Feb 2008 - The Final Thread - Get a Blardy Move on Jaysthird, princessllama and tyaca!!!!!!

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Wonder how many posts we will get before we can start the post natal one.

Come on girls, keep getting jiggy and eating those curries.

Princess, hooray! This is it now, so good luck I am going offline for the next few days so will miss out on your event. But do be sure to turn the lights off when you leave...
Best of luck, Princess. I'm looking forward to catching up with your birth story.

Oh wow is this it!! Come on Princess, remember to breathe..... oh its all coming back to me now.

I feel quite emotional at the thought of our last baby being on its way Big pushing vibes for you Princess, lots of love to you and your family at a very exciting time

Tyaca i don't think it's you that smells, it'll be your lo and its called "neck cheese" our james reekes of it sometimes, we use the smelly baby wipes to keep his neck fresh!

GO PRINCESS GO! Hope your baby might even be here by now!

Good luck .

Ugh my two stink of neck cheese. Esp Fatty as he has so many rolls for it to get stuck in. I spent ages while bathing them yesterday getting them clean but it only takes one feed where they dribble or puke and it collects again. Bleurgh.

Right, DS1 and I are off to a party at lunch so I have to go and make myself look "beautiful"...

tyaca just read your post. Poor poor you. Hope you are feeling a bit better now. DH and I argue so much more since DTs although been a bit better this last week now they are sleeping a bit more. I know it is not everyone's cup of tea, but when mine scream and scream if I put them in the cot and leave them they do go quiet after 10 mins normally, whereas if I keep holding them and then putting them back down etc they never stop. I have had to ask MIL etc when here NOT to keep picking them up as it means they never settle.

Of course this NEVER worked for DS1 though. I totally know how you feel. He never settled anywhere whereas these two will fall asleep wherever you put them down as long as they aren't hungry etc.

Hi all,
PL- good luck if you are still around.

I am still lurking- I really want to get my birth story posted.
I have had a difficult first few weeks. In and out of hospital for jaundice with LO. She hasn't had to have treatment yet but I keep getting sent for testing with her because she is still yellow.
I have suffered with huge drop in hormones and have been very low. Midwife has ordered me to see GP!

DP and I are also arguing lots...... glad I am not the only one. I may only lurk and read posts but you lot certainly do help me.

Hope there is news on PL soon. Its quite exciting.......

PL-so excited for you, post as soon as you can!
Tyaca - infacol and freedom sling. These two things have made my life so much easier that I cannot recommend them enough. DD2 started the week screaming all day & evening long after being a calm baby so I was shocked. After a few days in infacol she calmed down again and she sleeps in the sling for hours, it calms her down in the evenings when she starts crying and we can get out of the house without any trouble.

In infacol? hmm, that would be strange

pl good luck

samsmam - ugh, poor you, was the GP helpful?

lucyand2 - tried infancol a couple of days ago and she became v pukey, stopped but she still pukey, so may try again . was thinking of getting a pouch sling for inside the flat.

ty all for nice words, esp those also arguing with dp/h's. egg - can you really leave little ones for 10min?? dd gets so hysterical, i dont think i can. dh always trying to get me to for five min, but she just gets more and more upset and i give in cause it seems like she's getting a lot worse rather than turning corner and getting calmer.

and ty for neck cheese info, where's the dignity? i knew this would be a bit disgusting but i really had no idea just how much i would drip stuff, how much lo would drip stuff etc etc

Good luck Princess!!!!

Lucy- i am usng DENTINOX- Colic drops- found them much more effective than infacol!!!!

hope everyone is ok

Hi. Quick post as i want to get into bed for a nap.

Am much happier now am giving Katie 2 bottles a day in addition to breastfeeding. My nipples are having a nice rest!

Princess - lots of luck and hope all goes well.

Tyaca - oh dear, you are going through the mill at the moment. Try to remember that your LO has just arrived in a new country and needs time to settle. We swaddled Katie and its working well. If you need a rest, give her a bottle. My DH wants me to breastfeed more and i've put my foot down and said no, it's too painful and I need to sleep more than 2 hours in a row. I don't think that our DH's/DP's understand enough about the pain involved in breastfeeding. Try biting DH's/DP's finger and ask him how he likes it! (Did it to mine and it quietened him down for a little bit!) Call your midwife every day if need be, its ok to ask for help.

Tyaca - LO's distressed cos you and DP are distressed. Ban visitors until YOU want them - even if DP wants people, he's not the one who needs to rest cos your body is working hard producing milk. Please, please speak to your midwife/health visitor about how you are feeling "breaking you down piece by piece". I felt like that on Thursday night - Katie needed her 3rd feed in 4 hours and i couldn't lift my head off the pillow. DH had to hold for an hour while she was crying - cos i had to sleep. There are ways to deal with this.

Tyaca I think it is easier to leave them because I have DS1 to worry about and it is easier to leave the babies than leave him!

