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Aug 2021 - 2nd Trimester continues

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Alittlexmasmagic · 06/03/2021 12:31

Hi everyone, another thread begins & things are getting real now 😄 x

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Daffodil21 · 01/04/2021 19:57

@ElonaWise this class has just popped up on my Facebook and thought you might be interesting (screenshot attached)

Sorry for triple posting!

Aug 2021 - 2nd Trimester continues
Caz1226 · 01/04/2021 20:19

Hi everyone
I had my 20 weeks scan today and I found out that we are having a baby boy!
So happy 😁 wahoo xx

LyraShaeLilly · 01/04/2021 20:39

@Daffodil21

I think this is normal as my belly became hard before I started to show.

Jessicapebbles · 01/04/2021 20:44

@Daffodil21 Yes mine goes quite hard, she also sticks her bum out and it’s sooo uncomfortable but really cool at the same time 😂 I’ve been sat watching my tummy move tonight 😍
Congratulations @Caz1226!! Lovely news🥰

BertieBotts · 01/04/2021 20:46

Caz congratulations!

Daff yeah it should be quite solid as the uterus wall is muscle, and full of baby/placenta! Usually your tummy will be quite squishy because it's your intestines in there.

What clothes etc you'll use and like is so personal but I can share what I've personally found :) I'll go through your list and add my comments. I have 90% of the clothes I need already from last time so I have actual numbers now!

Daffodil21 · 01/04/2021 20:51

Thanks all, just panicked as if never felt it like that before!

@Jessicapebbles that's lovely! I still haven't felt any movements and I'm 21 weeks today 🙄

Jessicapebbles · 01/04/2021 20:53

@Daffodil21 Is this your first baby? I know some people haven’t felt movement even close to 24 weeks with their first.

I’m having my 2nd and definitely feeling more movement this time but I’ve also been told her legs are measuring 2 weeks ahead so that could also be why! Xx

biscuitcat · 01/04/2021 20:55

Congratulations @Caz1226, how exciting!

Thank you all for the advice about the hen do 🥰 you really echoed my thoughts and worries about if it'll be too soon to be separated from baby, I think I'll just have to play it by ear (and keep fingers crossed the plan can be kept quite simple!). Everyone in real life seems to be saying I'll be fine leaving baby/wanting a break but knowing myself, I'm not sure if that'll be the case that soon.

Daffodil21 · 01/04/2021 20:56

@Jessicapebbles yes it is, I also have an anterior placenta which doesn't help!

Jessicapebbles · 01/04/2021 21:09

@Daffodil21 Yes that probably doesn’t help too bless you! I felt very little movement with my first! Xx

Daffodil21 · 01/04/2021 21:17

@Jessicapebbles It's so annoying as I was really hoping to start feeling movements sooner rather than later. I've booked so many scans in this pregnancy (due to previous MCs) and I was really hoping to feel movement so I could stop booking them!! I've got a midwife app on Tuesday where she'll check for the heartbeat so hopefully that'll keep me going a bit longer!

Jessicapebbles · 01/04/2021 21:20

@Daffodil21 Totally understandable and I would be the same! Thankfully the midwife should be able to reassure you 💖 I’m sure you will have feet and elbows sticking in your ribs in no time at all 😂
I’m struggling with pain in my hips today. I can barely get out of bed!

Daffodil21 · 01/04/2021 21:24

@Jessicapebbles I hope so too!! Oh no! Have you spoken to your midwife about it?

BertieBotts · 01/04/2021 22:08

Clothing (massive dump!)

Sizes - DS2 was absolutely massive as a baby but he wasn't born big, he just grew really fast in the first year. He measured ahead a week or two for the whole pregnancy - you may have had an estimated gestational age come up on scans - if it's slightly before or ahead of where you are, you can guess whether you'll have a big or small baby. I have also been told I'm measuring big again this time so I'm expecting another tall/chunky baby, but because I'm not big I don't seem to birth them big. DS1 was 3040g / 6lb 11oz and DS2 was 3420 which is 7lb 9oz.

