Aug 2021 - 2nd Trimester continues

[Alittlexmasmagic]

Hi everyone, another thread begins & things are getting real now 😄 x

@PurplePansy05
Personally I found a car seat that clips into a buggy a god send. But you’re right they’re only the ones they can use for a limited time (we switched at about a year for ease)

We didn’t have a spin one for the infant seat but we do now. It’s great when they are older and I probably would have got one with that feature for newborn but there wasn’t one that existed that clips on to the buggy. The cybex one does though.

We Intended to get the next stage car seat to the infant one in order to use the same base but we ended up getting an all in one (cybex sirona s which I LOVE) but it’s worked out well because now we can use the old base when this baby arrives. If we were still using it we would have to buy another one anyway.

We also have the joie spin 360 which is great too. I think the cybex has a slightly better safety rating but in my eyes they’re much of a muchness.

When we have been on holiday most airlines let you take a couple of baby items for free. We have always taken pram and our own car seat as have heard horror stories about rental seats. We have a bright orange travel bag for the car seat (Amazon search car seat travel bag) and we drop it at oversize luggage) the infant seats can usually be fixed into the car with the seat belt so we didn’t need to take the base (so a car seat with this feature is really useful) but as the cybex sirona s has it attached, we took the whole thing when we travelled last year. They’re bulky and a pain but with a airport trolley it’s fine. Just make sure there’s not a long walk to car rental! For a taxi you don’t need a car seat. I’ve never seen one on a plane and you would have to buy a seat for them anyway. I think it’s more common in America but I wouldn’t bother. Long haul you can get the bulkhead seats and short haul they just sit on your lap.

My ds is in the joie spin 360 and has been since about 9months - he's now 3
We have the silvercross simplicity and isofix Base for car for him that fits on the pram too but tbh we really didn't use it all that much on the pram. Especially as guidance now says they shouldn't sleep in the car seat or be in it for very long. It was handy for things like popping in for a loaf of bread or his baby clinic appts when he was first born.
We are planning on using it again for this baby all being well and hopefully ds getting a other year out of the joie before baby swapping to it. (Ds is 90th centile for height so we might not get another year out of it for him mind u!)

Holiday wise we didn't travel abroad for the first year after ds was born- nicu baby and for us we would have been travelling on 2 planes each way to stay with my in laws which I wasnt ready for! So after this point we just used pram and then they told us they bought a car seat for ds when we were there.
Next time we travel to them though I will be buying 2 joie car seats here (maybe bold or stages as they last longer) and bringing them with me and then will just leave them there as they only later told us that they bought said car seat for ds off fb marketplace which Im not happy with - I had offered to pay for a new car seat at the time but they insisted that it was OK they had borrowed one from a family member. Luckily when we are there we rarely use the car anyway as it's a big European town and we can get around by walking / train of needed.
Only thing with car seats I would say though is our hospital insists on seeing a baby strapped into car seat before you are allowed to leave the ward which isn't possible with the likes of the spin.

Hi 👋 👋 👋
My 20 week scan isn't due for another week. I thought I was feeling a butterfly/bubbling feeling but its not consistent. My boobs no longer hurt when walking down the stairs etc. Sickness isn't as bad thankfully but still can't eat all the food I want without feeling sick. Suppose I'm just a bit worried at 19 weeks that I can't properly feel the baby move everyday as some people can. I've had no bleeding/pain so its probably just mr worrying. X

Oo also I've been measuring my bump every week and its growing so I'm guessing its a good sign. I just want to feel the baby to reassure me.. is anyone the same

@Ghhh I'm 21+3 and still can't feel anything. Had my 20 week scan on 25th March and she said she wouldn't expect me to feel anything for another week or so due to placenta position (still waiting 🙄). Do you know if your placenta is at the front?

Ooh car seat questions, I can do those :o

Pram compatability - this is totally personal preference. I really liked it but I didn't have it the first time around and didn't really miss it TBH except when I wanted to get a lift one way and a bus back or vice versa. It's useful if you'll be in and out of the car several times in one trip. Thinking about it, we do this more in Germany than we did in the UK (we live further from town here so often drive in for multiple errands). Bear in mind the car seat isn't ideal for them as they can't stretch out so you wouldn't want to use it all the time, you will need a lie flat pushchair or carrycot as well. Also, because a car seat is quite upright you have recommended time limits to avoid the risk of positional asphyxiation. 0-4 weeks (corrected for premature babies) up to 30 minutes in one stretch, 4 weeks+ up to 2 hours in one stretch. You only need to take them out for a few minutes but you should keep these time limits in mind. A lie flat seat does not negate the advice, as none of them are totally flat.

