Feb 2008 - The Final Thread - Get a Blardy Move on Jaysthird, princessllama and tyaca!!!!!!

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Wonder how many posts we will get before we can start the post natal one.

Come on girls, keep getting jiggy and eating those curries.

countto10- SEX!........SIZE 12 CLOTHES!!!.........OUT DRINKING WITH MATES!!!!!........very impressed,and slightly !!

Hope everyone is o.k, good luck to princess!

Have put up photo of Seth and my other two.

Lo sounds like he's quacking in the other room, better go and get me t*ts out for the lad!

Tyaca - this screaming baby business is really, really hard. It would be odd if we didn't argue with our dp/dhs. Hope today is better for you both.

Count - ds1 still goes to nursery 3 days a week (he is nearly 3.5) on the days I used to work. This gives him continuity as well as all the benefits of nursery and me some time with ds2. Part of me feels that in an ideal world I would provide endless patience, stimulation, love etc for them both, but I'm not that good, so off to nursery he goes...

Princess - hope you are ok and holding your baby very soon. I never went into labour with ds1 (or ds2 for that matter!) and felt the sense of failure you describe. It's not true of course, just an early taster of mummy guilt.

Am having the archetypal bad day here. Was still not dressed, fed etc by 1.30pm and sitting in milk sodden pjs looking and feeling a mess. In the end I just left ds2 to cry while I had my shower and made myself something to eat. I just shut off emotionally to do this and then feel a surge of guilt when I finish. I know it's ok to leave them once in a while but it still feels pants.

beansprout - having one of those days here too, started off being p*ssed off with DP as he started work early and is finishing late whilst still expecting me to be up for sex despite my exhaustion. Didn't manage to get any of us dressed until I realised it was lunch time as we ended up back in bed. The moment I nodded off DD2 woke up and started screaming again.
I thought we'd cracked it with the infacol and sling but last night DD2 screamed for a few hours solid whilst I tried to make tea for DD1 and give DP time to do his application form. I ended up just putting DD2 in her bouncy chair and shutting the door so I couldn't hear her anymore
At this point DP decided to help out
Today DD2 has screamed on and off, DD1's nappy rash is worse because she's filling her nappy every hour and I am miserable.
Fed up of living in the middle of nowhere with only the DD's for company all day and DP working lots. There are times when I seriously consider moving out with the kids until DP gets a new job and we move house.
Sorry for the rant - I'm feeling fed up and I hate the fact that I end up resenting DD2 when I'm walking up and down with her screaming night after night.

joosey - you have beautiful children!

I had HV here this am, and apologised for having wet hair, untidy house etc. She was very reassuring - said wet hair means I've had a shower, and untidy house good cos I'm not overdoing it, so she was happy with that! She didn't weigh DD cos 'I don't need scales to see she's doing great'. I used to get panicky about DS' weight so it was just what I needed to hear.

I absolutely agree that when babies start to smile it really helps. It's so good to get something back. DD gives big gooey smiles already - i'll try to post a pic somtime - and it's amazing the lengths I go to to see another smile - all very good for bonding, which is so much better this time round - I'm so happy !!!!!! (if a little sore!)

Thinking of you princess...

Oh Lucy, sorry to hear you're feeling so awful (x-posts). The screaming is so hard to deal with, and seems never-ending doesn't it? Have you got any friends/family who can visit to help you out?

Lucy - you really have my full sympathy. I didn't bond with ds2 straight away and feel guilty about that. Felt double shite when I left him to cry today.

Just to cheer myself up I have been looking at the league tables and reminding myself how rubbish the local school is. This really freaks me out, I think we need to move house. Ho hum.

Off to get ds1 now.

Not much time today, have tried to scan posts as best i can... congrats to jay - fab weight and name!! Tyaca and lucy - hope things are a bit better, try bepanthen for nappy rash and good old gripe water for colic - the combo works here (at the moment anyway!). Egg, meet up idea sounds good, am up for it! Princess - any news? Am typing one handed- soz!

Sorry, forgot to say congratulations to Jay!!

Oh dear sounds like some of us are having hard days - hope tomorrow is better Lucy. Not easy when you've got more than 1 I guess but I try and get out of the house with the buggy every day and that gives a respite from the screaming and quite often it knocks him out for ages after we get back too. Stayed in today with lots of indoor tasks and he was a real handful - we were waiting at the door for DP!

Samsmam I missed your post yesterday - what a nightmare. Hope you start feeling a bit more "up" soon and l/o becomes less yellow.

Am also argiung much more with DP than normal - I am very irritable and he is very grumpy - comes in from work and can't cope with the screaming after only 5 minutes . Well I guess it would be strange if we didn't get on each others' tits....

Countto10 I too am very .... would abolutely love a night out on the bevvy- although don't feel ready to do it if that makes sense. Also all my London friends are suddenly pregnant or mums so finding partners isn't easy. Watching lots of drinking /fighting / sicking police programmes and it's really making me want to get dressed up, go dancing, and get chips and cheese at 2 in the morning. Somewhat worrying!