And also because I have had to leave them (even if only cos I am feeding one and until recently couldn't feed both at once) they have got used to being left to cry at times and so normally eventually go quiet (sometimes it takes a while but I am hard as nails me...).

I honestly could NEVER have left DS1 and would not have "condoned" it as felt it was mean, but some of the time I really have no choice as can't deal with all three DCs at once.

Feed times are all over the shop today and so next feed due before 9pm, which means they may well end up needing two "night" feeds and I am not happy. Am hoping and praying they can get to 2am and then they might make 6am which is not too bad. If they want feeding again at 5am or earlier it will all go pear shaped and I will be dead on my feet, and I have a friend coming tomorrow with her two boys AND dog.

Samsmam, hope you start feeling better soon. I so wish I had known about MN when I had DS1 as I would have felt so much better knowing loads of other people felt as cack as me. Thankfully I had some good friends from my ante natal group so we could share our misery but I think I seemed to feel worse than them . But it did get better!!!

Righto. Time to make bottles for the night etc.

hi, still with child-sigh. cx got to 7 min apart last night then disappeared. have been on/off all day getting more spaced out but much stronger. the good news is that the latest monitoring showed the baby was healthy and i'm now 3 cm dilated. another sweep and more acupuncture. plan is to go in at 9am tomorrow if nothing happens before and will have waters broken and see what happens for a few hours. there's chicken pox going round and i'm crossing all limbs that lo doesn't get it in next few weeks.
samsmam, good to hear from you, hope your gp will be helpful, he has been before hasn't he? really good to know they're listening to you.
lovemymum good ploy biting dh's finger, i'll remember that one
cheered myself up last night by buying the hug a bub sling, wish i'd done it before as can't think when i'll get the chance to watch the instruction dvd-mind you, you wouldn't want to mess up and drop the precious bundle!

Oh princess - I really thought that was it for you. I'm sure it still is, but sorry things aren't moving any quicker. I hope you're getting lots of rest. I had 3 days of contractions like that, but the 3rd day was it for me. There's still hope before you have to go into hosp in the morning. Babies are very good at coming at night! Chickenpox is going around here too - have been trying to keep DD (3 wks) away but fortunately DS has had it so we shouldn't have it in the house IYSWIM.

Egg - I know what you mean about being able to leave a baby (babies!) to cry when you have an older DS to look after. I'm finding it much easier to ignore DD's cry, but still feel a bit guilty about it. There were times when I did leave DS to cry, when I just couldn't cope any more, but I really beat myself up about it. So Tyaca, please learn from our experiences - your DD will be absolutely fine for 10 mins or as long as you need. It's far better for you to have a little time out and go back to her feeling refreshed (if only a bit!) than to just keep going with no break when you're feeling bad. Is the feeding getting any easier yet? I hope so.

Lovemymum - glad your nips are getting a rest. Good for you making the decision to give formula if that's what feels right. I'm determined not to get myself in such a pickle about exclusively breastfeeding this time. Last time I really struggled (probably PND) for the first couple of months and really could have done with the odd break by using formula, but felt pressured, mostly by myself, not to give DS any formula at all. In the end I got in such a state and ended up hating breastfeeding & changing to 100% bottlefeeding, cold turkey, at 3 months. Things will be different this time .

samsmam - so sorry to hear you've been feeling low, but glad you recognise it, because there is help out there. Let us know how you get on with the GP and keep checking in.

I too will post my birth story eventually. I have to say I've given up on the idea of catching up with the posts I missed - sorry! I will try to keep up from now on though. DD is 3 weeks old, but I feel as though we're only just getting going. I'm hoping that once my metronizadole anti-b's and our thrush treatments are finished, things will get better still and I'll be up and about a bit more & have more time for mumsnet too.

still there princess? fingers crossed you get there yourself before tomorrow morning... GOOD LUCK!

Wow Jay congratulations on your big baby! Haven't read your birth story yet but am sure there's much to be proud of.

Ginger thanks for your concerns - I'm fine just live to eat and feel lost without food . Anyway thankfully all is back to normal and I have managed my first easter egg today and shortly going to pop out for a magnum.

Tyaca you do have a way with words. There is something so destructive that the crying does to your soul isn't there? Ok this could be controversial but you could always try a dummy if she's still screaming non-stop. It really works for DS a lot of the time. Obviously there are downsides but worth considering!

Egg DS has very deep folds around his chubby neck and I just can't get into them to clean... oh well...

Survived our first traffic jam with DS last night - an hour stuck on the M1 and he screamed but we all lived to tell the tale!

Right domesticity calls (actually probably the magnum trip) so am away. Oh BTW am writing this on brand spanking new laptop with wireless broadband so you may all be seeing a bit more of me!

Wow, princess, go girl go really hope it happens naturally for you!

Hi guys, haven't been on for a week or so and it feels like an eternity!!! Hope everyone is well.