Yes, only infant carriers or car cots are pram compatible.

It doesn't matter if you start with an infant carrier or go straight to a from-birth seat which will last them longer :) But all infant carriers are designed from newborn whereas some of the combination seats aren't designed very well for newborns. (Joie 360 is fine unless your baby is very small.)

If you have a fixed seat you can just explain this to the hospital - they can't stop you from leaving! They may want you to use the pram to take the baby down for safety reasons or come to look at the car to check you have one, but in a lot of places they will just let you leave.

Most people get a separate seat when they are travelling so they can bring something more lightweight and cheaper in case it gets damaged or something which is plane seat compatible. Realistically, since we have no idea what's happening with travel, I would just wait and see how old baby is when you next book something and cross that bridge when you come to it.

I don't think the swivel function is useful at all with a newborn if you have an infant carrier. You would normally get them into the seat in the house and then take it to the car anyway. For a fixed from-birth seat, it's probably useful? To be honest I think the swivel system is most useful for the older baby/toddler stage!

The only difference between a 360 degree swivel vs 180 degree swivel is whether or not the seat allows you to forward face. So it depends if you're set on extended rear facing or whether you definitely want to forward face at some point before 18kg (about 4 years) or haven't made your mind up yet and want the option. FWIW it is much safer to rear face for the whole lifespan of the seat. The Joie spin seats don't have great leg room rear facing, which isn't a safety issue but bothers some people.

Joie i-Level is not a swivel seat, unless they've released a new one I'm not aware of? The original Joie i-Level works with the i-Base LX, which will take a toddler seat - Joie i-Quest. However this is not swivel either.

Joie are a good option apart from the leg room issue as said :)

Cybex Cloud Z is a gorgeous seat with great features, but personally I struggle with the pricing of it! Especially once you add the Sirona on as well - it's over £600 for the whole set. But if that's not a problem to you, go for it as it's defo one of the best options on the market right now.

The only thing I'd say about the modular systems with an infant seat + base + toddler seat is that they can be a false economy if you have a second child or a big/tall child. And a lot of times the cost of a modular system is higher than buying an infant seat with base then buying a toddler seat which doesn't need a base. The majority of them don't.

The only seat of the one you've mentioned that can be belt fitted is Cybex Cloud Z. The others are all isofix only, either with a built in isofix fitting or with the corresponding base.

Maxi Cosi are about to release in about 2-3 weeks a swivel set with an infant carrier and toddler seat that go onto a base which swivels. It's called their Family 360 set. So I'd hold tight for that as that may be worth a look as well.

@daffodil21 not been told about the placenta. Did you only get told at 20.week scan.

I'll mention it next week and see what they say x

@Ghhh they didn't mention it at either of my NHS scans (until I did) but I've had private scans and they told me there. I did mention it at my 20 week scan and she did confirm, but didn't say anything about it until I asked about movements

@Ghhh @Daffodil21 mine have only just started and they are quite faint - I have to be sitting somewhere quietly to notice them. My bump is still pretty small too. I’ve read lots of people who don’t feel anything until 22/23 weeks with their first.

Re cat seats, a friend told me you can get adapters to fit lots of car seats to any pram base.

Yay this morning is the first time I and OH have been able to see baby moving from outside 🥰🥺 feels so special
Also today is my DS 6th birthday so very emotional about that!

Thanks @LottSE20 I'm trying not to worry yet. I've got a midwife app on Tuesday where she'll check the heartbeat, and I'm sure I'll book another private scan at some point soon.

@lucyrp that's lovely! Happy birthday to your DS

@BertieBotts I am so glad I've asked. You are spot on, Joie iLevel do not come with swivel base! I got it wrong, sorry all, I think in my head I was so convinced the Joies just do and the base looked very similar! Thanks so much. I do want this feature with my bad back from newborn all the way through having read all your opinions.