But I have this as the ages he wore various clothing:
Size 50 (first size/tiny baby/newborn) - about 2-4 weeks (summer)
Size 56 (newborn/up to 1 month) - birth to 8-10 weeks (Summer > autumn)
0-3 months - about 6 weeks - 4 months (autumn)
3-6 months - about 3 months - 5 months (autumn > winter) (he must have had a growth spurt!)
6-9 months - from 4 months (haven't tracked any further)

50/56 are European sizes, but that's because no UK shops can agree on what to call them. Newborn is used in some shops for one and some shops for the other and some as a kind of catch-all for both. Some split into newborn/up to 1 month. Some split into first size/newborn. 🤷‍♀ If you want to use my delineation check what cm they have it listed as up to!

You can see they overlap a bit. That's because not everything in one size is actually the same size Hmm So you'll have things which are a bit smaller and fit a bit sooner, or bits which are bigger and are too big when you first move up a size. Some people like to shift up a size in one go, I tend to keep a box for too-small clothes and when I notice something is a bit tight or the arms/legs look short I chuck it in there after the next wash. And I have the next size clothes all together in another box and every few weeks I'll get some of the smaller bits out and try them on and if they fit, add them into the clothes rotation. If they're still a bit big back into the box they go. Sometimes you'll also get an item which is so much bigger/smaller than the label size that it fits more closely with the next or previous size so I group it with those. I do actually remember thinking with DS1 that you could get away with skipping sizes if you didn't mind starting when they're a bit baggy and rolling up sleeves :o

Anyway, this is what I have/will top up to this time, from size 56 onwards.

  • short sleeve bodysuits - about 12
  • sleepsuits with full sleeves/legs/feet - about 12 up to 0-3 months, as worn all day. About 8 in 3-12 months.
  • short arm/leg rompers - a couple in size 50/56 - it will be too cold by the time they are in the bigger sizes.
  • cardigans - a couple in age 0-3 months. Not bothering with any smaller as it will be warm.

It's nice to have a few things in size 50 because it's nice to have a couple of things that properly fit them and don't need to be rolled up when they are very first born, I have some stuff already so not getting any more but if I was starting from scratch I'd prob get no more than 5-6 of anything. If you are measuring smaller, or likely to give birth early, or are quite petite and so is baby's dad, then it's maybe worth having a full set of size 50 as well. But I found my 6/7lb babies fit just fine into size 56. I think DS1 had about 2-3 things in size 50, and that was fine. Too many tiny things feels like a waste as they just don't wear them for long at all.

Not bothering to get any of these:

  • long sleeve bodysuits - didn't use these really, except for under dungarees. If you use sleeping bags they can make good autumn pyjamas for under them. But I like sleepsuits too much!
  • socks - didn't use until wearing trousers.
  • mittens - never used. Didn't even use the fold over sleeves on sleepsuits.
  • joggers - as in trousers? Didn't really use until size 3-6 months+ and then with long sleeved tops. I prob have about 3 trouser/top combos in 0-3 month size, but wouldn't buy again. I ended up putting them on for the sake of it not because I wanted to.
  • hats - just one or two is fine. You'll end up with a couple if you get any sets or gifts anyway. I only used one in hospital and I put a different one on him each day because we had some ludicrous number. :o A warm hat is necessary for winter, but wait and see what size head they have! They aren't expensive to buy later and it's much easier to try them on in the shop when you have a real baby.
  • muslin cloths - loads! 20?
  • bibs - I think useful if you bottle feed? Or if your baby dribbles loads. Get them if you need them, or if you like the look of the bandana ones for about 3m+, but I didn't use them before then. And not at all for DS1 until weaning.
  • shoes - you're right, this is madness for a tiny baby. Shoes once they are properly walking outside. Maybe soft leather type ones if you have cold or slippy floors at home once cruising.

Bedding:

I find 2 cot mattress protectors is fine. I think I had 4+ sheets but rarely used them all. If your baby is sick a lot you'll want at least 4-6 so you can keep washing them, but you can get sheets on amazon for any size of cot. I did line the head of the cot with a thicker muslin or a spare flat sheet/tea towel so I'd have a layer to whip off if he did a little posset.