Are you there Pk? Hope all ok....

hi all - just caught up on posts - so princess must be having her bub right now - fantastic - hope it is all going well!! xx

jay - awestruck by the size of your LO!! v impressive xx

so many girls having a hard time - LOADS of sympathy! there is no doubt this is the hardest thing we will ever do - remind me why i went and did it again!!??? MAD woman -have tried infacol, colief, dentinox, dummy, gripe water, cranial osteo - but hey, i guess they just do cry at this age!

Am going stir crazy having no time to myself - have expressed 2 bottles worth and trying to decide where to go - would love a swim - aching all over - neck and back area -

LO is looking back at me much more today - and trying to smile - will be v pleased when i get to the 6 week milestone - next week.

So sorry so many of you are feeling shite. I have had an eventful day with a couple of times I was close to tears but most of it was laughable... Had a meltdown this morning when DS1 kept messing me around before nursery but kept telling myself I would soon be shot of him for the day.

Had a friend for the day and she brought her dog, who is still a half grown puppy, plus her 15 month old and her 3.5 year old. We had to put the dog in the garden as she was a bit excitable and not trusted with the babies. So the dog barked and barked and barked. Then a lady came and complained (she was from 2 streets away ) so we brought the dog in and took the babies upstairs. Then the police arrived saying someone had complained about the dog..........

Urgh. So anyway after we got rid of the police we had a nice time and then my friend was loading her car getting ready to go, the dog was back in the garden while we got everyone ready, and I was giving her a hand and the door slammed behind us leaving us locked out, the dog stuck in the back, friend's baby in her car, her 3 year old locked in the house and my babies locked in the house........ I didn't even have any shoes on and nobody nearby has a spare key.

Spent a while trying to get her older son to come to the door and open it. Then realised he couldn't reach, so had to get him to go back and get DS1's car to stand on so he could reach. Had to promise him a LOT of chocolate if he would do it. He managed it eventually. Phew.

Next couple of hours uneventful. Got DS1 from nursery, watched a bit of CBeebies, bathed DS1. Then fed babies at 6:30 and DS2 projectiled entire feed over himself and his bouncy chair. Cue FOURTH load of washing.

All now asleep though.

Bit worried about DD. She is not eating enough and is still so weeny. HV coming on Weds so will ask her honest opinion.

Countto10, if you are still reading after all that...

DS1 is at nursery from 9am to 5pm on Mondays and Thursdays. I was sorely tempted to send him for a third day but decided to send DTs for a day instead. He has only just turned two though and will send him for longer when he is three as a) will get a bit of money off from govt and b) he is a bit older. He would be perfectly happy but they are loooong days and are also BLOOMING EXPENSIVE. Would not hesitate to send him 5 mornings a week at age 3.5 though. I feel like because I have a break from him I appreciate my time with him more and am more patient with him (sometimes)!!!!

Anyone still awake after reading my long post?

Oh, and DD went for 8.5 hours last night between feeds. From 9pm til 5:30am. On the one hand it is great, but she needs to eat MORE not less and had puked up half her 9pm feed as it was (did not realise this as DH had fed her), so in hindsight I should have woken her and fed her when DS2 fed at 3am. Ah well... hoping she will start eating more when she is less snotty .

So sorry so many of you are feeling shite. I have had an eventful day with a couple of times I was close to tears but most of it was laughable... Had a meltdown this morning when DS1 kept messing me around before nursery but kept telling myself I would soon be shot of him for the day.

Had a friend for the day and she brought her dog, who is still a half grown puppy, plus her 15 month old and her 3.5 year old. We had to put the dog in the garden as she was a bit excitable and not trusted with the babies. So the dog barked and barked and barked. Then a lady came and complained (she was from 2 streets away ) so we brought the dog in and took the babies upstairs. Then the police arrived saying someone had complained about the dog..........

Urgh. So anyway after we got rid of the police we had a nice time and then my friend was loading her car getting ready to go, the dog was back in the garden while we got everyone ready, and I was giving her a hand and the door slammed behind us leaving us locked out, the dog stuck in the back, friend's baby in her car, her 3 year old locked in the house and my babies locked in the house........ I didn't even have any shoes on and nobody nearby has a spare key.

Spent a while trying to get her older son to come to the door and open it. Then realised he couldn't reach, so had to get him to go back and get DS1's car to stand on so he could reach. Had to promise him a LOT of chocolate if he would do it. He managed it eventually. Phew.

Next couple of hours uneventful. Got DS1 from nursery, watched a bit of CBeebies, bathed DS1. Then fed babies at 6:30 and DS2 projectiled entire feed over himself and his bouncy chair. Cue FOURTH load of washing.

All now asleep though.

Bit worried about DD. She is not eating enough and is still so weeny. HV coming on Weds so will ask her honest opinion.

Countto10, if you are still reading after all that...