I completely agree re prices, I worked out the Cybex combo would be in excess of £600. But buying an infant seat and then say Joie 360 comes in at around £550 anyway! Car seats are one thing DH and I agreed not to save on, they need to be safe and practical. I said before that I might need 2 seats for both our cars but now we've talked about what we might do re nursery drop offs and pick ups and I think we will buy a cheaper seat for one car just in case, but still use the main one as much as poss. The spare will be good for travel, as you've suggested. So following from that, the Cybex Cloud Z really makes sense, I think.

I am aware of the guidelines re how long the baby should be in a seat. I am definitely not buying a travel system as such, however an infant seat that would allow for a quick trip to the doctors/local shop and that I could carry or clip in could be handy, I think. So another point for Cybex, I suppose.

I always liked MaxiCosi seats and that's fab news they're releasing one! As you know so much about the seats and also live in Germany, any news re whether their new seat will have the ADAC rating? I know they test only selected seats. I do trust this rating and personally would choose Cybex over MaxiCosi if the latter didn't have the rating.

Thank you all so much for your practical views, you've given me lots of food for thought and a lot more clarity as to how I want to use the seat(s), super helpful 💐🙏 xx

Hope everyone’s enjoyed the sunshine today
Totally over indulged in chocolate today having not fancied it at all through 1st trimester.
Do we need to think about a new thread?!
I can’t remember exactly when cut off is? Has anyone got the EDD list to kick it off?

@HopefulB it cuts off at 1k, so yes we should!

Not sure who has the list but can I be added - EDD 12th August with a boy 💙

I have the list but it's missing some details/not up to date, sorry! I've been updating in the last couple of weeks though, sorry if I missed anything.

Please update as needed. xx

@wimbler - EDD 29 July, surprise 💛
@Champson - EDD 22 August (but really June/July), TBC 💖💖💖
@coffeeandrainbows1- EDD 4 August (but most likely July), Boy 💙
@Jessicapebbles - EDD 5 August (but having C-section at 39 weeks, so really July), Girl 💖
@Smurf123 - EDD 5 August (but likely to be July) 💛
@WhatEvenIsSleep - EDD 2 August, Boy 💙
@Smushty14 - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Rattyclife - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Biscuitcat - EDD 10 August, surprise 💛
@ElonaWise - EDD 11 August, TBC 💛
@Runnergirl123 - EDD 11 August, TBC 💛
@PurplePansy05 - EDD 12 August, Boy 💙
@Srtdr - EDD 12 August, surprise 💛
@Daffodil21 - EDD 12 August, Boy 💙
@Inmypjsagain - EDD ???, Boy 💙
@BananaHammock23 - EDD 13 August, surprise 💛
@MrsB2019x - EDD 13 August, Girl 💖
@Magik01 - EDD 13 August, Boy 💙
@Carefree1 - EDD 15 August, Girl 💖
@DressyGerbera - EDD 15 August, surprise 💛
@lucyrp - EDD 16 August, undecided 💛
@BertieBotts - EDD 16 August, want to know! 💛
@WolfMother326 - EDD 17 August, surprise 💛
@Caz1226 - EDD 17 August, Boy 💙
@Lille4 - EDD 17 August, TBC 💛
@Redskinsucks - EDD 17 August, TBC 💛
@RockyRockyRoad - EDD 18 August, can't wait to find out 💛
@Smallbean27 - EDD 19 August, surprise 💛
@WatermelonKisses - EDD 20 August, surprise 💛
@Alittlexmasmagic - EDD 22 August, surprise 💛
@Millymay13 - EDD 22 August, TBC 💛
@Whatshouldbemyusername - EDD 22 August, surprise 💛
@LottSE20 - EDD 22 August, TBC 💛
@Notinthestarsigns - EDD 23 August, TBC 💛
@LaceyMermaid - EDD 24 August, TBC 💛
@Fran919 - EDD 25 August, surprise 💛
@northernsquirrel - EDD 26 August, surprise 💛
@LyraShaeLilly - EDD 27 August, can't wait to find out 💛
@ame88 - EDD 28 August, TBC 💛
@diamante11 - EDD 29 August, Girl 💖
@HopefulB - EDD 29 August, TBC 💛
@CountryGirl84 - EDD 29 August, TBC 💛

@Dia12 - what is your EDD? 💖 Girl

@HopefulB how weird, I totally went off chocolate too and have only just started to fancy it again (which is handy as I have been hiding a little stash since Christmas/Birthday so my DH didn’t eat all my presents 😂).