If you're using blankets for sleep, cellular blankets are what is recommended as they help babies to regulate their temperature. Also, natural fabrics are better than man made ones like polyester or plastic fleece as they can cause overheating. Sleeping bags are also great. If it's really hot they don't necessarily need a cover, just sleeping in a vest + sleepsuit or even just a vest is fine. In the UK in August most people are worrying about keeping their baby cool enough rather than warm enough :) Although for the first 48 hours or so, they do need a vest + sleepsuit and possibly hat and antenatal/maternity wards are all roasting hot, because they can't initially regulate their own temperature.

When you say comforters do you mean those little blanket things they can hold? Seems to be baby dependent - mine never really caught on to them. However I really want one of the ludicrously overpriced cuddly toys that clips onto a dummy this time, now that they make them for normal dummies and not the ones that make your baby's mouth look like a weird hole!

Never liked snowsuits/pram suits. I swear by a nice thick cosy toes for the pram (not the car seat please, unless it's a brand specific one and they are ££££) for when it's really cold, and then blankets for in between or for using in the car seat where you shouldn't put anything bulky between the baby and the straps. I find you need a thicker blanket for out and about than at home in bed so I have used fleece ones for that, but I also have some really nice knitted ones from I think Mamas & Papas which are great for the car seat or pram, and you can use the cellular ones here as well if you want to. The fleece ones are often sized for a single bed so they're way too big for a car seat or carrycot and just fall out over the sides or you need to fold them over into a million layers which is then too hot.

With any blanket, bear in mind if you fold it once you've made one layer into two layers. Then if you fold it again your two layers are now 4, etc. Layers seemed to be very important when I had DS1 as the midwife and health visitor and antenatal classes all talked about them a lot - not sure if this is still the case? It was to do with overheating and SIDS.

Babies under 6 months or so shouldn't use sun cream as the chemicals are harmful to absorb through their skin, I think. You should keep them in the shade or in long loose clothing instead, and indoors during the middle of the day. But unless you're due right at the beginning of August, it's not that likely you'll be having loads of sunny days with a newborn anyway as you'll probably be in hospital and then staying at home, it takes a few weeks to really emerge from that "bubble", unless you have a nice sunny garden to sit in anyway. I thought about getting a UV protective tent for them to lie in (beware of counterfeits on amazon) but I never got one and I wouldn't have needed it. Buggy parasols are the most useless accessory ever. Buggy UV shades are quite good, but not really necessary in the UK. Don't cover your buggy with a blanket or muslin for shade, as it will turn into a greenhouse as it prevents the air escaping.

Magik01 · 01/04/2021 22:18

For people asking about what to dress the baby in, I still have this note on my phone from when I was pregnant with my DS. You’ll have to excuse how slap dash it is 😂 I wrote down what weight the tag said as well, as most were the same ‘size’ eg 0-3 months but differed a lot in weights!

Tiny baby
Up to 5lb 8oz. IIII
Up to 7lbs. I
7.5lbs. III

First size
Up to 7lb 8oz. I
Up to 9lb. III

Newborn
Up to 9lb. II
Up to 9lb 9oz. II

0-1 month
Up to 10lb. IIIIIIIII
Up to 9lb 14oz. III

0-3 months
12lbs. IIIII
12lbs 6ozs. II
10-14lbs. I
14lbs. IIIII
14.5lbs. III

The | is like a tally chart by the way! My DS was 5lb 12oz when born and was an Oct baby. I remember he was in up to one month until around 8-10 weeks! So really does depend on your baby. But I’m pretty sure I got use out of all of them. Smile

PurplePansy05 · 02/04/2021 00:08

Oh wow, girls thank you SO much for this! @BertieBotts @Alittlexmasmagic @wimbler @Magik01, this is the kind of knowledge I'd spend hours googling and would never come up with what you've all learnt anyway. What I've noticed is that a lot of shops and a lot of websites advertise/sell baby stuff that really isn't needed. Obviously they need to make money, I get that! But as a FTM I feel a bit vulnerable without the practical knowledge. I actually think they primarily aim these products at the likes of me, a bit naive and probably overprotective and overprepared lol! Anyway, I am not currently in the rare breed of people having surplus ££££ so I'm trying to be sensible and your advice really is priceless 💐