DS1 is at nursery from 9am to 5pm on Mondays and Thursdays. I was sorely tempted to send him for a third day but decided to send DTs for a day instead. He has only just turned two though and will send him for longer when he is three as a) will get a bit of money off from govt and b) he is a bit older. He would be perfectly happy but they are loooong days and are also BLOOMING EXPENSIVE. Would not hesitate to send him 5 mornings a week at age 3.5 though. I feel like because I have a break from him I appreciate my time with him more and am more patient with him (sometimes)!!!!

Anyone still awake after reading my long post?

Oh, and DD went for 8.5 hours last night between feeds. From 9pm til 5:30am. On the one hand it is great, but she needs to eat MORE not less and had puked up half her 9pm feed as it was (did not realise this as DH had fed her), so in hindsight I should have woken her and fed her when DS2 fed at 3am. Ah well... hoping she will start eating more when she is less snotty .

the world's longest and dullest post and I do it twice.

Sorry .

Oh and I second what Gill said. If you are feeling shite, get yourself and the baby out of the house every day and it really does make you feel better. Forces you to get dressed, gets you some fresh air, nearly always sends the baby to sleep, and gets you a bit of exercise too! This is of course not possible if you have other DCs too.

I used to walk DS1 for up to 3 hours a day when he was little as only way to get him to take a proper lunchtime nap.

oh egg what a day!!!!!!!

Egg, I agree about the getting out of the house even if you have others if you can manage it as it seems to help calm them down. We, and what possessed me to do this I'm not really sure, got a bus into town today to the new shopping centre that's opened, had some lunch and wondered around and ds1 was the best behaved he's been for a couple of weeks so not only am I convinced about the preschool as well as nursery but for the time being I'm gonna try and get out every day.

Sorry there's some yukky days out there but do keep coming in even just to moan. I thought to myself today that I really wish I'd had this support the first time round cause although I've got a lot of friends with kids, it's very different to a lot of people who have been pg and then had babies the same time as you. The number of times I've spent all day stressing about something and then come in here to read several people saying the same thing and it's made me feel so much better - I hope that's the same for everyone else. It's also great just to bang out all the frustration and irritation in a message and post it - relieves some of it in a way. I agree with the first 6 wks being the hardest as you're adjusting and so are they and it takes a while for their systems to calm down regardless of whether you are bf or not.

Yikes Egg. Well at least you didn't lock the dog in with the babies! Our friends locked their 2 year old in with the power drill lying out .

LO is SO lively today. No sign of slowing up but at least lying on his playmat while he gurgles and kicks. Just not got the energy to bounce him around as much as he wants.

Egg - that's the kind of day that should be ended with a large glass of wine and bar of choccie so I hope you're having at least one of them!!

Princess - any news?

Beans - any chance you'd be able to go to a school outside of your catchment area? Our local school isn't the best so we've contacted the next and luckily they take outside so we're hoping to get in there.

Lucy - sorry you're having such a rough time. I remember feeling very much like that with ds1 in the first few weeks. It doesn't help when you're tired. I've felt like that with ds2 as well the 50th time he's woken up and I just want to scream at him for the love of god will you just go to sleep!!! You're doing the right thing leaving dd2 for a bit after the screaming sessions. You are only human.

SOOOO PLEASED TO PASS ON THIS MESSAGE FROM PL....

Just had the baby! Just under 9lbs. Managed with g and a only. We're all ok x

Big congrats to you both...finally! X X

Fab news - congrats princess, hope you're all well x

lucy sorry to hear how bad it is. can you get to some mum and baby group? my lo was scrwaming all day and all night. i went to a bf group and they improved my latch etc but best of all i saw other babies screaming and that helped me alot

WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Great news princess. I needed a smile this morning after unsettled babies in night.

Looking forward to hearing more. Did she know if she was having a boy or a girl?

Thanks Jay for letting us know .

Congrats to PL- Can't wait to hear news on boy or girl and name......

I've had an unsettled night too, what do you do when DD1- 17 months is unwell with a cold and wakes at 3am and so do LO for fed, thats when breastfeeding is soooo difficult.

Woo-hoo PL!! Congratulations!!!!

Egg - Blimey, what a day!! Nightmare!! Glad it was al ok. What a horrible moment though. You ok?

After a hideous day yesterday, ds2 slept for 7 hours so am feeling a lot better today. Will be going out later which is always preferable to staying in all day - when will I learn?!!
Ds1 cheered me up with his Ha-Hoo impression last night. Bless him.

Lucy - hope today is better for you.

Sorry Samsmum - x-post. That sounds rough. Hope you are ok.

Count - will look into schools, thanks for giving me hope!!

Firstly - congrats to PL, hope to read your birth story soon!

Thankyou to everyone for your support, I talked everything over with DP on the phone and when he came home he looked after DD2 without me having to ask & didn't complain once. Later on when he congratulated me as he doesn't know how I manage with two. It made me feel a bit better! DD2 was better last night after a brief bout of screaming, I found carrying her a different way seemed to help and I even got a decent nights sleep by putting her next to me in bed.She went over 3 hours each time and stayed asleep until DD1 woke up (a first in ages) DD2 has started smiling just for me which has cheered me up lots. It's amazing what a decent nights sleep and a couple of gummy smiles can do for you!