Firstly Tyaca et al - congrats on new delivs and for those of you still waiting, labour wishes heading your way x

Tyaca - she's beautiful!! Sorry to hear you're having a rough time of it. I have only scanned posts so far so if I'm behind then correct me but if you're still bf and engorged (the concrete bra!!!) have you tried warm compresses before feeding/expressing. I find that when I'm at that stage if I do this it helps get rid of some so ds2 can latch on properly. Re screaming and uncomfortableness, a dummy can provide great comfort and stop her trying to feed purely for comfort which can worsen any stomach pain she's got. When she is really bad, do you find she's slghtly relieved if she's on her tummy? If so you could lay her on your arm whilst rocking or on your lap and rub her back which might help? It's heart rending listening to screaming and hard for you especially if you're on your own and tired etc. I'm not ashamed to say that I really screamed at ds1 once when he was about 3 wks old after a few very rough days and it wasn't cause I was cross at him more frustrated with myself for not being able to help him. We've used infacol with both ours and they were more pukey after having it. If it continues have you thought about cranial ostepoathy? My friend had this and she swears by it so could be worth a look into? Hope you;re ok and if it's any consolation, me and dp are arguing too!!!!

All is starting to settle again here. Ds2 is finally over his cold so everything else seems to be getting better. We're having regular nappies and not so much puking or screaming - phew!! Only prob we have now is the 2hrs it takes to get him to go to sleep in the evenings! Have worked out though it's cause he's not sleeping properly during the day at the mo and if he doesn't have his bath early enough in his last feed cycle, he doesn't settle properly and we've lost it!! I would totally recommend johnson nightime baby bath and the massage lotion, we use both and ds2 really seems to like it.

Will endevour to catch up now!!!

Have added a couple of photos - one of Daniel with his canula (sp?) and also in shower...he's so cute!

I'm with you all on the DP/DH front. When you're tired everything is a million times worse. And what is it with us lot...we soldier on and soldier on until it all gets too much...and no-one blooming well notices!!!! Maybe we should start voicing our feelings more???

Before I forget we've had our six week checks and all fine. Anyone used the mini pill? We're surprisingly having sex again and neither of us like condoms but neither of us our wanting to get pg again!! The normal pill makes me put on weight and call me vein but I don't really want to put on anymore weight than I already have done!! Just wondered what peoples experiences were of the minipill.
I'm also at the awkard clothing stage - why can't shops do half sizes? I'm a 12 on top which is fine but I need a 12/14 on bottom - none of my maternity stuff fits!! Moan moan moan!! Went out for the first time with the girls friday night. Had expressed for england with a small top up of formula in each bottle and I enjoyed a few drinks. It was so liberating and all the frustrations that had been building up just melted away. It was so nice just to get out with no children and smell of something other than stale milk or baby sick!!!

oooo also, is anyone's first child/children under school age at nursery/pre-school every day? Ds1 goes to a day nursery for two mornings 8-1 and now e've been offered a place at the local pre-school for the other 3 mornings 9-11.30. Ds2 is 3.5 and exhausting. I just can't keep him occupied in the way he demands and I can't go out all day every day either!! I just feel a bit guilty about him being out every morning and wondered what others were doing?

Hi all. Agree with you Egg that sometimes it works to leave babies to settle for a short time when they're screaming - I had to be firm with my mother in law about leaving him to settle himself - 'step away from the crying baby'. She thinks I'm cruel but it's so good that he can settle down to sleep on his own. Also agree that too many visitors can make for a really unsettled night.

I got the hug a bub sling and my hubbie refuses to use it after looking at the dvd - lovely hippy dippy australian mums - i love it though!

Right I'm off to bite his finger reallly hard!

Hi all - good luck princess although you're probably away by now!

Countto10 - both of my older 2 boys are at pre-school nursery 9.15 to 11.45 every morning. They absolutely love it!!! They really miss it at the weekends. DS1 is 5 and DS2 is almost 3.5 and they really drive me mad when they're here all day as they take a lot of entertaining (especially ds1 who likes you to play with him all the time). I wouldn't feel guilty about him being out every morning - I've found their confidence really grows and they really come on with nursery. Also it's a good stepping stone for school. DS1 will start school in
August and he's really ready for it now and excited about it.

I'm sorry some of you are feeling low - I agree with the others that lack of sleep has a lot to answer for!! I think the first 6 - 8 weeks are the worst (particularly when you're bf) so hang in there everyone! Once they start smiling etc it makes it all worthwhile.

CountTo10 my DS1 is about the same age as yours and he goes to nursery every mon/tues for a full day, don't feel guilty they love it, there aren't enough hours in the day to keep him occupied and he has a ball there, he does yoga today and swimming tomorrow as well. I think at that age they can start getting a bit cheeky/naughty/frustrated and it's good for him to have to listen and do as he is told by other adults, the extra discipline wont do him any harm either.

I've had my 6 week check already and i'm having the implant fitted in a couple of weeks, apparently you get the same side effects(if any) as you do with the mini-pill, and i have always been ok with that.

Princess are you still there? who's letting us know how you get on when your baby's on its way xxx