Due May05-part2

[northstar]

I live in Ireland, due May 12th. V happy SAHM (36)to ds 2.5yrs. Heard baby's heartbeat today, scan end november.

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I don't know much about the whole vaccine issue and hadn't thought about it yet. Do you have to go private to have them done seperately then? I know my niece and nephew both had the MMR and were fine, although my godson had a bad reaction to his first, he overheated -it was warm day too - and passed out - went totally limp - they got an ambulance and and then he completely recovered, but it was very worrying - that was the same day as his vaccine. They did go on to give him the next one and he was fine. I think I need to read alot more about it before we make a decision - how long have we got before we have to decide?

Didn't get the job but I didn't think I would. It turned out to be not what I'd expected (or wanted) and that probably reflected in my interview answers. Oh well. I'm not intending to look for another job, it was just opportunistic.

Ooh vaccination. My god, northstar, your ds' reaction is terrifying! My ds had a very bad reaction to the MMR and we probably won't give him the pre-school booster. At the time, we decided that it was slightly better to give him the MMR than not. We have no idea what we will do with the new baby. Leaning towards not giving it given ds' reaction.

Just my opinion warning
...as for the 5-in-1, there isn't enough data available to decide whether or not it is safe and the MMR has proved that even when the data is available, it is meaningless on an individual basis. Probably will give the 5-in-1 though.

Ooh, lots of contentious issues. I like that, cos I think that a bunch of pg women are the most balanced and clearthinking people about !

I have faith in the medical profession. I believe that they wouldn't be using the 5 in 1 unless it had been extensively trialled. I had the same attitude to MMR. I guess it comes from being a mathematician, I can see that some people may have reactions, but then I look at the probablity. Mind you, I used to be a historian, so I also know about how the personal example can influence our emotional response and I think that is perfectly valid too! Good old fence sitting - I'm happy to have the vaccine, and I'm happy for other people to have it separately if they want. (what I'm not happy for is for people not to be immunised - that's just unfair!)

On sibling rivalry ... when our little ones are born our big ones will be more important as they are aware of what's going on. But I am a 2nd child (15 months apart) and I have always felt 2nd best. After ds was born we started to think about having a 2nd and I ended up having to have counselling because I was convinced that as soon as I conceived the 2nd one I would learn the "truth" that you just don't love your 2nd as much as your 1st! Luckily I don't feel like that any more, but I know I will have issues when it comes to it, making sure that I do treat them both as the special individuals that they are/will be!

I'm not up to date on the 5 in1 but did go for the MMR with dd after much research and the basic belief that autism isn't life threatening but measles is.
Had a friend up the other day - who I haven't seen for 30 years - we were at primary together. Anyway his brother died from a severe form of measles after I lost touch with him. His whole family fell apart afterwards, parents divorced etc etc. Awful.

That's terrible news on your friends brother/family. But, single jabs are still an alternative.

And, I'm inclined to agree that the 5-in-1 is too new to judge... not sure what I am going to do there. Glad the thermosil is gone, but a bit skeptical about five diseases going into one tiny little leg all at once.

Does anyone know how serious the diseases against which the 5-in1 guards are? (Diptheria, Tetnus, Polio, Whooping Cough / Perussis, Hib)

I think that the 5-in-1 diseases can be fatal hence I would not feel comfortable about not immunising. I think that the tetanus is essential given the amount of mud ds tends to find! But, I am convinced that the MMR gave ds measles. So I guess that we went from a risk of him getting measles naturally to actively giving it to him and I feel incredibly guilty about that. About the autism thing, I do believe that it can be triggered by the MMR but I think that there probably has to be a genetic predisposition already there...it's so difficult. What I really hate is the fact that we are all encouraged to immunise by people who wouldn't give the stuff to their own kids

Oh fisil, I was the eldest in my family and hated it. My mother was far more strict with me and I got the blame for everything so i suppose that it's just down to the family environment. Given that you feel so strongly about it, I'm sure that it won't be an issue! I do feel a bit that we coulnd't possibly improve on our perfect first child though

wow, I'm feeling completely different re the whole "2 children" thing. I love my ds so much and just feel lucky that i am being given the opportunity to have that much love again for another child. Quote from the otters pip and pop from Bear in the Big Blue House.....I LOVE LOVE!

But please bear in mind that i'm at the cosy nesting stage at the moment - this could change

ok just re-read my message I'm sounding way too good to be true motherly at the moment - and thats not me so please go easy on me.

northstar, I am sure that I will have as much love for my 2nd. I was amazed that my love expanded so much when ds was born that it wasn't that I had less time or feelings for dp, but I actually loved him more because I was just overflowing with love. I hope the same will happen with no.2. The emotional problems I had when ds was a baby were connected to my feelings about my own childhood which I now realise were not true, but I always felt inferior to my brother, and felt it was because he was the eldest. I am sure that my love will expand and I will be able to love my entire family. But it is a worry as I have had personal problems about this in the past!

