut over your use of the dummy - dummies rule! Funny that your LO is less windy with boob - other way around here! We are using the tommy tippee bottle - same as you judging from your pics. I know what you mean about smelling - I think it is nature's way of helping the babe to know who the mum is by the smell! I was having 2 showers a day - stuff nature! - much better now that bleeding has stopped - it DOES get better at 5/6 weeks - hang in there!

Slacker - skiing!!! The cheek of it! - don't let my DH know or he'll be asking if he can bugger off skiing too! I hope you are all OK after that tosser crashed into you.

LO does sleep in bed with me - that way I don't have to fully wake up at feeding time - just pull out a boob and doze off....it makes a huge difference to how tired or otherwise I feel the next day.