No the ADAC test won't be out in time. As they are releasing the seat in April and the ADAC tests come out in May. But I wouldn't have any worries at all about Maxi Cosi seats - they tend to get excellent ratings. It looks like it's based on their Pebble and Pearl seats which are really good. I will let you know as soon as I come across any info about it!

You can update me to boy on the list :) I'm not sure we have enough posts for everyone to update before the next thread :o

Thanks, Bertie!

Is anyone planning to have a photoshoot with your LO? DH and I have provisionally booked one. Most are very expensive tbh! But I found one with great reviews and offering full digital package 35-40 photos with all printing and publishing rights for the same price as many other photographers do for 10-15 photos. I am half decent at amateur photography and also have friends who are pretty good so I think we'll only splash out on the newborn shoot as I'd like to create a full album for him myself xx

@BertieBotts thank you for all the info! We've got an appointment at an independent nursery shop in a couple of weeks, so really useful to have some food for thought in advance.

Thinking of prams, does anyone know anything about the Mountain Buggy Swift V3? My SIL (the loopy one! Who despite her flaws is very generous) is sending us hers but I know very little about it!

Also, has anyone started looking at cot mattresses? I'm totally overwhelmed by all the options! Currently wondering about the John Lewis spring one or maybe the IKEA Jattetrott but I don't know if we should splash out on a really expensive one, it's so confusing! I was thinking that going mid range may be sensible because hopefully baby will be in their own bed to free up the cot again for baby number 2 before they could get more than about 2/3 years of use from the mattress.

Also, I had a little panic and was hoping someone could reassure me! At my 20 week scan, my placenta was in the right place - how likely is it that it might drop and become something like placenta praevia if it looks OK at 20 weeks?

Oh and @PurplePansy05 sorry I got so wrapped up in my wonders and worries I forgot to answer you! I don't think we'll do a photo shoot, but mainly because I really don't like being on camera. Plus, my mum loves getting her camera out so I think she'll take plenty of photos where I can be much more honest about what I think about them for free!

Impossible for the placenta to move down if I understand correctly. It attaches to the uterus wall, so it's not going anywhere. That's why you need to be extra careful about infection after birth because you essentially have a big wound internally where it has detached.

Mountain Buggy pushchairs have a really good reputation and seem to be great build quality. Only thing is you may prefer parent facing from newborn, but it seems like it's compatible with a carrycot. And you could always keep it for 6m+ anyway.

I never really thought too much about cot mattresses and always went for the cheapest

@biscuitcat I know what you mean, I'm thinking to focus on him and just have a handful of photos with DH and I with him. I doubt we'd recreate some of the shots easily.

Re your placenta I think it's more likely to move earlier on in pregnancy and after that it grows. Mine was checked at 20 weeks and the sonographer told me that she was looking specifically at the location and whether part of it is likely to end up low down after it grows more, so placenta praevia. Mine is posterior and she took measurements of where it is now and my cervix and wasn't concerned at all. Was yours quite low down, did they tell you? xx

And re cot mattresses, I've not read about that yet. We have actually ordered Chicco Air Next to Me on offer which comes with its own mattress, so we're sorted for around 6 months. But interested to hear about the actual cot mattresses for later xx

@biscuitcat not started looking at mattresses yet - I'm still undecided between a next to me and a normal cot against the wall😂

I think your placenta can move, but it's likely to move up, not down. (www.tommys.org/pregnancy-information/pregnancy-complications/low-lying-placenta-placenta-praevia) The link is if you have a low lying placenta but it explains what happens.

@PurplePansy05 I hadn't even thought of it tbh! But now I think about it, it would be nice. DH is even less of a fan of the camera than me so I fear if we don't get 'set up' ones done we'll never have any nice photos 😂

It can move up, as the uterus stretches later on in pregnancy. Apparently it's fairly common for the placenta to cover the cervix pre 20 weeks but it should then move up as you get bigger. Think about something stuck to a balloon.