And northstar, how come you get "mellow love everyone" pg symptoms, and I get "out of control in a total state" symptoms. Can I have some of yours?

Hi my name is Gemma and i'm due 3rd may 2005,
this is my first baby, will be a single mum as daddy decided he couldn't handle being a dad!
would love to chat to n e one!

gem1355, sorry no-one was around last night when you joined, we're all early birds round here! You are very welcome, congratulations on your pgcy and dont worry you will get lots of support here and stupid daddy will be the one who loses out!!!!
I was pg alone with my ds and although it can have moments of loneliness and sadness SO CAN LIVING WITH THE FATHER believe me because i have been on both sides of the fence
Fisil i am sending you lots of hey man peace and love vibes - who knows how long they'll last though
I am following Mirage's thread fingers crossed xxxx

Hello Gemma, welcome to the May thread

Hi Gemma,
Welcome to the due May thread and congratulations. Hope you have some other family around to support you? Where are you from?

Hello, i have loads of support from my family and friends and i'm seeing someone new and have loads of support from him to, looking forward to it! smile
I'm 21 and live in portsmouth.

Hi Gem! Ds's godmother lives in Portsmouth - seems to have lots going for babies. Good to have you here.

Cab, thank you so much for mentioning me to mirage. I was pleased that it gave me a link to the thread - I've been so busy the past few days that I just wouldn't have seen it otherwise. Looks like it has a positive outcome.

My bleeding got worse on Tuesday/Wednesday, so I made the next appointment available to see my GP (I could have seen any old GP immediately, but I felt there was no hurry!). So I'm going in on Monday morning. The bleeding is virtually gone now, fingers crossed it will stay away. Meanwhile I just want to hear the heartbeat to reassure myself that everything's fine and to check whether I need any more anti-D (although the reason why you have it is to protect subsequent pgs, and I will not be exchanging bodily fluids with a man again for as long as I live - best form of contraceptive I know).

Inspection was wonderful. It was just what I needed to take my mind off the bleeding, and we got just about the best report possible. Considering it is a very challenging inner city school where days can be nightmares, it is really nice to get some positive for once! The lead inspector said he'd been an HMI for 10 years, and retired in 4 weeks, and this was the best he'd ever seen! Phew - glad that's over. Ds did his best to help by getting an ear infection on Thursday afternoon - so had to pay twice for childcare yesterday and dash out of work for an hour to go to DR and get antibiotics! Sorry to go on - my boys are asleep, need something to entertain me!

Hi fisil, I'm really glad that your inspection went well!

Anyone heard from Brighteyes recently? I hope everything is ok. I had a scare yesterday when I had a really weird hot feeling in my tummy and crampy pains. I am so glad that we bought that doppler because it really reassures me. We can pick up the heartbeat straight away now.

Gem1355, I lived in Pompey for a few years and loved the city. Are you getting a scan soon?

My local surgery has annoyed me again this week. When I phoned up to make my 16 week appt. they tried to fob me off with an 18 week appt. instead claiming that it's policy now! I think not. Cheek. You really have to fight to get the most basic of antenatal care these days which makes me so and

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Contact your GP. Don't bother with NHS Direct, they'll just tell you the same. GP should have and out of hours sevice. Otherwise, contact hospital. In fcat, prob best to just contcat hospital. Good luck

oh shit myermay, just popped in for a second while washing the car and saw your post. You should lie down and put your feet up straight away. Then post on the health topic and get some more specific advice from "the wise ones". Not sure what else to say, but will be here for a while now so please dont go away xxxxx

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Feet up as much as possible, use the remote control and have a nice relaxing day. Talk to you tomorrow xxx

Oh Myermay - the main thing is to try and stay calm. No harm in phoning the hospital to see if they can do anything - or your midwives. I was really surprised to discover mine work on a Sunday so definitely phone someone even if it's just to arrange a scan for tomorrow. Have a read of the most recent 'miscarrying' thread. It's turned out fine but there are stats on there for how many folk bleed during healthy pregnancies - can't remember the exact figures now, but amazingly high.
I'll be thinking of you.

Fisil sorry that you're still going through this too, but congratulations on the inspection. You and everyone else attached to the school must be over the moon!! What subjects do you teach? (Don't worry if you would rather not say.) Best of luck tomorrow too Fisil.

Sorry Myermay posts crossed there. Feet up really is the most sensible advice for today, but tomorrow demand a scan.

thinking of you myermay - take it easy ok?