Bertie you should write a book. Seriously. I don't think a blog here and there cuts it, you'd be so good at sharing more of your knowledge with a larger audience! 😊 xx

BertieBotts · 02/04/2021 07:13

Haha thanks! But nobody would buy it as they don't know me from Adam :o

I was going to agree with @wimbler too and say you always see people singing the praises of zipped sleepsuits (especially on American sites for some reason?) but I had a few and I absolutely hate them. Much prefer poppers. Poppers sit nice and flat on the baby, can't pinch their skin which I was always afraid of doing, and it really isn't that hard to line them up once you've got the hang of it. I also like that with poppers you can just undo the bottom half and their top half stays nice and warm whereas with a zip you have to undo the whole thing every time.

HopefulB · 02/04/2021 07:41

Great insight @wimbler @Alittlexmasmagic @BertieBotts @Magik01!

Q re sleeping bags - I don’t get the tog rating at all! I would say our house is probably slightly colder than average, especially the room we’ll be sleeping in. I don’t like a warm bedroom. Do people move thermostats upstairs to see the temp - or is that taking it too literally? I’d guess that in summer our room would max out at 22, min 16, probably cooler going into winter, maybe more like 10-12? We use tog 4.5 duvet in summer through to 13.5 in winter - how does this compare with baby sleeping bags?!

Magik01 · 02/04/2021 07:57

@HopefulB baby sleeping bags tend to just come in 0.5, 1, 1.5 and 2.5 tog. Occasionally you will see a 3.5 tog sleeping bag but not very often! In the window months we used a 2.5 tog when a sleepsuit and vest on, in the summer a lighter one. Never used a 3.5 and wouldn’t recommend getting one as they are for really cold climates.

My DS was swaddled until around 5/6 months I’d say because he just loved it. We then moved to sleeping bags which he was in until he was 2! We have a gro egg which we have used since he was a baby which I think helped with knowing the temp of the room, but you have to be careful where you place it like not next to a radiator!

Magik01 · 02/04/2021 07:57

Winter months even!

BertieBotts · 02/04/2021 08:18

I think the tog ratings have some relevance to layers but can't remember how it works.

Doesn't really relate to adult tog ratings as we are so much bigger we need higher ratings.

Alittlexmasmagic · 02/04/2021 08:29

This is the grobag companies advice x

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Carefree1 · 02/04/2021 09:20

Wow, so much to catch up on. Some really helpful information on essentials and sleeping.

Congratulations @Champson @Caz1226 on your scans, how lovely!

I had my 20 week scan yesterday and all was well with my baby girl. Considering it was April fools yesterday, I’m pleased to report that she’s still a girl 😂. Hoping to relax now and can’t wait for the shops to open to start buying things

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PurplePansy05 · 02/04/2021 09:44

Such a beautiful photo @Carefree1 💖😍 She's gorgeous.

Great advice re sleeping bag togs again, thank you @Alittlexmasmagic! It looks like 1 and 2.5 are most likely the way to go. I suspect they come in different sizes depending on the age of the baby?

I've been looking at discounts on the Bounty app today btw and there are some useful ones if anyone is looking to buy baby stuff this month, some will expire in the end of April (but surely new ones will follow!).

I managed to buy a bundle of clothes off Fb Marketplace yesterday, I compared it against your lists and it ticked off a lot of boxes! I'm very lucky to have found a local mum with a little boy who is 4 months old now so we just agreed a little deal that she'll sell her son's clothes to me regularly (if they fit and are suitable for the time of the year). They're all gorgeous, trusted brands and nearly new, and tbh I'd probably pick 90% of the exact same ones! I'm so pleased, can't wait to pick them up 😊 xx

BertieBotts · 02/04/2021 10:16

It's perfect when you find a mum to clothes-swap with like that! I got loads of amazing stuff from a mum of a boy about a year older until this year but now DS2 seems to have caught hers up Blush

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